LEGO Star Wars Set Discussion 2025 - READ FIRST POST!!!

[BrickBob Studpants]

52 minutes ago, AD_Bricks said:

They wouldn't do that, would they?

They‘ve done stranger things before. Literally! 

Not sure what else they could‘ve done for this set that would result in the leakers’ enthousiastic reactions, but your mileage might vary. I guess there are people out there would be as excited about, say, a TIE Advanced remake with Vader and Tarkin as most of us are about a potential TIE Avenger

[Kit Figsto]

16 hours ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

You can not compare PAB and set costs 1:1. Don't forget the people that are picking and counting every single part in the warehouse when you make an PAB order. These manpower costs must be a big factor when it comes to PAB prices.

I agree, but wouldn't that support the point that he was making?  If we're assuming that there's a markup on PAB parts (which there definitely is) to account for the fact that everything is hand-picked and inventoried, the parts themselves would, in theory, cost under $100, meaning that LEGO's charging essentially a $50-60 premium for: licensing fees, design costs, 5 minifigures, and 3 battle droids, which is absurd.

 

My own observations, after having been to two Targets and a Walmart in the past couple of days is that we're screwed when it comes to any hope of them changing prices.  I saw plenty of Microfighters and Night Trooper BPs, a handful of the Snowspeeder and V-19, probably 40+ of Jango's ship, but a total of one MTT, no CTT, and only a couple of 327th BPs between all of the stores.  So much for "these prices are too much so I'm not going to buy!" that I saw seeing all over Reddit and Instagram. 

Another interesting thing, at one of the Targets, they had an endcap with a bunch of sets that were $9.99 or less.  There were probably 5-6 City, Creator and Friends sets each, a couple of Ninjago, a Minecraft set, an Animal Crossing set, a Technic set, and I think a couple of Marvel and Dreamzz sets.  Nothing from SW (or DC, for that matter,  but that's a whole separate thing ), though in the aisle itself, the Luke mech was marked down to like $9.49 or something.

Anyway, I think that's another big problem with the theme right now, there is truly nothing affordable/"allowance money" priced other than a microscale Falcon polybag (which looks really good, but doesn't have the same play value that a full set with minifigures has) or a mech, which, again, has playability, but not the same way that some of the small City or Ninjago stuff does, where you're getting a vehicle and 2+ minifigures.  The term "conflict in a box" gets thrown around, but the fact is, with SW, your cheapest possible set in that instance is like $25-30, whereas you can get it in City, Ninjago, or Marvel for $10-15.

[Mandalorianknight]

3 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

They‘ve done stranger things before. Literally! 

Not sure what else they could‘ve done for this set that would result in the leakers’ enthousiastic reactions, but your mileage might vary. I guess there are people out there would be as excited about, say, a TIE Advanced remake with Vader and Tarkin as most of us are about a potential TIE Avenger

I mean yeah I'd be plenty excited for this and I think a lot of people would. It's a pretty iconic vehicle, it'll have been a decade since the last one when this releases, and for Tarkin specifically it'd be the first time he was in a non UCS set since... well, the last TIE advanced a decade ago.

It's important to remember that a pretty big chunk of fans haven't been seriously collecting for over a decade, and even with those who have, it's not like we can buy everything that releases. There's nothing inherently unexciting about a remake for most people, unless you already own the previous iteration of the set and aren't looking for an upgrade, and I doubt most people have the money and space to own the hundreds of lego star wars sets released over the past decade.

1 hour ago, Kit Figsto said:

My own observations, after having been to two Targets and a Walmart in the past couple of days is that we're screwed when it comes to any hope of them changing prices.  I saw plenty of Microfighters and Night Trooper BPs, a handful of the Snowspeeder and V-19, probably 40+ of Jango's ship, but a total of one MTT, no CTT, and only a couple of 327th BPs between all of the stores.  So much for "these prices are too much so I'm not going to buy!" that I saw seeing all over Reddit and Instagram. 

