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well, since voting is now open, I'm gonna vote:Charles Synclair/ Callmepie mainly because of the way he was acting yesterday, and partly because I don't want to get killed today . He seems the most likely werewolf to me.

thanks, but I am no where near an accomplished playwright such as yourself.

So you would rather have me, a villager, sit idly by while a supposed werewolf is on the hot seat? Ain't gonna happen sister, and I don't think it's a small amount of suspicion, it looks like Charles has quite a few points against him. and I thought we already decided I was a poor tactician

Yeah, we know, you stated that very clearly in your many defenses for Zed "I'm not trying to defend Zed, But i'm gonna defend him by saying you guys are rushing into voting" Actually that is untrue on both accounts, the voice in the sky restated that there might be consequenses for not convicting, and after the first couple of votes were cast, nothing could have changed Zeds fate, so If you really thought he was a villager you wouldn't have voted, but you knew it would look suspicious on you, so you voted anyways, and your vote didn't even make a difference so there was no point to it except allowing you to fall back on it today, but it didn't prove very useful now did it? Wait, I might be reading this wrong, but if you didn't think he was a villager, why were you opposed to voting for him for so long until the end when id didn't matter anymore, I'm probably definitely reading that wrong though cause it makes no sense whatsoever I'm gonna let Harriet answer that one, but I think that now since there on to a different lead, it's best not to play all her cards at once and just pick these werewolves off one by one, and not let them know shes onto them.

I have to say, I'm loving Harriets "plays" they're putting a smile on my face every time I read them, even if they are accusing me

exactly what happened to me! Which is why I defended him so vigorously. I thought he was innocent and thats why I defended him, I din't think I would look guilty because I thought he would turn out to be innocent. stupid, stupid, stupid Whereas Charles seems more suspicious to me, like he already knew Zed's true allegiance, thats why he was so on and off about voting for Zed, "I'm with you guys, but I'm gonna defend Zed" I think Charles is likely to be a werewolf.

Thank god you can finally see whats going on , no but thats how it happened, believe it or don't, but I am a villager and thats all there is to it, But I'm glad you brought out the evidence against Charles, He went under my radar yesterday, but his actions are very troubiling indeed, so there are three options for voting today Charles Me Person number 4 I think we have enough evidence against Charles, and enough supposed evidence against myself, So I think we should start discussing this mystery person number four, cause it seems obvious enough that he is lying to your face Harriet. The evidence is that Charles voted for Zed, but was still defending him, and how he tried to make it clear in all his defences that he was not defending Zed, but preceded to state flaws in Dacious and Harriets rationale.

