Mandalorianknight Posted August 22 Posted August 22 4 hours ago, MKJoshA said: Star Wars could really use more location sets. Sure, you can army build. But where to you put all those armies? Right now, grey baseplates. Imagine if they had a "cheap" hanger sets where you could park your 5th X-Wing? Or a set of modular Yavin rooms that attach like Harry Potter's castle? You could build out a whole base for your rebel army. There are so many cool/fresh ideas Lego could try to keep the theme lively. But instead all we get are ship repeats and over-priced battle packs. Something that 2024 actually did quite well- @Kaijumeister was talking about the best sets of 2024 and I don't know if it was intentional, but he dropped three location sets in a row. (Tantive Hallway, Mando Bunker, Peridea). And that's not even all of them- I'd count the battle pack, as whatever I think of the figures/faction choices, it might be my favorite battlepack build... ever? I have a love for the rebel combat speeders and imperial dropships, but objectively this one giving you not only accurate terrain to pose your figures on but the clear flight piece was perfect. 3 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: I completely agree. I’ve been advocating for an Imperial Base modular series for years. (Hangar, bunker entrance, armoury, barracks, detention block, command centre….) The MOC wave this is from has been delayed quite a bit (as the stand Mara's on kind of implies) but something like this? (This set would probably be at the $30-38 price point) They run the issue of the location itself not being all that recognizable, as shown here, but if you get the general architecture types across, include things like turbolasers and speeder bikes, and have desirable figures, I think it would work well. It's also a great place to put officers, crewers, and support staff that fit with an army or navy (and actual army-building instead of just a ton of infantry) that people tend to dislike being in standard battle packs. Quote
BrickPrick Posted August 22 Posted August 22 (edited) 23 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: Yeah adjusting for inflation properly helps it's case a bit. I still don't like it as a set much- the price feels low for the volume of stuff, and taking one of an ever-decreasing number of system set slots to use it on a recolor of a 2021 set when we got a UCS version that same season is not a good choice by any means imo- but unlike most of the august sets it's not explicitly overpriced. I like to see this set as a much needed 2002 remake first and a no-brainer 2021 recolor second. In my own biased ways, I'm glad about the play scale set releasing in the same year as the UCS one. Could only have so many blue Mando minifigures that weren't called Jango Fett. Also a sucker for these more obscure inclusions like Lama Su to complete the core collection of the Skywalker Saga. So yeah, personally find it really exciting. The constant concern about the limited amount of available set slots is understandable, but before i think about cutting the Slave 1, i would name like ten other 2025 releases for the chopping block. Edited August 22 by BrickPrick Quote
Llewop Posted August 22 Posted August 22 5 hours ago, MKJoshA said: You clearly don't poke your head into the castle section of the forum Castle location sets are great for MOCers because you can turn your second gatehouse into the dungeon and your third blacksmith into an armory using the same pieces. Star Wars could really use more location sets. Sure, you can army build. But where to you put all those armies? Right now, grey baseplates. Imagine if they had a "cheap" hanger sets where you could park your 5th X-Wing? Or a set of modular Yavin rooms that attach like Harry Potter's castle? You could build out a whole base for your rebel army. There are so many cool/fresh ideas Lego could try to keep the theme lively. But instead all we get are ship repeats and over-priced battle packs. I get and see a lot of the MOCs but for those who don’t and it was more aimed at like as a general themes primarily aimed at kids like Ninjago and City, feel like a castle theme would get boring quickly. But I love the MOCs. BDP is fantastic as well when they choose a castle set for a series. I agree about the SW just location in general feel like it died and got replaced by the dioramas. They could easily extend the Yavin set for example with Andors house and chuck a few characters in there. I thought for a time the corridor set had a lot of potential with the Dark Trooper attack and Tantive boarding. I remember one of my first SW sets being the opening scene from TPM if they remade that now that would fit the corridor sets well I feel. So many scenes that happen on ships or bases that could suit that alone would keep them going, and even marvel could borrow the idea and do a few daredevil corridor sets well:D Moff Gideon set last year was one of my personal favourites from last year perfect example of a basic location set at a reasonable price Quote
