Sokolov Edward
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42177 Mercedes G500 4X4
Sokolov Edward replied to SNIPE's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
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42177 Mercedes G500 4X4
Sokolov Edward replied to SNIPE's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
Either think about how to find an extra 500 euros for Lego, or finish off Chinese parts with a file for 0.01 euros - IMHO the latter does not torment the soul so much. Go to the Lego website as if from France and get the first part with an introduction in French. -
42177 Mercedes G500 4X4
Sokolov Edward replied to SNIPE's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
Unfortunately, in Russia there are problems with YouTube, but I have problems with English. This trick doesn’t work on Chinese parts - everything is already tough there - I did without the green bar. -
42177 Mercedes G500 4X4
Sokolov Edward replied to SNIPE's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
I decided to assemble the subject from what I had from other sets. IMHO the model is not so impressive that it would be placed on a shelf next to supercars, but I already have a dark green Jeep Defender from MK and it is more beautiful. Replacements for new gears and suspension parts were made quickly. Six 1-liter cylinders were replaced with 3 2-liter cylinders with a classic crankshaft - it stood up as if it was there. I just had to modify the lid. The chassis has already been assembled without loss of functionality. The end result will be a “black gelik”. In the instructions, a gross error was found in steps 28 and 29 - inserting a red pin with a green bar will not work even for a strongman. Green bar 87994 must be installed separately at the very end of the step. I hope those who have collected other models know this, but a beginner here can get stuck for a long time. -
Another interesting model from Cada. Unfortunately, Cada stopped publishing instructions for top models and removed previously published ones. For now, I will assemble according to the instructions of Lego, MOC, Mould King and other Chinese manufacturers whose instructions are available. In this model, we are pleased with the absence of continuous masonry from brick systems - which Cada loves so much in the latest models (La Ferrari, etc.). I like their Fantasma better for the large number of mechanisms (more than 100 gears) - even if they don’t always work as intended.
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“The Lord, in His all-merciful mercy, made everything necessary simple, and everything complicated unnecessary.” I'm not complaining - I'm already horrified by the scale of the inflated number of Lego Technique parts. It looks like a commercial product forcing people to buy new kits for new parts rather than build them from old ones. For example, having more than 20,000 parts of 1,000 different types, I cannot assemble a new McLaren P1 at all, and for a Mercedes G500 I need to come up with a replacement for at least 2 parts - a green gear and a new suspension part (6452854). The green gear for the gearbox (6434577) can be assembled from 2 old parts (32187+69778) using glue, a knife and a drill. The suspension fork will also have to be replaced with a structure made from old parts. This, of course, adds drive to the assembly process, but not everything can always be replaced without losing appearance and/or functionality.
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Now there is one law in the world - whoever is stronger is right - the weak call it democracy. Cut frames and other parts only worsen the rigidity of the structure. I am for a “pure” Lego Technic - other companies make beautiful models from unique parts (Maisto, etc). In the picture, the Cada JJ6035 part can easily be replaced with the classic 32034 + 2 axles 32062. I assembled Cada Fantasma myself (without buying a kit) - there are 2 JJ6037 parts in it just like that without any obvious need - steps B243 and B244. Standard parts are cut because of Lego, and other parts are invented on their own to create the appearance of uniqueness.
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Sad picture. Apparently, under pressure from Lego, Mould King also began to “cut” the parts into pieces. In new models and new versions of old ones, cut frames and other details are found. MK even cut 60484 and 18651. This fuss reminded me of Apple’s attempts to prohibit moving your finger on the touch screen on Android.
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CADA has added several more models to the catalog of instructions. For Technics models, instructions for the C65011 dump truck have appeared. Unfortunately, we are unlikely to see instructions for the Mercedes C61503. The previously deleted instructions for La Ferrari C61505 are unlikely to return to the catalog. The Chinese competitor of CADA, the Mould King company, is still distributing all its instructions for top models too. It would be interesting to assemble a Mercedes yourself, maybe someone can share the instructions?
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IMHO Cada created such panels for the same reason as the cut frames - licensing restrictions. In designs they almost always come with bases. Technics already has too many details to call it a universal game constructor. Although this is a construction set, and not a kit for assembling a model as similar as possible to the original.
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Cada has updated the catalog of instructions. A new motorcycle, C59021, has become available from the Technics kits. The list of parts makes an increasingly sad impression - dismembered panels certainly do not improve the assembly process, IMHO. I hope they will post a Mercedes, although there are big doubts against the backdrop of the removed La Ferrari.
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IMHO, a lot depends on the behavior of the authors - if you puff out your cheeks too much, it’s easy to remain misunderstood. Here is an example of a successful resolution of such a conflict https://rebrickable.com/mocs/MOC-126456/Lnteknik/ferrari-f40-rc-errata-mk/#details Judging by the news from their website, they themselves suffer from copying.
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A remote joystick with a 6-channel control unit is separately available only from Mould King model M-0019 (about $25). For a servo motor, proportional control is conditional. After using a regular push-button remote control, you need to get used to it and IMHO it’s not always convenient. The block itself for the model also differs from the usual one in dimensions - it is 1 STUD wider and cannot always be easily installed.
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If Lego does not want to incur the costs of “legalizing” user B-models, then to attract them they could somehow encourage the authors of the most successful and popular designs in their repository. Minimum costs and maximum benefits for everyone. Most buyers, at best, will go to the Lego website, and only advanced fans will search in specific catalogs like rebricable.
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As an option, Lego could create its own open and free repository of B-models from users on its website with its own control. This would make the models produced more popular. Now B-models are actually left to the rebricable site and for the most part are paid, even for inexpensive sets, which does not make them widely available. I was previously involved in amateur radio and there is no such commercialism as in the Lego community.
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It would be great if Lego released free instructions for alternative assembly of sets, but this seems more like fiction. Somewhere in the news, a “free build” initiative for Lego Technic was announced, but nothing more was heard about it. This model is used by the Chinese - for example Decool - they produce small cars and on each box they offer to buy another model in order to assemble another more complex car from 2. They also have sets from which you can assemble 10 or more different models. Similar sets are also sold by Cada, better known in this forum (71001 and 71002). If a game set of parts is called a “constructor”, then this initially implies that several different models can be assembled from it, and not just one.
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Thanks for the list of parts. Nothing too bad - 3 parts and 1 gear are a little confusing - you need to look at the assembly instructions to understand the possibility of replacing them. If Cada publishes instructions, you can try to assemble it. I really liked the Cada C61048 Fantasma - it fits perfectly into the concept of the technique due to the complexity of the mechanisms (more than 100 gears) and the body design. I assembled it myself in black and red - I don’t really like the original white.