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1 hour ago, efferman said:

But i have to say they are pretty hard. Even in the softest setting

Large motorized models tend to be pretty heavy, so a harder spring that doesn't sag when left on the shelf is a good thing. LEGO's failed designs with the Chiro and Sian show how not to choose spring rates.

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Yesterday I bought new CaDa 1:8 YangWang U9 Supercar (C64011W) with "an early bird" discount 5% at $ 294,50. Package should arrive to Czech republic within 2 weeks. Once arrived, I will post photos from unboxing, content of box and also 3 special new parts - new shock absorbers + new brake discs with integrated callipers and new rims. I hope I will be able to "disassemble" the manual and scan the individual steps into *.pdf. Unfortunately, CaDa no longer allows manuals to be downloaded, so this is the only solution to make the manual available to the community.

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On 7/24/2025 at 1:13 PM, Auroralampinen said:

Oh wow. The new cada yangwang has adjustable springs. This is soo usefull piece:). 

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shame you cant adjust them using a mechanism you build, only by hand

I also bet you'd have to take the wheels.off to get your hand in there too

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10 hours ago, SNIPE said:

shame you cant adjust them using a mechanism you build, only by hand

I also bet you'd have to take the wheels.off to get your hand in there too

Why not? What you can turn with your fingers will also turn the motor. It is not for nothing that the design uses 5 servomotors, 4 of which are most likely doing this. If the suspension height is adjusted by controlling these shock absorbers, then this is a very simple and effective design solution. The only downside is that these unique shock absorbers will be needed to repeat it.

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I do not think the suspension heigt is adjusted by the shock absorbers. The adjustment of the stiffness doesn't changing something on the length.

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Probably the upper connection point is moved by the servos. 

By the way, the softest setting has the same stiffnes like the lego shock absorber

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When did CADA become the dearer alternative to Lego?

I would have liked to add the Kick Sauber to my F1 collection but I can't justify the extra $100 price tag. That's the situation in Australia anyway unless someone can point me in the right direction

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18 hours ago, efferman said:

I do not think the suspension heigt is adjusted by the shock absorbers. The adjustment of the stiffness doesn't changing something on the length.

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Probably the upper connection point is moved by the servos. 

By the way, the softest setting has the same stiffnes like the lego shock absorber

Can you please measure the force in lowest and highest setting with a kitchen scale and post it here?

Remember 8279, that set also used this kind of suspension adjustment but it did it with one M-motor and all 4 sides simultaneously. I was waiting in vain for LEGO to release a Technic set with this function again. Luckily we have CaDA now who does the better sets. LEGO could have also made their new shock absorbers like this, but instead put a fake plastic spring coil with no spring rate adjustment whatsoever, because their supercars are just meant to sit on a shelf for display.

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19 hours ago, Sokolov Edward said:

Why not? What you can turn with your fingers will also turn the motor. It is not for nothing that the design uses 5 servomotors, 4 of which are most likely doing this. If the suspension height is adjusted by controlling these shock absorbers, then this is a very simple and effective design solution. The only downside is that these unique shock absorbers will be needed to repeat it.

The servos only move the upper excentric connection point. The wheel on the shock absorber is to increase spring rate and decrease travel.

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3 hours ago, MarkyMark42 said:

When did CADA become the dearer alternative to Lego?

I would have liked to add the Kick Sauber to my F1 collection but I can't justify the extra $100 price tag. That's the situation in Australia anyway unless someone can point me in the right direction

C64010 in Russia costs from 76 euros with delivery from China. What is available in Russia costs twice as much. Prices for CADA models have always been higher than Chinese copies. But this applies to all of the Chinese's own developments - releasing a copy of Lego is easier. For example, a copy of the McLaren P1 now costs 2 times less than this F1.

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3 hours ago, R0Sch said:

Can you please measure the force in lowest and highest setting with a kitchen scale and post it here?

lowest reaction on the kitchen scale at around 1400-1500g. The hardest setting without reducing the suspension travel is around 4000-4500g, but you can block the spring if you want

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1 hour ago, efferman said:

lowest reaction on the kitchen scale at around 1400-1500g. The hardest setting without reducing the suspension travel is around 4000-4500g, but you can block the spring if you want

Thanks a lot! Wow! That makes it the hardest spring out there. The adjustability is awesome, and I imagine you can switch the coil spings out pretty easily if you need it to be softer. 
I just measured LEGO's hardest spring, the 11.5L which is around 2300g on lowest setting and ~3200-3300g on highest just before end-stop.
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