Scubacarrot

It's Knight Vebb, I believe. And It's not a problem.

I like to believe everyone reads the whole thread and can decide for themselves, and not do what prominent people tell them to, but that's probably just wishful thinking on my part.

Good example? Again, it's a game, hell, I would not want anyone to take me as an example when I'm playing a game. I fail to see how choice of words can be a scum tell in this case, please explain?

Because calling someone foolish is less bad than dumb or incompetent. I don't share your views. In the context of the mafia game, they mean the same thing, again, keep in mind that it's a game, and don't take things personal. IRL, I would not try to lynch Flipz... And again, I am not angry, by any stretch, you would have to do a lot more than play a game with me to get me angry. The reason I used caps back then because it was a response to a post with caps in it.

Don't take things personal, it's a game.

With all due respect, your only reason you want to vote for me is that I accused someone you seem to revere? I fail to see your reasoning how exactly that makes me scum. Your view that Ashoka and Windu are better candidates than Corobb is something I don't share, but you are of course free to have that view... Well, so far on the chopping board are Ashoka, Corobb and Windu. The first two are widely believed to be clear, and many seem to doubt Windu's case as well. But I think everyone can agree Master Mon's involvement has been suspicous and/or unhelpful. How would you call their actions if they are not scum. Dumb? I say that is worse.

You guys are not listening, I don't know for sure if Windu is or is not scum, I said this clearly in the past, I just think Corobb is more likely to be scum, hence my actions, my reasoning and subsequently when I got no awnsers: my vote. Corobb has defended himself, and has failed to convince me as of yet. If you guys think I'm trying to stop the vote for Windu, you are mistaken, does it look like that? I don't think so. Why would I do that?? It makes no sense, at all. But know that if we lynch Windu, and he turns out innocent, we will have gotten almost nowhere, I fear. As I said in the past, there is no case for Ashoka, and I feel the case against Windu was too weak, I think his behaviour is more due to inexperience(Or incompetence, he has been in a few games, however you want to call it) than anything else. Vote for who you want, but think it over. Perhaps I have been too rash with voting so early, but I hoped it would spark some action from Corobb, which it did, but not to my satisfactory, and he instead got defended by others for no real reason (Or is there?). To me it is clear, but it is also clear to me I won't convince many of you. Which is a shame. If my judgement still means anything, perhaps you should think about lynching Master Mon, his only contribution was a load of garbage, and he voted for no reason, so yeah...

She? Wait what. Am I a woman ? *Looks down pants* Well I'll be damned. And the only reason for this is that you would have to awnser much more questions. Windu could be wiped off as incompetence. HEY! I checked the Holonet, I am a man That made what I saw down my pants even more odd...

You'd have to do more than that to get me angry, mate. Caps Lock was a response to the caps lock of the blue haired buffoon. Did he draw the suspicion of everyone? Not really, apparantly, since I seemed to be the only one to call him out for it. Why draw the investigations? Because it damn well limits the spectrum the scum have to work with, obviously. scrutiny of everyone? I don't think so, people seem to be quite accepting after a single positive result most of the time. And for good reason, since results are not plentiful. Okay, you know what, if you are damn set on lynching Windu, go ahead. I'll talk to you in the morning, bye.

Are you stupid? HE MIGHT BE THE GODFATHER OR HE MIGHT BE A REGULAR SCUM, REGARDLESS IT IS PRETTY DARN SAFE TO BE ACTIVE ON DAY ONE, CLEAR ENOUGH? Read what I say for a second, don't make assumptions that make no sense other than thats all than your mind can handle. And no, for "pro-town" is not the reason I voted for him, Read back for that, that was simply my response to the guy that voted for me, He used that as an argument to have suspicion on me, I simply pointed out that there has been damn few pro-town moves, and only tomorrow shall we able to assess what actually was, if at all. Pathetic.

I thought only the gifted were accepted into the Jedi Temple, not the ones with the brain of a cockroach. Corobb has not done any Pro-Town things.

