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Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, Mattallica said:

but thats it, in scale with the batmobile the RTF would be like four feet long, if you mean about the same size as the batmobile then its about right for minifigs 

No, I meant the same scale as the Batmobiles but you're right. I didn't notice how big the RTF is :laugh:

Then I take it back, something like the same lenght as the 1989 Batmobile. It would not be in minifig scale tho, it would be similar to the new Hogwarts Express in scale.

 

2 minutes ago, Scarilian said:

 

It's the Dragon Flyer then, mystery solved and $500 very easily saved.

I can't imagine how they could have made a 500€$ of that ship. The Royal Talon at least is bulkier.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, hachiroku said:

No, I meant the same scale as the Batmobiles but you're right. I didn't notice how big the RTF is :laugh:

Then I take it back, something like the same lenght as the 1989 Batmobile. It would not be in minifig scale tho, it would be similar to the new Hogwarts Express in scale.

im thinking a UCS Slave one(75060) sized RTF would look right(actual scale) with minifigs in it not "minifig scale" like 76100

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4 minutes ago, Mattallica said:

im thinking a UCS Slave one(75060) sized RTF would look right(actual scale) with minifigs in it not "minifig scale" like 76100

But the UCS Slave I was a 180€ set, maybe 250€ in 2022. This is a 500€$ set.

 

 

Posted (edited)
29 minutes ago, Scarilian said:

 

It's the Dragon Flyer then, mystery solved and $500 very easily saved.

I wouldn’t say that’s confirmed. Look at brick clickers original post. There are a lot of rumors going around about what the set is including that it could be a dragon flyer. Nothing is confirmed yet 

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1 minute ago, hachiroku said:

But the UCS Slave I was a 180€ set, maybe 250€ in 2022. This is a 500€$ set.

 

 

yeah the price is way out there for a BP set

IDK just guessing?

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36 minutes ago, Agent Kallus said:

 but still a Ninjago city styled Wakanda with the lab, minihangwr, waterfall arena, mines underneath, throne room ect would be a way better Black panther d2c

 

That would be awesome

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53 minutes ago, Falconfan1414 said:

I wouldn’t say that’s confirmed. Look at brick clickers original post. There are a lot of rumors going around about what the set is including that it could be a dragon flyer. Nothing is confirmed yet 

I guess, but we are now at the point where it's either so obscure or undesired that Lego would have to be actively trying to disappoint people :shrug_confused:

Like this is the $500 set released in what should be the 10th anniversary of the theme and it's going to be based around a Black Panther vehicle that may not even be a vehicle people actively are aware of, people are'nt even remarking on which film it's on (Civil War, Black Panther, Infinity War, Endgame, Black Panther 2) so it could wind up being a universally hated set that barely appeared in movies.

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10 minutes ago, Scarilian said:

I guess, but we are now at the  point where it's either so obscure or undesired that Lego would have to be actively trying to disappoint people :shrug_confused:

Like this is the $500 set released in what should be the 10th anniversary of the theme and it's going to be based around a Black Panther vehicle that may not even be a vehicle people actively are aware of, people are'nt even remarking on which film it's on (Civil War, Black Panther, Infinity War, Endgame, Black Panther 2) so it could wind up being a universally hated set that barely appeared in movies.

unless its from a vehicle used in BP2 , all BP related vehicles up to this point have barely appeared in any of  the movies, so it doesnt really matter which one its from

according to the mcu wiki there are 4 BP related vehicles the RTF, the dragon flyer, the maglev train and a jeep

so if it really is a BP vehicle we are getting i hope its something new

Edited by Mattallica
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Look, I really like the Wakandan vehicles but none of them are worthy of a $500 set. A Helicarrier? Absolutely. A Quinjet? Maybe. The Benatar? Nah, the lovely $170 one was just fine. Other than that the only "iconic" vehicles would be comic-based not MCU based like a huge Hellcycle or Hellcharger or a really nice X-Jet or Fantasticar, or ---just as a meme mind you--- a huge Spider-buggy.

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1 hour ago, Mattallica said:

according to the mcu wiki there are 4 BP related vehicles the RTF, the dragon flyer, the maglev train and a jeep

There's the Lexus LC 500.

