Marvel Superheroes 2025 - Rumors & Discussion

[wesker]

3 hours ago, RobbieHxC said:

Also I firmly believe this is not the full cast, and Wolverine, Spider-Man, Doctor Strange, Scarlet Witch, Photon, War Machine, and more will appear.  Surely Photon is in an X-Men universe from the post-credits of The Marvels,  and this is how the main universe is introduced to the X-Men.

With the number of X-Men they've announced so far surely Storm, Jean and Rogue would also have to be in it. They'd be foolish to leave them out.
 

1 hour ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

But anyway I'm going off track of Lego here lol

I am desperately waiting for new Marvel set updates

Need Figure lists and set details updates

Outside of set photos and the identity of Marvel's D2C is there anything else that's still left to be revealed for this year?

[Mandalorianknight]

2 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

I agree that I don't want them to taint Daredevil and the Punisher even though Daredevil was humiliated in She-Hulk, Kingpin became weak in Echo, but if you look at the comics, Daredevil and Punisher interact with the Avengers a lot, if it works in the comics it can work in the MCU

Apparently Punisher might fight the Hulk in Spider-man which I don't know what he could do, maybe hold him off by shooting at him for a second lol

I'm not talking about the hypothetical concept of them in an avengers level event, I'm talking about not wanting their characters to be tarnished by the specific film Avengers Doomsday that I have little faith in.

What? I googled this and you certainly aren't wrong but what the hell are they smoking? I wouldn't mind seeing a classic Punisher Trap/ the classic "Punisher wins a fight he absolutely shouldn't because he shot batman and grabbed his plot armor" but from all the spider-man rumors it sounds like they're writing character names on darts and throwing them at the script.

38 minutes ago, NXS7 said:

Why wouldn't Sam be leading the Avengers though? NWH didn't do massive numbers at the box office, but that's hardly much of a reason for Captain America not to be leading the team. Plus the MCU is such a wide mess of properties right now that there's probably no one better to lead them

I think he's safe as leader if for no other reason than there's no other real options left (I think Thor would work best but they aren't gonna do that), but you can't deny BNW bombed (NWH did well but is irrelevant to falcon cap :) ). He'll lead them because there's no other real choices to do so, but I think we've pretty concretely seen very few people are cheering for Falcon Cap.

28 minutes ago, wesker said:

With the number of X-Men they've announced so far surely Storm, Jean and Rogue would also have to be in it. They'd be foolish to leave them out.

They're giving RDJ alone an inconceivable amount of money, between that and the fact that they've hired 75% of the actors who have ever played a marvel character, maybe they just ran out of money? 

But seriously with everyone in this film it's gonna need to make infinity war numbers to break even.

[hvader]

Please, Lego, give us Fox X-Men, Gambit, and Sentry. That’s all I want

[brickbride]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I think he's safe as leader if for no other reason than there's no other real options left (I think Thor would work best but they aren't gonna do that), but you can't deny BNW bombed (NWH did well but is irrelevant to falcon cap :) ). He'll lead them because there's no other real choices to do so, but I think we've pretty concretely seen very few people are cheering for Falcon Cap.

Thor? Absolutely not. Thor's entire character arc in his own movies consisted of his realizing that Loki was right from the beginning, he sucks as a king, and his finally handing over leadership of the Asgardians to Valkyrie. (Who IMO isn't a much better choice but they were kind of out of Asgardian options at that point.) All Thor can do is bust heads and he's not smart either. Star-Lord would be a much better choice. He actually has social skills, he's cunning, he's fun, he has leadership experience of a very diverse team, and also he's of Earth yet open-minded enough to work with aliens. Having Team Let's Save Earth led by an alien would kind of defeat the point. The only other options I can think of are Captain Marvel (which isn't going to happen) and Dr Strange (who probably works better in a sort of advisor/wild card role).

