LEGO Star Wars 2025 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[BrickBob Studpants]

Yeah, screentime is an absurd metric to use for minifig selections. I think the best example for that is Boba Fett. He has very little screentime and barely does anything in the OT, and yet has dozens of minifigs

And Lando should indeed be available in more sets, especially his CC outfit. Kinda weird to always paywall that behind large sets. They could easily release a new Cloud Car set and include him there!

[Llewop]

2 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Yeah, screentime is an absurd metric to use for minifig selections. I think the best example for that is Boba Fett. He has very little screentime and barely does anything in the OT, and yet has dozens of minifigs

And Lando should indeed be available in more sets, especially his CC outfit. Kinda weird to always paywall that behind large sets. They could easily release a new Cloud Car set and include him there!

I don’t get the hype for Boba barely does anything in two films get cucked in his own series but screen time isn’t a good metric, neither is what random person from eurobricks says either. Characters can leave an impact and only have seconds of screen time or they could have an entire film/trilogy do nothing of note. At some point the die hard OT fans will have to let go of the fact that it’s ever becoming a smaller part of the franchise. Do kids of today like the OT? It’s impossible to know as there aren’t any kids here we are all adults so have different opinions. That’s not me saying they shouldn’t make sets on OT but for balance it will get less coverage same as the PT and CW. 

I’ve hit my mid 30s now and all I crave is castle and pirate sets now I find my focus more drawn to them than to SW. 

[lego the hutt]

3 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

 

This is like saying it’d be fine for only old man or stormtrooper disguise Luke to be on shelves instead of his more iconic Pilot, Jedi or farmboy appearances

 

That's definitely fine.  It's all the same character.  Why wouldn't you want variety?  The complaints would be more valid if a Lando figure had never been produced or it had been awhile.  Different versions of a character is a positive thing.  

[lego the hutt]

2 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

 

What an odd take to call it an odd take. Never tell me the odd takes. 

Wow... This gotta be the most miserable metric i've seen for a long time. If i ever wanna disagree with someone just for the sake of it, rest assured, i'm gonna use this one. 

I wonder what Greedo's minifigure per seconds of screen time ratio would be... I reckon, it's like ten seconds. 

It reminds me of this terrible money per hour measurement for certain entertainment media. Seeing it again on a Lego forum wasn't on my personal bingo card. 

Yeah, that's my point. He has been incredibly inaccessible as of late. 

And what timeframe would you consider someone as being "new to the hobby"? If you are not @BrickBob Studpants, chances are you are not collecting this theme since 1999. Plus pretty much everyone has their dark ages sooner or later. New generations getting into Lego as well. That's why a steady supply of certain characters (just like sets) can work wonders. And this is clearly not the case in here. 

No, but since you were basically asking for this, we will get into an extented Lego Lando history lesson: 

The first Bespin Lando was released in a $100 set in 2003. At the time, this was pretty expensive. And we certainly don't need to talk about after market prices. Then just a short 15 years later, we got the one and only modern rendition of the Cloud City Lando, arguably his most iconic look. In a $350 set... also expensive in 2018. It already retired at the end of the following year and that's that. The 2019 anniversary figure is obviously a callback to the classic minifigure. So, the point still stands, as of today, the most desirable version of Lando was never made available in an affordable play scale set. That's the definition of inaccessible. It's an unnecessary rarity. 

The rest fares addmittably better than this... though still not great. The two Skiff Guard Landos came out in 2006 and 2012, respectively... which is alright. However the third one took until last year. Not much consistency going on there. General Lando released in 2009 and 2017. Nothing since then. Wouldn't describe that as recent. But at least those figures came in regular sets. 

 

Haha it's fine if you didn't like the screentime metric.  It was just to make a point about Lando being a support character.  Don't overthink it.  Understand the point that we have gotten a bunch of Lando figs and he doesn't have that much screentime.  Of course there are other characters with a higher ratio of figs to screentime 😆.

Since you asked, personally, I would say people are new to Lego as a hobby if they have only been an adult collector for less than 10 years or so.  If you are a child you are just playing with toys and it's not actually a hobby at that point 🤷.  But to each their own.  

I'm aware of the Lando figures we have gotten.   The frequency is what was being discussed (not cost). You don't have to give the whole brickipedia break down 😆.  We just got a Lando fig in 2024 and there was a bespin Lando on the shelves in 2020.  That's why the complaints seemed unreasonable.

 

 

 

[Lordhelmet]

4 minutes ago, lego the hutt said:

I'm aware of the Lando figures we have gotten.   The frequency is what was being discussed (not cost). You don't have to give the whole brickipedia break down 😆.  We just got a Lando fig in 2024 and there was a bespin Lando on the shelves in 2020.  That's why the complaints seemed unreasonable.

Your argument is that because we got Lando dressed as Tamale Skreej, is that the cloud city Lando is not needed?