Over on the Technic side there's the Ferrari Daytona (42143) and the Lamborghini Sián (42115) and they're already $450 in the US.

Chuck in a Black Panther figure like the new Spidermans/Venom for another $20. Another $30 for licensing costs and you're at the magic $500.

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On 8/22/2022 at 8:47 PM, Frizzlefry25 said:

UCS super size Blank Panther Jet! Just in time for the sequel.

 

$500 is such a big number. If you took a SW standard UCS, $199 old $240 new. $250-$350 would be more than enough for any MCU vehicle. Whatever it is, does not need a $500 Razorcrest version!

Dang maybe I was right!  It must  contain a mountain or statue or something at that price, there is no way its just a vehicle. That being said, any BP vehicles could have been done at the $150-$250 range. When you are talking a $500 price no matter the theme it better be an amazing build and a highly desired and iconic item, because that is not a drop in the bucket for alot of people!

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1 hour ago, Mattallica said:

all BP related vehicles up to this point have barely appeared in any of  the movies, so it doesnt really matter which one its from

If we are going for prior movies the Dragon Flyer is probably the most unique and has the most screentime, you could presumably display it and pose the wings along with transforming the set from its landed to flying form and it features somewhat prominantly that you'd be able to adapt scenes from Black Panther & Endgame's final battle. If it's oversized then at least you'd have room to modify it to include some small diorama or something inside it, or at least store Black Panther figures in it.

1 hour ago, Mattallica said:

unless its from a vehicle used in BP2

Black Panther 2 releases 11th November and this set apparently releases on 11th November according to remarks from Brick_Clicker - and Falconfan1414 referred us back to that. Perhaps them releasing the same time is a hint to its nature. I don't believe in coincidences. Perhaps it is a Black Panther 2 focused vehicle set?

The only vehicles we are aware of from that are Shuri's Sunbird and that weird submarine thing in a set with Namor's throne, however it could always be something that's not been revealed yet. Perhaps some obscure comics vehicle that's being adapted into the movie? Though basing it on the new movie and releasing on the same day would make it seems like it'll probably play into exploiting the legacy of T'Challa/Chadwick Boseman somehow.

1 hour ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

If the biggest Marvel set will be a 500€ Dragon Flyer, then I don't know what I'm gonna do :tongue:

Could be worse... imagine if it is a Black Panther 2 vehicle - it could be Shuri's Sunbird :sick: Falconfan1414's & Promobricks instagram post on the set does feature the Sunbird as an option.

Let alone the potential for it to be based on concept art for Black Panther 2 that's not actually adapted into the movie or barely featured at all, perhaps something even worse.

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1 hour ago, ToaDraco said:

Look, I really like the Wakandan vehicles but none of them are worthy of a $500 set. A Helicarrier? Absolutely. A Quinjet? Maybe. The Benatar? Nah, the lovely $170 one was just fine. Other than that the only "iconic" vehicles would be comic-based not MCU based like a huge Hellcycle or Hellcharger or a really nice X-Jet or Fantasticar, or ---just as a meme mind you--- a huge Spider-buggy.

I'm gonna give a slightly different opinion here: I don't like the wakandan vehicles, the more I think about them. They're kind of boring. Honestly, even a purple trim like on the kinetic BP suit would have been something, but as-is they're very "generic sci-fi vehicle"

In terms of $500 worthy vehicles, I think there are 5: The Quinjet, Milano, Benatar, Helicarrier, and Sanctuary 2. (even then, the sanctuary 2 is a bit of a strech, and I think it would require a small endgame diorama or at least a really solid figure selection to work. On the other hand, there are a great deal of LOCATIONS, both from the films and comics, that I think could work well. The reason for this, I think, is that superheroes generally aren't about vehicles, they're about the characters. There are iconic locations, like Avengers Tower, the X-Mansion (and avengers mansion for that matter...not avengers mountain, though), but a big part of buying a big superhero set for a lot of people is being able to display their heroes in battle. Hence sets like the ultimate bridge battle. 

12 minutes ago, ReversibleSedgewick said:

There's the Lexus LC 500.

Yup, that's it. You found the set.

