LEGO Star Wars 2025 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Brickwraith]

Just now, Per_SW said:

I wonder if it's gonna be "oversized AT-RT + Dwarf Spider Droid" or "accurate size AT-RT + Regular Spider Droid". Hoping for the latter, dreading the former.

judging by the set being $40, I'd bet the build will be similarly sized to the one in the 501st battle pack from 2020

[Mandalorianknight]

3 minutes ago, Per_SW said:

I wonder if it's gonna be "oversized AT-RT + Dwarf Spider Droid" or "accurate size AT-RT + Regular Spider Droid". Hoping for the latter, dreading the former.

The last spider-droid was $30 (with a little Dwarf spider droid) in 2016, or about $40 today, with 2 minifigures and 2 B1s, and a number more pieces. Unfortunately there's no way it could be a full sized spider droid. The full sized AT-RTs tend to run around 180 pcs, so honestly at the piece count here, I think it has to be the oversized AT-RT and DSD, and they might even make the AT-RT a little more size accurate.

Man this is really a terrible deal the more I think about it, even compared to the 501st legion clone troopers set it's a smaller build (BARC assumably being larger than the DSD) and fewer pieces for one more droid. Not to mention how it fares compared to the 2024 battle pack, which had MORE characters.

1 hour ago, Brickwraith said:

looks like we have further details for the battle packs.

75412 - 119 pieces - 2 death troopers 2 night troopers - patrol gunship build

75431 - 258 pieces - 4 clones 3 super battle droids - At-rt and spider droids for the builds

And 75428 is a buildable B1 for $100

Gotta say the buildable droid confirmation is a big disappointment

Unfortunate on that trooper ratio- I'll probably just get one copy than as they aren't the largest army in-universe and we only saw 2 DTs. Hopefully they get around to a full-sized patrol gunship with Enoch at some point, I'm interested to see how they could pull off a gunship for $20, is it just going to seat a pilot?

The 327th set is hilarious- It's the $30 set from last year without the B1s, and 40ish more parts for $10 more. Genius. Truly, a masterstroke, I'm sure the children will drastically prefer the new one. (It's especially funny because I imagine the 2024 BP will still be on shelves at many retailers, and it's only $24 at most walmarts now, so the choice on-shelves is fewer characters and a handful more pieces for almost double the price).

I like the 327th, I've talked about this before, so a part of me is cynically happy- it should be easy to get a copy of this at steep discount in a year or so.

[Brickwraith]

7 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

The last spider-droid was $30 (with a little Dwarf spider droid) in 2016, or about $40 today, with 2 minifigures and 2 B1s, and a number more pieces. Unfortunately there's no way it could be a full sized spider droid. The full sized AT-RTs tend to run around 180 pcs, so honestly at the piece count here, I think it has to be the oversized AT-RT and DSD, and they might even make the AT-RT a little more size accurate.

Man this is really a terrible deal the more I think about it, even compared to the 501st legion clone troopers set it's a smaller build (BARC assumably being larger than the DSD) and fewer pieces for one more droid. Not to mention how it fares compared to the 2024 battle pack, which had MORE characters.

Unfortunate on that trooper ratio- I'll probably just get one copy than as they aren't the largest army in-universe and we only saw 2 DTs. Hopefully they get around to a full-sized patrol gunship with Enoch at some point, I'm interested to see how they could pull off a gunship for $20, is it just going to seat a pilot?

The 327th set is hilarious- It's the $30 set from last year without the B1s, and 40ish more parts for $10 more. Genius. Truly, a masterstroke, I'm sure the children will drastically prefer the new one. (It's especially funny because I imagine the 2024 BP will still be on shelves at many retailers, and it's only $24 at most walmarts now, so the choice on-shelves is fewer characters and a handful more pieces for almost double the price).

I like the 327th, I've talked about this before, so a part of me is cynically happy- it should be easy to get a copy of this at steep discount in a year or so.

Yeah, the 327th set is absolutely gonna be easy to get on discount. I'm interested in the legion but it does not sound worth that price tag in the slightest.

Edited January 21 by Brickwraith

[Mandalorianknight]

1 hour ago, Brickwraith said:

Yeah, the 327th set is absolutely gonna be easy to get on discount. I'm interested in the legion but it does not sound worth that price tag in the slightest.

Agreed.

 

On a slightly separate note, there is an hour+ video out by the youtuber/lego masters winner Duckbricks about the fall of lego's unlicensed story themes, and he touches on the topic I've mentioned here about lego expending much of their effort on obtaining adult sales from people not already fans of lego. I reccomend watching it, it's a pretty comprehensive view on what drives lego's choices and some of their successes and failures over the years, but as it relates to here the main point is the idea that lego has put a significant amount of their resources into capturing that "adults who can be convinced to buy lego" market. I do wonder if part of the hesitation to, for instance, put a minifigure into the midi-scale sets is a concern that it would cause adults to view them as kiddie, as the majority of their 18+ gimmick lines for star wars don't include figures. 

