droobles Posted February 25 Posted February 25 (edited) On 2/22/2025 at 2:30 AM, Black Falcon said: Yeah, that is probably the main issue I see with an UCS-Style Quidditch Pitch. People would expect to get 4 Teams from such a Set, but then again you would also need some spectators to fill the stand so it doesn´t look empty - and there is no way they will include that many minifigures IMO. I have been thinking about this. I still think UCS-Quidditch Pitch is feasible. The D2C Hogwarts Express had 20 minifigures. Avengers Tower had 32 minifigures. I think there is a possibility of a $500 Quidditch Pitch having mid-20s number of minifigures. Option 1: Gryffindor vs. Slytherin, mostly based on Chamber of Secrets 1 - 7: Gryffindor team 8 - 14: Slytherin team (Marcus, Draco, + 5 more) 15: Madam Hooch 16: Lee Jordan 17: McGonagall 18: Colin Creevey 19+: More characters to fill out the stands Option 2: Cover teams for all 4 houses 1 - 7: Gryffindor Team 8: Flint 9: Draco 10: Cho 11: Cedric 12 - 17: 6 Generic student players, with spare torsos/capes for each house. Extra parts could be stored in a locker room under the bleachers. (Think like the Queer Eye or Table Football sets) 18: Madam Hooch 19: Lee Jordan 20+: More characters to fill out the stands Other optional characters could be: Characters prominent in movie Quidditch scenes: Hooch, Ron, Hermione, Lee Jordan, McGonagall, Snape, Quirrell, Hagrid, Lockhart, Colin Creevey, Lucius, Dementors, Dumbledore, Ginny, Lavender, Cormac Generic students: Fans with sweater from each house (these could aid in a 21337 Table-football-like system to design extra players and fans), Roger Davies as another Ravenclaw, Zacharias Smith as another Hufflepuff Edited February 25 by droobles Quote
Black Falcon Posted February 25 Posted February 25 18 hours ago, JeanGreyForever said: I think it could still go either way. I remember even with Gringotts, it took so long for that set to be officially confirmed that many people thought Lego had given up on expanding the D2C Diagon Alley set. And there was still speculation when we knew the set would be made if it would tie-in or not since many thought it had been too many years since the last set. I do know that I probably won't be interested in a playline version that doesn't connect to the D2C set. I think Lego's best bet would be to start off with a D2C version of Knockturn Alley and then release a playline version later on like they did with WWW. I can see Gringotts getting a playline version in a few years as well. Exactly this. Also this year would be the best time, because the Diagon Alley is still on the shelves if someone really needs to buy it still. 11 hours ago, droobles said: I have been thinking about this. I still think UCS-Quidditch Pitch is feasible. The D2C Hogwarts Express had 20 minifigures. Avengers Tower had 32 minifigures. I think there is a possibility of a $500 Quidditch Pitch having mid-20s number of minifigures. The question is though, if random minifigures would make much sense to fill the teams, because it would basically be the heads and hair only they are saving on, they would still have to make different torsos (though 7 of the same kind definitely saves budget) But I would expect them to represent the teams from the films and not random minifigures. Two teams in a UCS set would still not be what people are expecting from it I think. But maybe Lego surprises us and they pull up a set with many minifigures because they probably don´t need that many new prints for minifigures. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted February 25 Posted February 25 11 hours ago, droobles said: I think there is a possibility of a $500 Quidditch Pitch having mid-20s number of minifigures. A larger Quidditch set is fairly realistic, but who‘d drop $500 on such a set?! A Quidditch Pitch set being one of the two most expensive HP sets just sounds wrong to me And I‘m shuddering just thinking about how repetitive the building process would be Quote
JeanGreyForever Posted February 25 Posted February 25 Quidditch is very popular though and one of the most recognizable elements of Harry Potter. Hogwarts Legacy got a lot of flack for not including it, but then there was a Quidditch game released right after. And I think the Hogwarts Legacy sequel has confirmed they will include Quidditch. I don't think a Quidditch Pitch D2C would be any less recognizable than the Hogwarts Train we did get. And while that sold badly, that was more because people didn't like the scale or lack of motorized engine. 