Kadabra

This point here. I was agreeing with you. And I see what you mean about ML, you did bring him up as scummy before saying you we're uncomfortable with the lynch. I can see why a bandwagon might want you to backtrack... Lucky we didn't, though!

Trimmed it down to just what I responded to, if that's OK. 1. The cult leader doesn't need an unkillable, he's bulletproof. 2. Yes, tell us about the pistol recipient, please. 3. Precisely my point. 4. But you claimed in PM to me that you were unconfident in that lynch and you voted Cultist. Playing both sides of the fence, to quote a great mafia player. 5. Yup, solid. 5. Can't wait to hear it!

I think you spend far too much time trying to cause confusion, so we're even. My point is, Hinck and BONAD both knew about a vig. If it was the scum killer/SK, then the REAL vig would have claimed to a person he trusted so he could get the spokesperson to counterclaim while staying anonymous, or counterclaimed in thread, or counterclaimed to Hinck. He would NOT have sat around "playing with his dick" while a fake vig was out and about claiming to people.

I was thinking one of them could be revealed and the JOAT could protect them each night, but then we'd lose our investigation and the plan could easily be foiled by a block, so yeah. Keep 'em hidden, IMO.

Rufus doesn't get a good pill until we have confirmation of who's the real inventor. He gets a placebo. People without night actions should take the uppers so the scum don't get 'em.

Honck revealed that a JOAT claimed to him yesterday, if he were scum the real one would have counterclaimed. As far as Rolecop and Blocker, they will remain unknowns so the scum don't target them. DUH. Why would we have more PRs public than we do lifesaver/God pills?

Jesus, Hinckley, give a guy time to read the thread! Considering that I was just shooting down Stump and I revealed my pills, I think it's obvious that I will Vote: Yes for Reveal All Plan.

Because if there's a scum behind the scenes with Honck right now, then the real one would have counterclaimed by this point and we would have already dealt with it. The real point of contention is the identity of the inventor, where there appears to be a conflict between the mystery gun-giver and Rufus. Role cop and Universal Backup are still unknowns. Good job trying to poke holes in a nearly airtight plan, though, scumbag. Too bad it didn't work.

Yes, I was building a case against Stump all day yesterday. By your logic (that Stump and Snake are scum buddies - full 100% agreement, no waffling and partial support from me today ), then if I was scum I wouldn't have tried to drag him into the light when nobody else was really looking at him after ML did. My opinion is vig kill on Stump/Charmer and lynch the other. My pills: Cursed: Placebo Infectious: Upper (Not that helpful if both major PRs are going for lifesaver/god - role cop and inventor unfortunately can't alternate between uppers, as it would give them away to the scum. However, watching for people who DO jump on uppers would be a great way to find scum PRs). On the inventor debacle - Tammo, what did you invent and who did you give it to? Would that person please confirm the claim? Otherwise, I'm inclined to believe our inventor gave the gun and that you're SK/Scum Inventor. Rufus, sorry. Not Tammo.

I'm not interested in PGO - I find it silly that people seem willing to jump on him for lurking when nobody will vote Stump, and will even defend him, for flying under the radar. I think PGO is new and needs to learn that talking is good. I think Stump needs to be lynched. I've made that point on multiple occasions. However, the collective,Town wants to lynch ML or PGO. I think both of those lynches are suboptimal, therefore I am leaving my vote on Stump. I feel that ML is a better target than PGO if it comes down to the to of them. Plain enough for you? Or you're just scummy. You know, that works too.

Day 2: In Which Kadabra is a Bad Communicator Title change anyone? Here's my train of thougt: 1. ML is likely Town 2. stump is likely Scum 3. Nobody wants to vote Stump 4. Everyone wants to vote ML or PGO, as far as I can tell (not counting Cultist) 5. PGO is a lurker 6. ML is active and earnest, but inconsistent 7. Lynch Stump>Lynch inconsistent player>Lynch quiet player Side note: Metagaming a new player = dumb in my mind

Um. Suspicious much? Nobody even accused you and you're blurting out defenses and claiming in thread. Guilty conscience?