[Rwbricks]

33 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

On a slightly separate note, there is an hour+ video out by the youtuber/lego masters winner Duckbricks about the fall of lego's unlicensed story themes, and he touches on the topic I've mentioned here about lego expending much of their effort on obtaining adult sales from people not already fans of lego. I reccomend watching it, it's a pretty comprehensive view on what drives lego's choices and some of their successes and failures over the years, but as it relates to here the main point is the idea that lego has put a significant amount of their resources into capturing that "adults who can be convinced to buy lego" market. I do wonder if part of the hesitation to, for instance, put a minifigure into the midi-scale sets is a concern that it would cause adults to view them as kiddie, as the majority of their 18+ gimmick lines for star wars don't include figures. 

That sounds interesting, I’ll have to check it out. Thanks! 
 

I agree with your reasoning behind the lack of minifigures. They can work as scale counterparts with the display plaques for the brick-built characters, but less so with the ships. 
 

On the topic of the B-1, I have always thought that a buildable one would be cool, wishing they made one when they were doing the constraction figures way back when. I am intrigued at the new one, but $100 seems like way too much for what I’m envisioning. 

[THELEGOBATMAN]

12 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Either that or a B1.

He is the messiah!

[starlego98]

With all that leaks It amazes me that some people believe that we are going to get a full wave based on revenge of the sith 

[THELEGOBATMAN]

Interesting tidbit about 75433, an unknown ship set. A reliable leaker on Discord said that it's a "regular retail" set, and "they think they understand why it's being kept a secret".

Wonder what it could be then... this is the only unknown set left for 2025. Kinda crazy that it's January, and we already know the full line-up for the year (which is great, since it helps assess the budget).

[CallumPears]

8 hours ago, Brickwraith said:

75431 - 258 pieces - 4 clones 3 super battle droids - At-rt and spider droids for the builds

Sounds like a ripoff (based on the previous price rumour), and as others have said I'm not looking forward to yet another terrible oversized AT-RT. It's crazy that the only good models of that vehicle are the ones that came as side-builds in the Turbo Tanks. All the other ones have gone straight into my spare parts drawers. They could've at least made it something 327th-relevant like the ISP, or even a downsized AT-AP (I always prefer downsizing rather than oversizing).

And I don't think anyone cares about Super Battle Droids anymore as you can get them for under £1 each on Bricklink now since the Clones vs Droids pack came out last year. 

It should've really just been a standard battle pack. Cut the droids, and I wouldn't even mind if the vehicle was the usual made-up battle pack slop since it sounds like what we're getting is basically pointless anyway and only exists to double the price (unless it is a large Homing Spider as others have suggested, which would actually be cool). A properly-scaled AT-RT would also make for a perfect regular BP build if they were to make it something actually canon, which would still be my preference.

8 hours ago, Brickwraith said:

75412 - 119 pieces - 2 death troopers 2 night troopers - patrol gunship build

This one's also pretty disappointing. A Patrol Gunship build was kinda predictable; I just hope it doesn't rule out getting a full-sized one in the next couple of years.

And the minifigure ratio... How many times do we need to say this to them? This is why the 2020 Sith Trooper pack failed to sell well, and has been an issue in others as well (even as far back as the 2014 Utapau troopers). When you have a specialist troop type and a massable troop type, you put in more of the massable ones. Simple. (And it applies even more to the officers in certain other battle packs. Getting one is fine, but making them 2 out of 4 figures is a mistake they've made far too many times.)

Maybe it at least means they'll be 2 unique designs (with different damage patterns), but I'm not too hopeful.

(From a selfish perspective I'm not distraught as I was kinda only interested in the Death Troopers anyway since I don't like the new Stormtroopers, but I'm talking about the wider appeal of the set here.)

Edited January 21 by CallumPears

[Agent Kallus]

10 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I think we can piece together an overall strategy for lego from stuff like this and the clone dominance- if something works for them, they go all-in, to the exclusion of anything else. 

That has been a trend.

I almost wish that the 18+ Prop/helmet/spaceship/large scale characters was a separate subline. Like Art, Brick sketches and Blockheads it could have many licenses (existing and otherwise) under it but leave those lines for minifig syatem playsets.

They could call it Lego Proplica ( a portmanteau of Prop and Replica).

5 hours ago, Per_SW said:

I wonder if it's gonna be "oversized AT-RT + Dwarf Spider Droid" or "accurate size AT-RT + Regular Spider Droid". Hoping for the latter, dreading the former.

Had this exact same thought and was gonna post it before I saw you'd already had 

7 hours ago, Brickwraith said:

looks like we have further details for the battle packs.