17 hours ago, droobles said: I have been thinking about this. I still think UCS-Quidditch Pitch is feasible. The D2C Hogwarts Express had 20 minifigures. Avengers Tower had 32 minifigures. I think there is a possibility of a $500 Quidditch Pitch having mid-20s number of minifigures. Option 1: Gryffindor vs. Slytherin, mostly based on Chamber of Secrets 1 - 7: Gryffindor team 8 - 14: Slytherin team (Marcus, Draco, + 5 more) 15: Madam Hooch 16: Lee Jordan 17: McGonagall 18: Colin Creevey 19+: More characters to fill out the stands Option 2: Cover teams for all 4 houses 1 - 7: Gryffindor Team 8: Flint 9: Draco 10: Cho 11: Cedric 12 - 17: 6 Generic student players, with spare torsos/capes for each house. Extra parts could be stored in a locker room under the bleachers. (Think like the Queer Eye or Table Football sets) 18: Madam Hooch 19: Lee Jordan 20+: More characters to fill out the stands I think Option 1 makes the most sense. Most fans will only care about Gryffindor vs Slytherin and it'll be easy to reuse 7 torsos for Gryffindor and 7 for Slytherin. If Diagon Alley could include what was then a rare Hufflepuff torso and Ravenclaw torso, then including the more widely distributed Gryffindor and Slytherin torsos in bulk here shouldn't be an issue. And considering how many Hermiones, Rons, and Snapes we have in all the sets, it wouldn't be implausible to include them as well to include a play feature of Hermione setting Snape's robes on fire in the stands. Quote
Gorilla94 Posted February 26 Posted February 26 8 hours ago, JeanGreyForever said: Quidditch is very popular though and one of the most recognizable elements of Harry Potter. Hogwarts Legacy got a lot of flack for not including it, but then there was a Quidditch game released right after. And I think the Hogwarts Legacy sequel has confirmed they will include Quidditch. I am less working with a price per piece comparison and more with price per emotion/memory, when it comes to Lego. PS was cute with Harry winning his first game and Snape getting grilled. CoS is quite memorable with Harry nearly dying. In PoA he gets attacked by the Dementors and his broom destroyed. I am not sure in which book Ron becomes a team member. I can see a 200€ set without any issue... 500€ is very much for that compared to the amount of story happening in other sets much cheaper sets. It wouldbe interesting to me, if the set would then be meant to be a part of the most detailed Hogwarts ever. Personally I just want 1 version of each character in my Display and I already put all the Gryffindor and Slytherin players in School robes. On my display there will be a game Ravenclaw vs. Hufflepuff filled with cool looking, but generic players. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted February 26 Posted February 26 I’m not disputing that Quidditch is an iconic and popular aspect of HP, but putting it on the same level as Hogwarts Castle, the Hogwarts Express, and Diagon Alley is a bit much As @Gorilla94 says, a $200 set can be justified, but anything above that is stretching it. Just by its nature as a ball sport, it makes a lot more sense to have playsets rather than a big display model. Quote
brickbride Posted February 26 Posted February 26 (edited) Rule of thumb: if you have to go into this much detail justifying the possible minifig selection, then no, the location itself isn't iconic enough. Would people have bought the Avengers Tower, or for that matter Diagon Alley, even without the figs? Sure, because of the fun building experience and how the finished product looks on your shelf. But stacking up four identical (apart from the colours) towers isn't that much fun and apart from that you basically have grass and some goal hoops. I'm not ruling out a smaller, Burrow-size D2C. But EUR 400-500? That's a lot of Quidditch torsos and capes you could buy instead. Edited February 26 by brickbride Quote
Bugbot20082 Posted February 26 Posted February 26 (edited) Couple of things i could see being a UCS set, at least ones I would be happy to see in production: Gryffindor Tower/ Common Room. The film set done 1:1 like the Friends apartment’s, every seat, table, fireplace, window etc in its place. includes predictable figs such as the trio and NHN, plus a few figures we don’t have or are underrepresented such as Y4/5 Seamus Finnigan , long legs Lee Jordan, Lavender Brown in robes etc Or A UCS Battle of Hoth style Hogsmeade Village, including the clock building from the theme park, Hogs Head, Zonko’s, the music shop, a Honeydukes twice the size of the first one etc. A highland cow, sleigh, red Butterbeer cart, multiple benches, multiple lampposts. Sadly it makes the Hogsmeade Advent Calendar redundant but there could be also lots of other variants for others such as Neville, new Hagrid coat, Crabbe etc or Astronomy Courtyard: basically the entire long Gallery, Bell Towers, Training Grounds Tower, Astronomy Tower all together in one in system scale in the same scale and detail and compatible with the new 2025 ‘most detailed’ castle system. Interior includes the library, Room of Requirement from HBP, Separate Slughorn & Snape office, boys bathroom, the vanishing cabinet, scenes from different movies in different rooms perhaps. Edited February 26 by Bugbot20082 Quote