MKJoshA Posted August 22 Author Posted August 22 43 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said: Something that 2024 actually did quite well- @Kaijumeister was talking about the best sets of 2024 and I don't know if it was intentional, but he dropped three location sets in a row. (Tantive Hallway, Mando Bunker, Peridea). And that's not even all of them- I'd count the battle pack, as whatever I think of the figures/faction choices, it might be my favorite battlepack build... ever? I have a love for the rebel combat speeders and imperial dropships, but objectively this one giving you not only accurate terrain to pose your figures on but the clear flight piece was perfect. Those are good sets and I own multiples of all of them except Peridea. But they feel more limited than what I image truly good locations sets could be. Maybe it's the muted color pallet, maybe it's the higher price tag, I'm not sure. 2 minutes ago, Llewop said: I thought for a time the corridor set had a lot of potential with the Dark Trooper attack and Tantive boarding. I remember one of my first SW sets being the opening scene from TPM if they remade that now that would fit the corridor sets well I feel. So many scenes that happen on ships or bases that could suit that alone would keep them going, and even marvel could borrow the idea and do a few daredevil corridor sets well:D Corridors are fine, but they are not what I would choose to make the focus of Star Wars location sets. Give me a modular cantina, rebel base, or imperial stronghold over corridors any day. Quote
Llewop Posted August 22 Posted August 22 15 minutes ago, MKJoshA said: Corridors are fine, but they are not what I would choose to make the focus of Star Wars location sets. Give me a modular cantina, rebel base, or imperial stronghold over corridors any day. I agree 100% it’s just when you have slim pickings you grab what you can. Wonder when they revisit ESB if they’ll attempt another Hoth base. Whether it’s a single MBS/UCS style or my preference kind of like what you suggested a Harry Potter style multiple sets that all link up into one. Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted August 22 Posted August 22 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: The MOC wave this is from has been delayed quite a bit (as the stand Mara's on kind of implies) but something like this? (This set would probably be at the $30-38 price point) They run the issue of the location itself not being all that recognizable, as shown here, but if you get the general architecture types across, include things like turbolasers and speeder bikes, and have desirable figures, I think it would work well. It's also a great place to put officers, crewers, and support staff that fit with an army or navy (and actual army-building instead of just a ton of infantry) that people tend to dislike being in standard battle packs. Oh my. Sold. I’d buy 1 on Day 1 and then at least 2 more on sale. And not just because of Mara. The turbolaser turret is very well crafted. You’ve managed a perfect blend of stud shooter play and accuracy to shape. Something to which the closest Lego has been able to manage was the 2015 FO Battlepack. This set feels awfully tailored to me because, whilst my imperial base project already has a main infantry gate, this would be a perfect entrance to the ramparts. In fact it’d work so well that I have to politely ask you to please get the kriff out of my head!!! A thing I’d do though, now that there isn’t a Anniversary for 4 years, is replace Luke with Mara and make the 4th fig a imperial or rebel trooper (Vader’s Fist or normal stormtrooper?) Perhaps make it a full on legends set and make the scout trooper a storm commando and include 2? However, the officer would be a Captain Kaido reference ofc, his intimidating presence on Ghorman makes me want him, and the rank, as a minifig. 2 hours ago, Llewop said: Moff Gideon set last year was one of my personal favourites from last year perfect example of a basic location set at a reasonable price I got it this spring. Absolutely phenomenal. I incorporated it as the main gate of my imperial base and used the floor greebling and corridor shape as the base’s template. Edited August 22 by CloneCommando99 Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted August 23 Posted August 23 (edited) 8 hours ago, BrickPrick said: I like to see this set as a much needed 2002 remake first and a no-brainer 2021 recolor second. In my own biased ways, I'm glad about the play scale set releasing in the same year as the UCS one. Could only have so many blue Mando minifigures that weren't called Jango Fett. Also a sucker for these more obscure inclusions like Lama Su to complete the core collection of the Skywalker Saga. So yeah, personally find it really exciting. The constant concern about the limited amount of available set slots is understandable, but before i think about cutting the Slave 1, i would name like ten other 2025 releases for the chopping block. I honestly just think it should have been a microfighter. It's already just significantly too small to be a playscale slave one in my eyes, so this way Jango still isn't exclusive to the UCS set (he'd be even cheaper!), and they can just put Lama in the UCS Slave One, giving it a nice, more obscure exclusive while keeping the more desirable figure in a cheap set- sort of like Yularen being exclusive to the venator whereas Rex gets to be in a microfighter. The $70 price