75412 - 119 pieces - 2 death troopers 2 night troopers - patrol gunship build

75431 - 258 pieces - 4 clones 3 super battle droids - At-rt and spider droids for the builds

And 75428 is a buildable B1 for $100

Gotta say the buildable droid confirmation is a big disappointment

Nice to get two double death troopers, though the ratio should skew towards night troopers really. ( Though we'll probably see more Nighttroopers in other sets, especially when Ashoka 2 and Filoni's movie comes round)

I hope they're unique, considering the Nighttroopers weren't a very uniform bunch.

A shame set 75431 took the boring route instead of the weird slug route. This type of set is really gonna sell based on its minifigs so I don't think the Gelagrub would have hurt it's sales.

Edited January 21 by Agent Kallus

[Coryo]

4 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Interesting tidbit about 75433, an unknown ship set. A reliable leaker on Discord said that it's a "regular retail" set, and "they think they understand why it's being kept a secret".

Wonder what it could be then... this is the only unknown set left for 2025. Kinda crazy that it's January, and we already know the full line-up for the year (which is great, since it helps assess the budget).

Huh, generally the only sets that are kept secret are ones that would have spoilers for upcoming movies or shows, could this be an Andor S2 set? 

[THELEGOBATMAN]

Just now, Coryo said:

Huh, generally the only sets that are kept secret are ones that would have spoilers for upcoming movies or shows, could this be an Andor S2 set? 

I don't think so, since I'm pretty sure the leakers have said that there aren't any more Andor sets for this year.

[Agent Kallus]

Could it be a retailer exclusive then? Takes us longer to know details on those too.

Edited January 21 by Agent Kallus

[THELEGOBATMAN]

42 minutes ago, Agent Kallus said:

Could it be a retailer exclusive then? Takes us longer to know details on those too.

They specifically said it's a regular retailer set when asked the same question.

[Agent Kallus]

1 minute ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

They specifically said it's a regular retailer set when asked the same question.

That answers that then

 

[Lego Nostalgia]

3 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

That has been a trend.

I almost wish that the 18+ Prop/helmet/spaceship/large scale characters was a separate subline. Like Art, Brick sketches and Blockheads it could have many licenses (existing and otherwise) under it but leave those lines for minifig syatem playsets.

They could call it Lego Proplica ( a portmanteau of Prop and Replica).

Had this exact same thought and was gonna post it before I saw you'd already had 

Nice to get two double death troopers, though the ratio should skew towards night troopers really. ( Though we'll probably see more Nighttroopers in other sets, especially when Ashoka 2 and Filoni's movie comes round)

I hope they're unique, considering the Nighttroopers weren't a very uniform bunch.

A shame set 75431 took the boring route instead of the weird slug route. This type of set is really gonna sell based on its minifigs so I don't think the Gelagrub would have hurt it's sales.

Something tells me Filoni's movie will never see the light of day, it's SW after all, Announce Project, Project never made

All depends on how Mandalorian & Green thing does at the box office

I really hope Bly is included in the BP

[QuiggoldsPegLeg]

2 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

I don't think so, since I'm pretty sure the leakers have said that there aren't any more Andor sets for this year.

What else could be something that would make sense to be kept secret? Andor S2 is the only thing coming out this year, unless it’s based on another season of the “Tales of the ____” series, since those have had a relatively short time between announcement and airing in the past. Unless there’s another animated series they’ve kept under wraps and are set to announce soon. Or it’s based on a video game or something. 

[Mandalorianknight]

8 hours ago, Rwbricks said:

I agree with your reasoning behind the lack of minifigures. They can work as scale counterparts with the display plaques for the brick-built characters, but less so with the ships. 
 

On the topic of the B-1, I have always thought that a buildable one would be cool, wishing they made one when they were doing the constraction figures way back when. I am intrigued at the new one, but $100 seems like way too much for what I’m envisioning. 

Yeah, exactly. I don't think it would be an issue in reality but I wonder if it's what they're concerned about.

And yeah the B1 could actually turn out to be a cool, if oversized, set, the issue I have is moreso how many buildable droids/characters we're getting this year. It's my least favorite of the sublines too.

4 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

That has been a trend.

I almost wish that the 18+ Prop/helmet/spaceship/large scale characters was a separate subline. Like Art, Brick sketches and Blockheads it could have many licenses (existing and otherwise) under it but leave those lines for minifig syatem playsets.

They could call it Lego Proplica ( a portmanteau of Prop and Replica).

A shame set 75431 took the boring route instead of the weird slug route. This type of set is really gonna sell based on its minifigs so I don't think the Gelagrub would have hurt it's sales.

Yeah, especially since they've done the helmets and dioramas in multiple themes in the same style. It basically already is one of those sublines, it just eats into the budget of the themes it draws from. Which is funny because if they're doing so well they could probably have separate budgets.