Not scummiest, that's stump. Why do you think I'm voting him? I'd just support a ML lynch over a lurker lynch, if that was not clear.

Remember when people were suspicious of def for playing differently from a well established style he had, and then he died and was Town? Male Lover is playing his second game and hasn't had a chance to develop a style yet, and people are meta-bandwagoning him. "His posts weren't consistent" I can get behind. "He was different in Mafia School" I can't. Maybe I'm just a bleeding heart, but I played far worse in Jedi Temple (my first real mafia game) than in A Bedtime Story, and I was Town in both games. Then in Harriet Slutter, O was way more aggressive and arguably a better player (but a worse person! )You can't expect a second time player to keep a cool and powerful leadership presence (LegoDad's role in Aperture, that people expect him to retain) when you're playing with big names like Hinckley for the first time. Heck, this is my fourth game and I feel intimidated just by the presence of some of the people here. In my opinion: Male Lover may be a good lynch, but we're lynching him for the wrong reasons. I support this lynch because of inconsistent posts and lack of contribution besides a lynch the lurkers policy. I think the people who support the lynch JUST because he's playing differently need to think more about behavior than past games. Of course, I still support the lynch, so you can just ignore me ranting.

Of one person shifted from Cultist to Stump, he'd be our secondary lynch. See me recent posts on why.

I like how after I call you out on how you only show up when under fire and make a few long posts before submerging back under the radar, you proceed to... Show up and make a long post without actually addressing any of my points, not even including me in your 'analysis', which is actually just a bunch of lengthy quotes and you saying something obvious underneath. Honcks has explained: He told Witch she was targeted by the vig, she responded by saying that she took a lifesaver. You also point out an error in the fake vote tally (great way to pad your post with semi-helpful info that doesn't actually include you analyzing behavior or calling out suspects!),, hop on the cultist bandwagon (a safe place for scum to hide), and brush aside an accusation that was laid on you by saying 'I didn't fake vote anyone because I wanted to treat it like a real vote'. So you wouldn't vote anybody, even though the lynch is Town's most potent weapon? Way to be a detriment to your our team, scummo. Unfakevote: Tree Stump (Adam) Vote: Tree Stump (Adam)

Well, I'm honestly torn between Stump and Cultist. Stump seems to be actually flying under the radar, whereas Cultist jus hasn't shown up period, so I willFake Vote: The Tree Stump (Adam)

The cultist hasn't shown up to defend himself all day. POKE POKE POKE to quote the Tree Stump, who is another player I'd like to hear from. Show up, make a couple of analysis posts, and disappear once people seem to be satisfied. Scummy if you ask me - only being helpful when accused of inactivity and then flying under the radar when your accusers are content. BONAD may have prematurely given out the info he was entrusted with privately, but at the moment he could just be over eager so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Stump and Cultist, make yourselves known to the rest of us - stop hiding.

I'll take the Infectious Pill, by the way. Would like to know why Cultist hasn't shown up, but BONAD goofing about and lobbing info in public is sort of the topic at hand.

Lifesaver, I suppose. Watch for guys rushing to grab fairy tale tomorrow, now that we know it's a powerful one.

Who's to say who the scum would or wouldn't kill but the scum themselves? Big assumption to make that he'd be a bad scum kill - maybe they were worried that if he was less aggressive the town would be more likely to rally around him.

I'd love to hear that, because blocks, protection, being an inventor, or a pill could mean he's not the SK. Please enlighten us, those of you in the know.

Our vig does seem pretty chatty. Odd to see someone claim to two different non-confirmed players this early. :skeptic: What do you have to say for yourself, Witch? Inventor or SK, or do you want to go with a different story?

Funny that s/he claims to you and then doesn't work with you - you'd think a second opinion on a powerful night action from an experienced player would be the reason s/he claimed to you in the first place.