1gor Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 On 7/15/2022 at 1:31 PM, Parazels said: I do not understand why people are praising the new grey cylinders. Technic always had specific colors for specific parts, why to change that? Would 8880 have looked better with grey suspension and grey wheels? Expand Honestly the most important is that you are safe during Russian aggression and colors are second rank...recolor is probably because something that is upcoming and people like changes Welcome back Quote
zoo Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 On 7/15/2022 at 1:31 PM, Parazels said: I do not understand why people are praising the new grey cylinders. Technic always had specific colors for specific parts, why to change that? Would 8880 have looked better with grey suspension and grey wheels? Expand For me the new colour on pneumatic cylinders is a welcome change since grey will look better together with many more colours than the yellow ones. The 8880 does have grey shock absorbers but blue wishbones. Why would it have grey wheels? Not sure of what you mean here. Quote
Parazels Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 On 7/15/2022 at 1:39 PM, 1gor said: Honestly the most important is that you are safe during Russian aggression and colors are second rank...recolor is probably because something that is upcoming and people like changes Welcome back Expand Thanks Quote
msk6003 Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 For some strange reason, this set use double bevel version of 20t gear for cabin lifting while non-bevel 20t also can work for same function. Quote
Parazels Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 On 7/15/2022 at 2:27 PM, zoo said: For me the new colour on pneumatic cylinders is a welcome change since grey will look better together with many more colours than the yellow ones. The 8880 does have grey shock absorbers but blue wishbones. Why would it have grey wheels? Not sure of what you mean here. Expand Sorry, but I can't recall any model with yellow cylinders, which would have looked better with grey cylinders. Quote
allanp Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 On 7/15/2022 at 2:43 PM, Parazels said: Sorry, but I can't recall any model with yellow cylinders, which would have looked better with grey cylinders. Expand I think basically any model that's not yellow. Even yellow JCBs have mostly black hydraulic cylinders. In real life the hydraulics are usually colour matched to the vehicle or black/dark grey. Quote
allanp Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 On 7/15/2022 at 9:34 AM, ace_klimax said: TLG has plan to release pneumatic backhoe? are there some of this rumours? I would be tempted. but funny thing, 2 months ago i just finished backhoe loader from 42082 set (so no pneumiatic, but just lineart actuators), inpired by JCB Sitemaster 4CX/5CX or CAT 444F2 more here: https://bricksafe.com/pages/klimax/42082-backhoe-tractor Expand @grohl has a YouTube channel where he recently did a live stream. During the QnA he was asked about a backhoe. Of course he can't confirm or deny anything about future product development, he could only share his own enthusiasm for a big back hoe, and he certainly seemed very enthusiastic about it. Quote
Polarlicht Posted July 16, 2022 Posted July 16, 2022 One thing's for sure, they recolored those cylinders for something bigger, and not just for that waste handler Quote
howitzer Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/16/2022 at 7:11 AM, Polarlicht said: One thing's for sure, they recolored those cylinders for something bigger, and not just for that waste handler Expand Yeah, something is coming (probably) in a year or two. I hope that'll include other sizes of the pneumatic cylinders too in this new colour. I wouldn't mind only yellow cylinders, but non-yellow ones have existed for years in education sets, with various transparent housings. Quote
mpj Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/15/2022 at 2:43 PM, Parazels said: Sorry, but I can't recall any model with yellow cylinders, which would have looked better with grey cylinders. Expand The Volvo 42053, the Arocs 42043... Quote
Maaboo the Witch Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 7:58 PM, mpj said: The Volvo 42053, the Arocs 42043... Expand 42080... Quote
Parazels Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 (edited) On 7/17/2022 at 8:04 PM, Maaboo35 said: 42080... Expand Are you kidding guys? The yellow cylinders in 42043 and 42080 looked great! I think, you are too obsessed with building ultrarealistic models. It's Technic, not Creator Expert! Edited July 17, 2022 by Parazels Quote
Maaboo the Witch Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 8:38 PM, Parazels said: Are you kidding guys? Expand No. Quote
Erik Leppen Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 On 7/15/2022 at 2:43 PM, Parazels said: Sorry, but I can't recall any model with yellow cylinders, which would have looked better with grey cylinders. Expand On 7/17/2022 at 7:58 PM, mpj said: The Volvo 42053, the Arocs 42043... Expand On 7/17/2022 at 8:04 PM, Maaboo35 said: 42080... Expand On 7/17/2022 at 8:38 PM, Parazels said: Are you kidding guys? The yellow cylinders in 42043 and 42080 looked great! I think, you are too obsessed with building ultrarealistic models. It's Technic, not Creator Expert! Expand Now this is what they call "opinions". Apparently, people disagree. And that's fine. Not everyone who disagrees is "obsessed" with anything. They simply have another idea about colorful models and color matching. And you can't argue about taste. Personally I'm very happy with the gray cylinders, because I always hate it how every pneumatic model has to cope with yellow suddently being a color in the model. Gray is much easier to combine with anything. Also, I wish pneumatic would find a use one day in a creator expert set ;) Quote
