Fallenangel

the horror the horror Astromech is still sideways, nose is still flat, cockpit is still not right, the fin in the back is still too large... it seems that LEGO doesn't want to redesign these Delta-7Bs. But then, this one doesn't even have the characteristic twin laser cannons? Maybe they expect him to jump out and fight battle droids using kung fu (around 4:10). It's occurred to me that the proton cannon resembles a Providence carrier's flak cannon on legs. Just curious... why do the STAPs have wings?

So I see you like both V-wings... I would also like a UCS AT-AT, as long as LEGO doesn't mess something up like they did on the 10179 Falcon and the 10134 Y-wing. And of course AT-ATs are better! With the World Devastators maybe LEGO could incorporate magnets into them to represent their tractor beams so you can buy a bunch and tear apart metal things...

I know. His name is Bruce Lowell, but he's better known as Brucey-wan. His X-wing MOC is considered to be one of the best. Couldn't it be argued that World Devastators were just as much a symbol of intimidation in Dark Empire as AT-ATs were in Empire? (They even look similar!)

Seeing as the Tantive IV should be less than a tenth of the Imperial Star Destroyer's length (150m vs 1600m) that model is much too large. I think it might have something to do with the fact that the hangar bay on this thing is a bit oversized.

I want to say the Dark Empire comic books, same as the TIE/d... And I'm right. Now we just need some V-wing airspeeders and World Devastators and we've got the Battle of Mon Calamari...

It is true that LEGO had instructions for an Outrider alternate model that you could make from the 6211 playset, but it was kind of a hack job in my opinion and not really fleshed out enough to constitute a legitimate set. Even back in '06, I considered it far below typical LEGO standards (as can be expected from an alternate model).

In the 10131 TIE Collection they threw in the TIE/d drone from Dark Empire along with Vader's TIE Advanced x1 and his wingmen. It looks like this: Wookieepedia says: Of course, quite a few people had no idea what it was when the set came out, so I think the TIE/d may be part of why LEGO doesn't release very many Expanded Universe sets. But seeing as their next Expanded Universe set featured the equally obscure Blackhole stormtroopers, the real reason Expanded Universe sets aren't selling well is because LEGO doesn't release any of the better known ships, such as the Outrider.

Seeing as a droid brain was considered by some to be a minifigure in the 10131 TIE Collection, I don't see why a Q7 wouldn't be.

I would have to disagree with you on that last point. Remember that in the past, there has been a significant number of popular Star Wars video games, with Shadows of the Empire, KOTOR, Rogue Squadron, and Battlefront being only the most famous examples. I'm sure the license must include canon Star Wars video games; how many video game sets has LEGO done? At the moment I can only think of the TIE Defender and the Rogue Shadow. In the past I have heard many fans complain about how LEGO was only doing stuff from the films and ignoring the video games completely. Seeing as ships like the Ebon Hawk, the Outrider, or the Assault Gunboat have yet to be realized in LEGO, I think the license could have gone on much longer, even without the Neo-Clone Wars. I'm with Brickdoctor on the former. As for the latter, I'm sure LEGO will just take something off of this guy or even this guy.

Also: Rontos do not exist. Dewbacks cannot walk. Jabba was not present at Docking Bay 94 prior to the Falcon's takeoff. The Millennium Falcon does NOT sport grilles over its booster. The Death Star did not create a ring of fire when it blew up. Part of the T-47's hull is transparent. Luke actually said, "You're lucky you don't taste very good." Buildings on Cloud City are typically very closed in. Luke did not scream when he fell down the chasm in Empire. The Max Rebo Band actually performed the song "Lapti Nek" at Jabba's palace. Sarlaccs do not have beaks. The destruction of the second Death Star was not celebrated in Cloud City, Mos Eisley, Coruscant, or Theed. And so on... Anyway, what I really wanted to ask is, can anyone here provide me with a clear, decently sized image of the TIE Defender from the video game Star Wars: TIE Fighter? I'm not looking for pictures from the Essential Guide nor CGI renderings by fans, but a shot from the game itself.

So sorry I'm bumping this after a year, but I was remembering the rumour about a modified Consular and thought of this set... Something that really, really bothers me: Am I the only one who thinks this set is too fat around the middle? I mean, just look at the studio model. It looks like those trapezoidal flaps should be a whole lot thinner, and the section directly above the salon pod looks all wrong. But then I read all these comments about how this was one of the best LEGO Star Wars sets ever - I believe even KimT said so - and I'm just kind of confused. Such obvious flaws aren't easily overlooked, especially with the number of Prequel, Clone Wars, and Neo-Clone Wars fans on this forum...