As for box office figures, again they had to have known why they emphasized the entire Harrison Ford/Red Hulk thing in their marketing for BNW. It's because no-one's invested in Falcon. And they brought back RDJ. They know we're more invested in the original cast (not necessarily only the six original Avengers, but everyone who had a large role up until Infinity War) than in anything that's come after. Star-Lord has already carried three successful movies (okay, the third one was more about Rocket, but still) and unlike Strange he's not so powerful that they constantly have to come up with reasons why he doesn't just do all this stuff by himself instead of needing a team. He'd be the best choice IMO.

Edited March 28 by brickbride

[thebricksbear]

Man this thread is insane. I don't know why some of you guys are even here when every comment is just clear disdain for Marvel. New Doomsday hype is released with generally cool, surprising news and you still want to complain about Cap 4.

 

Regarding the X-men, it's easy to assume this is a send-off for the Fox-men, but I'm skeptical as we've done several send-offs already, particularly for Patrick Stewart. I have no doubt James Marsden will be in the Uncanny Cyclops suit, so I hope this movie doesn't kill chances for the next generation of MCU Xmen in those costumes. I've been skipping the Xmen '97 sets because getting MCU-only sets is how I keep my lego budget under control, so I'm psyched to finally get some X-men.

Marsden was doing press tour for Sonic 3 and it became kind of a bit that he kept bringing up Cyclops in every interview- hilarious now knowing that he was dropping major hints.

[Swordy]

3 hours ago, thebricksbear said:

Man this thread is insane. I don't know why some of you guys are even here when every comment is just clear disdain for Marvel.

I concur. Even as a man who loves to endlessly (and sometimes senselessly, lol) debate, I can’t bring myself to reply to any of these comments. No point when the other person is just as stubborn as I, lol.

Nobody here is in charge at Marvel; there’s no point in being obtusely pessimistic when you can’t change anything. Even when X-Men are announced, the one group fans have been awaiting to join the MCU for decades now, people have to complain that they won’t be good enough… despite that we’re months away from seeing a single frame of this movie. If the Russos could pull off Infinity War (to varying success, but I digress) and Endgame (to outstanding success, but I digress) then I have no doubt they can pull off this movie. This is their battle they decided to pick; out of any of the multiverse, they chose to tackle these Avengers and these X-Men.

(Edit: Rethought what I said. I’ll clarify that of course there’ll be apprehensions, and that’s well and good. However, to say that a movie won’t be good because of the studio producing it without seeing anything of the film is rash. Disney hasn’t made some great films recently, but people shouldn’t judge each upcoming film according to the abysmal failure of Snow White. People say Marvel Studios fails when they experiment with characters beyond the original cast; people say Marvel Studios will fail because they decide to play the guaranteed hits. Let the quality of the film speak for itself.)

The lack of Hawkeye hurts, though—and where’s Wong anyway?

Edited March 28 by Swordy

[The_Fiery_Rooster]

Honestly, whether the movies are good or not shouldn't matter, at least when it come to Lego stuff. Fantastic 4 can be a complete failure and I wouldn't care because it still means we finally get minifigs of them and Galactus too. Same goes for these avengers movies, I'm excited for a chance to get the characters from the x-mansion in retail sets and a few new mutants as well. Same goes for Shang Chi, (didn't get any of the og sets, plus they can fix the skintone) Dr. Doom, doombots, and maybe even some Fantastic 4 variants. (shirtless thing, whatever version of Johnny we don't get) That's not even mentioning some of the crazy rumors we've heard or the other characters we haven't seen yet. We also have no clue what the builds could be, Doomstadt would be awesome and I would certainly welcome a playset of the fox x-mansion. So to me, as an AFOL, I don't really care about the quality of these movies, as long as they provide new figures and builds to fill in the gaps of my Marvel collection.

[CF Mitch]

Damn, so many characters in Avengers: Doomsday 
I'm still a bit concerned for the film, with the way everything's been going lately, but I have some faith since the Russo Brothers are directing, so  

To be honest, I think a lot of those announced yesterday will only be cameos (or something slightly bigger than that), so I'm afraid we won't see all of these turned into LEGO.

Regards,
Mitch

[doclord]

Yeah I thought this was the Marvel lego set thread, not the MCU discussion general.

