[CADA] CADA General Discussion Topic

[thekoRngear]

It's defo the next big thing for Cada. Waiting for it to come!

[R0Sch]

1 hour ago, efferman said:

But i have to say they are pretty hard. Even in the softest setting

Large motorized models tend to be pretty heavy, so a harder spring that doesn't sag when left on the shelf is a good thing. LEGO's failed designs with the Chiro and Sian show how not to choose spring rates.

[Petr LUBAS]

Yesterday I bought new CaDa 1:8 YangWang U9 Supercar (C64011W) with "an early bird" discount 5% at $ 294,50. Package should arrive to Czech republic within 2 weeks. Once arrived, I will post photos from unboxing, content of box and also 3 special new parts - new shock absorbers + new brake discs with integrated callipers and new rims. I hope I will be able to "disassemble" the manual and scan the individual steps into *.pdf. Unfortunately, CaDa no longer allows manuals to be downloaded, so this is the only solution to make the manual available to the community.

[SNIPE]

On 7/24/2025 at 1:13 PM, Auroralampinen said:

Oh wow. The new cada yangwang has adjustable springs. This is soo usefull piece:). 

shame you cant adjust them using a mechanism you build, only by hand

I also bet you'd have to take the wheels.off to get your hand in there too

[Sokolov Edward]

10 hours ago, SNIPE said:

shame you cant adjust them using a mechanism you build, only by hand

I also bet you'd have to take the wheels.off to get your hand in there too

Why not? What you can turn with your fingers will also turn the motor. It is not for nothing that the design uses 5 servomotors, 4 of which are most likely doing this. If the suspension height is adjusted by controlling these shock absorbers, then this is a very simple and effective design solution. The only downside is that these unique shock absorbers will be needed to repeat it.

[efferman]

I do not think the suspension heigt is adjusted by the shock absorbers. The adjustment of the stiffness doesn't changing something on the length.

Probably the upper connection point is moved by the servos. 

By the way, the softest setting has the same stiffnes like the lego shock absorber

Edited July 26 by efferman

[msk6003]

Height adjust function will be same with this.

 

[MarkyMark42]

When did CADA become the dearer alternative to Lego?

I would have liked to add the Kick Sauber to my F1 collection but I can't justify the extra $100 price tag. That's the situation in Australia anyway unless someone can point me in the right direction

[R0Sch]

18 hours ago, efferman said:

I do not think the suspension heigt is adjusted by the shock absorbers. The adjustment of the stiffness doesn't changing something on the length.

Probably the upper connection point is moved by the servos. 

By the way, the softest setting has the same stiffnes like the lego shock absorber

Can you please measure the force in lowest and highest setting with a kitchen scale and post it here?

Remember 8279, that set also used this kind of suspension adjustment but it did it with one M-motor and all 4 sides simultaneously. I was waiting in vain for LEGO to release a Technic set with this function again. Luckily we have CaDA now who does the better sets. LEGO could have also made their new shock absorbers like this, but instead put a fake plastic spring coil with no spring rate adjustment whatsoever, because their supercars are just meant to sit on a shelf for display.

Edited July 27 by R0Sch

[R0Sch]

19 hours ago, Sokolov Edward said:

Why not? What you can turn with your fingers will also turn the motor. It is not for nothing that the design uses 5 servomotors, 4 of which are most likely doing this. If the suspension height is adjusted by controlling these shock absorbers, then this is a very simple and effective design solution. The only downside is that these unique shock absorbers will be needed to repeat it.

The servos only move the upper excentric connection point. The wheel on the shock absorber is to increase spring rate and decrease travel.

[Sokolov Edward]

3 hours ago, MarkyMark42 said:

When did CADA become the dearer alternative to Lego?

I would have liked to add the Kick Sauber to my F1 collection but I can't justify the extra $100 price tag. That's the situation in Australia anyway unless someone can point me in the right direction

C64010 in Russia costs from 76 euros with delivery from China. What is available in Russia costs twice as much. Prices for CADA models have always been higher than Chinese copies. But this applies to all of the Chinese's own developments - releasing a copy of Lego is easier. For example, a copy of the McLaren P1 now costs 2 times less than this F1.

Edited July 27 by Sokolov Edward

[efferman]

3 hours ago, R0Sch said:

Can you please measure the force in lowest and highest setting with a kitchen scale and post it here?

lowest reaction on the kitchen scale at around 1400-1500g. The hardest setting without reducing the suspension travel is around 4000-4500g, but you can block the spring if you want

[R0Sch]

1 hour ago, efferman said:

lowest reaction on the kitchen scale at around 1400-1500g. The hardest setting without reducing the suspension travel is around 4000-4500g, but you can block the spring if you want

Thanks a lot! Wow! That makes it the hardest spring out there. The adjustability is awesome, and I imagine you can switch the coil spings out pretty easily if you need it to be softer. 
I just measured LEGO's hardest spring, the 11.5L which is around 2300g on lowest setting and ~3200-3300g on highest just before end-stop.