point could then be used for a different set- maybe for something more suited to a $70 price point than the F1. Many of the 2025 sets are ones I think are poorly done and would better be replaced by others, but the slave one is just particularly redundant to me being both a recolor of a subpar 2021 set and having a UCS version out on shelves at the same time. 6 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Oh my. Sold. I’d buy 1 on Day 1 and then at least 2 more on sale. And not just because of Mara. The turbolaser turret is very well crafted. You’ve managed a perfect blend of stud shooter play and accuracy to shape. Something to which the closest Lego has been able to manage was the 2015 FO Battlepack. This set feels awfully tailored to me because, whilst my imperial base project already has a main infantry gate, this would be a perfect entrance to the ramparts. In fact it’d work so well that I have to politely ask you to please get the kriff out of my head!!! A thing I’d do though, now that there isn’t a Anniversary for 4 years, is replace Luke with Mara and make the 4th fig a imperial or rebel trooper (Vader’s Fist or normal stormtrooper?) Perhaps make it a full on legends set and make the scout trooper a storm commando and include 2? However, the officer would be a Captain Kaido reference ofc, his intimidating presence on Ghorman makes me want him, and the rank, as a minifig. Thank you! I can PM you the part file if you want. It's just gonna be an anniversary wave two- I have too many of these ready and both like my choices for the anniversary figs and don't want to go back and change them- but if it was a normal set, I agree, the figure setup would likely be very different. (Although this is essentially a legends set- Mara and the fact that it's not representing any specific OT imperial base aside, Luke is wearing his Heir to the Empire tank top.) Edited August 23 by Mandalorianknight Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted August 23 Posted August 23 (edited) Maybe Tie Avenger is the real punk rock? (Day #121) Edited August 23 by CloneCommando99 Quote
betaplayer Posted August 23 Posted August 23 12 hours ago, Tariq j said: It’s the approach I wish they’d taken for the Death Star. This, 100%. I could see them making 5 or so smaller sets, like the hangar, Luke vs Vader, trash compactor, the prison block and maybe a battle pack featuring a gun and a couple of stormies/gunners. You could make those so they combine in a grey circle, without costing too many additional pieces. It would be smaller for sure, but it would be accessible for kids and more adults, who both will feel inclined to complete the collection after getting one of those sets. Same goes for Hoth, however it's not like they spend the better half of a movie there, like they did on the death stars, so the appeal might be less big. Still... Most of us don't have a ion Cannon, GR75 or power generator, so plenty of potential there, especially with the new snow speeder canopy... Quote
BrickPrick Posted August 23 Posted August 23 16 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: I honestly just think it should have been a microfighter. It's already just significantly too small to be a playscale slave one in my eyes, so this way Jango still isn't exclusive to the UCS set (he'd be even cheaper!), and they can just put Lama in the UCS Slave One, giving it a nice, more obscure exclusive while keeping the more desirable figure in a cheap set- sort of like Yularen being exclusive to the venator whereas Rex gets to be in a microfighter. The $70 price point could then be used for a different set- maybe for something more suited to a $70 price point than the F1. Many of the 2025 sets are ones I think are poorly done and would better be replaced by others, but the slave one is just particularly redundant to me being both a recolor of a subpar 2021 set and having a UCS version out on shelves at the same time. Interesting thought. Addmittably, a Slave 1 Microfighter replacing Plo Koon's Jedi Starfighter, as great as it is, would have been a wise choice. The latter could have paired perfectly as a play scale set with the ARC-170 instead. Although three years in the making, you can make the same argument with the Slave 1 complimenting Obi-Wan's Delta 7, just not as fitting due to different scales. But yeah, a Microfighter would have still quenched my thirst for a Jango Fett minifigure, while also making space for something a bit more meaningful. Even though, as things stand, it still is a very relevant release to me. And i stand by my point... If you were to cut down the overblown 18+ and buildable slop by at least half, i doubt anyone would even care enough to question the existence of this Slave 1. Most of the discussions would probably just revolve around the form factor. Quote
Llewop Posted August 23 Posted August 23 The GWP TIE for the Death Star sounds underwhelming imo. Not something that would make me think I need to buy this day 1. Interesting to see how it fits in with the Death Star. Quote