[Mandalorianknight]

6 hours ago, thebricksbear said:

Man this thread is insane. I don't know why some of you guys are even here when every comment is just clear disdain for Marvel. New Doomsday hype is released with generally cool, surprising news and you still want to complain about Cap 4

I love Marvel. I dislike the current state of the franchise. Should I stop commenting about Lego Marvel because I dislike stuff like the new Endgame Final Battle set?

In terms of Doomsday, you cannot deny that Cap 4's failure is a reason to be cautious about the film. If the character who will assumably lead the avengers in that movie can't carry his own movie, there is an issue. I like the X-men and am especially excited to see Cyclops again but cameos cannot save a movie if the main cast isn't up to par.

 

Edit: You want positivity? I love Rivals. It's the only console game I've ever played this consistently since release. The character designs are almost exclusively peak marvel. (Not sold on some of the 2099 designs, especially Cap, but other than that most Rivals designs are ones I'd consider some of the best versions of those characters ever. Peni, Moon Knight, the Jeff redesign, the Fantastic Four's blue skins, Thor, the new Rune King Thor, etc.) I would go nuts for Rivals sets, and there's so many options to choose from with all the convoy vehicles and some of the more dynamic maps, or stuff like the Vampbuster suit that would make a great Titan mech style set.

Also excited for Cosmic Invasion, I like playing those sorts of games with my friends and I'm glad to see a new marvel one. It'd never get sets but the more content classic designs of the characters are in, the better the chances we get figures, so it's worth mentioning in a more general sense.

As far as the MCU goes, I'm excited for Thunderbolts and think it'll stick the landing, I think F4 looks good, I'm over the moon for the Punisher special and my faith in it's quality is only reinforced by the fact that the scene in Born Again featuring Punisher (Where Bernthal, who's writing the punisher special, rewrote his own lines) was the best scene in the show.

I love Marvel. I love a lot of current projects marvel's working on, even within the MCU. Just because I don't blindly hype myself up for every movie because they announce a shotgun blast of cameos doesn't mean I shouldn't be here.

Edited March 28 by Mandalorianknight

[Scarilian]

1 hour ago, doclord said:

Yeah I thought this was the Marvel lego set thread, not the MCU discussion general.

A majority of the comments mentioning the movies have done so in connection with the impact it would have with Lego as the two are connected - naturally this is a lego board after all.

5 hours ago, The_Fiery_Rooster said:

Honestly, whether the movies are good or not shouldn't matter, at least when it come to Lego stuff. 

• If it generates positive online discussion it can attract the attention of Lego to make a set.
• If the movie is financially succesful then chances are they'll revisit it more often. They tend to do this regardless with Avengers movies, but it provides them with extra incentive if they know it'd sell.

The outcome of the movies and the franchises handling as a whole as such has had an impact on what we have gotten in sets over the years, look at the state of what we are getting in terms of Lego following the self-acknowledged disaster that was Phase 4:

• Ant-Man 3: 1 Constraction figure
• GotG3: 3 minifigure sets
• The Marvels: 1 minifigure set
• D&W: 0 sets
• Cap 4: 1 minifigure set, 1 brick-head set, 1 constraction figure
• Thunderbolts: 0 sets
• Fantastic Four: 1 minifigure set

@thebricksbear@Swordy

Hype over the X-Men, Lego-wise, has been decreased somewhat as we've got more iconic comic versions. Lots of people were buzzing over us getting X-Men figures initially but then the X-Men Mansion and the X-Men figures from the CMF have filled the niche that people were wanting.

We often remark on how the marketing for Endgame, while hiding some spoilers, did damage to the wave of Lego sets due to a lack of reference material or concept art they were allowed to base the sets on. In a similar regard the expectation now is that Doomsday's Lego sets have to deliver on the Thunderbolts and the X-Men due to them not being represented before and being announced this early for the film. Despite this it could easily be that the X-Men are the canon fodder/Asgardians of this film and wiped out in the opening to set the stakes, DC's Crisis on Infinite Earths springs to mind.