Yup- there are two major reasons for this

1. I guarantee you a number of the people saying that either didn't have the willpower to follow through or never intended on it in the first place and just said so for internet points (and that a number of these youtubers telling people not to buy it are going to somehow have 327th and galactic marine armies by christmas)

2. With the 327th BP especially, plenty of kids are still getting it. Most parents aren't calculating price per piece/price per gram (because, c'mon, that's ridiculous to expect some random joe to know to do), they're looking at the box lego strategically oversized and going "yeah, sure, it looks like it's got plenty of guys", if they're even doing that. As for why the kids themselves want it, the average 8 year old watching a video on how cool and awesome a new set's clone troopers are isn't going to be overly affected by "but don't get it because it's expensive", especially when they're not the one footing the bill. Even for the kids who can grasp the idea that they're getting fleeced on the set, kids aren't exactly known for extreme patience.

I think it'll be a more extreme example of frontloading than we've been seeing with even the previous clone sets- now that the people who could stomach the cost, the kids, and the ones with low impulse control insta-bought it, demand should slow. I still fully expect to see both the flagship sets for under $100 within a year. But if it hasn't slowed lego's roll yet, I wonder just how much those first-week sales account for that they can eat the costs of the set shelfwarming for 2/3rds it's life cycle.

Edited yesterday at 03:11 AM by Mandalorianknight

[Kit Figsto]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I think it'll be a more extreme example of frontloading than we've been seeing with even the previous clone sets- now that the people who could stomach the cost, the kids, and the ones with low impulse control insta-bought it, demand should slow. I still fully expect to see both the flagship sets for under $100 within a year. But if it hasn't slowed lego's roll yet, I wonder just how much those first-week sales account for that they can eat the costs of the set shelfwarming for 2/3rds it's life cycle.

I'll be curious to see for sure.  The AT-TE and Republic Gunship were both $140 and seemed to hover right around that $115 mark after about 8-10 months of being on shelves (I think that on a good sale week, they were like $100?).  If these sets, which had a higher MSRP, end up cheaper than those were, I think it's reasonable to infer that sales have been poor.

[AD_Bricks]

2 hours ago, Kit Figsto said:

I'll be curious to see for sure.  The AT-TE and Republic Gunship were both $140 and seemed to hover right around that $115 mark after about 8-10 months of being on shelves (I think that on a good sale week, they were like $100?).  If these sets, which had a higher MSRP, end up cheaper than those were, I think it's reasonable to infer that sales have been poor.

Let's all make sure to keep track of this, I think it would definitely be worth knowing how these sets are doing over their lifetime (more so than others) 

 

Also, an interesting case study for value and Australian price conversion weirdness:

            2024 Star Destroyer: RRP US$160 (~AU$245 converted) -- Aus RRP AU$300 -- Available at retailers for AU$260 -- 1555 pieces

2025 Republic Juggernaut: RRP US$160 (~$AU$245 converted) -- Aus RRP AU$250 -- Available at retailers for AU$210 -- 813 pieces

           2025 Temple Bounty: RRP US$200 (~AU$306 converted) -- Aus RRP AU$300 -- Available at retailers for AU$200 -- 2387 pieces

In conclusion, I am going to cry because what

Edited yesterday at 07:32 AM by AD_Bricks

[CallumPears]

14 hours ago, Llewop said:

I did wonder how they would pull off the laser not going to lie. And the lift as well seemed very random feature. When I saw it no one on Reddit had called it out as fake at the time maybe we are all a little too eager for news 

It is indeed fake- the guy who posted it is active in the legocirclejerk sub and just admitted he made it up as a joke

[BrickBob Studpants]

8 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I mean yeah I'd be plenty excited for this and I think a lot of people would. 

Exactly. I would find it extremely misleading if a leaker was this excited about a mere remake, but I do realise that fans, including leakers, want different things out this theme  

In this particular case tho, I think the leakers completely misread the room if it ends up not being a TIE Avenger. Unless it‘s just us here on EB that really want a TIE Avenger, but I can‘t imagine that being the case.

[CloneCommando99]

“I wake up every day to an equation I wrote 15 weeks ago from which there's only one conclusion, I'm damned for what I do. My anger, my ego, my unwillingness to yield, my eagerness to fight, they've set me on a path from which there is no escape.”