[BrickPrick]

3 minutes ago, lego the hutt said:

Haha it's fine if you didn't like the screentime metric.  It was just to make a point about Lando being a support character.  Don't overthink it.  Understand the point that we have gotten a bunch of Lando figs and he doesn't have that much screentime.  Of course there are other characters with a higher ratio of figs to screentime 😆.

Since you asked, personally, I would say people are new to Lego as a hobby if they have only been an adult collector for less than 10 years or so.  If you are a child you are just playing with toys and it's not actually a hobby at that point 🤷.  But to each their own.  

I'm aware of the Lando figures we have gotten.   The frequency is what was being discussed (not cost). You don't have to give the whole brickipedia break down 😆.  We just got a Lando fig in 2024 and there was a bespin Lando on the shelves in 2020.  That's why the complaints seemed unreasonable.

So, you overthink stuff and then tell me i shouldn't overthink the stuff you were just overthinking? 

Okay, so by your definition i am still new to Lego Star Wars. So my chances of getting a new Lando is obviously more limited compared to someone who is collecting longer than me. Don't forget... we are all biased in some regards. 

My initial point was his inaccessible status. And the price points definitely contributed to that. So I'd say this is part of the discussion at hand. 

And yes, the 20th anniversary Lando was still on shelves in 2020... but a mere replica of the original figure. Like i said, there was never any modern Bespin based Lando released in a system scale set... and this just feels out of place to me. 

In terms of it's availability, it might be fair to differenciate a bit between Cloud City Lando and his other versions, though. 

[lego the hutt]

Lol I was admitting the mins of screen time metric was a little silly.  It was trying to make a point about supporting characters but clearly the point wasn't as obvious as I was hoping.  The exact minutes were being focused on instead of the overarching point of primary vs support characters 😜.

So you want a "modern version" of a specific character in a specific outfit when we have gotten multiple slightly different versions and you are nit picking that you haven't gotten exactly what you wanted.  You do realize that comes off as slightly unreasonable right? 😆.  It's this kind of thing that is why eurobricks has the reputation it does 🤷

[Llewop]

22 minutes ago, lego the hutt said:

Lol I was admitting the mins of screen time metric was a little silly.  It was trying to make a point about supporting characters but clearly the point wasn't as obvious as I was hoping.  The exact minutes were being focused on instead of the overarching point of primary vs support characters 😜.

So you want a "modern version" of a specific character in a specific outfit when we have gotten multiple slightly different versions and you are nit picking that you haven't gotten exactly what you wanted.  You do realize that comes off as slightly unreasonable right? 😆.  It's this kind of thing that is why eurobricks has the reputation it does 🤷

We are all guilty of it really. Wishlisting can’t be helped sometimes people are more realistic than others 

[Mandalorianknight]

I'm not even going to dignify this sentiment with further response, everyone else is doing an excellent job explaining how utterly absurd this argument is.

Though he's getting what he wants it seems, as at least for 1HY there are no leaks I've seen about sets that would include Lando...

 

or Han, or Luke, or Chewbacca, or Leia, or a Stormtrooper...

If the theme continues the way it's going, by the end of next year the only way to get any non-vader member of the main OT cast directly from lego will be to spend almost a thousand dollars.

Edited 8 hours ago by Mandalorianknight

[Darth_Bane13]

I still think the next Falcon should be ROTJ themed, although it probably wont happen because we got Nien Nunb as an anniversary figure. 

[MKJoshA]

I think we need to tone down the Lando discussion. It's getting pretty heated and it doesn't need to. Each person is entitled to his or her own opinion. @lego the hutt has shared his, and given reasoning for it. You can disagree, but no one need to go on the offensive. 

[BrickPrick]

2 hours ago, lego the hutt said:

So you want a "modern version" of a specific character in a specific outfit when we have gotten multiple slightly different versions and you are nit picking that you haven't gotten exactly what you wanted.  You do realize that comes off as slightly unreasonable right? 😆.  It's this kind of thing that is why eurobricks has the reputation it does 🤷

Well, wishlisting is a personal thing, yeah. Of course, it can be perceived as "unreasonable" by people who don't want it or necessarily care for it. Nothing special about it. For you, it's nitpicking. For me, it's an unnecessary restriction on Lego's part. For you, it's enough. For me, it's not. Simple as that. It might serve you if you were slightly more open minded about such things. Instead of using the extraordinary "Eurobricks reputation" as an excuse. 

I know, this isn't exactly the place for some excessive wishlisting, so this will be my last Lando posting for now and leave it at that. 

Edited 7 hours ago by BrickPrick

[Llewop]

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I'm not even going to dignify this sentiment with further response, everyone else is doing an excellent job explaining how utterly absurd this argument is.

