Jo Baer
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It's Jo!! I figured you'd like seeing us talk in there
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There's a number of reasons why that is a bad idea. Let's say Carl has the ability to both block and kill, and manages to block the vig? Or what if he has some way to protect himself? Why should we take that risk? No, I say we lynch the biggest suspect and leave Brice for tomorrow if need be.
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Yeah, where is John, and why hasn't he voted yet? And it seems like Carl has given up now. Aren't you going to even vote for me?
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About time we got a vote tally! I was beginning to loose track
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If there is, let's bake Carl in it! Vote: Carl Andre
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He sure chose an odd way for a defense, I wonder who would back him up? Him choosing this path just makes me even more certain he's the scum we're looking for. Brice's claim however is not far fetched. Our host is known to use PGOs. He did allude to knowing something about roles in this game yesterday, so I expected him to have some form of role if he was town.
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Except you're not...
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He has one thing going for him, and that is that he's been arguing with Robert, a confirmed scum, since day 1. However, we do not know if that has all been staged, or is genuine. He has not contributed anything else that I can recall that helps us determine his allegiance. The only thing we know with high confidence is that either Carl or Brice is scum. Unless of course there are more than 1 scum left, in which case they might both be... Everyone else is confirmed through different means, at least enough for them not to be on any suspect list right now. So, Brice, Carl, maybe it's time you both tell us exactly why you are not scum and why we should not vote for you?
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Are you being funny? Who led the lynch on Dan yesterday? And why do you need to know who's claiming vigilante? Need to know who to kill tonight, is that it?
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Well then, looks like we're finally on top of things here! And it looks like we have a vig after all, good work there . Funny that we almost had a tied lynch between two scum yesterday .
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You think I'm unemployed? Haha, don't make me laugh. I'm just trying to make an effort, that's all. Which is more than some others... I know I haven't led any scum lynches, and I'm not asking you to follow me like a sheep either, just participate and add your opinion, so we can get more to work with. I don't think we really want anyone else to share anything more in public that should be kept private. If someone wants to counterclaim to have been blocked, please do so in private to someone you trust, so we don't out any more power roles... And likewise, we don't want any more careless sharing of who's in a trusted circle, or how much talking is going on or not. That will only help scum figure out who to kill.
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How about trying to help us see anything better? Instead of just waiting for everyone else to do the work for you... We're in the last third of the day. You've not had time to look through things from days past and add any opinions yet, but you're going to do it before the day ends? I'm not holding my breath...
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Yes, I did read your post for today, I even quoted it. And I feel that you have been back and forth on what you think, whithout providing proper reasons for why you change your opinion. And today, you are under heat, and this is all you can say. You're still not trying to help us find scum here. You're just telling us you think John is town and that you're backing off Eva. Ok then Dan, who is your number one suspect now? You must have some opinion on the matter. Because to me it looks like you're just trying to go with the popular opinion on things. And I see people are hopping on to vote for you, not sure what to read into that... This is the first day that the votes haven't been split (at least not yet)...
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Ok, I've looked back, and my number one suspect right now is Dan. Apart from the fact that he suddenly stopped being vocal after day 1, these following posts show some glaring inconsistencies: Here he's brushing away the accusations on Tony and Frank, and even avoiding saying anything about John, although he seems to think the tie was just something to note, and John was involved very much in the tie. He does not seem to want to pursue a case on any of them. Now, suddenly, both Tony and John have pinged him in the past, and he casts his vote for John. And then this is all he has said so far today. Now he has suddenly been town-reading John since the beginning... What the hell? Why did you vote for him yesterday then? I think it's time to try and get Dan to speak up some more. Vote: Dan Flavin
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Oh, there are people here now! The only way I see John lying about the investigator, is if scum know for a fact that the real investigator is already dead. So either the investigator has blabbed to the wrong person, scum have a role cop, or John is telling the truth. I think looking elsewhere is a good idea, we've been a bit tunneled on what happened on the first day, it's time to look beyond. I see others are bringing up Dan. I too have had some doubts about him since day 2. He was vocal and seemed town on day 1, but then seemed to draw back more and ride the wave on day 2. I'll need to look back more at what happened on day 2, in light of what we know now.
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Where is everyone?
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Hm, this is not looking good . Helpful tip for the future Tony: when you're town and being lynched, fight it, and try to actually help out! Now, as for Frank getting killed, I'm a bit surprised. He was not overly vocal, he cast his vote late yesterday just hopping on the Tony lynch. People were scrutinizing him for tying the vote with Eva. Heck, he might have become a lynch target, so why would scum kill him? Could they have believed he had a night action? Or were they killing off one of the people who were suspecting Eva? Now, I know that wasn't the case with Sol and Tony, but that doesn't mean it isn't the case this time. Maybe they even think they can get away with it now, because we lynched Tony and he flipped town. It'd be really good if we had any actual evidence here. There must be some investigative roles among us. Now is the time to start sharing. You should have been able to find someone to trust by now. Please help us shed some light on all this.
