MAB Posted April 11 Posted April 11 5 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: My stance on reselling is this: an increase in price is justified, if the seller adds value. In terms of collecting, this means taking good care of the set (like keeping the box in good condition over multiple years etc). So asking a (reasonably) higher price for an old set is justified in my eyes Selling a GWP for five times its actual value 2 days after launch is certainly NOT. So yeah, agreed, that‘s just plain greed. It's actual value is what people will pay for it at the time it is sold. I imagine the value of the Smeagol GWP is quite high because of the poor perceived value of the main set to get it. Some buyers wanting those exclusive minifig heads or the packaging but not wanting to pay the rather high value for the Shire set may be willing to go higher than others. If I had one to sell, I probably wouldn't let it go for less than $70 US, just to offset the high price of the set. And buyers will decide if that is justified. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted April 11 Posted April 11 29 minutes ago, MAB said: It's actual value is what people will pay for it at the time it is sold. Well yeah, the real value of anything is what people are willing to pay for it Since most people seem to sell it for ~$50 on Bricklink, that seems to be where we‘re currently at, which is still double its „official“ worth. Quote
RichardGoring Posted April 11 Posted April 11 2 hours ago, Arjo said: I don’t necessarily disagree, as some people do indeed go through the whole process with the single goal to make a profit. However, it takes two to tango and sellers can only achieve what buyers are willing to pay. I have never resold a gwp… but I often end up in the position where I can’t justify opening and enjoying them either because their market value is more than what I would be comfortable paying. In other words, there are sellers out there who would have liked to keep gwp x, y, z but can’t quite justify the luxury when they already are paying too much for a given lego set. different story with the raiders scanning all the beastmasters only to sell them all out at 3x the price… I still have the fell beast unopened and was/am tempted to sell it. Partly because the Nazgul were on Pick a Brick and I was able to get some, partly because it sells for a pretty crazy amount, partly because I prefer some of the MOCs on Rebrickable, and I could build several of those for the resale price of the GWP, but mostly because I still haven't built Barad-dur yet, and a load of other things too! But I agree with the sentiment. Quote
Lordhelmet Posted April 11 Posted April 11 5 minutes ago, RichardGoring said: I still have the fell beast unopened and was/am tempted to sell it. Partly because the Nazgul were on Pick a Brick and I was able to get some, partly because it sells for a pretty crazy amount, partly because I prefer some of the MOCs on Rebrickable, and I could build several of those for the resale price of the GWP, but mostly because I still haven't built Barad-dur yet, and a load of other things too! But I agree with the sentiment. Building the fell beast set was probably my favorite of the new lord of the rings sets to build. Mostly because it was very nostalgic to build a small LOTR set. Felt great to build a 270 piece LOTR set in less than an hour with good results. That is why I think sets in the 200-1500 piece range would be so good for the theme (shire was pretty fun too but I didn’t build all of it myself) (Rivendell was awesome but took a long time same with Barad Dur, Sméagol/Déagol was a dark scene and very short build so it was fun but not as good as the others to me) Quote
Virginia_Bricks Posted April 11 Posted April 11 6 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Well yeah, the real value of anything is what people are willing to pay for it Since most people seem to sell it for ~$50 on Bricklink, that seems to be where we‘re currently at, which is still double its „official“ worth. Average price is around $65, but what is crazy is some store in HK supposedly has 400 of them. Though most sets they carry they have a crazy number of (100 Mos Eisley Cantina or 100 Hogwarts Express D2C sets). Those are the sellers that are the issue. The ones that just sell their GWP and build the set that came with are fine in my opinion. Quote