Personally just feels like we have a lot of characters that Lego would need to adapt over the course of the next few films and I'm doubting that they are going to deliver if the MCU continues its decline. Infinity War/Endgame was 6/7 years ago and we are still missing a lot of characters or portrayals of characters from those films - which have around a third of the characters we are going to end up seeing in Doomsday/Secret Wars. It'd require several years of legacy sets and repeated movie-focused CMF's to even make a dent.

Edited March 28 by Scarilian

[thebricksbear]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I love Marvel. I love a lot of current projects marvel's working on, even within the MCU. Just because I don't blindly hype myself up for every movie because they announce a shotgun blast of cameos doesn't mean I shouldn't be here.

Your opinion is valid, and I get it. I personally have liked most of the MCU entries so being in a community where the stuff you like is just dragged constantly isn't fun and I doubt I'm alone in that.

 

I think you're right on the money about Rivals. The community is a little too sweaty for me but Marvel knows it struck gold with the game and they'll be printing gold with merch and toys in no time. I'd be shocked if Marvel hadn't met with Lego about it already. Funko has already made announcements and we know they're the fastest to turn around.

The game has a kind of gloomy environment, so I wonder what kinds of opportunities there are for sets? Payloads are a safe bet a la the Overwatch theme. Destructable builds are something that'd fit that lego has done before too. Surely a Peni Parker mech and buildable Jeff, lol.

Edited March 28 by thebricksbear

[wesker]

2 hours ago, Scarilian said:

Hype over the X-Men, Lego-wise, has been decreased somewhat as we've got more iconic comic versions. Lots of people were buzzing over us getting X-Men figures initially but then the X-Men Mansion and the X-Men figures from the CMF have filled the niche that people were wanting.

2024 was a decent start to the X-Men but I feel we're only getting the bare minimum out of it. There's still a number of core team members missing and we still can't get any other villains besides Magneto. Its hard to be excited when the momentum has suddenly grinded to a halt. We have an oversaturation of phoned in Infinity Saga sets but can't even get a single X-Men set this year? Not even a cheap low risk one? The poor reception to both the X-Jet's price tag and the execution of the X-Mansion isn't helping matters either as both seem to have really put a lot of people off altogether.

At this point there's not much left to be hyped about. We can hope Lego throws us a bone when Season 2 of X-Men 97 comes around but that isn't a guarantee. Same goes for the Fox X-Men depending on how big or small their role is in Doomsday.

Edited March 29 by wesker

[poisonbricks]

7 hours ago, wesker said:

2024 was a decent start to the X-Men but I feel we're only getting the bare minimum out of it. There's still a number of core team members missing and we still can't get any other villains besides Magneto. Its hard to be excited when the momentum has suddenly grinded to a halt. We have an oversaturation of phoned in Infinity Saga sets but can't even get a single X-Men set this year? Not even a cheap low risk one? The poor reception to both the X-Jet's price tag and the execution of the X-Mansion isn't helping matters either as both seem to have really put a lot of people off altogether.

At this point there's not much left to be hyped about. We can hope Lego throws us a bone when Season 2 of X-Men 97 comes around but that isn't a guarantee. Same goes for the Fox X-Men depending on how big or small their role is in Doomsday.

I'm genuinely amazed that we didn't get a Sentinel set this summer, it feels like such an obvious slam dunk.

If my memory isn't totally deceiving me, in one of the X-Mansion designer interviews, they said that they know that people will want multiple, and basically just implied that we should buy multiples of the actual mansion 😭 wild

It's not that they wouldn't sell well, so I'm not sure why the aversion. Even a set filled with an almost identical Sentinel and a couple of X-Mansion reuse figs would probably do fantastically. Making any of those exclusives more accessible seems to me like a selling point in and of itself 

[JeanGreyForever]

With the X-Men, I would say most of us are cautious because we've seen the state of the MCU and the lackluster sets we've been getting for the last few years. For characters who are probably just going to be cameos, I don't see the point in getting my hopes up that we'll get so and so FoX-Men characters as minifigures when they probably won't even have major roles in the movie. And as pointed out, there's so many minifigs from Endgame we still haven't gotten years later (despite some sets getting remade over and over), so is it really unjustified to expect that we'll be missing loads of Doomsday minifigures?