sorry for having a brain I guess, I thought any person with the least bit of sense could see that , has no one read the fact that these numbers aren't based on anything! I've said that at least three times and it seems no one gives a damn, your bending my words! Heres what actually happened, and I'll try to put it in a atyle that you could actually understand Scene 1- Building an alliance Adam: La Da Da, De Do, hmm, I guess now is as good a time as any to start building an alliance, do da do do do, hmm, who to sart with, I guess I could just do this systematically, lets start with the police force cause I am part of that police force. Hey Chief! Chief: Yeah, Adam? By the way I have a night action. Adam: Oh hey Chief, hows it going? DOn't tell people you have a night action, it could make you a target, lets discuss Zed, I'm unsure what to think so far Chief: Yeah, me too, I am unsure, I've got to go reveal to everyone I have a night action now though, bye Adam: Uh... Okay by I guess, Now lets go talk to me fellow constable, Hey Dacious! Dacious: .... Adam: Huh, he must be a very busy man, I'll leave it up to him as to when he wants to respond Scene 2- Enter the werewolf Adam: La Da Do Do Do, Still unsure what to do do do Zed: Hey meaty fellow, you look like a nice guy, Listen I've got something I need to tell you, I'm a busy man, I've got schooling and exams and junk and I gazed over the rules quickly and foolishly, but theres more, I've got a night role that is pretty powerful, you see, I am the protector, I use my books and If an enemy tries to hurt someone I read one of my many stories and It makes them run away. Also this Dacious Guy doesn't know what he's talking about, he's bringing up those stupid odds that don't make much sense, and these timestamps are all made up, I think there all werewolves. Adam: Hmm, that sounds like a reasonable argument, I shall stupidly defend you to the death, but first let me talk to my trusted friend the chief. Hey Cheif Chief: Hey adam, I'm thinking of voting for Dacious Adam: what a coincidence! I think Dacious is a werewolf too Chief: Yeah, he just seems to eager to vote Adam: I don't think we can vote for him today though, I'm gonna make long arguments against him and then tomorrow, if Zeds innocent we have all this evidence against him, don't vote for him though because it's pointless and will make you look suspicious. Chief: sounds good, I'm gonna go vote for him now Adam: Okay... I'm gonna go see If I can get info out of Dacious by threatening him, maybe that will bring forward new info Dacious: Oh hey adam, haven't responded cause I never really liked you, but we can keep this channel open to discuss werewolves and how to kill them and stuff Adam: Can it, I know what you are, and when Zed is proved innocent tomorrow, Imma Gonna Kill you Dacious: Well okay then, but I'm sure Hes guilty, I can't persuade you so this conversation is over Scene 3- The lynchers and the Lynchee Zed: Hey adam! Adam: Hey Zed! Zed: hey listen, everyones voting against me, I need you to just defend me to the death okay! Cause I am innocent and it will make you look good Adam: Will do! *voting commences, everyone votes for Zed* Adam: well I defended you but it's not looking good for you, are you sure your innocent Zed: Sure, now let me just have a nibble of your arm. Adam: huh, okay, but I don't see what that has to do with anything Scene 4- werewolf no more Adam: So Zed was a werewolf, well thats just applesauce, now I've got a big target over my head, better go apologize to Dacious before tomorrow, Hey Dacious I' sorry, I got played for a suck, friends again? Dacious: well someones beating me with a pick ax so I can't really say anything on that matter anymore, good luck though! Adam: Applesauce Thats what happened, and I guess it challenges the fact to whether I have a brain or not. But thats the truth, don't care, so be it.

I have to say some people have no class, I think it's terrible that you would even think to rip off someones design, I would imagine some hours of building and rebuilding had gone into this. That sucks, I wonder what he will reply with. If it makes you feel any better, he collects meggablucks and he has a terrible taste in music

I am not person number 2, I have had no private conversations with Harriet as of yet, and Harriet can confirm this.

Well 2 or so was just a range I made up, hence the "or so". We know that Zed wasn't the only werewolf, or else this ordeal would be over, so I guess I should have said 1 or more, but no more then like 4, I'm just speculating, these are by no means real numbers. And to go on with your second point, I already stated what you had just said earlier today... But I thought you read it and thought it was just another stupid thing coming out of my mouth and therefore disregarded it and we had decided it was a third faction. no I am not defending person number 4, I do not even know who person number four is, I was writing that before Harriet even performed her play, and when I was done and spoke it, she was already done. By all means Im anxious to know who this person number four is now so that we can vote someone out who could actually be a werewolf. I was going on the info before that since there appears to be no werewolf killing last night, I would assume that a conversion took place behind closed doors. But in light of recent events, Harriet's evidence seems more convincing then my speculation. I am assuming that they opted to convert last night because there was a fault in their numbers so early in the game, usually in these plays, a bad guy is not found in the first scene, and then a killing is followed in the night, but since there was no killing, and we did find a werewolf on the first day, I would assume the werewolves converted last night to increase there numbers back to their original. As for "two or so" that was just a range I threw out there, these are no real numbers and have no basis of fact to them! I was just using them to prove a point, but oh well, it seems everything I say now has suspicion peppered all over it. Sorry I'm sounding like a broken record here, but theres only so many times I can repeat the truth!

I'm not sure I follow you, I only said that since there is no proof of a third faction besides "You win when all factions besides the Village have been eradicated" you see the word from god doesn't state that there is more then the werewolf faction we are up against, but it also doesn't state that we are only up against the werewolves so since there is no other proof of a third faction, I think it would be an impartial, sorry If I confused you.