brickbride Posted February 27 Posted February 27 (edited) Honestly, I cannot see either Gryffindor Tower or the Astronomy Courtyard. I'm assuming we'll get the latter eventually in the "most detailed" castle system, so that'd be a waste of a D2C. As for Gryffindor Tower, it's not that iconic or interesting. It's not like the Friends apartments where like 90% of the show's action takes place! And frankly it's even less interesting than all the other Common Rooms would be, if only because everyone who's only marginally into HP would have a ton of Harrys, Rons, and Hermiones already. Hogsmeade, again, could be viable. If they're smart they'll do it in the style of Diagon Alley so you can add onto your Diagon Alleys if you want to. Edited February 27 by brickbride Quote
Gorilla94 Posted February 27 Posted February 27 What would interest me is how the whole thing is meant to be put together. Will it be like an u-form with the backside open? Will there be several rows of sets bihind each with an underground section? Quote
Bugbot20082 Posted March 1 Posted March 1 (edited) On 2/27/2025 at 4:12 PM, Gorilla94 said: What would interest me is how the whole thing is meant to be put together. Will it be like an u-form with the backside open? Will there be several rows of sets bihind each with an underground section? The silhouette in the instructions suggests that only the parts of the castle from the UCS set will be included, going by the usual 3 year plan we could expect 3 big sections: Great Hall, Staircase Tower, Viaduct Entrance Building. That would indicate the layout you suggested. That being said the Owlery and flying lesson building and upcoming greenhouse sets were not in the preview so we have no way of knowing for sure what else could be included. Edited March 1 by Bugbot20082 Quote
brickbride Posted March 1 Posted March 1 No way are they going to finish this things within three years (where we're already in year two) if each year's biggest set is a single location and we've spent slots on things that aren't even part of the castle proper like the Boathouse and Owlery. Either the cycle will be longer or this is going to end up a very incomplete castle. Quote
Black Falcon Posted March 1 Posted March 1 9 hours ago, brickbride said: No way are they going to finish this things within three years (where we're already in year two) if each year's biggest set is a single location and we've spent slots on things that aren't even part of the castle proper like the Boathouse and Owlery. Either the cycle will be longer or this is going to end up a very incomplete castle. At which point would you consider the castle complete? I mean we never really expected to get the full castle, for that we would probably need at least 5 years - so I would expect about the castle like they did in 71043. Quote
Micmac Posted March 2 Posted March 2 5 hours ago, Black Falcon said: At which point would you consider the castle complete? I mean we never really expected to get the full castle, for that we would probably need at least 5 years - so I would expect about the castle like they did in 71043. We kind of know what to expect from the castle with so many versions made at this stage, the Great Hall, Main Tower, Viaduct Entrance, Astronomy Tower, the Clock Tower and the courtyard where they learn to fly with the whomping willow in the second film. The expansion of these areas seems to be the selling point of the most detailed version. We get the Main Tower this year and it will probably have the section to the right of it with the smaller tower and two or three pull out rooms. Then the Viaduct entrance will come with the bridge and that looks like a big enough set too with an underground pull out room or two. They may release it in spring next year but could be another summer release. The Astronomy tower could come with some side builds or some of its courtyard, the Clock tower could come with its courtyard and maybe the wooden bridge and we got the Flying lessons section this year. The only part that people think is missing is the Bell Tower and that could have the wrap around effect that the flying lesson has to add that whole side expansion to the Viaduct entrance. What i'm not sure about is will they make each of those areas a big expensive set or simplify certain parts of the castle to have some cheaper sets. If all the new sections get a rock area underneath that has a pull out room in it then they are big sets. So I can kind of see where it could go but also see that they might just give us what's in the picture they released and give us set 71043 as the detailed castle with all the small build sets on the side like the owlery and greenhouse. So 5 years if they are going to go big, 3 if they are gonna bail on this design like they did with the others. Quote