And the X-Mansion and X-Men sets in general have gotten pretty mixed reception. Cyclops was messed up twice with no leg printing/dual molded legs or the worst leg printing I've ever seen. I don't think this is just a Marvel thing. I think it's a Disney thing because in the Disney thread, characters like Nani and David have the same lack of quality applied to their legs with the abysmal printing. But it's no secret that characters like Professor X, Cyclops, Rogue, and Magneto were badly depicted as minifigures and short of another CMF series, it's unlikely they'll be upgraded anytime soon.

That's not even getting into the various X-Men characters from '97 we're still missing like Jubilee, Nightcrawler, Morph, Sunspot, Forge, Cable, Mr. Sinister, Bastion, the Goblin Queen, or any other classic X-Men villain like Mystique, Sabretooth, and Juggernaut.

10 hours ago, doclord said:

Yeah I thought this was the Marvel lego set thread, not the MCU discussion general.

Most of the Marvel Lego sets are based on the MCU so hence the emphasis on discussing the MCU here. Several of us would prefer more sets based on the comics or other forms of media instead, like the references some have made to Marvel Rivals.

[BrickBob Studpants]

Being cautious with expectations is a good approach, but I still think it‘s too pessimistic to expect an Endgame-type situation  Endgame was unique in that nothing about the plot was officially advertised beforehand, not even in the trailer, and that half the cast was dead, hence the limited roster they had to work with. Yeah, of course everyone knew the snapped characters would be brought back eventually, but still.

I‘m not saying there won‘t be a lot of secrecy around the plot, because there absolutely will be. Of course there’ll be a ton of spoilery key scenes TLG won‘t be able to touch before follow-up sets, but I‘m convinced toy manufacturers will be given a lot more material to work with from the get-go this time  

[CloneCommando99]

Speaking of Endgame time travel suits… we’re still yet to get one with the movie accurate helmet.

[DaredevilFan]

With all these characters and more to be revealed I hope LEGO go all out with the sets. I’d love to see around 8 or more sets, so we can get as many characters as possible. I’d much prefer a full wave like this than more infinity saga stuff

also with all the June leaks and reveals we should hopefully see the F4 set soon 🤞🏻 

[THELEGOBATMAN]

Frankly, I just hope we get a smaller set with key Thunderbolts members, since I'd still love a set for that movie. Also Loki, hopefully a variant similiar to the Season 2 ending one.

As for Doomsday, I really have no interest in it whatsoever. As expected, they've announced a bunch of nostalgia cameos, and people are already drooling at just a thought of them.

[Mandalorianknight]

On 3/28/2025 at 5:44 PM, thebricksbear said:

I think you're right on the money about Rivals. The community is a little too sweaty for me but Marvel knows it struck gold with the game and they'll be printing gold with merch and toys in no time. I'd be shocked if Marvel hadn't met with Lego about it already. Funko has already made announcements and we know they're the fastest to turn around.

The game has a kind of gloomy environment, so I wonder what kinds of opportunities there are for sets? Payloads are a safe bet a la the Overwatch theme. Destructable builds are something that'd fit that lego has done before too. Surely a Peni Parker mech and buildable Jeff, lol.

Oh a buildable Jeff is definitely being fast-tracked as we speak. I hope they're getting some system sets out there too.

There's a billion sets they could make- every map aside from New York and Hydra Base is pretty colorful. I have a list somewhere, but off the top of my head-

Convoy sets (convoy vehicle and associated terrain): Fantasticar, Spider-Crawler, and Thor's Chariot would all work great. The Bast Statue and Knull's essense would probably have to be smaller sets more about the figs, but I think Knull's essence could work especially if they incorporated the victory animation where Venom bursts out of it.

