[RUMOUR] LEGO Icons 10365 Black Pearl coming in 2025 - UPDATE: Price and Release Date

[Quotenotto]

9 hours ago, cehnot said:

Are those new Black 2x2 thick mast bottoms? I do not know if the part already exists, but this would greatly improve the structure of pirate ship masts since they only have 32 stud long axles. My custom ship would be better if it had 40-44 inch axles. But, I wonder if these new parts would benefit all ship builders. 

Yes, those mast pieces seem to be new, the holes don’t match up with those old ones: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=48005&idColor=2#T=C&C=2

But i can’t tell from the pictures if they have an open backside like the other mast pieces 🤔 so it could be that the masts look worse on the view from the other side.

I am also a bit worried how the lower sails are attached to the rigging, those rubber pieces seem terrible for that purpose.

[iragm]

13 hours ago, F1stzz said:

Some may find [exposed studs] cute, I personally don't believe it belongs in such an expensive display (!) set.

Lego considers exposed studs part of their brand.  While we may not like it (similar to the use of different colors on non-exposed areas to make building easier), it's hard to imagine that a multi-billion dollar company hasn't A/B tested this kind of thing extensively and found it more profitable to leave some studs exposed.

It also allows posing minifigures climbing up walls or wherever.

Fortunately it's nearly always in a way that swapping out a few plates for tiles fixes it so it's hard for me to be too mad about it.

[thewatchman]

1 hour ago, iragm said:

Lego considers exposed studs part of their brand.  While we may not like it (similar to the use of different colors on non-exposed areas to make building easier), it's hard to imagine that a multi-billion dollar company hasn't A/B tested this kind of thing extensively and found it more profitable to leave some studs exposed.

It also allows posing minifigures climbing up walls or wherever.

Fortunately it's nearly always in a way that swapping out a few plates for tiles fixes it so it's hard for me to be too mad about it.

Fully exposed studs up plates at the top of sails is unacceptable at that price point

[Quotenotto]

26 minutes ago, thewatchman said:

Fully exposed studs up plates at the top of sails is unacceptable at that price point

Well, there is this fight scene in the third movie on top of a yardarm. That was on the dutchman if I remember it correctly, but maybe the dutchman is already designed and has that method as a feature for that scene and they put the same style yardarms on the Pearl for concistency.

[Lyichir]

12 hours ago, cehnot said:

Are those new Black 2x2 thick mast bottoms? I do not know if the part already exists, but this would greatly improve the structure of pirate ship masts since they only have 32 stud long axles. My custom ship would be better if it had 40-44 inch axles. But, I wonder if these new parts would benefit all ship builders. 

Is it possibly this piece? A pair of them forms a long 2x2 cylinder. https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=1749#T=C

[Elephant Knight]

10 minutes ago, Lyichir said:

Is it possibly this piece? A pair of them forms a long 2x2 cylinder. https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=1749#T=C

That would be my guess as well.

Eknight

[thewatchman]

1 hour ago, Quotenotto said:

Well, there is this fight scene in the third movie on top of a yardarm. That was on the dutchman if I remember it correctly, but maybe the dutchman is already designed and has that method as a feature for that scene and they put the same style yardarms on the Pearl for concistency.

Actually a very good point.

[Quotenotto]

2 hours ago, Elephant Knight said:

That would be my guess as well.

Eknight

2 hours ago, Lyichir said:

Is it possibly this piece? A pair of them forms a long 2x2 cylinder. https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=1749#T=C

Oh, I wasn’t aware of that piece, thanks! I‘m going to order some to see how they can be integrated in ships. But it could be tricky to integrate them as stable masts, I‘m curious how TLG connected them to the upper mast sections. 

[_R_R_]

4 hours ago, Quotenotto said:

Well, there is this fight scene in the third movie on top of a yardarm. That was on the dutchman if I remember it correctly, but maybe the dutchman is already designed and has that method as a feature for that scene and they put the same style yardarms on the Pearl for concistency.

Exactly this, until a Dutchman comes out or in case one isn't made, I plan to have Jack and Davy Jones fighting on the yardarm, the studs are perfect for that.

[Elysiumfountain]

I have the original Black Pearl from 2011 and I have to say, this new version is awesome! I love the figurehead, even though the "aged copper" look reminds me of the Statue of Liberty. And the bird it's holding is a different color for some reason. Of course that's an incredible nitpick, but I'm looking forward to the official pictures. 

[Trader Brick]

3 hours ago, Elysiumfountain said:

I have the original Black Pearl from 2011 and I have to say, this new version is awesome! I love the figurehead, even though the "aged copper" look reminds me of the Statue of Liberty. And the bird it's holding is a different color for some reason. Of course that's an incredible nitpick, but I'm looking forward to the official pictures. 

I have the same thoughts, the bird being a different color is just really distracting. I didn't realize the figurehead for the Pearl was made of copper until now. It's a cool detail, but the 2011 figurehead looks less obtrusive and more visually accurate in black, even if it's technically inaccurate. Hopefully they can find a pared down shade to represent it the way it appears in the films, since the filmmakers went through the trouble of designing a figurehead that would look oxidized without clashing with the Pearl's color palette.