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How about sharing your thoughts with us? You're not helping by just keeping it to yourself.
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Thanks for the vote breakdown Anne. I'm trying to make sense of the whole John, Eva, Ellsworth voting, and it just doesn't add up for me that John could be scum at the same time as either of them. Eva voted first for John, and very early in the day. I guess that could have been an attempt at them distancing themselves from each other early on, but in that case I'd say it backfired... and I don't see scum pulling that so early on day 1, when everyone is jumpy and it's common that a bandwagon starts easily from just a single badly justified vote. Then Ellsworth votes John 3rd, which could be seen as a scum trying to get early into a bandwagon, and especially if it's for a teammate, bussing early makes one look more townie. But then John voted for Eva to tie the votes, which would be a bit strange if they are both scum and both getting votes... And then he suddenly decides to vote for Ellsworth instead, which again would not make sense at that time if they were both scum. So I can only assume that John didn't switch his vote to Ellsworth to save a scum buddy in Eva. While it's likely that John is scum and was being desperate about getting out of a lynch, I think it's unlikely that Eva or Ellsworth is scum if John is scum. But if he was scum, you'd think that his teammates could help him do the math . Lynching John might help us get some answers about all this, but I'm still more suspicious of Tony. I was suspicious of him yesterday, and he's not helping his case today... It would also put to rest the questions of if Sol was killed to silence the suspicions against him. I'm going to Vote: Tony Smith again, for now. Tony, if you're town, please start helping out.
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I wondered about that too, but didn't go back to count the votes, and just assumed I remembered incorrectly how many people had voted for Eva. That's a plausible theory. You would think he actually went back to double check the vote count since his life was on the line... He could have feared that people would start unvoting Eva, so he wanted to secure a tie with someone who was gaining momentum rather than losing it.
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I doubt we have an unlimited vig at least. If we have a vig, it's more likely that he has a limited number of shots. Knowing our host, I say it's equally likely we have a bomb or some other such role as a vig. If you want to look at what roles were included in a similarly sized game by the same host in the past, look at Steampunk mafia.
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Hm, Sol was pretty middle of the pack yesterday. Not overly vocal, but not hiding in the shadows either. I'm guessing he was picked because middle of the pack guys are less likely to be protected so early on, but perhaps also because he may have been on to something. Tony was already rubbing me the wrong way yesterday, and Sol seemed to see it the same way. But we can't discount the fact that it's a way to try and frame Tony, who with his lack of useful insight so far would be an easy target for framing today... And so begin the mindgames...
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Ok, finally had some time to properly read through what's been said, and I'd like to just point out some of the statements that have stood out to me. This need to state very clearly that something that already obviously is wildly speculating in fact is wildly speculating stood out to me as a bit strange. Almost pre-defensive... This was said in response to Brice obviously joking and wildly speculating based on the images provided. Struck me as strange to feel this was something to go on. And if it's so far fetched, why is it something to go on? No shit! None of us do! Stating the obvious, and in fact really stating nothing at all. Just talk that isn't even talk. This was said long after the discussion on this was already over. And I've already pointed this statement out... I'm not the first to point this one out. Comes off as very odd. It was never between John and a no-lynch, at least not at that time. And it even comes after saying that people are lynching eachother for saying stupid stuff . But then it just seems odd to me that a scum would stand out like a sore thumb like this, especially when a majority is not needed... Unless someone else with votes against them is a scum, and this was an attempt to push things in another direction Oh, another Tony statement! Says nothing of note, but claims gut feelings against three people, then votes for one of them based on not liking how she acts, and apparently trying to slide in with the crowd in not liking the bandwagon against John... Ok, Tony wins my vote, with 3 posts that have stood out to me (and unless I've missed something, I think that's pretty much all he's said today...) Vote: Tony Smith
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I'm sorry, what? You call that being abrasive, insulting, mocking? You don't think you're overreacting just a little bit here? If you haven't noticed, spewing useless theories is a good way for scum to appear active without helping, I called him out on that, and did not use any foul words, but I feel you are using some harsh words against me now, for no good reason. I don't see why you would feel the need to defend him like that, unless the two of you are better friends than the rest of us ... What excatly do you want me to provide my input on? All I see is meaningless day 1 banter, people being accused for nothing substancial. Some people role-playing, some people getting accused for being quiet. All very common, nothing very scummy. And this so called "bandwagon" of a whoopping 3 votes. You think scum is "hiding" in there? Unlikely, as it is unwise for scum to stick their necks out on a non-substantial bandwagon so early. Now, as for my own vote, I'm going to think about it a little bit more while I review the events so far more thoroughly, even though it's hard to spot anything properly scummy on day 1s.
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You're joking right? Please tell me you don't really think our works of art have anything to do with our allegiance? Then we could all just google each other, find the artworks our color schemes are based on, and get the list of scum. Yeah, not going to help.
