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Or maybe it is just part of your anti rock people prejudice ^^. I'd say , would it be so hard to make an Alien cadet for SP3 ? Just change the head... And it would fix it . At least now even though all humans are good not all aliens would be bad.

Well, when I see that pic which you linked all I see is a variation in color which could be because of different plants not using the same tints. But the purple bricks don't have that aura of crappiness I got to see in things from the so-called extended line. Like the board games' figs. It could be that the purple bricks pic was not a good example but the plastic just looks discolored and not translucid. Most of the recent sets I got were bionicle though so I am not sure about it. I did notice that the Skrall blades which are composed of two different kinds of plastic have that crappy feel in the inner color though, even there the transluscency is not nearly as bad as clone brands (not talking megabloks but Chinese clones, never seen a bloks' box in my whole life) The figs from the board games do look to have the same ultra bad translucency as the clone brands. So although I admit the quality seems bad in those purple bricks, it is not nearly as bad as what the ambassador called the extended line. --- Series 3 speculation/wishlist: * There's a terror sub-theme going on. I'd think of mommies or maybe frankeinstein. * The mage needs an assistant. * First, we need a sportsman and I still insist in that a soccer player would be good considering the year. * I'd like a barbarian warrior. * sci-fi seems missing from series 2. I'd like an alien, something like the current alien cliche - gray body, black large eyes, no noise... * Fiddle player?

What I don't like about the email is why would LEGO put their logo on something that is not meant to follow LEGO's quality standards and is not made by LEGO at all. I mean, corporate image is supposed to be important... Something other companies do is have two logos for two differently focused qualities of products, perhaps LEGO should begin doing that for these 'extended line' things? And there are quality issues in sets outside the extended line. But they do not tend to be as bad as the magnet sets. Discoloration is annoying but it is not as horrible as the bad plastic. Something that bugged me though were the toy story minifigs' plastic.

Just about everyone who has had a close contact with the bags says that it is impossible to feel the contents of the bag. Perhaps if you use brute force and damage the bag in the process... good luck doing that in a store...

All real deal space has to offer is 30 years of doing nothing at all besides sending some guys to the moon, and perhaps the mars rover. There has been so many mars sets lately that I'd rather not see mars in at least 5 years... Anything else like exploring unknown planets is not real deal space anymore and it is quite fantasious. I think city used to have some realistic space elements. A real shuttle sounds like a good set to have every once in a while.

Were the toy story figs part of the extended line?

Isn't the leader of the rebels that "It's a trap!" squid guy? SP3 has droids on their side!

Specism ? All LEGO non-city themes nowadays have good humans vs. bad non-humans. We have the trolls in castle, the stone monsters in power miners and I think exo force fought with robots. also, if anything old space police was more racist with all those BLACKtrons being the bad guys!

I wonder if there will be a series 3.

The kid you are talking about seems to behave like an adult collector. The reality is that the kids will be fine with trying 2 or 4 times per series. Then the next series will come and they will focus on it. That's how kids' collectible fads work, they don't really need/want to collect them all they just want to do what the rest of the kids are doing and hope to get a fig they like or to trade with their pals... Notice: The whole point of this is the trading part, if you don't like it just don't buy the figs. If you as a parent don't like it, don't buy them for your kid. It is easy... There are no indications they will stop selling series 1 once series 2 comes. -- What's off-topic in regards to this thread? Discussion about whether random is better or not for these minifig packs does not seem off-topic to me. And showing sadness for the use of bad plastic in these figs does not seem so either. So, if off-topic is going to be punished, please specify what's exactly off-topic. Else I'll guess it is with that guy's constant attempt to prove LEGO are evil or something like that. I doubt it. From the instructions it appears that even including specific instructions for each fig was hard enough, so it does not look like they would have individual bags for each of them. It would also kill the random stuff and whether it is a good thing or not, LEGO seems to have intended to make them random.

I think it should say question 16.

And all this time I thought it was a Danish toy company ... Are you the guy that uses the word 'fanboi'? this is an adult forum so please avoid leet speak, it is cute when you are 13 to 15 years old but it gets lame afterwards. You keep trying to come up with attacks like fanbois or anti-intellectual, please focus on the actual argument and points. There is a large difference between being part of an elite and being an elitist. I would have rather had the accessories in bad plastic and the figs in normal. Bad plastic figs = limeish color instead of yellow = ugly. I care because in my case I really can't help but notice the odd gloss of the bad plastic, generally everything on it looks awful to me. I also care because bad plastic tends to last a lot less than the usual LEGO quality and the announced price is just not justified if the plastic is bad quality. I think this is a much more real and serious issue than 'marketing gimmicks' so I hope that those pushing to continue the discussion about the randomization could get over it and let us focus on the plastic quality...

Except that years after 2010, kids that collected them will get piles of minifigs and pieces useful for MoCs, hence LEGO is setting a good example on how to do random collectibles well.

