DC Superheroes 2025 - Rumors & Discussion

[Agent Kallus]

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[RobbieHxC]

1 hour ago, psqidexslizer said:

Fantastic Four really aren’t a household name. I doubt anyone who isn’t more than a casual superhero fan knows them at this point. They’ve had nearly zero media exposure for the past few decades, aside from three bad movies. Even Green Lantern who is still widely known for that bad 2011 movie had his appearances in JLU.

I know this is the DC thread, but Fantastic Four are definitely a household name, at least where I am in the UK.  Most of the people I know in real life are not superhero fans, and a lot would be able to recognise them, name each member, and say their power set.  They are more well known than other superhero teams, such as Teen Titans, Suicide Squad, Birds of Prey, Doom Patrol, Watchmen, Eternals, Inhumans, Midnight Suns, or Defenders.   The Fantastic Four are probably fifth most well known superhero team, behind the Avengers, X-Men, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Justice League.

If you think that Green Lantern is widely known for his 2011 film, then the Fantastic Four would be too considering each of those 2000s Fantastic Four films outgrossed Green Lantern at the box office.  Also, JLU isn't known to casuals.

[psqidexslizer]

14 minutes ago, RobbieHxC said:

I know this is the DC thread, but Fantastic Four are definitely a household name, at least where I am in the UK.  Most of the people I know in real life are not superhero fans, and a lot would be able to recognise them, name each member, and say their power set.  They are more well known than other superhero teams, such as Teen Titans, Suicide Squad, Birds of Prey, Doom Patrol, Watchmen, Eternals, Inhumans, Midnight Suns, or Defenders.   The Fantastic Four are probably fifth most well known superhero team, behind the Avengers, X-Men, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Justice League.

If you think that Green Lantern is widely known for his 2011 film, then the Fantastic Four would be too considering each of those 2000s Fantastic Four films outgrossed Green Lantern at the box office.  Also, JLU isn't known to casuals.

Could just be a UK vs US thing. Among the people I know who aren’t comic fans, Teen Titans, Eternals, and Suicide Squad are definitely more well known than Fantastic Four. 

[Mandalorianknight]

4 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

I wonder which suit they'll use for Kilmer's Batman—the regular or the Sonar one. Getting the Bat-Nipple suit would be the funniest possible outcome methinks.

My vote is on the bat-nipple suit but they leave off the nipples. If they included those it might be so comically bad that we'd like the figure ironically, and lego can't let us get a good figure. (This is known as the Morbius contingency- while this isn't the exact same situation, as while a bat-nipple suit without them would just be lame whereas lego comic Morbius is incredible, they didn't have the stones to go Jared Leto morbius figure.)

3 hours ago, RobbieHxC said:

Fantastic Four is nowhere near the bottom of unpopular live action superhero franchises - there's Eternals, a number of Disney+ shows, and quite a few DC misses well below them.  The Fantastic Four are still a household name, and are being pushed heavily by Marvel across their verticals right now.  To compare them to Howard the Duck is crazy!  No-one I know in real life could tell you who Howard the Duck is, never mind that he had cameos in the Guardians of the Galaxy trilogy.

This is true, but you're missing that most of the failed disney+ shows and Eternals flopped one time and were then cast off. Lego is definitely not considering making more eternals sets, for example. The hesitancy comes from how they haven't had much media over the last decade (directly because of disney) so they were kept out of merch. Like you say, they're steadily making a comeback in other media (Marvel Rivals doing some massive heavy lifting to get people to realize Mr. Fantastic is cool), but for developing a set in 2024, I can see why lego would hesitate.

51 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said:

Could just be a UK vs US thing. Among the people I know who aren’t comic fans, Teen Titans, Eternals, and Suicide Squad are definitely more well known than Fantastic Four. 

In my experience:

I also live in the US and this is definitely not the case for everyone around me. Teen titans might be around that level of "knowing them" as the FF for people my age and younger since the FF have been on the sidelines recently and Teen Titans has had some very successful cartoons in the past 20 years, but millennials and anyone older know the F4 more. The Tim Story films aren't the best but a lot of people did watch them, and of course they were a MAJOR force in the comics and ancillary media until disney bought marvel. Suicide Squad... I think plenty of people I know are aware of the movies with Harley Quinn, but aren't aware of the suicide squad as a group per se. Eternals absolutely the hell not, nobody who isn't actively watching most of the marvel stuff knows who they are. Even with fans, I don't think anyone I know could NAME an eternal, just "that movie that flopped."