That's not quite it... And I'd like you to provide solid evidence that Sith is in fact the best-selling of the six. I find it difficult to believe that "most people" are into the Clone Wars or even the Prequels for that matter. If Original Trilogy fans can be considered elitists, I don't see why Neo-Clone Wars fans can't be considered pretentious for thinking LEGO will release 20,000 highly episode-specific sets with like 30 new minfigures in every set just because some ignorant kids' show that's full of retcons is getting its 15 minutes of fame. What's more, it feels like ever since the debut of the new series many of the suggestions made in this thread have become increasingly unrealistic - to the point that somebody made up a hoax about a $200+ Malevolence set and people actually believed it. I mean, LEGO Star Wars is expensive enough without clone accessories, leg printing, new blasters, and 20 exclusive minifigures with every set - not to mention that this is cutting into the quality of the sets themselves (new minifigures with the same crappy 6212 X-wing?!)

As soon as I saw that, I thought, "have these minifigures been getting thinner?" and then I noticed that it was just due to the armor being smaller on the new minifigure and the helmet sitting higher.

Well, regarding this "inevitable change in the franchise", I'd like you all to think back to high school for a moment and remember what happened to Animal Farm... I realize that the Star Wars franchise was probably not what Orwell was talking about, but let me explain. What I got out of that book was that the animals that were overly receptive to change (due to lack of knowledge or otherwise) lost their gains in the end as the communist utopia they sought was transformed into a corrupt totalitarian government. By the end of the novel, nothing is the same; this is reflected in the number of additions and eventual subtractions (or should I say retcons?) to their rules. It is implied with this that if we are not willing to object or disapprove the people in power will change things irrevocably, hurting us in the process. In other words, it’s good to know what you like. So how does relate to Star Wars? Well, consider Episode I in 1999 and all the retroactive continuities that came with it. All of a sudden Jedi are raised in a temple, the Force is induced by midi-chlorians, Darth is a Sith title, and Anakin is a 9-year old who ended a war by accidentally blowing up a starship – all of which drastically changed the way Original Trilogy fans saw the franchise. The insanity continued with Episode II in 2002 – Boba is a clone, Jedi are forbidden to marry, the Clone Wars was fought against battle droids, and Anakin is a whiny teenager. This second prequel must surely have angered Original Trilogy fans with preconceived notions of the Clone Wars (which, as Brickdoctor said, was supposed to be a terrible war and what drove Alderaan to become a pacifist world) – not to mention Boba Fett enthusiasts. And so on and so forth. The likely outcome is that if older fans do not say something the franchise will even be altered beyond recognition. (In fact, I think this may have already happened with the introduction of “Star Wars: THE Clone Wars” in ’08; the whiny, immature Anakin now has a similarly whiny, immature Padawan and has apparently taken to ditching his Eta-2 Actis interceptor in favor of traversing the galaxy in a bulky grey thing whilst making bad puns with his now googly-eyed Jedi master.) But you may ask now, what justifies this resistance? Why not just sit back and watch the Star Wars franchise be rewritten and “<insert that tiresome argument>”? What prevents us from using doublethink? Consider Animal Farm and one of its inhabitants, Molly. Unlike the radical Old Major, Molly embraced her current state of ownership and displayed a taste for frivolity which appeared to disagree with the others’ revolutionary ideals. Now, my initial reaction to this was that Molly simply did not understand what a new reign of animals would mean for her. I realize now that I was wrong; Molly understood the implications of the new reign better than anyone. So she left. Why? Because she knew what she liked, and understood that change would take away what she liked. That’s us Original Trilogy fans. We’re not elitist. We just know what we like. And some of us also understand that the Prequels are not what we like. The above argument could have probably been much better written, but it gets the point across.

It's not like they haven't done it before... Looking at the Jedi Shuttle set, the plate stacking is sloppy, there's gaps everywhere, the bottom looks terrible, and there's lots of big colorful pieces and failed SNOT. To put it another way, it looks like some amateur MOCpages creation. Now, I have no idea what the actual thing looks like, so I guess I can't really criticize, but I just don't like the way LEGO designed this. It's like they regressed to the days of 7259 ARC-170 (but then 7259 was considered acceptable before '06 rolled around and LEGO upped their standards.)

