Auroralampinen Posted Saturday at 09:08 AM Author Posted Saturday at 09:08 AM 16 minutes ago, Lok24 said: There is no c+ System ...... Control+ system🙂 Quote
Lok24 Posted Saturday at 09:51 AM Posted Saturday at 09:51 AM (edited) 43 minutes ago, Auroralampinen said: Control+ system There is no "Control + System", Control+ is just an app. It is used with the Powered Up System. Edited Saturday at 09:52 AM by Lok24 Quote
Auroralampinen Posted Saturday at 10:01 AM Author Posted Saturday at 10:01 AM 10 minutes ago, Lok24 said: There is no "Control + System", Control+ is just an app. It is used with the Powered Up System. Ok thanks for a clarification:). Quote
Bartybum Posted Sunday at 06:03 AM Posted Sunday at 06:03 AM 20 hours ago, Lok24 said: There is no "Control + System", Control+ is just an app. It is used with the Powered Up System. Really splitting hairs here, everyone knows what people mean by C+ Quote
Lok24 Posted Sunday at 09:04 AM Posted Sunday at 09:04 AM 2 hours ago, Bartybum said: Really splitting hairs here, everyone knows what people mean by C+ Obviously not. It is important to name things correctly cause it says something about their properties. Â Â Quote
AVCampos Posted Sunday at 06:34 PM Posted Sunday at 06:34 PM In that case, isn't the name of the system that began with WeDo 2.0 actually LPF2? Quote
Bartybum Posted yesterday at 12:57 AM Posted yesterday at 12:57 AM (edited) 15 hours ago, Lok24 said: Obviously not. It is important to name things correctly cause it says something about their properties. My friend these are plastic toys, it really doesn't matter as much as you think it does. People have been using the terms C+ and PU in this forum pretty interchangeably ever since it first released Edited yesterday at 01:01 AM by Bartybum Quote
kbalage Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 20 hours ago, Lok24 said: Obviously not. It is important to name things correctly cause it says something about their properties. Â Â If LEGO were consistent in their naming, it might make sense to stick to the "correct" definition, but it is all around the place. The hardware components have completely arbitrary names, the "Powered Up" category on lego.com has some but not all of the related sets and parts. I've chosen to use the term Powered Up product family for all hardware that uses the LPF2 connector, but that puts a question mark on the new All-in-One hub for example, as it has no expansion capabilities, it is not compatible with the PU app, etc. Things are rarely black and white in the LEGO world. LEGO only puts the Control+ label on their Technic sets, so people will use that term, that's inevitable. Quote
Lok24 Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago Hi , I refer to this article by Kim Ellekjær Thomsen from August 6, 2018 https://lan.lego.com/news/overview/powered-up-afol-community-answers-r146/#_ Quote: Powered UP is the name of the new LEGO electronic building platform. This new platform has 2 main connectors: The new plug used for wired connections and a wireless RF connection using Bluetooth LE. The wireless connection is both used between physical Powered UP elements and to mobile smart devices. Current products using elements from the Powered UP platform are: WeDo 2.0, Boost, CITY Trains, DUPLO Trains and the App controlled Batmobile. So it is the platform and has nothing to do with sets, technic or similar. 1 hour ago, kbalage said: but that puts a question mark on the new All-in-One hub for example, as it has no expansion capabilities, it is not compatible with the PU app, etc. That's the question: does the LEGO Technic Move Hub use the LEGO Wireless Protocol 3.0.00 ? If so it would be PU, otherwise not. And if so I could use all may software to control it. Same question for Mario, the here discussed new elements or the new LEGO Education Science. That's why i think it is important to name products correctly, cause it gives a hint of the internal properties. 1 hour ago, kbalage said: LEGO only puts the Control+ label on their Technic sets, so people will use that term, that's inevitable. Which is correct, but that's not a "system" It's just an app using LWP 3.0 Quote
kbalage Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago @Lok24 so many things have changed since 2018. You can try to stick to the definition provided by the PU team back then, but those people are long gone and most of their plans and promises have not been fulfilled. I have a nice library of roadmaps and plans that looked great on paper, but never happened. At this point TLG does not even want to sell us most of the "Powered Up" hardware they created in the past years... As for the hub (which by the way is not the Move Hub, this one doesn't even have a name, just a part ID), it uses the same protocol, but there is no software other than Control+ that can control it. So is it part of the product family? Yes, it would be important to name products and technologies properly, but TLG failed to do so in the first place. It makes no sense to impose a naming convention on each other if the company is not willing to dedicate resources to this topic. Anyway, this is very off-topic in the 2026 discussion, I'm happy to continue this elsewhere. Quote
Lok24 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, kbalage said: (which by the way is not the Move Hub, Yes, it's not the "Move Hub 88006", but many articles worldwide use the term "Technic Move Hub", so did I.  1 hour ago, kbalage said: it uses the same protocol, but there is no software other than Control+ that can control it. So is it part of the product family? Of course, if it uses the same protocol it is a PU-Device, and my software which uses the LWP 3.0 should be able to control it.  This is why it is important to define the devices properly, and not mix that with the Lego "Themes"  1 hour ago, kbalage said: Anyway, this is very off-topic in the 2026 discussion, I'm happy to continue this elsewhere. Topic here is 2026 Technic Sets , so the complete mentioning of Smart Play is very off-topic. But agreed. Edited 20 hours ago by Lok24 Quote
Bartybum Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 16 hours ago, Lok24 said: Powered UP is the name of the new LEGO electronic building platform. I'll finish my bit off here by saying that yes, you're technically correct in that it's called PU, but that's not the point. The point is that it doesn't matter whether we refer to it as C+ or PU, because we all understand what people mean when they refer to either. Quote
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