It's not true though. Def did an excellent series of posts on this back in Yakuza Mafia, somewhere in the day threads. Roleplaying is fun, it gives flair to the game, but it should not be annoying, or limiting the game. After all, people have limited time (and energy) and having to wade through each post, trying to figure out what they are trying to say should not be made any harder. On top of that, some players genuinely don't like roleplaying, and I don't think you can force people to stay in character the whole time. Also: Metagaming is a stupid concept, whoever thought that up, you suck.

Scum? Not per se. Suspicious? Perhaps. Incompetent? Probably. Nothing particular scummy? Oh please you have been defending him with all you can since the beginning, I noticed that right away, and you said the reason for that was because it was something a towny would never do? Remember that dream were we meeted each other, in a place called Japan, Oh, that's right, I was the bad guy, and was totally being risky, why? because I could get away with because I was the Godfather. Now, I am not sure if Corobb is that, it seems likely, but honestly, it is pretty safe for a scumbag to be active on day one. Is that supposed to be a threat? Really? I have nothing to fear from you, mate. If anything, you should be cautious that you don't follow your good friend Corobb. I'm heavily on the fence about you, and you either need to take off your tunnel-goggles, or yeah. you know. Your last action seems to me like you are trying to quickly take the spotlight of Corobb. I wonder why. And Corobb: You purposely avoided my statements, don't try to spin it around.

And I thought you would give the others a chance by not participating . It looks great, I love it!

Oh come on, now you are not even trying to respond to me. Before I forget: Vote: Roron Corobb (Flipz) As I said, I did not want to give the Sith any ideas, so if I'm wrong, this one is all on you, CorobbAlright, here is the conversation, my first message was a respond to when he said he wanted investigators to investigate HIM. As you can see, he avoids my points, or genuinly does not understand them Oh, I just got a response: Again, totally not going in what I said. It's outs of my hands now, I cast my vote, and I believe I am right, if anyone questions my reasons, I'll be glad to awnser. I must add to my reasoning that his behaviour reminds me very much of a figure similair to me, in a setting where fish was eaten raw, and the rising sun was a symbol. That figure was scum.

Yes, I read that the first time. Since you obviously did not see what I was getting at, I'll try to explain: Okay, here is the deal: Corobb played major part in accusing these two people, for those two reasons, correct? Now, the reasons are the exact opposite, which does indeed not make them mutually exclusive, but here is the thing: As he said it, he started saying things like: <Bad Corobb impression on> A real Jedi would follow up on this points!<Bad Corobb impression off>. In short and easier said: It was more the way he used the reasoning, and it genuininely feels (To me) that he is just scavenging for a quick and easy lynch. That is the impression I got at least, and it almost feels like he dropped Ashoka because the backlash from doing so would be too dangerous for him. If I am not clear, please say so, I see my last post can come off as a little angry, it was not intended. I also want to point out that he called someone out for summarizing, while on the last page he did exactly did, in a more useless and longer fashion. Also he refuses to respond to me in private when I called him out, I am going to link the conversation here, maybe someone else can make something out of it, although I had hoped he would have given me a good reason not to.

What? Why do you act dense? I never said "one has to be very towny". Go read back and come back when you figure out what I actually say, bye bye.

Wow. Just wow. I don't even know what I just read, but yeah, you basically have read NOTHING of what other people have said, come up with NO reasoning of your own, FAIL to see that someone said "Im busy tomorrow" when we still had 48 hours (2 days, derp) and now you wasted your vote. Good job.