Lordhelmet Posted August 23 Posted August 23 39 minutes ago, Llewop said: The GWP TIE for the Death Star sounds underwhelming imo. Not something that would make me think I need to buy this day 1. Interesting to see how it fits in with the Death Star. Have they listed the minifigures for this yet? I think the build will be ok but the minifigures are what will make or break it. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted August 23 Posted August 23 1 minute ago, Lordhelmet said: Have they listed the minifigures for this yet? I think the build will be ok but the minifigures are what will make or break it. Two Stormies and a TIE Pilot. I mean, what else were we expecting? There's only so much you can do with a regular OT TIE Fighter Quote
Flieger Posted August 23 Posted August 23 56 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Two Stormies and a TIE Pilot. I mean, what else were we expecting? There's only so much you can do with a regular OT TIE Fighter Officers, ground crew, navy troopers, multiple pilots (Imperial pilots have individual helmet markings, also some elite pilots with coloured stripes). But, with the V-19 in mind, it could be any character from the OT. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted August 23 Posted August 23 4 minutes ago, Flieger said: But, with the V-19 in mind, it could be any character from the OT. The selection I mentioned in my previous post wasn't a suggestion, that's the actual rumour Quote
BrickPrick Posted August 24 Posted August 24 (edited) You may now place your bets whether the TIE Pilot will be the already existing UCS version or the dumped down play scale one. As much as i would go with the latter, especially considering the highly questionable quality standard of the $1000 Death Star minifigures, given Lego's tendency to give away superior figs in GWP's, the former wouldn't surprise me at all. Edited August 24 by BrickPrick Quote
Lordhelmet Posted August 24 Posted August 24 2 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Two Stormies and a TIE Pilot. I mean, what else were we expecting? There's only so much you can do with a regular OT TIE Fighter Awesome, that means it’s an easy pass on day one and I can wait for a discount. Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted August 24 Posted August 24 5 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Two Stormies and a TIE Pilot. I mean, what else were we expecting? There's only so much you can do with a regular OT TIE Fighter Well that’s extremely underwhelming. Not even a Glup Shitto officer with entice-able new printing? Day #122 of Tie Avenger pleading Quote
Lordhelmet Posted August 24 Posted August 24 8 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Well that’s extremely underwhelming. Not even a Glup Shitto officer with entice-able new printing? Day #122 of Tie Avenger pleading I’m just happy there won’t be someone locked behind a crazy pay wall (more than what’s in the set). Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted August 24 Posted August 24 (edited) The more I think about it, if this is locked behind a $1000 death star, I think it's actually a really good choice. It's a nice bonus for those who want to buy it day one- you get another midi-ship for your hanger and some troops to fill out the diorama scenes- but it's nothing crucial to the set, something you could recreate with existing bricks if you really wanted to. For a GWP locked behind a THOUSAND DOLLAR pay wall, I think it's the best case scenario. I'd go so far as to say I think ALL UCS-locked GWPs should be like this- DLC to the set that's not got some important exclusive, but is a nice add-on reward for a day 1 purchase. I wouldn't say all GWPs should be like this- the ones that have you "only" paying $160 on the theme as a whole don't necessarily need to be tied to the May UCS, for instance- but if you can only get the GWP by spending hundreds on a specific set, I like the idea that it's A: DLC for that specific set and B: something you could recreate if you like it but don't want to shell out hundreds of dollars. Edited August 24 by Mandalorianknight Quote
Flieger Posted August 24 Posted August 24 20 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: The selection I mentioned in my previous post wasn't a suggestion, that's the actual rumour Thanks for the heads-up! I was thinking about what one could expect in a TIE-Fighter set but indeed, if that is what they are going for... ok. 16 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Well that’s extremely underwhelming. Not even a Glup Shitto officer with entice-able new printing? I am rather happy about that. As a fan of officer figures with different rank insignia, bricklinking DS figures will be easier than bricklinking the DS GWP figures. Colonel Yularen e.g. commands higher prices than Admiral Yularen, despite the Colonel having the wrong pants (and the new Colonel figure will feature the same mistake...). In fact, the figures I am most looking forward to are Motti and Tagge. If they are screen accurate (or easy to fix), I will get them to make a Conference Room Diorama. The rank insignia should be easy enough, but the code cylinders? PS: Motti's code cylinders e.g. ... now that is Glup Shitto material. But then, when would you want to focus on such details, if not in the most expensive LEGO set ever? ...Made by the most expensive brick toy company? ... proclaiming the hightest standards ever? Quote