brickbride Posted March 2 Posted March 2 (edited) 15 hours ago, Black Falcon said: At which point would you consider the castle complete? I mean we never really expected to get the full castle, for that we would probably need at least 5 years - so I would expect about the castle like they did in 71043. "Complete" as in we get the iconic silhouette on the outside and all the most important parts (like the Chamber of Secrets) on the inside. Obviously I don't expect them to cover every single classroom or Common Room (though they seem determined to do the latter anyway). 9 hours ago, Micmac said: We kind of know what to expect from the castle with so many versions made at this stage, the Great Hall, Main Tower, Viaduct Entrance, Astronomy Tower, the Clock Tower and the courtyard where they learn to fly with the whomping willow in the second film. (...) The only part that people think is missing is the Bell Tower and that could have the wrap around effect that the flying lesson has to add that whole side expansion to the Viaduct entrance. That's several big sets with only two of them done so far (counting the Main Tower) and likely only one more to come if we're going by a three-year schedule. And most of those aren't even particularly relevant to the plot in comparison to others like the Hospital Wing, Forbidden Corridor, Room of Requirement, or Chamber of Secrets, or fun builds with fun characters like Trelawney's class or the various DADA classes. So I'd expect a decent chunk of new sets to either be interiors-only or smaller locations. I really cannot see how they'd make all of that work with only one more year given that so far we've only had 2024 Boathouse, Owlery (both fairly unnecessary and irrelevant locations except to complete the silhouette), Potions class (indoors-only), Great Hall 2025 Duelling Club, Charms class (both indoors-only), Flying lesson, Herbology class (yet another location that's not part of the castle proper), Main Tower. Going by what we've had so far, in 2026 we'd likely get about two small-ish "exterior" sets, a big one, and at least one or two indoors-only locations (most likely classrooms but might be something else such as Myrtle's bathroom). That's not going to cover all of the above that's still missing! Edited March 2 by brickbride Quote
Gorilla94 Posted March 2 Posted March 2 Is the wooden bridge the suspension bridge? I could see them making the whole complex around the south courtyard a building with space for 2 rooms as part of the grand staircase tower set... and then making the clock tower a 80€ Set like the flying lesson... then they could make the astronomy tower with viaduct the last great expansion. Or they do 4 years and make astronomy tower and viaduct separate sets.... seems we will have to moc a lot. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted March 2 Posted March 2 It‘s nearly impossible to cram everything into this iteration of Hogwarts if they stick with the 3-year release schedules, but who says they will? There‘s nothing stopping them from increasing it to 4 or 5 years. Seems more sustainable to me than starting yet another iteration in 2027 already. (Also, kinda hard to find a good marketing angle with that one since they already called the current one „the most detailed version“ ) TLG like to work in 3-year schedules in general, but that‘s not set in stone. Just look at Ninjago! Quote
brickbride Posted March 2 Posted March 2 36 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said: (Also, kinda hard to find a good marketing angle with that one since they already called the current one „the most detailed version“ ) Just putting it here, the next version will officially be the "most expensive Hogwarts ever" and will start with a EUR 400 Great Hall. ;-) Quote
Gorilla94 Posted March 2 Posted March 2 42 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said: (Also, kinda hard to find a good marketing angle with that one since they already called the current one „the most detailed version“ ) Most complete version? Quote
Black Falcon Posted March 2 Posted March 2 10 hours ago, Micmac said: We kind of know what to expect from the castle with so many versions made at this stage, the Great Hall, Main Tower, Viaduct Entrance, Astronomy Tower, the Clock Tower and the courtyard where they learn to fly with the whomping willow in the second film. The expansion of these areas seems to be the selling point of the most detailed version. We get the Main Tower this year and it will probably have the section to the right of it with the smaller tower and two or three pull out rooms. Then the Viaduct entrance will come with the bridge and that looks like a big enough set too with an underground pull out room or two. They may release it in spring next year