[Quotenotto]

10 hours ago, Trader Brick said:

I have the same thoughts, the bird being a different color is just really distracting. I didn't realize the figurehead for the Pearl was made of copper until now. It's a cool detail, but the 2011 figurehead looks less obtrusive and more visually accurate in black, even if it's technically inaccurate. Hopefully they can find a pared down shade to represent it the way it appears in the films, since the filmmakers went through the trouble of designing a figurehead that would look oxidized without clashing with the Pearl's color palette.

I don’t think it is made of copper, on close up shots you can see the structure of cracked wood. But it might be painted in a copper based colour, wich then oxidized over time. A lot of other models use a similar colour, TLGs sandgreen seems a bit to saturated compared with pictures, but I think it is the best match. Overall it would be really difficult to depict the weathered look of the pearl with legos colour palette, but the black colour overall fits the ships theme. I am curouis however how TLG might depict the Dutchman, it seems really difficult to define a fitting basecolour. Mocs and other brick models use all kinds of different colours, but I haven‘t seen one yet that depicts the ship accurately.

[thewatchman]

So hogsmead full leaks and I’m supposed to believe that someone with the box that leaked earlier shots hasn’t leaked the rest?

 Pretty lame viral market research TLG. 

[Mordarch]

I'm getting kinda tired of everything being revealed/leaked with proper images besides the Black Pearl. Give me that proper look dammit.

[RichardGoring]

1 hour ago, Mordarch said:

I'm getting kinda tired of everything being revealed/leaked with proper images besides the Black Pearl. Give me that proper look dammit.

Pirates are not known to conform to others... 

[Mister Phes]

19 hours ago, thewatchman said:

So hogsmead full leaks and I’m supposed to believe that someone with the box that leaked earlier shots hasn’t leaked the rest?

Aye, the leaking process is starting to feel a bit drawn out...  perhaps overdone in this case...

It's about time we got the official announcement.

[_R_R_]

I'm getting tired of waiting too, why does every set get leaked with proper images days or weeks, if not months in advance but we get 2 low quality distorted pictures of the Pearl's box and nothing else? Still no official announcement or any teaser for a set releasing in September? The new Harry Potter set also releasing in September just had all it's official images leaked so what gives?

[Quotenotto]

1 hour ago, _R_R_ said:

I'm getting tired of waiting too, why does every set get leaked with proper images days or weeks, if not months in advance but we get 2 low quality distorted pictures of the Pearl's box and nothing else? Still no official announcement or any teaser for a set releasing in September? The new Harry Potter set also releasing in September just had all it's official images leaked so what gives?

Could be a Disney thing and not on TLGs part to decide when to reveal. Maybe Disney wants to reveal something big PotC-related and wants to tie in the set reveal, maybe together with other merchandise stuff. There are also rumors going around about a new movie, so maybe it is related to that?

[thewatchman]

8 minutes ago, Quotenotto said:

Could be a Disney thing and not on TLGs part to decide when to reveal. Maybe Disney wants to reveal something big PotC-related and wants to tie in the set reveal, maybe together with other merchandise stuff. There are also rumors going around about a new movie, so maybe it is related to that?

I’m not sure Disney want new movies to be associated with Johnny Depp, hence this being captain sparrows pirate ship. 
 I think there is a much more important meaning to this name change.

[DonQuixote]

8 hours ago, thewatchman said:

I’m not sure Disney want new movies to be associated with Johnny Depp, hence this being captain sparrows pirate ship. 
 I think there is a much more important meaning to this name change.

A new Pirates of the Caribbean movie without Johnny Depp?!

Instant flop !

[Admiral Bejaune]

54 minutes ago, DonQuixote said:

A new Pirates of the Caribbean movie without Johnny Depp?!

Instant flop !

If there is one without him, I hope it does flop.

[Legoman456]

So can we confirm that Jack the Monkey isn’t in the set then? I’d really hoped for him to be included and can’t see why he wouldn’t be.  
 

Also what do we think the scale of the interior is going to be? 
 

 

[thewatchman]

2 hours ago, DonQuixote said:

A new Pirates of the Caribbean movie without Johnny Depp?!

Instant flop !

The new movie is apparently based on the all female script Disney worked about 6 years ago.

Ayo EdebirI is apparently the lead actress and if Depp appears (which he said they would have to pay him 20 mil and an apology) it will likely only be a cameo.

 

[SpacePolice89]

14 hours ago, thewatchman said:

I’m not sure Disney want new movies to be associated with Johnny Depp, hence this being captain sparrows pirate ship. 
 I think there is a much more important meaning to this name change.

But wouldn't it then be better to have the name of the ship instead of mentioning the character that he is playing in the name?

[brimbolet]

It was also a bad move to kill Barbossa in the last movie; Geoffrey Rush & Johnny Depp are the best pirates imaginable.

18 hours ago, thewatchman said:

I’m not sure Disney want new movies to be associated with Johnny Depp, hence this being captain sparrows pirate ship. 

Disney executives should watch their own movies from time to time; it was after all Jack Sparrow who changed the vessel into a pirate ship and gave its name. Before it was called Wicked Wench. I'd like to see them print that name on the boxes