? The four I was thinking of were the 6211 Imperial Star Destroyer, the 7655 Republic Cruiser, the 8093 Venator, and the 10198 Tantive IV. As amazing as the Recusant looks, I can't help but think it would be too obscure to work as a UCS. It's not like a lot of today's youth have ever played Republic Commando. Lucrehulk... nah. I don't think the Nu-class shuttle (or any of the Neo-Clone wars ships, for that matter) have quite reached a status worthy of a UCS set, and frankly I doubt they ever will. The only Clone Wars ship that even comes close is the Venator, and even then that ship isn't nearly as iconic as, say, the Devastator or the Tantive IV. (It's not like the one in the opening scene of Sith actually did anything pivotal. I mean, I don't even know its name!) You have to remember KielDaMan that some of us who have been into the franchise before 1999 have different definitions of Star Wars, some of which may exclude the Prequels. I know there's at least one person who refuses to believe in the events of Episode II. But then that goes into the debate of what one would define as a 'true' Star Wars fan.

It's not that he can't fit the bodies, it's that the LEGO bodies aren't scaled to minifigures. You're quite welcome KielDaMan. I'm just happy that people on this forum are willing to take my suggestions into account, as I do like seeing others' creations improve over time (unlike the 6212 X-wing, but that rant belongs elsewhere). And the pointed tips are enough to improve the look of the ships significantly. After having seen rear views of the Delta-7B, I really did think the cockpit area could have been improved to look more bulbous. But it looks like you've done all you can with the flag, so I wouldn't worry about it too much. By the way, Windu's Eta-2 is purple and dark grey, with a pattern similar to that of Anakin's Eta-2. You may have been thinking of his astromech droid, which is white. See Clone Wars Chapter 23. (You referred to it as being purple and white in the other thread, so...)

For anyone who's seen the North American dubbed version, the use of 'Sailor Scouts' should have been a dead giveaway... Seeing as they've updated the minifigures in the 6212 X-wing while leaving the actual thing untouched, I would believe so... If fancy new molds are jacking up prices and interfering with set quality, then I don't want them. So LEGO will make highly detailed character-specific helmets and leg prints but not accessories? And what about Asajj's lightsabers in the 7676 Republic Gunship? As for the Ewok set, I just wish they'd give us a decent AT-ST at an affordable price.

Okay, I haven't posted in this thread yet, so here goes: I have one shelf for all of my LEGO Star Wars sets, the rest I put somewhere else. First, the bottom row: As you can see, it's rather sparse. The red vehicle in the center and the brown starship on the stand next to it are two very old MOCs which I've kept together. The blue thing next to it is history. Moving up, some of my Original Trilogy sets: Other than the obvious inaccuracies, there really isn't much to say on these. Moving up: I guess it's somewhat ironic that an Original Trilogy enthusiast would choose to mount his Clone Wars sets. Those are custom-made stands for my 7259 and my 6205. As you can see, I've gotten in the habit of leaving the minifigures out of my fighters - taking them out and putting them back in really puts stress on the joints. (The minifigures', not mine!) Moving up again, I guess this is what I REALLY wanted to show you: None of LEGO's X-wings quite mark up to my standards, so I bought a cheap model kit at less than half the price of the 6212 which is clearly much more accurate. My small collection of Original Trilogy minifigures is also visible... yes, that's Vader with the new torso. I wouldn't call myself a particularly big Gundam fan, but I do think some of the mobile suits look quite nice, so I bought a few. There are two GAT-X105 Strikers (from the SEED series in '02) and one RX-79 (from the much more popular 8th MS Team in 1995) which is of course my favorite of the three. Moving up: I'm wondering at this point whether it comes as a surprise to any of you that I own such few sets. The 6206 TIE Interceptor was a gift. That's another custom stand. And then of course, there are a few sets which I regretted buying and stuck back in the box... Truth be told, I really do not like either of these two sets very much - it wouldn't be a stretch to say that the minifigures were the only redeeming trait. I also have 7670 and 7654 sitting somewhere, but I didn't even bother to take pictures of those. Well, that's it for now...