This was because I was starting to build an alliance with people in the police force, my trusted allies, I'll also have you know that If you look at "timestamps" this was before I had any suspicion of Dacious at all. I think the whole fact of me contacting you kinda implies trust, It's not like I said, "hey don't trust me, but tell me what I want to know" And If my memory serves me correctly you replied "Hey Adam, First off, I have not yet spoken to Draggy privatly but I know of someone who has, does this have anything to do with anything? Ebenezer" to which I replied "not really, I thought that if there was a chance of starting an alliance, I would begin with the members of the police force which I am a part of, I have tried to contact Draggy but no go so far. I'm waiting for suspicions to come in, what do you think of Zed in the game thread? Innocent or guilty? right now I'm unsure, but it would be interesting to see what truns up if he is convicted." Looking back there was bad grammer with me answering "not really" but the Chief can confirm this was my reply. Note that this was before Zed had contacted me and I was still unsure what to think of him. I'm sorry, but I was following my instincts and I didn't think this conviction was so black and white, turns out I was wrong and it was black and white, so sue me. I already had this thought before If you look back at my lengthy speeches of defence, it seems possible. So that may be something to take into consideration. I agree with you on this, or instead of an impartial it could be a third group all together. But seeing as how there is no info suggesting a third faction, I woul deal with this as I would with an impartial. Well the first slip yp was something that I felt wasn't a good enough reason to vote, as many others agreed, I thought it was an easy mistake for one to make so already I'm having doubts, then there was some evidence of timestamps which could have easily been made up seeing as there was no way to directly quote them, all there was was that play by Harriet, which In my book didn't seem like evidence, but entertainment. And yes I did not vote that day because of how I felt, if you go back and reread the private conversation I had with the Chief I said this "I am all for it, but it seems the bandwagon has started against Zed, and with that I suggest we hold off on voting for now and if Zed turns out to be innocent tomorrow thats more evidence we have against him, which will increase our chances of rallying to vote him out, So hold off, and by the slim chance that Zed is werewolf, you will not be suspected for voting for someone else. I have talked to Dragonator and told him that he was most likely a werewolf and that I would be starting the bandwagon tomorrow against him if Zed is innocent, so with that, If I die I need you to start the bandwagon tomorrow okay." because I still believed Dacious to be a werewolf You can see how I tried to protect the chief and told him to vote for someone else rather then Dacious because I was starting to second guess myself, this was after Zed came to me with his story. This coupled with the fact that when the chief talked to me and said "I was at first definatly going to vote him off but now I am not so sure, he just mis~read his role and even I didn't see anything about factions till Harriet pointed it out and I took another look. I am not going to vote for him when the time comes. However at times like this I do feel it is good to have friends and build alliances, It gives us a chance to disscuss things and put information together to solve a problem. Therefore I too would like an alliance with you, the only thing is though that I would not feel comfortable revealing my role to you yet. I cannot talk more now because of exahaustion but tommorrow we can discuss the issue further. Yours Ebenezer " note here he is talking about not voting for Zed, which I felt to, but he also clearly stated to me that he had a night role, to which I replied "Yeah me too I feel the same way, I could have just as easily asked that question and now have my nose to the grindstone And as a piece of advice, when someone contacts you, don't tell them that you have a role/ night action, cause you just told me and If I was scum you would be knee deep in trouble . So just watch out next time, don't reveal your role, and don't tell anyone you have a role. It's the safest way to stay alive, I'll talk to you later today." I told him that he shouldn't contact someone and even whisper the fact that he had a night role, I tried to help him as best I could but he didn't take my advice yesterday and he still told the whole world he had a night action! I tried my best to protect him because by the chance that Zed was a werewolf, he wouldn't be brought under the spotlight. This I'm gonna have to answer in bold so that everyone reads it There was no werewolf killing last night, I believe that a conversion took place because a werewolf being voted out on the first day would have dropped the werewolves numbers greatly, as of now there might be only 2 or so werewolves here and they need to rebuild there numbers, this is most likely why we haven't seen a werewolf kill last night. I said reasonable speech because I was unsure whether or not I could speak of private conversations. But in essence that reasonable speech was a strong night action and a sob story about his "real life" And yes, I am saying that I should've seen how many holes were in it, I'm stupid, are you happy now? I AM STUPID, alas you do prove a point that casts the seed of doubt into my actions, which inevitably make them useless in defending me. The reason I did not answer before Is because I was talking with Harriet about the pick ax killer and my suspicions, coupled with Harriet beating down on me with her accusations, sorry If I missed the question asked before, but I have answered it now, but my lateness has again tainted it with doubt. Yeah I have to agree that option 1 is the only reasonable option, Zed told me he was a protecter and that is a powerful role, but also when you announce yourself as a protector, you can't protect yourself in the night, so thats why Harriet can't announce all the people claiming to be protectors because the werewolves will be able to see which of the three is not them, and therefore easily be able to kill them, that is why it's up to harriets keen detective work to single out the one that is lying, and if that doesn't work out, you always have me to fall back on