hikouki Posted April 12 Posted April 12 On 4/11/2025 at 12:20 PM, Virginia_Bricks said: Average price is around $65, but what is crazy is some store in HK supposedly has 400 of them. Though most sets they carry they have a crazy number of (100 Mos Eisley Cantina or 100 Hogwarts Express D2C sets). Those are the sellers that are the issue. The ones that just sell their GWP and build the set that came with are fine in my opinion. I wonder how these sellers get a hold of that many sets??? Quote
mirkwoodspiders Posted April 13 Posted April 13 If LOTR is done after The Shire, you are: 1) Upset 2) Indifferent 3) Satisfied 4) ________________. I'm #1. I'm personally in the camp of "I'll buy nearly anything LOTR, possibly even Brickheadz, because I love the theme so much." So, I do hope they're not done yet. Three is better than nothing, but four, or five, or forty would be better than three! Quote
kuzyabricks Posted April 13 Posted April 13 40 minutes ago, mirkwoodspiders said: If LOTR is done after The Shire, you are: 1) Upset 2) Indifferent 3) Satisfied 4) ________________. I'm #1. I'm personally in the camp of "I'll buy nearly anything LOTR, possibly even Brickheadz, because I love the theme so much." So, I do hope they're not done yet. Three is better than nothing, but four, or five, or forty would be better than three! INCREDIBLY upset. This is simply not enough. These sets are pieces of art and only three just isn't enough. Quote
Artanis I Posted April 13 Posted April 13 1, there's still a lot of important stuff they haven't made yet. Quote
MAB Posted April 13 Posted April 13 I would be fairly indifferent but saddened that they failed to get anywhere near full potential again, even though I haven't bought any new sets . I have the original sets and a lot of MOCs, so the new releases don't do a lot for me. Rivendell is beautiful but I didn't buy it as I already had a smaller MOC that fits my display space although I did use LEGO 's design to add the white gazebo type structure. The minifigs did nothing for me. Barad-Dûr is again great but I already have a MOC and the ony thing I bought from that set was Sauron. I like the new ringwraith so I bought some torsos and capes and use Wolfpack's hood to add variety to my existing ringwraiths. The Shire is a massive disappointment for me as I already have an extended Bag End , I think the only thing I'll take from that set is the printed window frames and maybe a minifigure part or two. I would buy a decent minifig based Minas Tirith as it would provide long needed minifigures. I have a bit of a MOC that I never completed partly as I thought we'd never get the minifigs for it to look complete. Denethor was easy, but prints for others are really necessary to fit in with the styles of other figures. And of course the Witch King's helmet. Quote
Black Falcon Posted April 13 Posted April 13 14 hours ago, hikouki said: I wonder how these sellers get a hold of that many sets??? In other countrys Lego isn´t managing their own shops but has them licensed to others and as far as I understand it they buy those sets from Lego and then just sell them on. Basically like a normal retailer, just that they also get the exclusive stuff and gwps. Quote
Lordhelmet Posted April 13 Posted April 13 14 hours ago, mirkwoodspiders said: If LOTR is done after The Shire, you are: 1) Upset 2) Indifferent 3) Satisfied 4) ________________. I'm #1. I'm personally in the camp of "I'll buy nearly anything LOTR, possibly even Brickheadz, because I love the theme so much." So, I do hope they're not done yet. Three is better than nothing, but four, or five, or forty would be better than three! 1. Or 4. (very upset). Not getting Gondor a second time would be the ultimate slap in the face to Lego LOTR fans, especially after hinting it in the first two sets. Could be made up if the minifigures are available through cmf or something else though Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted April 13 Posted April 13 4) Satisfied, but hungry for more The things I wanted the most after LOTR was done in 2013 were Sauron, Barad-dûr, the Balrog, a fell beast, the Witch-King, Eowyn, and a mûmakil. Considering we already got more than half of that in the "reboot", I'm happy, but of course I'd like to see the rest as well Hopefully they see the demand!! Quote
RichardGoring Posted April 13 Posted April 13 4. Not upset, just disappointed. I don't care massively for figures, but what we've had are generally nice and any in the future would likely be the same. My main disappointment would be missing out on some potentially amazing looking sets, with real presence and a terrific build. Quote
