Piratedave84

Vote analysis (Bold are town/confimed, underlined are probably town) Role vote Day 2 Day 3 not much to go on here. I agree that we can't rule out that Theodore isn't scum. I'm enclined to vote Derrick, I think he's the "out in front" scum. I have some reading to do Actually analysis is a big word .. more like vote snapshot ....

Yeah it is; so we can't afford to mis-lynch and I'm not sure if "pings" are good enough ...

I think so yes

Before this gets more out of control; I'm the town cop. I investigated Desiree on night 2 and tried to save her yesterday by trying to build a case on Trenton who I found somewhat scummy ... megabluck. I cop'ed Matthew last night; he flipped town. I'm willing to accept that Theodore is town based on Desiree's tracking results so we have Derrick and Lynn who are not 'cleared'. Derrick has been very vocal with a great level of participation whereas Lynn was more 'tame'; who do we lynch?

Duh, sorry

How are you almost cleared exactly?

Anybody can counterclaim?

DIG YOURSELF OUT for crying out loud Not sure at this point ... leaning Dumb but ...

Common, you know this you chose to ignore it and try and plant that idea. There is no way you are/were not aware that the kill passes on. Well then; much like your vote, try and come up with something, don't just say things you cannot elaborate on. So what's your idea on this? Again; you've seen this, been part of this don't play dumb. ya, go consult and come back Probably you'll kill me, maybe you won't, probably you're scum, maybe you're not! Keep it coming; you're going to slip at some point! The more you talk the less comittal you are; very telling! No, no it's clear the cop should speak with a scum result; we made this clear yesterday. What irks me is that he felt the need to say it again, and again. And then to suggest we make a town block, how? there's no way we can organize and that (i think) was the intent of the host. My point is; there's no reason to discuss moot points or things that were already hashed out. It floods the thread with irrelevant discussion which is turns takes us away from scum hunting.

Yup; Desiree at this point has pretty much given up on defending herself.

Are you feeling the presure? I'm one person, your comment makes me feel better about my scrutinizing you; why do feel my scrutinizing you means the town rallied against you? I mean I know I'm town ... how do you know I'm town? so ... you have not played (or hosted ) since then? You should know this; don't play innocent! You cannot tell us that you were unaware the kill gets passed on; liar. Really? its the same thing litterally every time! So yes, you were trying to get the cop to out themselves. You spoke of a town block earlier, just how do you figure this can happen? It is, it is too easy and by experience, when it's this easy and votes are pouring in without a cop result, it's usualy misplaced. 1- You don't have an opinion and would rather sheep the vote than make up your own conclusions is what you're saying. 2 - How do you know this? Maybe scum can only kill every other night, maybe one of us is bulletproof, maybe .., maybe a lot of things actually. Your certainty regarding the kill does not look good on you. 3 - Why are scum not at stake? You seem to know we are mis-lynching today. Don't get cocky!

Even if he never was scum; when has he scum ever stopped killing? Hardly ever, that's when. I feel the bandwagon for Desiree is too quick-forming and I fear we may be lynching someone over being an overreacting noob. I'm going to vote: Trenton Collins (JackJonespaw) I'm not quite sure why but it seems that Trenton was phishing for info from the cop from his first post. It also seems he is quick to agree with everybody whilst being non-committal. I'm open to changing my vote but I'm not going to vote for Desiree, not today; it seems too easy. So, 1) where are your reasons for voting Desiree? 2)if you're not sure, you should not vote. You're the one who pointed out we were 5 town left so why jeopardize is more by voting when you are not sure of the validity of your vote? 3)someone already asked and you failed to answer; why would Desiree's lynch mean your death?

Sorry I was absent today, RL kicked my megablocks!! Really? The kill usually gets passed over. What makes you think scum will loose the kill? If you are town, you need to shut up or change your approach because every single time you post, you look scummier and scummier. I'm leaning noob on Desiree for now but you'd better shape up if you want to live.

Can't wait !! I've been thinking about this and I can't figure a way for the cop to reveal their results without compromising themselves. The best bet is for them to wait to catch scum and then to claim and reveal the results which will inevitably result in their death.

I posted this in day 2 ... because I'm an idiot! - - - Alec posted 4 times, his posts were relatively non-commital and he was on my short list of potential scummos for today for being wishy-washy. Target of opportunity? Meta-Killed?

Alec posted 4 times, his posts were relatively non-commital and he was on my short list for today for being wishy-washy. Target of opportunity? Meta-Killed? FML ... sorry

megabluck Carla why'd you have to be so scummy. I wonder what might have led to Alec's death

Yes, yes we do! We can't stand here and do nothing while scum is definitely (well almost certainly) will kill one of us tonight. I've always advocated for a day one lynch and this time is no different. Frankly it was either Desiree or Carla for me. I'm glad to see someone scrutinize Desiree as well. Desiree was also playing along yesterday; her sheepish behaviour and insistence we get a doctor are making me suspicious of her.

Hahahahaha! Your vote for me is based on my wanting to lynch the scummiest person; priceless. I'm certainly not meta-voting you based on your experience and my comment about your activity was targeted at Matthew who somehow thought you had participated a lot yesterday; your concerns about a comment made to another layer are duly noted though! It sucks it has to be you but we need a lynch today, you are (as far as I'm concerned) our best bet given your comments about the kill mechanics and now your OMGUS vote just reinforces my point.

You know what I mean, you've seen it before; scum can sometimes choose which action they submit and I think this was the case here as in if the strongarm submits a kill then the doctor is useless. Your slip up reinforces my position on this point. Is this not the goal of this? Find who is scummiest and lynch them? Sorry for wanting to make this situation progress ... vote: Carla (Dragonator) You're trying to accuse me of accusing you after you gave details on the scum kill which went beyond game-mechanic assumptions/speculation. Carla is active? Here? Where? She barely showed up and if you look it up, both times she slipped up ...

10 hours with no comments ... Is this for real? Is everyone's minds made up? What's happening? I want to lynch Carla, what about you guys?

I see your point. I however thought it meant that they could opt to kill amongst other possible NA; as in the same person kills but thay can pick another NA if they choose. Oh .. I voted for tracker ... I should have known ... well the point is still semi-valid. As someone else pointed out, the watcher and tracker can both be used to our advantage. Given that the no-NA message was said along the voting results for the town PR, I thought it only applied to us, not scum.

I think that night one was a no-NA night regardless of affiliation. This being said; is it possible that scum could also have had to choose their roles during the night phase? It seems a bit crazy but think about it, from a balance stand point it makes sense. There could not be more than 3 scum and to give them a fighting chance, they could have had to pick NA's based on the ones we picked during the day which in turn balances out their NA versus ours? Is this crazy? but we don't have to use the watcher to protect the cop since we don't know who they are; for the time being, it's an offense role seeing it's investigative (to some extent). The problem is when we will need to 'protect' the cop; then we will need to use the role in a defensice function. I think it's a good thing we have a watcher because it will/could eventually allow us to 'protect' the cop one more night phase if he/she ever needs to claim.

No night kill, that's a very good thing! Now let's get down to business; I want to lynch Carla; yesterday she said 2 things that rub me the wrong way: (Can't direct quote due to topic being locked) 1) post 47 (Bold added for emphasis) 2) post 64 (Bold added for emphasis) Carla, we asked you several times yesterday to explain this. So let me ask one more time; why do you think the scum can change their kill and choose who kills?

I'm speechless; on the one hand it's a fantastic and very deeply personal MOC and on the other it's a tragic situation which led to the creation of this MOC. Good job to the builder