but could be another summer release. The Astronomy tower could come with some side builds or some of its courtyard, the Clock tower could come with its courtyard and maybe the wooden bridge and we got the Flying lessons section this year. The only part that people think is missing is the Bell Tower and that could have the wrap around effect that the flying lesson has to add that whole side expansion to the Viaduct entrance. What i'm not sure about is will they make each of those areas a big expensive set or simplify certain parts of the castle to have some cheaper sets. If all the new sections get a rock area underneath that has a pull out room in it then they are big sets. So I can kind of see where it could go but also see that they might just give us what's in the picture they released and give us set 71043 as the detailed castle with all the small build sets on the side like the owlery and greenhouse. So 5 years if they are going to go big, 3 if they are gonna bail on this design like they did with the others. I see no way how they could fit all of this in 3 years, and don´t think they will include all the Towers you mention either - but we will see. 10 hours ago, brickbride said: "Complete" as in we get the iconic silhouette on the outside and all the most important parts (like the Chamber of Secrets) on the inside. Obviously I don't expect them to cover every single classroom or Common Room (though they seem determined to do the latter anyway). Honestly, I didn´t even consider, what rooms would count towards an complete castle, and thought more about the look of the building itself. Very curious to see the final model once all modules are out. Quote
Gorilla94 Posted March 2 Posted March 2 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Black Falcon said: Honestly, I didn´t even consider, what rooms would count towards an complete castle, and thought more about the look of the building itself. Very curious to see the final model once all modules are out. I think what should be included in a perfect model: - classrooms we see in the movies + flying lesson and greenhouses - 4 common rooms - great hall - chamber of secrets - Tasks from philosophers stone or at least Fluffy and the mirror - at least one large bathroom with Myrthe, the troll, and the bathing tub with goldenen egg and meremaid window. Better seperated. - grand staircase - hospital wing - library - dumbledore's Office - room of requirements - hagrids hut... (- i know it is a fanboy fantasy, but I'd love to also see a little history class room with sleeping students and the ghost professor) When it comes to the exterior I think the folowing is enough: - great hall - Boat house - Main tower - Clock tower - Astronomy Tower - Viaduct - Womping willow - enough buildings to fit the rooms Edited March 2 by Gorilla94 Quote
Koomazaz Posted March 2 Posted March 2 7 hours ago, Gorilla94 said: I think what should be included in a perfect model: - classrooms we see in the movies + flying lesson and greenhouses - 4 common rooms - great hall - chamber of secrets - Tasks from philosophers stone or at least Fluffy and the mirror - at least one large bathroom with Myrthe, the troll, and the bathing tub with goldenen egg and meremaid window. Better seperated. - grand staircase - hospital wing - library - dumbledore's Office - room of requirements - hagrids hut... (- i know it is a fanboy fantasy, but I'd love to also see a little history class room with sleeping students and the ghost professor) When it comes to the exterior I think the folowing is enough: - great hall - Boat house - Main tower - Clock tower - Astronomy Tower - Viaduct - Womping willow - enough buildings to fit the rooms I am in nearly 100% agreement with this... except I also want the bell towers. They are part of that iconic silhouette, and can be seen when approaching Hogwarts by boat. Quote
Virginia_Bricks Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Any wishlist that includes empty spaces for the extra interior sets is just dreaming. Lego won't do empty interiors as every set needs to stand on its own Quote
Micmac Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Got the new Knight bus today and the purples are all over the shop, the same elements coming in two different purple variations in the same set was a bit of a shock. The 1x1 2x1 and 4x1 bricks came in two purple colours, the 10x1 bricks were all a lighter version of purple which is the wrong colour and this variation was in the plates, tiles and modified bricks too. The windows were all right and the wheel rims were good too. I know this can be regional depending on where your set was manufactured but just a warning it looks awful with the two colours. I'm in Australia, interested to know if anyone else has had the same issue. Quote
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