Actually, that would be the TIE/Ln. The TIE/In refers to the TIE Interceptor. Anyone else here think a Providence Destroyer playset (in the style of the other 4 'large ship' playsets) is long overdue? Could contain: Dooku (with 'removable' head and hands, of course) Grievous Anakin and Obi-wan Palpatine tied to a chair Artoo Perhaps various battle droids, droidekas, Neimoidians, etc. And I'll have you know that 'weird EU TIEs' aren't any less weird than some of the shuttles we're seeing in the Neo-Clone Wars these days. (That Pelta thing is ugly!)

:laugh: Well, it was fine for Anakin and his Azure Angel (since he's an exceptional pilot in the first place) but I don't know why they would make similar models for all the other Jedi, especially since Anakin should have already begun using the newer Eta-2s. Darn retcons! (And don't forget, this is the NEO-Clone Wars. The real Clone Wars begun in '03 and ended with Grievous's kidnapping of Palpatine in Chapter 25.) As for the new MOCs, KielDaMan, I noticed that they all have pointed tips now, which look fantastic. It's too bad you didn't replace those curved slopes in the front like I suggested, but it's Neo-Clone Wars. so I don't mind too much. Now, be aware that it's gotten to the point where I don't want to look at the 'real' Delta-7B rendering any more than I have to, but I really think one of the things you could improve with these is the exaggeration of the grooves in front of the guns. Moving the guns further inward so that they're right up against the phallic central section is also recommended. Also, try and minimize the portion directly behind the bubble canopy - it looks like the fin should cut into the bubble. Have you covered up the engines so that there's a smoother transition into the ventral surface, or have you left them mostly exposed, as on the Delta-7? I believe the former is more accurate. The sideways-facing astro-droid was actually the first inaccuracy I noted with that blocky yellow thing LEGO called Anakin's Jedi Starfighter back in '08... as well as in several other sets (the 7660 N-1, the 7658 Y-wing, etc.)

Don't act so friendly sir, you're forgetting we hardly even know each other... for all you know I could be a 10th grader lusting after my 9th grade sweetheart. Anyway, as I've said, the Wars aren't exactly my area of expertise, but here goes... Regarding the pedals, this picture appears to have the pedals angled upward. Oh, wait - the pedals themselves are angled upward, but the skinny bits they're attached to are angled downward, unlike your rendition. The real issue here is that the legs don't touch the pedals - though I think doing something like this might do the trick. I realize that the taper is nearly impossible at this scale, but using these (rather than the 1x1 bricks) with the tiles attached with SNOT for the nose may work. In other words, I'm going to go with Brickdoctor on this one. Of course, I'm not sure whether this won't end up making the nose fatter, so experiment... You may want to rework the section around the handlebars - it doesn't quite look right. That area is really weird on the "real" BARC, so I'm not exactly sure what's wrong. As for dimensional inaccuracies, all I will say is that Wookieepedia lists this vehicle as 4.57m long, which translates to around 13.5 studs in length. That would mean this thing is (like most BARC speeder MOCs out there) too big. However, I don't see that - the rear section is the right height, the nose appears about the right length. The only really obvious mistake here is that the pair of large air intakes just behind the set should be farther back. Nice job putting a 91st trooper on the speeder, but what's happened to his crest?

Not to be offensive or anything, but as soon as I saw "The Lego Man!" next to the thread title I thought 'another new member with a one-sentence 'this is cool' post to offer...' It's Sailor Moon... They really outdid themselves with the printing on that Embo thing... but then again, this is why these sets are so outrageously priced. As far as I know, no pictures, but from the rumoured $150~$250 price tag, I'm expecting BETTER PROPORTIONS as opposed to incredibly detailed minifigures. A Docking Bay 327-themed Falcon wouldn't be too bad (since they haven't done that yet...) - neither would a Platform 327 Falcon (since they haven't done that either). An Endor Falcon would have less minifigures and therefore more detail... hmm... Oh, and it's spelled 'Millennium', with two 'n's. (Just a pet peeve of mine, ever since seeing Brian Tobin's fantastic rendition - or at least fantastic for its time).

Look, it's 'Cad Bane's Speeder'! Thanks Brickdoctor for the excellent online reference. I don't suppose you came across one with the illustrations from the Complete Cross-Sections? (TIE Bomber, Lambda-class shuttle, Imperial Star Destroyer, etc.) By the way, nobody's answered my question about the Falcon's landing gear...

You're missing out... The parts-price ratio for the new shuttle looks to be on par with other Neo-Clone Wars sets, so if you've been following prices lately you can't complain...