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You can lead a horse to water...

If you have only his word that he's a friendly third party, then that's nothing. Do you think he's going to tell us if he's dangerous? C'mon! Think! I outed him, so he did damage control (and yes, I let him know in private 24 hours back, so that is his only reason for confessing a role). He was investigated, he has been caught lying. Time to take him out.

I promise not to come bawling to your corpse. Sergeant's honour.

Who is the liar? Vote: Fitzwilliam (jackjonespaw) He is independent. He has nothing to offer the town (according to him), and he lied to me about being town. Let's take him out.

Shoot, sorry, yes, you're right, you did claim to me. I told you in PM I haven't been paying attention

Glanred certainly hasn't made any contact with me. When my claim today is shown to be true tomorrow, we will be in that awkward position where those that haven't contacted and claimed to me will rise to the top of the list. If everybody claims, then we can compare claims. If half of you don't claim, then we keep doing a random crapshoot.

We're pretty much going to have to lynch the liar, but it's best if everyone keeps throwing shade in the meantime. Giving the name out early does kill discussion.

Nobody was cleared last night. A few people have claimed vanilla townie to me, no power roles have claimed. And one of those vanillas have been shown to be lying.

Hmm, good results. I'll assume that Alanna was killed by the SK, since the SK has no reason to not kill, while only the dumbest of gigs feel the need to kill every day. Was Alanna chosen for being out of the spotlight? Pehaps the scum have been lying quite low. A kind of questionable shaming since I've been low myself.

Still trying to figure out where to vote.

That said, few seem interested in taking me up on my offer Score one up for lazy town.

For the record, I am in touch with the investigator, I have been investigated as town. If anyone wants to claim, I won't demand it since I'm not perfectly cleared, but on a hunch, you could trust me and we could bulldoze the scumbums.

Sorry, I'm well behind on things. Not happy to see three deaths. With a starting population of 12, a SK is pretty irresponsible. On top that, a vig with this situation needs to be super-conservative. Killing night one on mere hunches is, also, irresponsible. Let's slow things down folks.

And you will hear it again. It is the truth. And the truth is unwavering. It's always there, with you, giving you strength.

Hidey-ho everyone, you're beloved sergeant here, that is pronounced ser-ji-ent[/] and not sar-gent. Once again, I am here to fulfill my role as the towniest of towns. You have no fear of me. I have a roughly 75% chance of being town. With me being a vanilla the last time around, the chance of me being a vanilla two games in a row is roughly 25%. The chance of me being godfather? Why, a mere 8% or so, though actually zero as I am so damn town. All the same, judge me on my well-established character, and not these silly percentiles. Have no worry, none may be towniest than I Added: gah! Foiled by manually inputted tags!

I'm here.

Alright, I can play, depending on the length. If you're going to be very punctual, I'm in. If it's going to stretch out to two months, OI'll sit out.

I bet it's a birthday themed mafia.

But why would you care so much that you're still on about it? Technically, we were both telling the truth. The past game had no bearing on the new game AND it was unlikely to happen twice in a row. I perfectly understand how statistics work. I've read Innumeracy twice. You going on about it was part of why I was happy to vote you out. Better to just move on. I'm moving on.

Ah, solid then

Just looking at the Google spreadsheet... why was Lady K's block of me unsuccessful? Only she targeted me, right? So she should have been successful? If she got unsuccessful for targeting vanillas, that was a broken role. That meant that she had a sort of role cop. Can I have an explanation?

I don't think I would've. I tend to get stressed and pissy, and that can make a little nasty in late game days. I was about as involved as I ever have playing vanilla, and didn't have the stress. Let someone else lead I think the balance was fine. Scum lost members on days two and three, thanks to erratic behavior on their part. If theyd played it a little cooler, scum would have been very strong.

Just read the deadboard. MT, you have no idea how I think That day one comment about me being unlikely to be godfather was never meant to be empirical evidence of my innocence. And again, since you misquoted me both in thread and on the deadboard, I never said I "couldn't" be. You know what "unlikely" actually means, right? I thought we'd settled that in thread, but apparently not. Anyway, all of it was my day one fluff that isn't meant to be looked into seriously. In the same way, I often start with that Towniest of Towns thing and see which gullible player gets outraged by it. My frustration at Lady K was in no way because I was jealous of her leadership, and frankly, that's a baffling conclusion to come to. I mostly supported her lynches, and never tore off and told the town not to listen to her. The only shade I threw was that the town block might be infiltrated. The frustration was days (that played out over weeks in real time) of her asking in private if I was scum, culminating with her proclaiming that she'll lynch me, the godfather, to win the game. I knew she was wrong, and putting me up for lynch was the best way to prove it. I also told her in PM that if fhomess was scum, his scum buddy would likely join in on my vote. Which he did. So, yeah, many reasons I put myself up for lynch. I played the way I think a vanilla town should: I play to win, not to survive. Capiche? Now where are my special plants....

Yay, I won... When the town block was always on the verge of killing me! I was fine not being leader. There's few cases where a vanilla should be. Instead, I messaged Lady K night one and urged her to step up and pledged my support in PM and in thread. That was the best I could do as a vanilla townie. Share whatever experience I could, and push for logic to make it through. Congrats to Lady K for winning and finally knowing the stress and paranoia of being the town leader. And too bad Pie, you fell into my trap!

I think a SK is highly unlikely, if not impossible.