CallumPears Posted August 25 Posted August 25 (edited) 14 hours ago, Flieger said: I am rather happy about that. As a fan of officer figures with different rank insignia, bricklinking DS figures will be easier than bricklinking the DS GWP figures. Colonel Yularen e.g. commands higher prices than Admiral Yularen, despite the Colonel having the wrong pants (and the new Colonel figure will feature the same mistake...). In fact, the figures I am most looking forward to are Motti and Tagge. If they are screen accurate (or easy to fix), I will get them to make a Conference Room Diorama. The rank insignia should be easy enough, but the code cylinders? PS: Motti's code cylinders e.g. ... now that is Glup Shitto material. But then, when would you want to focus on such details, if not in the most expensive LEGO set ever? ...Made by the most expensive brick toy company? ... proclaiming the hightest standards ever? Yeah me too. The main thing I wanted out of the Death Star was as many of the "conference room" officers as possible. 4 of them (Tagge, Motti, Yularen, Tarkin) isn't bad but I was hoping we'd also get Bast or Cass since they have notable speaking roles in ANH, especially Bast. Or Romodi since they're including some Rogue One figures. I'd be very annoyed if one was locked behind the most exclusive GWP to date. Already got the old Yularen but I didn't get the 2016 Death Star so need a modern Tarkin. Assuming I don't get the new DS, which I'm not currently planning on but if it gets a discount like the AT-AT did in its final couple of weeks then that might tempt me, I'm currently looking at Bricklinking Tagge, Motti, Sim Aloo, and possibly Tarkin but we'll see whether this version or the 2016 one is cheaper. Also interested in the dark-skinned chinstrap head on one of the Navy Troopers, but hopefully that'll get reused elsewhere (on this subject, I'm very disappointed that the female Crewmember looks to have a regular face and not one with the headset; part of what I love about getting more diverse minifigures is getting new heads with the appropriate printed details such as the chinstrap I mentioned). But if any of the officers have their ranks/cylinders wrong then I'll pass. I'm still tempted to get the Thrawn figure (assuming the Peridea set is ever on sale near me; I haven't even seen it on a store shelf a single time since it released, nevermind at the necessary discount for me to get it) since his number of code cylinders wasn't super consistent in Legends anyway. If I was specifically a fan of Rebels and Ahsoka Thrawn then I'd be much more annoyed. Edited August 25 by CallumPears Quote
BrickPrick Posted August 25 Posted August 25 6 hours ago, Sucram said: A Yavin base would be a great MBS set for 2027 Yes, that would be a great choice from Lego... also a very convenient thing for them to do. As they already have like half of the minifigure line-up figured out from the 2023 play scale set. Just need to add a few named characters like Mon Mothma, some more rebel pilots, Glup Shitto's like the honor guards and they are good to go. Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted August 25 Posted August 25 Day #123, 4, 5, 6 7 8 9 It's the ten Tie Avenger commandments It's the Tie Avenger commandments Number one! The challenge: demand satisfaction If Lego release the set, no need for further action Number two! If they don't, grab a new mould, that's your second Your Pilot helmet, when there's reckoning to be reckoned Number three! Have your seconds meet face to face Negotiate a price Or negotiate a release date This is commonplace, specially 'tween builders Most disputes die and no one shoots Number four! If they don't reach a peace, that's alright Time to get some bricks and a designer on site You pay him in advance, you treat him with civility You have him turn around, so he can have deniability Five! Build before the sun is in the sky Pick a place to Tie where it's high and dry Number six! Leave a note for your next of wave Tell 'em where you been Pray that Tie Avenger or Fondor gets in Seven! Confess your sins Ready for the moment of adrenaline When you finally face your opponent Number eight! Your last chance to negotiate Send in your seconds See if they can set the record straight Tie Avenger Play-scale Venator, sir Can we agree that lobbying for sets is dumb and immature? Sure But your man has to answer for his dominance, Venator With his wave? We both know that's absurd, sir Hang on, how many other eras were neglected because clone bros were greedy and ruinous? Okay, so we're doing this Number nine! Look him in the eye, aim no higher price Summon all the courage you require Then count One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine Number (Ten pieces!) Buy! a little something for the Hamilton fans on the forum. I admit some of the alterations are a bit shoddy. 5 minutes ago, BrickPrick said: Just need to add a few named characters like Mon Mothma, some more rebel pilots, Glup Shitto's like the honor guards and they are good to go. How dare you forget about: Vel, Draven, Cassian, Bix, Wilmon, the Ghost Crew, Kleia, Melshi, Jyn, Baze, Chirrut, Bodhi, K2S0, Raddus, the 2 POS senators, and the Maya Pei Brigade’s skeletons!!! Quote
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