Well I never said he made threats, but in our discussion he said "What do you think about me voting Dragonator, I just feel that he is working too hard and is not taking into account anything but his side of the argument, that is a werewolf trait." to which I replied "I am all for it, but it seems the bandwagon has started against Zed, and with that I suggest we hold off on voting for now and if Zed turns out to be innocent tomorrow thats more evidence we have against him, which will increase our chances of rallying to vote him out, So hold off, and by the slim chance that Zed is werewolf, you will not be suspected for voting for someone else. I have talked to Dragonator and told him that he was most likely a werewolf and that I would be starting the bandwagon tomorrow against him if Zed is innocent, so with that, If I die I need you to start the bandwagon tomorrow okay." I guess you may be right in thinking I'm a poor tactican, I may have been a bit to upfront with my accusations. And this time they were totally wrong. Take not that when I replied to this, it was before I checked in to the daily discussion, and the Chief had already voted for Dacious before I could get back to him. So my reply may have been the reason for him to switch his vote. Also previously he stated this to me, which struck me as interesting, and now even more interesting with the pick axe killer. Note: this was the second time he contacted me and we were just beginning to discuss things, also the person he is refering to is Zed, and what he said just made me agree more with what Zed was saying "I was at first definatly going to vote him off but now I am not so sure, he just mis~read his role and even I didn't see anything about factions till Harriet pointed it out and I took another look. I am not going to vote for him when the time comes. However at times like this I do feel it is good to have friends and build alliances, It gives us a chance to disscuss things and put information together to solve a problem. Therefore I too would like an alliance with you, the only thing is though that I would not feel comfortable revealing my role to you yet. I cannot talk more now because of exahaustion but tommorrow we can discuss the issue further. Yours Ebenezer" to this I replied "Yeah me too I feel the same way, I could have just as easily asked that question and now have my nose to the grindstone And as a piece of advice, when someone contacts you, don't tell them that you have a role/ night action, cause you just told me and If I was scum you would be knee deep in trouble . So just watch out next time, don't reveal your role, and don't tell anyone you have a role. It's the safest way to stay alive, I'll talk to you later today." and that how it happened.

actually I beat all of you to it

On the contrary Harriet, I think the cheif is even more suspicious for pulling out on his vote against Dacious and playing it against Zed to draw attention away from himself, it certainly made him seem more suspicious to me. I think he may be the one to watch out for. I was following my instincts, and I thought Dacious was a werewolf, how many times am I gonna have to say this! Thats why I kept attaking him with my long speeches, just because I'm more vocal on my opinions does not make me a werewolf! Thats madness, as I have stated above, it makes the Chief seem more suspicious because of him pulling out of the vote and drawing attention away from himself.

it looks like the ARC star wars pistol with binoculars at the end, but then squished together. Looks really good!