(Day #105)

 

I was offline for 24 hours and you guys started yapping about Tie Avengers?! I’m so proud.

On 8/6/2025 at 10:52 AM, Kaijumeister said:

(Obviously) agree about the Avenger by the way. Cassian, a Range Trooper, and a Stormtrooper would be the perfect minifigure lineup. The Sienar Test Pilot outfit looks so cool. 

Add Krennic as well for good measure. (He may not be in the scene, but he’s in the episode and is a major SW villain anyway)

18 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

The question is only if that‘s actually the upcoming $70 set. The timing, price, and hints about it being an awesome set definitely fit the bill, but it‘s too soon to get our hopes up just yet

It better be. 

17 hours ago, AD_Bricks said:

It's much too late to avoid that, I'm already struggling to envision a timeline in which the $70 set is anything other than a TIE Avenger. My hopes are WAY up.

 

17 hours ago, AD_Bricks said:

It would be very rude of The LEGO Group® to do anything other than reveal a TIE Avenger as the upcoming $70 set for January 2026. They wouldn't do that, would they?

Agreed. It’d simply be barbaric.

16 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

They‘ve done stranger things before. Literally! 

Not sure what else they could‘ve done for this set that would result in the leakers’ enthousiastic reactions, but your mileage might vary. I guess there are people out there would be as excited about, say, a TIE Advanced remake with Vader and Tarkin as most of us are about a potential TIE Avenger

Endor Bunker as well I guess.

4 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Exactly. I would find it extremely misleading if a leaker was this excited about a mere remake, but I do realise that fans, including leakers, want different things out this theme  

In this particular case tho, I think the leakers completely misread the room if it ends up not being a TIE Avenger. Unless it‘s just us here on EB that really want a TIE Avenger, but I can‘t imagine that being the case.

Cough. Cough. *MaxBaut saying all SW fans would eat good this summer* cough cough

 

Yeah. I’ve seen a lot of requests for a Tie Avenger both on the Andor and LSW subreddits. So there’s definitely demand. 

Granted, half of them were from my alt accounts, but still. /j

Plus, due to the fact that Andor evidently managed to revitalise SW hype (as seen with the BF2 resurgence which happened immediately after) Lego would be fools not to capitalise on it.

 

[BrickBob Studpants]

19 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Cough. Cough. *MaxBaut saying all SW fans would eat good this summer* cough cough

I still maintain he wasn‘t wrong  Nearly all the minifigs and playsets this summer (and even some parts) were high on many people‘s wishlists, and for a long time to boot! Yeah, the lack of variety within the playsets is lamentable, but that doesn’t contradict what he said, in my opinion ^^

[CaptainMarvel]

17 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

They‘ve done stranger things before. Literally! 

Not sure what else they could‘ve done for this set that would result in the leakers’ enthousiastic reactions, but your mileage might vary. I guess there are people out there would be as excited about, say, a TIE Advanced remake with Vader and Tarkin as most of us are about a potential TIE Avenger

I'm dying for a TIE Advanced with a Tarkin figure. I have the regular Tie Fighter, Bomber and Interceptor and the ONLY other TIE vehicle we're missing recently is the Tie Advanced *slinks away into the trees cackling*

[BrickBob Studpants]

7 minutes ago, CaptainMarvel said:

[blasphemic remarks]

It‘s treason, then.

[Mandalorianknight]

13 hours ago, Kit Figsto said:

I'll be curious to see for sure.  The AT-TE and Republic Gunship were both $140 and seemed to hover right around that $115 mark after about 8-10 months of being on shelves (I think that on a good sale week, they were like $100?).  If these sets, which had a higher MSRP, end up cheaper than those were, I think it's reasonable to infer that sales have been poor.

Agreed. And I think it'll happen, too- the AT-TE in particular had such massive demand issues it was delayed in the US and impossible to find for like two months, and yet it still ended up at $100 within less than a year. No way the turbo tank- featuring a much more obscure legion,  250 fewer parts, featuring a structural flaw, and being a less iconic vehicle- is going to sell better.