hikouki Posted April 13 Posted April 13 4. Perplexed. My main question would be, "Why?" Did the sets not sell as well as Lego anticipated? Did the license run out? Did they run out of ideas? What would be the future of the theme? Quote
mirkwoodspiders Posted April 13 Posted April 13 2 hours ago, hikouki said: 4. Perplexed. My main question would be, "Why?" Did the sets not sell as well as Lego anticipated? Did the license run out? Did they run out of ideas? What would be the future of the theme? Yeah, that'd be a good way to put it. Why stop at three? I'm still nervous about the "trilogy" language they used in the Shire release. It sounds final... Quote
Black Falcon Posted April 13 Posted April 13 3 minutes ago, mirkwoodspiders said: Yeah, that'd be a good way to put it. Why stop at three? I'm still nervous about the "trilogy" language they used in the Shire release. It sounds final... As said before, I wouldn´t put to much into that sentence, since it is only marketing speach and the person that made that very likely hasn´t any idea whether there will be more sets or not anyways ;) Quote
mirkwoodspiders Posted April 13 Posted April 13 22 minutes ago, Black Falcon said: As said before, I wouldn´t put to much into that sentence, since it is only marketing speach and the person that made that very likely hasn´t any idea whether there will be more sets or not anyways ;) I sure hope so :) Maybe it's meant to freak out the customer base and prime us to be even more excited/eager to buy when they (hopefully) release another model or models (beyond the book nook, that is). Quote
hikouki Posted April 13 Posted April 13 (edited) 48 minutes ago, mirkwoodspiders said: Yeah, that'd be a good way to put it. Why stop at three? I'm still nervous about the "trilogy" language they used in the Shire release. It sounds final... 43 minutes ago, Black Falcon said: As said before, I wouldn´t put to much into that sentence, since it is only marketing speach and the person that made that very likely hasn´t any idea whether there will be more sets or not anyways ;) Didn't they say before Rivendell came out that 'more' sets will come if it were successful... and it was! So perhaps their strategy keeps evolving. They only planned for Rivendell, but had the back-up plan of Barad-dur if the former sold well. Maybe The Shire was just the 'last' part of their original idea or back-up plan. Edited April 13 by hikouki Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted April 13 Posted April 13 44 minutes ago, mirkwoodspiders said: Yeah, that'd be a good way to put it. Why stop at three? I'm still nervous about the "trilogy" language they used in the Shire release. It sounds final... There’s also the upcoming book nook, which proves that they already have ideas that go beyond the “trilogy“ of sets Quote
RichardGoring Posted April 14 Posted April 14 Let's not forget that The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy was a trilogy in five parts, so it's possible for them to do anything they want. Quote
TheDoctor Posted April 16 Posted April 16 Had to add some reigns to the cart. I always hated how it looks when a minifigure is just sat behind the horse, not holding anything.... Quote
BigHobbit Posted April 16 Posted April 16 The Hogwarts Express Book Nook set is available in a usual place on this fateful day. So much like book ends, I suspect Gandalf and part of the bridge will be on one side, and the Balrog on the other. The comments section indicated that it will still be a while before we see pictures of the LotR one, though. Quote
THELEGOBATMAN Posted April 16 Posted April 16 Looking at the Harry Potter one, we might be in for a treat. I thought they'd look like cubes with only a small window for the characters, but instead they look like actual dioramas. Really pleasant surprise. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted April 16 Posted April 16 3 hours ago, BigHobbit said: The comments section indicated that it will still be a while before we see pictures of the LotR one, though. Which is strange, considering they‘re both releasing on June 1st 50 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said: […] but instead they look like actual dioramas. Yeah, I prefer bookends over book nooks, especially for the Balrog. The only thing I‘m worried about is that the HE set is only like 6 studs deep, which might be tricky for a full-sized Balrog, assuming the dimensions will be similar… Quote
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