Posted
1 hour ago, Scarilian said:

Could be worse... imagine if it is a Black Panther 2 vehicle - it could be Shuri's Sunbird :sick:

That‘d be the first time in TLG history that a new film that isn‘t part of the LEGO Movie franchise is getting a D2C right at release. That’d already be a risky move for any normal D2C set, let alone a $500 one :grin:

Posted
53 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

That‘d be the first time in TLG history that a new film that isn‘t part of the LEGO Movie franchise is getting a D2C right at release. That’d already be a risky move for any normal D2C set, let alone a $500 one :grin:

Maybe marvel really really really wants to promote the new film 

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At $500, I bet it’s a great big model of the locomotive, power car, and one ore car from the mining railway, plus a stretch of maglev track and a segment of the ore loading station. Plus twenty minifigs including three versions of T’Challa, two versions of Shuri, and two unnamed mine workers :)

Posted

I know the leakers have been saying for a while that it's going to disappoint people, but this $500 set has to be one of the most bizarre releases Lego has ever done, assuming everything we've heard about it is correct.

Posted
4 minutes ago, Meadius said:

I know the leakers have been saying for a while that it's going to disappoint people, but this $500 set has to be one of the most bizarre releases Lego has ever done, assuming everything we've heard about it is correct.

Honestly, I'm starting to get the vibe that no one except Lego actually knows what it is--Brick Clicker has given us the most info so far, and even he's been pretty vague and made it pretty clear that he doesn't know. I trust the leakers, but I also can't help but feel like we have not gotten the full picture. 

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I assumed the leakers knew what the set was, and that's why they were able to to say what the set wasn't? But if nothing's confirmed are they just being drip fed hints as well which they're then passing down to us? 

Regardless, anything Black Panther related, outside of Wakanda itself, for $500, is a terrible choice. 

As many have said, vehicles aren't really something Marvel are known for, but if you include the comics, I'm sure I could come up with a list of Marvel vehicles that could make for interesting sets... and the Black Panther vehicles would be a ways down the list. I agree the statement that a lot of companies seem to think that people will go crazy for anything Wakandan. And sure, Wakanda is cool, but the most interesting part about it, to me, is T'Challa himself.

All in all though I'm just glad it's something I'm not remotely interested in.

Besides I'd rather only have one massively out of my price range set to long for at a time and that honour will probably be going to the Razor Crest. 

Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, Brickroll said:

Honestly, I'm starting to get the vibe that no one except Lego actually knows what it is--Brick Clicker has given us the most info so far, and even he's been pretty vague and made it pretty clear that he doesn't know. I trust the leakers, but I also can't help but feel like we have not gotten the full picture. 

I believe they know the theme, size and rough nature of the set just not any additional specifics. Most likely this could be because it's based on Black Panther 2.

I imagine they've been told it includes a vehicle and perhaps a rough description of the vehicle and/or its name, but it may not match anything currently shown as the films marketing has been minimal other than a trailer and some character profiles so perhaps could have some confusion in that regard.

It'd probably be labelled something like 'Battle for/of/in Wakanda' which is generic enough that it could be applied to a variety of movies (Black Panther, Infinity War, Black Panther 2) which may explain why they felt minifigures would be the main selling point, especially if they felt it was an Infinity War set.

6 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

That‘d be the first time in TLG history that a new film that isn‘t part of the LEGO Movie franchise is getting a D2C right at release. That’d already be a risky move for any normal D2C set, let alone a $500 one :grin:

I mean it has been described as unique, so that would be pretty unique. Like Sanctum was unique in the sense that it had elements from two movies and if release schedules were better then we would have gotten that alongside Doctor Strange 2.

Really don't grasp why they'd want to put all their eggs in one basket and make four Black Panther 2 sets and crown it off with a $500 Black Panther 2 D2C though :shrug_confused:

Edited by Scarilian
Posted (edited)

I still think it could be a collection of multiple vehicles. The leakers said it „includes“ a BP vehicle, which is an interesting way to put it :laugh: Still a questionable idea, but I‘d rather have a collection of three UCS-sized $150 vehicles than a singular oversized one.

Also, one of the leakers said it‘d be more suitable as a DC set, and the Marvel equivalent to a collection of multiple Bat vehicles would fit that description to a tee

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