TLDR around me in the US they're as known or more than the Teen Titans and Suicide Squad, depending on the age of the people, but the fact that anyone you know knows the ETERNALS more than the fantastic four is blowing my mind. The ETERNALS. That's insane.

Edited January 21 by Mandalorianknight

[Renny The Spaceman]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

My vote is on the bat-nipple suit but they leave off the nipples. If they included those it might be so comically bad that we'd like the figure ironically, and lego can't let us get a good figure. (This is known as the Morbius contingency- while this isn't the exact same situation, as while a bat-nipple suit without them would just be lame whereas lego comic Morbius is incredible, they didn't have the stones to go Jared Leto morbius figure.)

This is true, but you're missing that most of the failed disney+ shows and Eternals flopped one time and were then cast off. Lego is definitely not considering making more eternals sets, for example. The hesitancy comes from how they haven't had much media over the last decade (directly because of disney) so they were kept out of merch. Like you say, they're steadily making a comeback in other media (Marvel Rivals doing some massive heavy lifting to get people to realize Mr. Fantastic is cool), but for developing a set in 2024, I can see why lego would hesitate.

In my experience:

I also live in the US and this is definitely not the case for everyone around me. Teen titans might be around that level of "knowing them" as the FF for people my age and younger since the FF have been on the sidelines recently and Teen Titans has had some very successful cartoons in the past 20 years, but millennials and anyone older know the F4 more. The Tim Story films aren't the best but a lot of people did watch them, and of course they were a MAJOR force in the comics and ancillary media until disney bought marvel. Suicide Squad... I think plenty of people I know are aware of the movies with Harley Quinn, but aren't aware of the suicide squad as a group per se. Eternals absolutely the hell not, nobody who isn't actively watching most of the marvel stuff knows who they are. Even with fans, I don't think anyone I know could NAME an eternal, just "that movie that flopped."

TLDR around me in the US they're as known or more than the Teen Titans and Suicide Squad, depending on the age of the people, but the fact that anyone you know knows the ETERNALS more than the fantastic four is blowing my mind. The ETERNALS. That's insane.

As someone in the UK, no the Eternals are not known generally better here, like at all.

Of course with any conversation like this a key factor is there's two types of non-comic fan. The sort of person who casually keeps up with some form of adaptation or discussion of one, and the sorta person who asks if Batman is on the avengers.

Of course there are differences depending on the age group, from personal experience though that while the current push has definitely made them more well known to the public like five years ago I had coworkers telling me the fun fact that Chris Evans played fireboy from DC before he was Captain America. I think the name is well known and the visual of all them (like everyone knows they've got a stretchy guy, a rock guy, a fire guy and an invisible gal and how they look broadly) is something that's endured it's a coin flip if someone who's not of the age to have grown up with the 2000s films will know their names. I don't think the average person, like the kind that can doesn't know Marvel from DC, knows anything besides that. Maybe they know they fight Doctor Doom but nothing else.

As said by other members I think it's generally the the Guardians of the Galaxy, Justice League, Teen Titans, Suicide Squad, Avengers, X-Men and Fantastic Four normal people know to varying degrees.

Will firmly disagree with people not knowing the Suicide Squad as a group though, that's one that's crossed into public consciousness with the base concept of "bad guys forced to do good to get out of jail" and as "Group of characters that almost all die" being applied to the name. That's something non-capeshit people drop in conversation or make jokes about.

The average person probably doesn't know individual members outside of Harley Quinn but I think that's natural with a group that should be defined by a rotating roster 

[Rwbricks]

Updates from Discord: “76304 - Is just the Batmobile, it’s very similar to 76274 [Batman: The Animated Series Batmobile]. Comes with a plaque [spelt “plague”] and a mini-figure. Might be compatible with the Arkham Asylum set.” 

 

*sigh* I was hoping for a Batcave. And I hope that the “a minifigure” does not mean only one minifigure. Even the previous Batmobiles came with two, unless this is a pseudo-UCS Batmobile, in which case the large ‘66 one only came with one minifigure. Either way, I went from potentially getting this set to likely not. 