I think I got the AT-TE for a little under $100 in early 2024, but that's about standard for a set that size 1.5 years after release.

2 hours ago, CaptainMarvel said:

I'm dying for a TIE Advanced with a Tarkin figure. I have the regular Tie Fighter, Bomber and Interceptor and the ONLY other TIE vehicle we're missing recently is the Tie Advanced *slinks away into the trees cackling*

Same. I made my own bomber and interceptor back before lego released them in 2023, but I never got around to buying the parts for my Advanced, and I'm hoping I won't have to because we'll have an official one on shelves.

7 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Exactly. I would find it extremely misleading if a leaker was this excited about a mere remake, but I do realise that fans, including leakers, want different things out this theme  

In this particular case tho, I think the leakers completely misread the room if it ends up not being a TIE Avenger. Unless it‘s just us here on EB that really want a TIE Avenger, but I can‘t imagine that being the case.

*Mark Hamill voice* "There's nothing Mere about that Mortal Remake!"

But you yourself say that you think the summer 2025 wave really was "eating good" when it itself is comprised mostly of remakes (AT-RT/DSD, Turbo Tank, MTT, V-19, Jango's Slave One). Unless you think they were referring to the buildables and the firespeeder, they were talking about the remakes. Sure, some of them have a different coat of paint, but many of them don't even have that. Would it be that much of a stretch that a leaker could be similarly excited about a new TIE advanced, especially when the previous year was fully devoid of OT system retail sets?

Edited 22 hours ago by Mandalorianknight

[icm]

I got my two 75413 CTTs (eBay, ~$65 each, no figures) yesterday afternoon and built them last night. Hopefully I'll have time to make them into the Classic Space moonbus and flatbed cargo rover pretty soon. For $65 each, they're not bad builds, but they certainly don't look or feel "large" the way a CTT should. The wheels don't roll well on a smooth tabletop, and the turning function doesn't work well on the tabletop either. I'm sure they would be much better on a floor with low carpet, just enough for some traction. The wheels were the most repetitive Lego building experience I've ever had. I have a pretty high tolerance for repeated or mirrored subassemblies (I like bilateral symmetry in builds, it makes it much easier to build wings etc in parallel), but each wheel has a subassembly repeated twice, so I had to build that particular subassembly 40 times for 20 wheels for 2 tanks with 10 wheels each.

That PaB experiment is interesting. Because PaB is less automated than the production of retail sets, the price-per-part of a build through PaB will always be higher than the price-per-part of a retail set. Except here? I'm not too surprised to hear that a build of ~800 pieces comes out to ~$110 on PaB instead of ~$80, but that's a real sad comment on how blatantly Lego is price-gouging with this set by retailing it at $160.

The problem with hoping for big discounts on big sets in the US is it's always hit-or-miss. You have to be going to Walmart or Target all the time to see those discounts and grab them. I rarely go into the store, so I have to rely on online discounts and those are rarely above 20%, and big sets rarely even get 20% discounts online.

I finished piecing together the 2016 Rebels version of the TIE Advanced (not the TIE Advanced Prototype) a few months ago. It's still a good build that holds up very well today, but the proportions are a little different than the ANH version, and new parts could improve some of the details and shaping. I would be pretty excited about a new TIE Advanced next year.

[Lordhelmet]

Watch the Tie advanced be the Death Star gwp.  My real hopes for a tie advanced are the 50th anniversary in 2027.  I would like the tie avenger first in 2026 though.

[BrickBob Studpants]

4 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

But you yourself say that you think the summer 2025 wave really was "eating good" when it itself is comprised mostly of remakes (AT-RT/DSD, Turbo Tank, MTT, V-19, Jango's Slave One).

We‘ve never had a blue MTT before, there ever only was one Jango‘s Slave One playset, and the previous V-19 was released 17 years ago. Besides, there were a ton of requested minifigs in that wave, and not just Clones!

A new TIE Advanced on the other hand has been done many times and has very little potential for new minifigs. Praising a new Advanced while being fully aware that so many people are anticipating a TIE Avenger instead would just be cruel on the leakers‘ part

[Sucram]

Would definitely not say no to a new TIE Advanced since it is factually the best TIE variant. The 2016 one still looks great though so I have a feeling a new one will be worse.