Dunno abut that name though

Yeah no they could have just bundled the figs with a botanicals set and gone "it's felucia terrain" and I don't think sales would be impacted all that much. (Not just because it's a battle pack but because they're shooting themselves in the foot by making a set with almost objectively worse value than the 2024 pack that at many retailers will still be on shelves alongside it)

2 hours ago, Coryo said:

Huh, generally the only sets that are kept secret are ones that would have spoilers for upcoming movies or shows, could this be an Andor S2 set? 

VISIONS S3 SET woooo yeah let's go.

Realistically not sure what this would be. They didn't keep RTG sets secret last year, and it's too early for a TMAG set.

[THELEGOBATMAN]

24 minutes ago, QuiggoldsPegLeg said:

What else could be something that would make sense to be kept secret? Andor S2 is the only thing coming out this year, unless it’s based on another season of the “Tales of the ____” series, since those have had a relatively short time between announcement and airing in the past. Unless there’s another animated series they’ve kept under wraps and are set to announce soon. Or it’s based on a video game or something. 

That's what I'm thinking too.

Obviously I'd kill for another Andor set, as you all probably know, but I'm gonna keep my hopes in check as to not become fully delusional.

The hint is vague, and I've no idea what it's even alluding to.

[Meaf]

6 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Interesting tidbit about 75433, an unknown ship set. A reliable leaker on Discord said that it's a "regular retail" set, and "they think they understand why it's being kept a secret".

Wonder what it could be then... this is the only unknown set left for 2025. Kinda crazy that it's January, and we already know the full line-up for the year (which is great, since it helps assess the budget).

Wait, isn't this the one that we also heard we shouldn't be too excited for? Seems almost oxymoronic that it would be so secretive and yet also not that interesting, but with how the rest of this wave has turned out maybe it's to be expected .

[GlacierPhoenix]

2 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

Something tells me Filoni's movie will never see the light of day, it's SW after all, Announce Project, Project never made

All depends on how Mandalorian & Green thing does at the box office

I mean of any of the projects to get made i'd expect his to go forward considering he's basically in charge of Star Wars and they have been building to it with Mando S3, Ahsok, and likely Ahsoka season 2 and Mando & Grogu. 

[Agent Kallus]

1 hour ago, Meaf said:

Wait, isn't this the one that we also heard we shouldn't be too excited for? Seems almost oxymoronic that it would be so secretive and yet also not that interesting, but with how the rest of this wave has turned out maybe it's to be expected .

Maybe it's something like an Accolyte set? Relatively recent show so might be secretive, but viewed as uninteresting by those who don't like the show? A forest duel set with Qimir, Sol and Jecki would be great but I doubt that because if it's being called uninteresting it's probably a repeat?

Though lots of 'repeats' could be very interesting like a B-wing, bounty hunter chase, Tie Defender, AT- DP Nu class shuttle or a Laat/le. So it probably would be one of those?

And then we have to ask if it's the gigs that are uninteresting or the build? The whole set was called uninteresting so maybe both but 'uninteresting' is a very subjective term.

If it's an uninteresting set that's a ship ( is that confirmed?) and likely a repeat my first guess would be a Snowspeeder.

 

[THELEGOBATMAN]

8 minutes ago, Agent Kallus said:

If it's an uninteresting set that's a ship ( is that confirmed?) and likely a repeat my first guess would be a Snowspeeder.

Yeah, it's confirmed to be a ship.

[Zap Rowsdower]

Do we have a set number and piece count?

[Meaf]

1 hour ago, Agent Kallus said:

Maybe it's something like an Accolyte set? Relatively recent show so might be secretive, but viewed as uninteresting by those who don't like the show? A forest duel set with Qimir, Sol and Jecki would be great but I doubt that because if it's being called uninteresting it's probably a repeat?

Though lots of 'repeats' could be very interesting like a B-wing, bounty hunter chase, Tie Defender, AT- DP Nu class shuttle or a Laat/le. So it probably would be one of those?

And then we have to ask if it's the gigs that are uninteresting or the build? The whole set was called uninteresting so maybe both but 'uninteresting' is a very subjective term.

If it's an uninteresting set that's a ship ( is that confirmed?) and likely a repeat my first guess would be a Snowspeeder.

 

I don't really see it being Acolyte given how long it's been since it aired, especially since if it took this long to make, it'd mean they likely didn't even start working on it until after it was already known to have flopped. Snowspeeder makes a lot of sense as a relatively bland choice, but I cannot think of any reason why it would need to stay secret. I can't find the exact quote but I believe it was along the lines of "we shouldn't expect much from it," so I suppose that could really be taken any number of ways. A remake of an OT ship still seems like the most likely option for that sort of sentiment, but again, I don't know why that would need to be kept secret. Maybe it's a TFA set? I'm not really sure why that would need to be secret either but it'd at least line up with this being the anniversary and already getting a few other sets.