Politics and political symbolsFair enough. Let's forgive Indiana Jones for having the Propaganda issues, and then move on. Religious references including symbols, buildings, or peopleFair enough. Sex, drugs, or smokingFair enough, don't see why "Sex" is in the same row as drugs and smoking, but okay. Alcohol in any present day situationBecause in the past, alcoholism was not a problem. SwearingFair enough. Death, killing, blood, terrorism, or tortureBecause Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Indiana Jones, Star Wars did not have any of these things. First-person shooter video gamesThird-person shooter video games are okay, apparantly. Warfare or war vehicles in any situation post-WWII to presentIndiana Jones was not real, it was an illusion. Racism, bullying, or cruelty to real life animalsFair enough, but why is cruelty to real life animals in the same row as the other two, and is cruelty to Unicorns okay?

Thank you droid, for explaining, perhaps it would have been a good idea to have this in the thread in the first place. Alright I can see where people are coming from now. Still, the case is at it's best... filmsy. I agree he has not said anything helpful, but neither have others, in fact, there have been multiple people that have said either nothing, next to nothing or nothing meaningful. That said, I sincerely hope Master Windu will grace us with his presence once more, and explain WHY he has been so unhelpful up to this point, and if he has anything insightful to add, the same is for the others that are quiet, by being quiet, you only help the scum, and generally make it harder to see who to trust and who to lynch. Now, I have something to say about Corobb's last statement, which I could not help but notice: He claims the reason people went for Ashoka was because she sticked by her (misguided) suggestion after some people said it was a bad idea. And the reason people went for Windu was because he does not stick to anything. Now, is it just me or are these opposites, it is starting more and more to sound like Corobb is a Sith, looking for an easy lynch to start their day off. FoS: Roron Corobb (Flipz)

Wow, okay, let me get this straight. The reason people were going for Ashoka was basically her non-lynch plan. Might I remind you that this is brought up EVERY SINGLE time, most of the time by innocent people. Now people suddenly gang up on Master Windu, for suspecting Corobb? I must say I too still have my doubts about Corobb, I have yet to see anything that would make me believe otherwise. The only thing that really speaks for him is that he is active, but for some reason I think he would be active anywhere, in anything. Looking back at his posts, I don't see particular Pro-temple behaviour, to be honest. So is it that weird to suspect Corobb? Maybe not as much as you people seem to make it out to be. I would like to point out that I was not "Confused" or "Misjudging" when I asked for Corobb's explanation for his action, go read back, if you still think that. It it suspicious to me that Master Windu would describe something as gut feeling, when there are so many statements to read and analyze. Gut feelings are NOT the way to go in an ordeal like this. Does this warrant a lynch, along with his suspicions of a by many perceived Towny? In my opinion, not really. It seems as though I am defending Master Windu, and I have been very cynical about that in the past, but I am really making sure no one has tunnelvision. I, for one, am most suspicious about Seosty, making about 3 statements, one of which casting a vote, while you know you can not unvote? More so, she announced her awayness for the coming time. I find this rather odd, and she looks like either a scum, or an extremely unhelpful Jedi... FoS: Ili Seosty (Sisco)

Wow, hold on a second, and let's just call things as they are: Corobb, you are basically flat-out asking investigators to contact you? Yeah, I'm sure that is not scummy at all.

Hmmm, they announced this rather quickly didn't they? Oh well, too bad, it was a nice model, but as I suspected earlier in this thread, they go for the same reasoning with the Winchester, is that the whole reason? Probably not, but it does not matter. At least that they are going to actually review the others, makes me believe that there is at least a chance that the others that are currently in review phase, gets made, which is a good thing .

Not exactly website outage, but I think technical difficulty none the less, the e-mails I get from replies to conversations and new conversations, seem to arrive between 7 and 9 hours late, whereas I used to get them instantaniously.

Now this strikes me as a bit odd. You are sticking up for someone else in your first post, you are insinuating someone is scum, and at the end saying its just theories.. You said "Most of the above" are theories, care to tell us what is not? To me this seems like you are trying to spread discord... I'll keep my eye on you. And I think it is a very viable question to ask to tell us more about the ones we don't have a history on the Wookiepedia Holonet, for all we know, the ones we don't know are the sith, and they are hiding in plain sight...