[wesker]

4 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

I'm pretty sure it's just the Batmobile.

According to one of the leakers, it was always a Batmobile, but they assumed it to be a Batcave due to its price point.

Its a shame its not a combination of both. That would have been the best outcome.

15 minutes ago, Rwbricks said:

Updates from Discord: “76304 - Is just the Batmobile, it’s very similar to 76274 [Batman: The Animated Series Batmobile]. Comes with a plaque [spelt “plague”] and a mini-figure. Might be compatible with the Arkham Asylum set.” 

 

*sigh* I was hoping for a Batcave. And I hope that the “a minifigure” does not mean only one minifigure. Even the previous Batmobiles came with two, unless this is a pseudo-UCS Batmobile, in which case the large ‘66 one only came with one minifigure. Either way, I went from potentially getting this set to likely not. 

Only one minifigure is disappointing. Hopefully it is compatible with Arkham Asylum so we can at least get the rest of the Schumacher cast there.

Edited January 21 by wesker

[Legoman123]

So it’s looking likely that Arkham is going to be based off of Batman Forever, that’s just awful.  I really hope it isn’t and it’s comic based, animated series or from the Arkham games.  
 

What is the first Arkham Asylum based off of? The version that came out in 2006

Edited January 22 by Legoman123

[BatDeanj]

The first Arkham and all the 2006 wave were its own thing with inspiration from BTAS and the classic films

OMG really Arkham based of Batman forever. That would suck why

Can you link the discord url here?

Edited January 22 by BatDeanj

[psqidexslizer]

Welp. If Arkham really is based on the Schumacher films, I guess the line-up is going to be Batman, Batgirl, Commissioner Gordon, Chase Meridian, Two Face, Riddler, Mr Freeze, Bane, Poison Ivy, and 1 generic guard.

Maybe the build will be good. I do like the design from the movies, at least. And I’d be interested in collecting Schumacher versions of the characters. But I don’t know that I could justify spending $400 on them.

Edited January 22 by psqidexslizer

[Coryo]

12 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

Maybe 2026, if a new virus doesn't kill us

1 hour ago, Rwbricks said:

Updates from Discord: “76304 - Is just the Batmobile, it’s very similar to 76274. Comes with a plaque [spelt “plague”] 

Ground Zero of the next global pandemic - The Schumacher Batmobile

 

21 minutes ago, BatDeanj said:

Can you link the discord url here?

This one is run by the mods of r/Legoleak

[Rwbricks]

59 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said:

Welp. If Arkham really is based on the Schumacher films, I guess the line-up is going to be Batman, Batgirl, Commissioner Gordon, Chase Meridian, Two Face, Riddler, Mr Freeze, Bane, Poison Ivy, and 1 generic guard.

Maybe the build will be good. I do like the design from the movies, at least. And I’d be interested in collecting Schumacher versions of the characters. But I don’t know that I could justify spending $400 on them.

I’m getting flashbacks to when we all thought the $400 Batcave was going to be the Daily Bugle of comic Batman sets. We must not have learned. 

[Lego Nostalgia]

If Arkham is based off the worst Batman movies then I think Lego should just give up and lose the IP, who tf is coming up with these decisions, a guy on the street has better ideas than this

400$ for a Batman Forever Arkham, wtf, if it was comics based you could have figures we'd never get anywhere else, Pyg,Zsaz.   Could even have references to the games, and is the Batmobile seriously 90$, that's just robbery right there

Lego has become very anti customer since 2022, putting up prices wasn't because of inflation, it was greed, ever notice there was no issues about budget, reusing figures and new prints years ago ?

[wesker]

13 minutes ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

400$ for a Batman Forever Arkham, wtf, if it was comics based you could have figures we'd never get anywhere else, Pyg,Zsaz.   Could even have references to the games, and is the Batmobile seriously 90$, that's just robbery right there

Even if the new Arkham set were based on the comics I don't think there is any chance of Lego incuding never-before-made C list villains like that. Previous Arkham sets have always gone for the safe mainstream options like Joker, Harley, Ivy, Scarecrow, Riddler, Two-Face etc. With the current state of the theme on life support I don't expect the new set to be any different regardless what source material it is based on.