There are also a number of characters who could hold battle pack builds or side builds in larger sets: Punisher's Turret, Peni's mech (normal sized), Monster Hulk, Rocket's inventions, etc

Finally there's a number of vehicles shown in maps that could be used- The Quinjet could make a Hydra Base set work a lot better, and on the Spider-Islands map there's a Peni mech that's almost the exact size of a $15 mech set compared to the character model of it.

And of course a buildable Jeff.

On 3/29/2025 at 9:24 PM, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Frankly, I just hope we get a smaller set with key Thunderbolts members, since I'd still love a set for that movie. Also Loki, hopefully a variant similiar to the Season 2 ending one.

As for Doomsday, I really have no interest in it whatsoever. As expected, they've announced a bunch of nostalgia cameos, and people are already drooling at just a thought of them.

I'll second the Thunderbolts train. Lego, you give me a $20 battle pack with John Walker, Yelena Belova, Ghost, and Bucky, and I'll army build it and put them on a grey baseplate as if it's massable figures. That's what you want, right Lego?

Yeah, exactly. The second we got RDDoom my optimism from the Russos being hired plummeted.

[BrickBob Studpants]

While I still would‘ve preferred a Thunderbolts* set, most of the team showing up in Doomsday gives me hope they might appear in a set  

The FoX-Men will probably only have smaller roles, but still, the announcement tells me they‘ll be more than mere cameos. Cameos are blink-and-you’ll-miss-it type easter eggs, not publicly advertised casting announcements  

[JeanGreyForever]

10 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

While I still would‘ve preferred a Thunderbolts* set, most of the team showing up in Doomsday gives me hope they might appear in a set  

The FoX-Men will probably only have smaller roles, but still, the announcement tells me they‘ll be more than mere cameos. Cameos are blink-and-you’ll-miss-it type easter eggs, not publicly advertised casting announcements  

Would Patrick Stewart's role in MoM be considered a cameo or small role? I feel the length of the roles of the Illuminati in that movie is more or less what we could expect from the FoX-Men in Doomsday. Another comparison would be the original FoX-Men cast in DOFP. Most of them, outside of Hugh Jackman, Patrick Stewart, and Ian McKellen, didn't have much screentime there either. Either they were just around to get killed off or they only popped up in the final scene.

[Buckethead]

1 hour ago, JeanGreyForever said:

Would Patrick Stewart's role in MoM be considered a cameo or small role? I feel the length of the roles of the Illuminati in that movie is more or less what we could expect from the FoX-Men in Doomsday. Another comparison would be the original FoX-Men cast in DOFP. Most of them, outside of Hugh Jackman, Patrick Stewart, and Ian McKellen, didn't have much screentime there either. Either they were just around to get killed off or they only popped up in the final scene.

If it's anything like the Secret Wars comic, the X-Men could prove to have a larger role than expected (Instead of Earth-1610, we get Earth-10005). This doesn't mean we'll get everybody in Lego (obviously), but everything has been building up to Doomsday & Secret Wars, so I expect these heroes to have larger roles than just cameos and end-credit scenes. The rumor mill surrounding films like Doctor Strange MoM and Deadpool & Wolverine were extreme, but if any film is to have that level of craziness, it probably should be Avengers.

Spider-Man and Avengers (via Infinity Saga) make up most of Lego Marvel, but with the state of the Lego Marvel theme lately, how many sets do you all think we'd get for Doomsday? Most Avengers films get 4-6+, but now I don't know. Maybe we'll get some retroactive sets in 2032.  

[brickbride]

2 hours ago, Buckethead said:

Spider-Man and Avengers (via Infinity Saga) make up most of Lego Marvel, but with the state of the Lego Marvel theme lately, how many sets do you all think we'd get for Doomsday? Most Avengers films get 4-6+, but now I don't know. Maybe we'll get some retroactive sets in 2032.  

I think that heavily depends on the success of the next few movies. Brave New World bombed but if FF and Thunderbolts turn out to be smash hits, four to six sets could easily be in the cards. (Though FF might be released a little too late for LEGO to change much based on it, so it might depend more heavily on Thunderbolts.) Otherwise they might play it safe with no more than three at first since if the movie's a success they can always revisit it tlater.