Though he's getting what he wants it seems, as at least for 1HY there are no leaks I've seen about sets that would include Lando...

 

or Han, or Luke, or Chewbacca, or Leia, or a Stormtrooper...

If the theme continues the way it's going, by the end of next year the only way to get any non-vader member of the main OT cast directly from lego will be to spend almost a thousand dollars.

SW is such a big thing now nobody likes the whole thing. Whilst your preference maybe the OT it’s not now everyone’s. The more new content we have and the more the years roll by its prevalence will diminish. The skywalker saga is supposedly over and the last few projects have all been looking beyond that and SW is successful without having those main characters. 

let’s remember Andor is one of the best received series and that is a spinoff to a spinoff which is a sequel to the prequel era and also a prequel to the originals and apart from a handful of prequel cameos (except mon mothma) 

im not saying they should stop making OT stuff but the rate at which new stuff comes out the demand will go down for the OT stuff. The next x wings, y wings, a wings, TIe, snowspeeders, AT-ATs aren’t going to be based on the OT anymore it’ll be on something different something current and in more demand. Chances are anything OT will be aimed at adults so that UCS and Dioramas (if they are still a thing) 

it’s not my place to say that what you like about SW is wrong but I think everyone here needs reminding constantly that just because person A likes this doesn’t mean everyone else is in the same boat. It’s one of the downsides of algorithms is that we only see what they think we want to see which is people who ageee with us and often it isn’t a true representation.

i think Lego’s sales might indicate how well they can cope without featuring the main OT cast. If they think they can do it then they can. But all everyone has here is opinions and nobody ever shares one you just got to respect that people look at things differently. 

if Disney and Lucas film get their arses in gear we are set for new tv and films until at least the end of the 2020s now is rather Lego focus on the new stuff and if they are revisiting older media focus on things that haven’t been done before or haven’t been done in at least 10 years. 

50 minutes ago, BrickPrick said:

Well, wishlisting is a personal thing, yeah. Of course, it can be perceived as "unreasonable" by people who don't want it or necessarily care for it. Nothing special about it. For you, it's nitpicking. For me, it's an unnecessary restriction on Lego's part. For you, it's enough. For me, it's not. Simple as that. It might serve you if you were slightly more open minded about such things. Instead of using the extraordinary "Eurobricks reputation" as an excuse. 

I know, this isn't exactly the place for some excessive wishlisting, so this will be my last Lando posting for now and leave it at that. 

The Lando series is still being worked on last time I checked so there is always hope he gets a set for that series. For me Lando has always seemed like he was a Han while Han was frozen. Didn’t really bring much else to the table, but actually thinking about it I don’t actually like that many SW characters lol, like a true SW fan. 

[CallumPears]

Just a small correction with the Lando thing: the 20th Anniversary Snowspeeder was only on shelves for a few months. It actually retired in December 2019 and at least in all the shops around me it disappeared pretty fast. I could still find the Imperial Dropship and Clone Walker (which retired at the same time) for a while after and even managed to get the Dropship on clearance for £12 but the Snowspeeder basically evaporated overnight. 

And yeah I'm firmly on the side that Bespin stuff in general doesn't get made enough, with Mr Calrissian being a big part of that. They should've put him in the 2017 freezing chamber set.

Anyway, AT-ST pictures when? (Also better quality pictures of the others since we still haven't seen the 327th pack all together or any other angles of the other sets) They're all set to release on 1st August (right?) so I'd be very surprised if we don't have anything more before the start of July since at that point it'd basically be time for the official reveals. 

Edited 4 hours ago by CallumPears

[Mandalorianknight]

4 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

I still think the next Falcon should be ROTJ themed, although it probably wont happen because we got Nien Nunb as an anniversary figure. 

Yeah I think that implies lego as of last year had no plans for an ROTJ falcon (or minifig Fallen Order/survivor sets...) 

It's been long enough that the new system falcon, which I doubt we see until 2027, should probably just be the stock ANH one. Which would dovetail nicely with the anniversary- I don't think we should be celebrating every time a project has been around another 5 years, but the 50th is a pretty big deal.

1 hour ago, Llewop said:

SW is such a big thing now nobody likes the whole thing. Whilst your preference maybe the OT it’s not now everyone’s. The more new content we have and the more the years roll by its prevalence will diminish. The skywalker saga is supposedly over and the last few projects have all been looking beyond that and SW is successful without having those main characters. 

...I don't understand this reaction to "there's a good chance none of the main hero characters from the literal backbone of the franchise will be availible for under $1000 by the end of next year"

I never said everyone should prefer the OT. I simply pointed out that there's a good chance not a single OT hero will be availible in a sub $1000 set by the end of 2026, which I think is a pretty understandable thing to be concerned about.