[Lego Nostalgia]

3 minutes ago, wesker said:

Even if the new Arkham set were based on the comics I don't think there is any chance of Lego incuding never-before-made C list villains like that. Previous Arkham sets have always gone for the safe mainstream options like Joker, Harley, Ivy, Scarecrow, Riddler, Two-Face etc. With the current state of the theme on life support I don't expect the new set to be any different regardless what source material it is based on.

Probably would have had more of a chance back in 2016

[thephantasm]

Lmao i suggested a modular comic batcave series but i guess only spiderman can enjoy that

 

You could do like giant t rex as beast boy 

Giant joker card as jokers vehicle or whatever

Suit rack, batcomputer, work stations

 

 

Maybe also lego saw the love for media accurate vehicles then decided to extended it to ucs batcaves, arkham and schumaccher 💀 not what I meant

 

But i guess even if we got comic modulars itd be overpriced to heck, lego retail sets are cooked

Edited January 22 by thephantasm

[Mandalorianknight]

3 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

As someone in the UK, no the Eternals are not known generally better here, like at all.

Will firmly disagree with people not knowing the Suicide Squad as a group though, that's one that's crossed into public consciousness with the base concept of "bad guys forced to do good to get out of jail" and as "Group of characters that almost all die" being applied to the name. That's something non-capeshit people drop in conversation or make jokes about.

Yeah look obviously everything's anecdotes, but I'm struggling to imagine the number of people who know the Eternals but not the F4 is more than, like, a single digit.

Yeah I mean that's just from my experience, I've heard it referred to as "the movies with harley quinn and the other villains" or "Guardians with Harley Quinn"

2 hours ago, Rwbricks said:

Updates from Discord: “76304 - Is just the Batmobile, it’s very similar to 76274 [Batman: The Animated Series Batmobile]. Comes with a plaque [spelt “plague”] and a mini-figure. Might be compatible with the Arkham Asylum set.” 

"We live in a society where honor Robin is a distant memory. Isn't that right, Batman?" -the guy who played Morbius.

2 hours ago, psqidexslizer said:

Welp. If Arkham really is based on the Schumacher films, I guess the line-up is going to be Batman, Batgirl, Commissioner Gordon, Chase Meridian, Two Face, Riddler, Mr Freeze, Bane, Poison Ivy, and 1 generic guard.

I audibly laughed because my first thought was "that's optimistic", and then I realized that I was considering this lineup of Schumacher figures optimistic for a $400 set.

1 hour ago, Coryo said:

Ground Zero of the next global pandemic - The Schumacher Batmobile

That price tag is because of the nanomachines in each box.

1 hour ago, Rwbricks said:

I’m getting flashbacks to when we all thought the $400 Batcave was going to be the Daily Bugle of comic Batman sets. We must not have learned. 

Ironic that the batman theme can now best be described by Spider-man's girlfriend.

(I mean "Expect disappointment and you'll never be disappointed", not "I'm leaving you for Paul", if anyone's confused.)

51 minutes ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

If Arkham is based off the worst Batman movies then I think Lego should just give up and lose the IP, who tf is coming up with these decisions, a guy on the street has better ideas than this

Lego has become very anti customer since 2022, putting up prices wasn't because of inflation, it was greed, ever notice there was no issues about budget, reusing figures and new prints years ago ?

I've been saying for a year or two now that it won't be long before they fold Batman into Lego Icons, and the only things keeping it out are the 4+ sets and lego wondering if the Gunn universe will be a new MCU. If superman fails I think batman gets folded into Icons.

Not that I want to defend lego here because they've been making plenty of baffling and bad decisions over the past half-decade, but inflation in many cases really HAS been that bad- the $30 sets now being $38 is almost beat-for-beat how inflation's gone over the past few years in the US, for example, and those issues were all there. I can think of a lot of SW sets off the top of my head with what we'd consider genuinely insane figure/cost ratios (adjusted for inflation) nowadays.

[Lego Nostalgia]

5 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Yeah look obviously everything's anecdotes, but I'm struggling to imagine the number of people who know the Eternals but not the F4 is more than, like, a single digit.

Yeah I mean that's just from my experience, I've heard it referred to as "the movies with harley quinn and the other villains" or "Guardians with Harley Quinn"

"We live in a society where honor Robin is a distant memory. Isn't that right, Batman?" -the guy who played Morbius.

I audibly laughed because my first thought was "that's optimistic", and then I realized that I was considering this lineup of Schumacher figures optimistic for a $400 set.