kbalage Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 On 7/18/2022 at 7:56 AM, Erik Leppen said: Also, I wish pneumatic would find a use one day in a creator expert set ;) Expand We need a Creator Expert Chevy Impala lowrider like right now :) Quote
Maaboo the Witch Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 On 7/18/2022 at 7:56 AM, Erik Leppen said: Also, I wish pneumatic would find a use one day in a creator expert set ;) Expand Given that Technic used to be studded, why not? Quote
zoo Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 8:38 PM, Parazels said: Are you kidding guys? The yellow cylinders in 42043 and 42080 looked great! I think, you are too obsessed with building ultrarealistic models. It's Technic, not Creator Expert! Expand I am definitely not obsessed with building "ultrarealistic models". The colouring has to do with general aesthetics, nothing to do with a desire to copy real life machines. Quote
Maaboo the Witch Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 On 7/18/2022 at 10:52 AM, zoo said: I am definitely not obsessed with building "ultrarealistic models". The colouring has to do with general aesthetics, nothing to do with a desire to copy real life machines. Expand That goes double for 42080. Although the grey rams would add realism on the EW160E. Quote
allanp Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 On 7/18/2022 at 8:02 AM, kbalage said: We need a Creator Expert Chevy Impala lowrider like right now :) Expand Or a titanic sized pneumatic flying Scotsman? Quote
Bartybum Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 (edited) On 7/15/2022 at 3:03 PM, allanp said: I think basically any model that's not yellow. Even yellow JCBs have mostly black hydraulic cylinders. In real life the hydraulics are usually colour matched to the vehicle or black/dark grey. Expand Yellow cyls worked perfectly fine on the Arocs. Perfect to contrast the red crane and add some flavour to the grey/white Edited July 19, 2022 by Bartybum Quote
Jundis Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 On 7/19/2022 at 9:10 AM, Bartybum said: add some flavour to the grey/white Expand Really depends on the model. If we say black, LBG and DBG are more of secondary colours which fit everywhere, a model shouldn't have more than 2, max. 3 primary flashy colours, or it really gets messy imho. Many pneumatic models where yellow for a reason: Construction machinery. As more and more colours are available for technic, yellow pneumatic doesn't always fit. Right now, I am building a Claas Torion wheeled loader with pneumatic, just because the new cylinder are soon available in DBG. With yellow cylinders, I would have chosen another vehicle. Quote
1gor Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 On 7/19/2022 at 9:25 AM, Jundis said: Really depends on the model. If we say black, LBG and DBG are more of secondary colours which fit everywhere, a model shouldn't have more than 2, max. 3 primary flashy colours, or it really gets messy imho. Many pneumatic models where yellow for a reason: Construction machinery. As more and more colours are available for technic, yellow pneumatic doesn't always fit. Right now, I am building a Claas Torion wheeled loader with pneumatic, just because the new cylinder are soon available in DBG. With yellow cylinders, I would have chosen another vehicle. Expand I thought you could make Torion full RC (it has basically the same functions as 42030 set). Do you plan 1:17 version based on Xerion tires, or 1:23 based on Zetros tires? (I suppose first because of red rims) Quote
allanp Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 On 7/19/2022 at 9:10 AM, Bartybum said: Yellow cyls worked perfectly fine on the Arocs. Perfect to contrast the red crane and add some flavour to the grey/white Expand I mean, of course the Arocs is perfect in every way! I'm not going to argue with that but there are some that liked every set having their seats and steering wishbones coloured blue as that was the usual Technic tradition. Maybe it'll take a bit of getting used to. But TBF I still miss my studded technic and motors with no internal gearing Quote
Maaboo the Witch Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 Cylinder colour has to be taken on a model-by-model basis. The EW160E may be yellow, but it's a model that would benefit from the grey rams because the real thing has them. The Arocs on the other hand, as mentioned by @Bartybum, benefits from the yellow rams due to its otherwise muted colour palette. Plus Palfinger cranes often have yellow markings so it fits. 42080, conversely, NEEDS the grey rams. As for this 🐕, I think the grey rams make it look a bit washed out. The yellow rams would make it look a bit brighter. Quote
Jundis Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 (edited) On 7/19/2022 at 9:36 AM, 1gor said: I thought you could make Torion full RC (it has basically the same functions as 42030 set). Do you plan 1:17 version based on Xerion tires, or 1:23 based on Zetros tires? (I suppose first because of red rims) Expand Will be full RC and 1:17ish, but it will not have a bucket ;-) New thread will come as soon as I finish the Mecalac... Back to topic: The 42144 somehow left me unimpressed. The only cool things are the DGB pneumatics and the bucket mechanism, the rest is pretty standard in every aspect: - technicality/functions: Same as 42053 - looks: Below average - parts: Only DGB pneumatics is interesting - stability: is present, but seems flimsy Edited July 19, 2022 by Jundis Quote
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