I've argued before that the main prequel cast should be more readily availible. I've said before we need the main sequel cast to show up in a set or two. This isn't some sort of OT favoritism thing (Though let's be clear- the OT SHOULDN'T be forgotten. It IS the backbone of the franchise, it's why star wars exists and is successful at all, and the majority of well-recieved disney era projects (Rogue One, Mando, Andor) draw heavily from it.), this is pointing out that the main heroes of an entire third of the franchise could soon become unobtainable from official sources unless you've got a full grand of spending money burning a hole in your pocket.

18 minutes ago, CallumPears said:

Anyway, AT-ST pictures when? (Also better quality pictures of the others since we still haven't seen the 327th pack all together or any other angles of the other sets) They're all set to release on 1st August (right?) so I'd be very surprised if we don't have anything more before the start of July since at that point it'd basically be time for the official reveals. 

The AT-ST is, for all intents and purposes, a UCS set, so I wouldn't be surprised if it took awhile longer for images to appear.

[joebiwankenobi]

On the same note, though, we've had an utter plethora of affordable sets over the last 6 years that had the main OT cast in them. Just check the sets since 2019 and then consider how got the extended shelf stays on most of them that seem to be more common now. If someone needs a Han, Luke, Leia, Old Ben, and whatever variant, they can be picked up for relatively cheap depending on the variant. Sure, some characters aren't as common, but then again, we've been waiting on how long for certain prequel characters now--looking at you Dooku? Don't get me wrong, I've been advocating for a ROTJ Falcon for 10 years now just for the figure compliment. Is it going to happen? Likely not. Do I foresee the inevitable *lost count at this point* remake of *insert OT ship here* where one can get any of the figs *relatively* (the prices have gone lulu oingo boingo not cheap) cheap (*at the current state of prices across the board*)? No doubt. 

I do think there's a lot to be thankful for in just as much as there is to be critical about although the latter always beats out the former when it comes to comments/posts/videos/etc. I'm not singling anyone here out, but just making a general comment. 

Some examples of good improvements are the variety of sets made, the increased stability/accuracy of models, the new parts/molds, the improvements on stickers, and the increased figure assortment. There are some obvious downsides though. I understand a lot of it is subjective, but there are some things such as quality control when it comes to parts/prints and price/model size. Some of the problems are the result of the improvements such as the models getting smaller as they get more compact/stronger, etc. Others are not though.

We've seen some major shifts in the product line over the last ten years and it seems the design team has taken a lot of community input/feedback into consideration, which, I think is a good thing. 

I'm happy that it's hopefully going to open the door to some cool stuff down the road. Hopefully! Didn't expect to see a UCS Jango Slave 1 ever. Hope we continue to see some prequel UCS stuff as that was always assumed to be ignored. 

Is it likely that TLG is now catering products more towards the CW era since they didn't really touch any of it for a very long time? Probably. Between the amount of people interested in that content and with how frequently it keeps coming up, it makes sense. 

Concerning the product output for "current" medias, I assume a lot of that deals down to the licensing agreement with Disney/Lucasfilm and the overall performance of a lot of product since the 2013 buyout or so. I think the strategy of playing it safe by making maybe 1 - 2 sets per new "thing" is pretty smart. Allows them to have some breathing room rather than have a whole wave and a lot of products become shelf warmers if the movie/media isn't well received. Will movies like the Mando/Baby deal have more sets. Probably. I'm sure there's a lot more to this as well that we won't ever really know, but thats neither here nor there. 

We're at a real interesting point to be a fan of Lego Star Wars. There's a lot of ships/characters/locations/etc. that TLG haven't made, but between the amount of custom fig makers and custom design instructions a fan can readily access now, I think TLG takes notice. I do think that plays into their consideration for product development/allotment as the design team has a lot of fan models built in their office over in Denmark. That's been a thing as far back as the UCS Imperial Shuttle and likely earlier. As fans, we can access and create a lot of what we don't have, but no one can deny it's nice when you can buy an official model. I can't remember what day some are at in campaigning for a TIE Avenger, but I imagine that will be something that has a higher likelihood of being made at some point. I mean, it's a TIE after all. Wait. We may not though, as we didn't get a Brute for Solo. However, as stated, we've got great fan designs to cover the bases TLG leaves empty. 

Overall, I think we've had a pretty diverse product compliment over the last few cycles, and look forward to what we're going to get in 2026. I'll admit, I haven't really bought a lot of it over the last few years, but I still enjoy it. Will there be controversy at some point? Undoubtedly. I just remember the days when the controversies with the brand were hilariously simple, like when TLG introduced curved wedges and slopes in 2002 and flesh tone figures in 2004 (Now that I think about it, it was in 2003, but it didn't really come to a head until the 2004 Falcon). The implications of both of those "incidents" have proven to be for the better. 

Alright, Grandpa's gone on too long at this point. Time to wheel myself back to the retirement center and find a Werther's candy or something similar.