[Mandalorianknight]

6 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

We‘ve never had a blue MTT before, there ever only was one Jango‘s Slave One playset, and the previous V-19 was released 17 years ago. Besides, there were a ton of requested minifigs in that wave, and not just Clones!

A new TIE Advanced on the other hand has been done many times and has very little potential for new minifigs. Praising a new Advanced while being fully aware that so many people are anticipating a TIE Avenger instead would just be cruel on the leakers‘ part

Ok, so the issue isn't that the leakers are hyping remakes, just that you personally wouldn't like THIS remake.

I don't think there'd be anything wrong with hyping up a major vehicle we won't have seen for a literal decade. 

4 hours ago, Sucram said:

Would definitely not say no to a new TIE Advanced since it is factually the best TIE variant. The 2016 one still looks great though so I have a feeling a new one will be worse.

What's funny is the advanced probably is canonically the best, right? It's that or the Defender. (Or the Avenger, but we don't really get any dogfighting feats for it so it's hard to gauge whether it was meant as a defender-style starfighter or more of an anti-ground/personnel the way Cassian uses it. Though I guess by that logic we also have to take the Advanced's feats with a grain of salt since it's one of the most skilled pilots in the galaxy using it)

I do think there are a few major design changes we've had for TIES that I'd like to see here. While lego didn't carry it on to the bomber or interceptor, all standard TIEs since 2018 have used a different method for the grey panel siding, one I personally vastly prefer to the "grey plate between two black plates" method the 2016 model uses. The 2016 model also uses a lot of larger sloped bricks for the cockpit area, which we've long since swapped out for more accurate curves.

 

[BrickBob Studpants]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Ok, so the issue isn't that the leakers are hyping remakes, just that you personally wouldn't like THIS remake.

As I said, there is a difference between hyping up a long-requested variant or sets that haven‘t been remade in 20 years, all with new minifigs, and hyping up a remake of a set we had multiple times before, likely without any new minifigs, and at a time where most people would interpret they hype to mean something very specific

[CloneCommando99]

Day #106 of Tie Avenger summoning

[Lordhelmet]

7 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I do think there are a few major design changes we've had for TIES that I'd like to see here. While lego didn't carry it on to the bomber or interceptor, all standard TIEs since 2018 have used a different method for the grey panel siding, one I personally vastly prefer to the "grey plate between two black plates" method the 2016 model uses. The 2016 model also uses a lot of larger sloped bricks for the cockpit area, which we've long since swapped out for more accurate curves.

I think one of my hesitations on wanting another standard tie is that the downsizing has negatively impacted the tie fighters as much or more than some other downsizing.  The x wing downsize made the x wing closer to minifigure scale, the old tie fighters were closer to minifigure scale so the new downsized ones just look weird next to the x wings.  So we have had two lackluster tie fighters out that were both downsized when what i think would be good is one sized like 2016 with the updated cockpit area.  I think we need a break from standard tie fighters but a full size one might be a good candidate for the 50th anniversary wave (providing we don’t get a tie advanced by then).  (And tie avenger which would be nice to get a new version completely).  

[ForgedInLego]

Well I bought the turbo tank so I could make a funny youtube video making fun of the structural issues and modding it to be structurally sound and compatible with my dropship, but honestly? this thing just sucks. The build was meh at best and I can't think of a single thing that is even on par with the 2010 version which I have next to it. 

 

There is only one reason to even consider buying this and that is as a $160 battle pack

 

Anyway, it came with an extra sticker sheet so that's cool I guess

[Renny The Spaceman]

I just saw the Jang video on that Clone tank set, genuinely how does this theme get away with it? One of the best selling themes and it's both price gouged and puts out blatantly unfinished sets. Honestly set aside all the people who complain about minifigures or what slightly different type of trooper is overused or slightly off, this theme is actually embarrassing for a company that markets itself as a premium product 

Edited 13 minutes ago by Renny The Spaceman