[Mandalorianknight]

On 3/31/2025 at 8:27 AM, BrickBob Studpants said:

While I still would‘ve preferred a Thunderbolts* set, most of the team showing up in Doomsday gives me hope they might appear in a set  

The FoX-Men will probably only have smaller roles, but still, the announcement tells me they‘ll be more than mere cameos. Cameos are blink-and-you’ll-miss-it type easter eggs, not publicly advertised casting announcements  

I hope so- lego clearly doesn't have much faith in them, but while I don't think the movie doing well would get us a new set of them, maybe they can be added to the doomsday sets- a year feels like enough time to swap around some figures.

I dunno- there are so many characters announced that a lot of them HAVE to have pretty small roles. I think Marvel knows they need more than RDdoom to get the doomsday hype going, and since a lot of cameos and surprise characters recently have been open secrets in these movies (or even directly shown in a trailer like Patrick Stewart, IIRC), I think publicly announcing X-men "cameos" is the next evolution (or de-evolution). There's a whole semantic game about what a cameo is, so I guess when I say I think they'll be a cameo I mean I think they'll get an illuminati in Dr strange level amount of screen time wherein Doom shows up and kills them all and we either forget it's the DP&W universe or DP&W are saved by Loki and sent to MCU616.

15 hours ago, JeanGreyForever said:

Would Patrick Stewart's role in MoM be considered a cameo or small role? I feel the length of the roles of the Illuminati in that movie is more or less what we could expect from the FoX-Men in Doomsday. Another comparison would be the original FoX-Men cast in DOFP. Most of them, outside of Hugh Jackman, Patrick Stewart, and Ian McKellen, didn't have much screentime there either. Either they were just around to get killed off or they only popped up in the final scene.

The whole "what is a cameo" discourse has gotten pretty severe ever since people started saying Gambit/Laura/etc were cameos in DP&W (Absolutely not, they were supporting roles), but I'd argue Patrick Stewart is a cameo in MoM. Very little screen time, big name, doesn't really do anything in the movie.

12 hours ago, brickbride said:

I think that heavily depends on the success of the next few movies. Brave New World bombed but if FF and Thunderbolts turn out to be smash hits, four to six sets could easily be in the cards. (Though FF might be released a little too late for LEGO to change much based on it, so it might depend more heavily on Thunderbolts.) Otherwise they might play it safe with no more than three at first since if the movie's a success they can always revisit it tlater.

Even Thunderbolts may be too late- from everything we've heard the standard development cycle is a year and a half for a set, and Thunderbolts is only about a year away from Doomsday. But you bring up a very interesting point:

Right now, for both the lego sets and the movie itself, Doomsday is in a very unique spot. What Marvel and Lego both know is that most of the new phase 4 and 5 characters haven't been very popular. So they have three choices:

1. Barrel ahead with Samcap leading She-Hulk, White Vision, Shang-Chi, and the Young Avengers into battle (I actually liked Shang Chi a fair bit and love Kate's Hawkeye, but they fell victim to marvel setting up a billion threads and then forgetting about them) and just hope people show up for the avengers group anyway/ hope the doomsday branding sells sets with figs that have shelfwarmed before.

2. Cross their fingers that the course-correct around the time of daredevil (Which, by the way, is super jarring- you can totally tell what's pre and post rebrand, as well as the fact that Jon Bernthal rewrote all his lines, but on the bright side Disney seems to know this and is letting him write the Punisher special) is going to lead to Thunderbolts and F4 being hits, and focus on them/ hope Thunderbolts and F4 are set sellers.

3. Cameofest any characters the audience still has goodwill towards and take the short term cash grab over setting up any long-term characters/ put the now announced and nonspoiler X-men in the sets to drive sales.

Marvel seems to be doing a mix of the three (I put RDdoom in the third category), and it's too early to call for lego, but IMO two is the best long term bet. You need a new crop of characters people care about, so better to risk it on Thunderbolts and F4 than go with what you know doesn't work or get one-to-two more cameofests out at the expense of the franchise's future.