[Sokolov Edward]

The ywobb library recently added scans of instructions for the C61507 crane and the Mazda C63007.
The crane has an interesting design in terms of mechanics - 120 gears with a total of 2600 parts. For comparison, the new excavator from Lego contains 80 gears with 2359 parts. If you have a sufficient number of modified beams, you can now assemble it without buying it. Specific CADA JJ7082 parts are used only to replace 60484, and JH6107 instead of 63869. Unfortunately, it has a lot of "brickwork" to give it an attractive appearance, which IMHO is not really needed - I still vote for the purity of the Lego Technic style.
Mazda is a mirror of the new trend in Chinese supercars - a minimum of mechanics with an attractive design. It has only a dozen gears, a differential and 2 cardans - the rest is a masonry of beams and bricks. In my humble opinion, the Mazda should only be assembled for installation on a shelf - provided that you are satisfied with the appearance. I saw a similar design in a licensed copy of the Maserati from Reobrix 11010 (the instructions are in the same library). A beautiful blue case made of technics panels, and inside there are a bunch of black beams with a complete lack of mechanical functions.

Edited August 6 by Sokolov Edward

[blondasek]

@Sokolov Edward I really hope they did improve the quality of those gears, otherwise most of them needs to be replaced with Lego. I had to swap 12 of them in my Military Crane from Efferman, plus a few axles and CV joints as Cada's are bad.

[Sokolov Edward]

1 hour ago, blondasek said:

@Sokolov Edward I really hope they did improve the quality of those gears, otherwise most of them needs to be replaced with Lego. I had to swap 12 of them in my Military Crane from Efferman, plus a few axles and CV joints as Cada's are bad.

I am not going to buy it and I do not encourage others to do so. I am considering assembling it from what I already have, including parts from other CADA kits. The quality of Chinese parts is sometimes truly terrible and makes them unacceptable for use. There are problems with the quality of the plastic - too fragile, and with errors in the shape of the part. For example, I came across 42135 and 59443 with insufficient depth of holes for the axle. And the copy of the McLaren P1 included red gears 18946, which have hooks for the clutch not made to the very edge. It seems that they are not the newest parts, but especially talented manufacturers still make fatal mistakes in them.

[msk6003]

 

First review of U9

[Chili]

CaDA will release 2 licensed sets

C61511- Lotus Exige Cup 430

C64051- Suzuki Hayabusa

Edited August 7 by Chili

[R0Sch]

Nice find! Interesting color for the Lotus, if it's 1:8, I will buy it for sure. Can't wait for the Hayabusa! I absolutely loved the Katana (see my review in earlier post) and as a motorcyclist a must have.

[Bartybum]

11 hours ago, msk6003 said:

First review of U9

Lmao, Lego is so doomed in the next 10-20 years. You just can't compete with China - it's crazy how much more is on offer with this set compared to the UCS cars...

Edited August 8 by Bartybum

[blondasek]

@R0Sch it seems that Lotus is ~25 studs wide. So unfortunately not 1:8.

@Bartybum yes and no. Cada still has massive issues with quality (like I wrote, replacing so many parts in Military Crane is a big deal) or their parts and they are closing the gap in price difference. I would say I am more "concern" about new Mattel Hot Wheels cars as they are not only gorgeous but also the quality is very good. I know that as I did buy Mercedes 300 SL. Let's see what future brings us :)

[Auroralampinen]

7 hours ago, Bartybum said:

Lmao, Lego is so doomed in the next 10-20 years. You just can't compete with China - it's crazy how much more is on offer with this set compared to the UCS cars...

I agree:). 

[Auroralampinen]

New cada set :). 

https://decadastore.com/products/cada-1-14

[Bartybum]

17 hours ago, Auroralampinen said:

New cada set :). 

https://decadastore.com/products/cada-1-14

Lmao anyone else getting an offer in the "frequently bought together" that includes the smaller brick built version, bundled together for LESS than the larger version alone?

[astyanax]

10 hours ago, Bartybum said:

Lmao anyone else getting an offer in the "frequently bought together" that includes the smaller brick built version, bundled together for LESS than the larger version alone?

I've seen that happen in clothing webshops too. Something like "spend over 100 bucks to get 30% off". Then, adding a 10 bucks item to a 95 bucks cart will decrease the total.