No, not really, not at all. First of all you call it 'deceitful packaging' when the bags clearly have all sorts of question signs and makes it clear it is randomized. If you mean that you should be able to see what's in the packaging, seriously that would suck and would be terrible as a collectible. AFOL maniacs would wipe the really good figs from stores and kids would have no access to them. Baseball cards just suck in that they have no actual use beyond being collectible. These guys are figures. No self-respecting AFOL will get incredibly disappointed to get any of these figs as if it was the end of the world. Each of the figs does come with a unique thing you won't find elsewhere. And repeats are not a tragedy either, at the end of the day, even if you get extremely unlucky you are buying minifigs with new elements... The whole point of this kind of collectible is not knowing what you are getting. It makes getting it more exciting, as always if you don't like the uncertainty get them from bricklink or something. If these were see through, I bet you that the most awesome figs would banish from shelves very quickly and you would be paying even more in bricklink. This is not an offense to fans. It is actually fan service they are doing and notice that they happen to be two sets per season, out of the zillions of sets they are releasing that won't have any 'deceitful' packaging and you'll still be able to buy, so as a fan I am not even remotely offended by this idea. It is also a great way to join more markets. There are kids who crave for collecting in this style, and this will help them know more of LEGO, a percentage of them will grow up to be AFOLs. What would offend me would be that they used bad plastic for these figs. But that's a different topic and that would be a real blatant disrespect to the fans and kids that would possibly be interested in these guys. -- I think it is confirmed tha teach box contains at least one of each fig. So buying a box gives you a 100% chance to get them all. Of course, 60 figs for 180$us is a little crazy when you could buy an emerald night or grand emporium for less... But I think you could sell the ones you don't want. I consider these things as more of a promotion. Go to the toy store, buy one and get a random fig. Repeat. Collecting them all or trying to get the fig you want will be very expensive. but it seems fun buying a couple of random figs and seeing what you get.

plenty of bags have already been manufactured, it is unlikely LEGO would just pull them out now. However, about the shovel, my mind is strange and at first I assumed the right one was the new mold and was thinking it was the one with the worse quality... The scratch though is a bad sign, a very bad one .

Or for the really big ones :)

Well, the fig didn't come prebuilt. Perhaps even if they come from China they could use good plastic WON'T LOSE HOPE. If the plastic is bad it would be such a disappointment... Maybe I am fooled by my optimism but the plastic does not seem bad from the pics. I wonder if the packaging has hints of what the rare figs are, zombie and the skydiver don't even appear in there yet both were the first the guy got. Maybe the Astronaut and the Apache are the rarest with the ninja being less rare and the other depicted in the bag are the medium-rarity ones.

Yes, if these come in bad plastic I won't get any and I hope it hurts LEGO's image enough that they will have to stop doing it. But I hope not, and the price does not seem to suggest so (these are not cheaper than impulse sets and those come with actual bricks on it, so these figs are actually more expensive than your average fig) If they used bad plastic for these they would have at least used a lower price, if not it will be terrible for their image. Blah, if anything this is great fan service (assuming the plastic is good). If you don't like not knowing what you are getting, you are free to buy any of the other sets.

The point is that these are in ways more evil than impulse sets. I think I will just end up buying a bag every time I go pick a real set, in the hopes to get a robot. The lesson I learned when young about collectibles was "Don't waste money on that! you will lose interest eventually. You could be saving that money up to buy LEGO" , that places me on a dilemma...

The yellow is so out of place, I just hope it is some sort of prototype idiosyncrasy.

Rex! -- I think it is a safe bet we won't see barbies or Mr. Potato head or other assets to LEGO's competitors in this theme.

If anything, being able to see what the contents are will make things harder for children. The AFOL's out there who really want many amounts of the same fig have a lot more time in advance and a lot money to actually cleanse the stores from these figs. By the time kids start learning about these collectibles they will have to conform with just having a skydiver army...

Surge is the blue one. It might even be an artifact with the pic or some swing effect I doubt the electricity can split like that.

It is not like without LEGO minifigs they wouldn't be exposed to this lesson. And I'd rather prefer they do it with minifigs which can be recycled and given plenty of uses if you get the one you weren't looking for or get tired of collecting them than with those zillions of card games out there in which the collectibles will get pretty useless once the kid grows out of them . As a kid I had to deal with collectibles and I doubt there's anyone in this world who hasn't dealt with these things as a kid. And quite possibly so, those who haven't are probably now having issues since they weren't given the chance to learn about those things as kids. Besides, kids are less likely to be genuinely interested in collecting them all or in having very specific targets.

Way to reduce the argument to the absurd.Dealing with random collectibles is fun. There is the whole gambling experience and having to trade with others to get the whole collection, so it is a social experience as well. If you make them see through you remove the random part of it and it becomes once again into going to the store hoping that they still have the one you want and then finding out they don't but have some which you didn't like. But LEGO already has that, and in pretty large amounts... If you just want some figs go ahead and purchase them from bl. Worried about the prize being too high? If the packages were see-through it would even be less likely to get them and thus they would get more expensive in bl. LEGO would not make a whole new wave repeating them with fixed amounts to match demand. That would be a bad business move in which you hurt the value of your own collectibles, instead they will do a second wave with different mini-figs.