not really, I definitely found humor in what you had to say

I'm sorry my good fellow, I guess no one can confirm I received a message from Zed, but if that corner of the room wasn't blocked off, I suppose one could have seen that Zed and myself were talking (If you could see the profile views). I guess he decided to contact me because I stood up for him when that argument was still young, he saw the hint of doubt in my voice and must've decided that I would have been easier to convince rather then someone else. Zed told me about all his troubles in his "real life" supposedly and how he had simply "mis-read" the rules that god gave us so to speak. He then went on to tell me how he was the protector and he didn't want to say it in the day thread to convince you guys because that would mean he would be killed at night because he could not protect himself, which seemed reasonable, but looking back I should have seen how flawed it was, in essence it was a sob story coupled with a night action that I thought would be useful, but in the end it was all just lies

Well I would assume that it was the chief, I was talking to him yesterday about Dacious and he agreed with me that Dacious had bad intentions, he also accused Dacious in the thread with me, he also said that he had a potentially powerful night action yesterday and yet he's not dead today, so it's just an assumption but itseems the most likely.

Well seeing as how Harriet "overheard" the conversation, I am assuming more people are aware of it, it's just a thought though as I know I did not kill Dacious last night. Or it could just be luck that allowed someone to target him last night due to the way he gathered the evidence against Zed yesterday. Yeah, thats why I found it hard to believe that bit of "evidence" one could simply have made such a fact up, and no one would have been any the wiser! And You misunderstood what I was trying to say, or I did not clearly state it, I can't recall the timestamp evidence ever being brought out in the open! Thats why I thought it couldn't be used as evidence. Wait, the evidence was your play? I guess you didn't demonstrate it all that well, cause I thought you were just trying to make Zed look more guilty then he already was, and exagerating it to the tenth degree made it seem less like evidence and more like ramblings. Sorry but I never much cared for theater. I'm sorry for wasting your time, I thought that this ordeal was more then just black and white, I was following my instincts, and they weren't right, so go ahead and kill me for that. Well I thought you didn't aknowledge it the first time, but when I spoke, it seems you already acknowledged it, so that is my bad (I read your post then responded to it, but in the time of me responding you posted again with your answer) This is what I don't like, If I was a werewolf, and I threatened to kill Dacious, then why did someone who isn't a werewolf kill Dacious? I may have been blocked last night and I may not have, there is no way for me to know because I didn't try to leave my room last night, did the person who blocked me get some sort of confirmation that it was a successful block? I was not trying to get out last night. But I think I know who the freelance killer must be if they targeted Dacious.

I was referring to the conversation we had alone, and I thought Dacious's arguments were flawed, and I still havn't seen anything about these "timestamps" evidence, which may be negligence on my part, but I stand by it. I thought Dacious was a werewolf, so I did what any citizen would do in that situation, try to make him slip and convict him of being a werewolf, I was wrong as we can all see now, if that what is gonna get me killed then so be it. Fair enough. I still think anyone with the least bit of sense could piece that one together, but oh well there is no convincing you. To restate what I have said before Seeing as how I have dug my own grave here by defending the abomination that was Zed, I pose a question to Harriet, when I am condemned tomorrow and when I am found to be innocent, I would ask you to reevaluate all those who "overheard" the conversation between Dacious and Myself, for I think someone is trying to frame me, if you can do that, then I shall not die in vain. If I am to die today, I make this my final wish, can you promise me this much Harriet?

Oh, I was wondering where this went, I thought I must've exited the program before I clicked post, but it seems you've split the topic. Sorry, I just thought it didn't really deserve a topic of it's own. Thanks for your input though! And yeah, although sharpies can get messy, I'm fairly good at them and like the clean touch. I'll be sure to post my finalized Delta Squad here!

No it's definitely the UCS one. But hey, if they wanna sell the UCS at system scale price, well thats okay by me!

I guess this sums it up pretty well I've got another question for you guys I'm working on custom Republic Commando figures, if your familiar with the game, would you use orange or red to do the markings on Boss, on some of the screens I've found they look red, and on other they look orange, answers are what I'm looking for and would be appreciated! nevermind