That price tag is because of the nanomachines in each box.

Ironic that the batman theme can now best be described by Spider-man's girlfriend.

(I mean "Expect disappointment and you'll never be disappointed", not "I'm leaving you for Paul", if anyone's confused.)

I've been saying for a year or two now that it won't be long before they fold Batman into Lego Icons, and the only things keeping it out are the 4+ sets and lego wondering if the Gunn universe will be a new MCU. If superman fails I think batman gets folded into Icons.

Not that I want to defend lego here because they've been making plenty of baffling and bad decisions over the past half-decade, but inflation in many cases really HAS been that bad- the $30 sets now being $38 is almost beat-for-beat how inflation's gone over the past few years in the US, for example, and those issues were all there. I can think of a lot of SW sets off the top of my head with what we'd consider genuinely insane figure/cost ratios (adjusted for inflation) nowadays.

No way inflation could cause a 40$ Batmobile to be 60$

[NovaBricks]

Just cancel the theme. If it’s $400 Schumacher Arkham then there’s no defending anything. There’s not a person out there who is asking for this. 
 

The ironic thing is both BF and BTAS show just about the same amount of Arkham and it looks remarkably similar. Why tie it in to the least liked adaptation of all time instead of the most liked?

Edited January 22 by NovaBricks

[Mandalorianknight]

2 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

No way inflation could cause a 40$ Batmobile to be 60$

I said in many cases, not all- the Tumbler, X-jet, Hoopty, and Ahsoka's Starfighter are all recent examples of sets where inflation doesn't justify the increase. You had just specifically mentioned the price increases around 2022, and it is important to note that in the US many of those are almost beat for beat with inflation.

Inflation doesn't cause a $40 batmobile to be $50. But it does cause, say, a $40 set in 2019 to be $50 directly now.

2 hours ago, NovaBricks said:

Just cancel the theme.

At this point yes. We're rapidly approaching a bionicle G2 situation wherein the decisions are so bafflingly poor (hey you know that theme that saved our company, the one everyone liked because of the story and lore? Axe the story and lore from the reboot. Make it so half the characters in the first wave don't even have NAMES) and the sets are selling poorly enough (the full 2023 batman wave being put into that value pack that more or less halved the price) that sooner or later retailers are just going to stop stocking lego DC. It might legitimately be better to cancel the theme and wait until whoever's making these decisions is gone to avoid a situation like that.

[icm]

I put down full price for a $48 playset of the 1989 Batmobile. I paid $48 for a $60 playset of the BTAS Batmobile at 20% off. I paid full price for a $150 display model of the Classic TV Batmobile with the Books Are My Passion GWP. I'll be content to pay $48 for a $60 playset of the Tumbler at 20% off, even though that's still $8 more than the larger, better 2021 Tumbler playset at full price. But there ain't no way I'm buying a $100 playset of the Batman Forever Batmobile. Well, maaaybe if I could get just the car used for twenty or thirty bucks.

[THELEGOBATMAN]

I'm lost for words. If the Arkham Asylum is really somehow based on those movies... like, genuinely—what would have to be going on in LEGO's mind?

The Batmobile including only one minifigure (unless it was a typo) would be absolutely ridiculous, especially for a 100€ one.

[wesker]

3 hours ago, NovaBricks said:

Just cancel the theme. If it’s $400 Schumacher Arkham then there’s no defending anything. There’s not a person out there who is asking for this. 
 

The ironic thing is both BF and BTAS show just about the same amount of Arkham and it looks remarkably similar. Why tie it in to the least liked adaptation of all time instead of the most liked?

The Schumacher films may be the worst Batman adaption to date but they do still have their fans. The Funko and DC Direct figures based on those films have sold surprisingly well (with Poison Ivy's figure in particular being very popular) so there is an audience out there.

Still I wish Lego would have done a lot more with BTAS. Its a shame if the Batmobile and Gotham City Skyline are all we get from the show.

[Lionbear8]

16 hours ago, NovaBricks said:

Where did you see September?

a known leaker on instagram

[BatDeanj]

I hoping the quote just ment the scale was the same as Arkham so not a massive Batmobile 

how would they bleed figure if it was the only 1 they could do is from the Batmobile set they are not creating 8 new figs with prints based on Batman forever