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[MOC] 8070 Spyder
MODORO replied to MODORO's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
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Hi Mysh First of all, I apologize for my late response I make in-line responses to your questions as follows - May i ask if this mod is already including the suspension improvements that appear in other mods such as "ultimate playable" and "pimp up my porsche"? -> No, I made this MOD before there were introduced.. sorry. - May I also ask, if anyone has tried the BuWizz? It seems to me that this set may benefit greatly, as it will reduce some of the weight on the front side, and also add some more power that may help in the 4th gear transmission. -> That seems to be great idea.. I'd like to try it later. I have read someone that Madoro was considering a v2.0, do we have any update recently from Madoro? -> Sorry again, I have just finished another model "8070 spyder" and have a plan to make other MOC model, it's not 42056. However, I'll apply the enhancements from this 42056 MOD. Thanks.
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Among the LEGO models released in 2011,"TECHNIC 8070 Supercar" had full of working features and functions, e.g., gear wheel steering, realistic suspension, moving pistons, opening the scissor doors, extending the rear spoiler and popping the hood, nice and elegant exterior as well. This version of 8070 is a renovated version of TECHNIC 8070 Supercar to have features, for example, remote control and 4-speed gearbox shifting, but also it is re-designed as a roadster car, namely “8070 Spyder”. The major features of “8070 Spyder” are as follows Mounteddrive motors (PF XL-motor 2x) Mounteda steering motor (PF S-motor 1x) Mounteda gear shifting motor (PF M-motor 1x) Mounteda 4-speed sequential gearbox to enhance the durability and the efficiency of power transmission enough to climb a slight up-hill (at the physical limit of LEGO gear parts) Mounteda midship engine-block running 8 cylinders Mounteda rechargeable or AAA battery boxes Mounteda SBRICK for the remote-control capability
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That's a good news! And I appreciate for your praise.
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It's a good news for you to finish yours, and thanks for your encouragement.
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Congratulstion! That's greate news (-: And I appreciate for your comments. I'll fix them soon for others who will follow you. Thanks.
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I've not tried using timer for shifting yet... but I do not expect it will work well. From the begining, you can observe the orange colored shifting liftatm under the seat that indicates you the position of 4 speed gears.... at last you should learn from experience how to control it exactly... for example you will listen different sound while running gears are shifting to another speed. Another alternative is substituting two red-colored 3L connector (26287) with two driving ring connectors (18948) that will give you indications of shifting gears with two successive sounds like 'tick~ tick'. However, I am not sure one M motor has enough torque to move the driving rings... You may have to substitute two knob wheels to reduce resistance...
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Please fine the linked screenshot files below... 1. main display : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0jm4Zq86q-nUU1SVTFhamFYa3M/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0jm4Zq86q-nQjd1SUdzRHV1THM/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0jm4Zq86q-nR0k4bXg5SlNVcm8/view?usp=sharing 2. Sbrick profile configuration 1 : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0jm4Zq86q-nR0k4bXg5SlNVcm8/view?usp=sharing 3. Sbrick profile configuration 2: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0jm4Zq86q-nQjd1SUdzRHV1THM/view?usp=sharing
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Sorry for late response... I'll send you a screenshot of my Sbrick profile through e-mail.. Thanks.
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Sbrick configuration supports it... you can combine four distinctive ports into one control channel.
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I can reply only to your question that I can understand... I used my smartphone for Tx and a pair of Sbricks for Rx... I also used two pairs of Power Function LED lights. Sorry I don't understand your question about battery boxes..
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Oh.. sorry, I missed your comment~ I'll correct it soon.. thanks~
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Ok.. I see.. I updated the building instruction PDF file and uploaded it on rebrickable just before.. removing 2850 from the additional parts as you commented. Thanks~
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I also tried it, but I found that it has parts that are not used for BOX1... for example, 4x 24118, 1x 24118pr0001, 24118pr0002...
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Ok.. I just found what caused the difference of 2850... actually it should be 2850b. I'll update the instruction file again.. All thease problems are because I don't have exact list of parts in the original BOX1. I infered them using a MLCAD model of the original 42056. You made a comparison to a set 42056-1-s1, which also does not have exact part-list, maybe more parts than the actual BOX1. Finding one by one missmatche, I'm trying to fix as many as possible.. but I'm not sure all of them can be found and fixed.. Is there anyone who has exact list of part in the BOX1?
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You're right. When you finish box 4, box 1 would be already combined.
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Box 2 ~ 4 are out of scope. Part list of this MOD is equivalent only to Box 1. You don't have to compare with the original 42056 box1. I already did it for you, "additional part list" in page 126 is a differentiation of the original 42056 and this MOD.
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Sorry for late response.. as I was fixing the part-list problem. It turned out that the part-list from Rebrickable is correct, but the part-list from instruction page 126 and 127 was wrong. Using the same source 3D CAD file, they made different results. Finally I found what caused the difference... the reason was that MLCAD did not count parts from submodels that were duplicated in the main model. I just updated part-list in the instruction file. Regarding the part-list in page 125, it was generated from LPUB. I still do not know the exact reason. Later, I'll rebuild the instruction file with LPUB and look it over whether this problem is fixed by resolving the MLCAD problem above. Sorry, now you have to ignore page 125. It is substituted by the part-list figures from Rebrickable. Thanks~
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Thanks~ I updated the instruction file to include both total and additional part-list to build this MOD, so you don't have to compare (-: Among the movies above, part 9: binding the renovated chassis to the body of PORSCHE shows how to install the battery boxes. Actually battery installation is just on your disposal.. infinitely many methods are opened to you~ Regarding Sbric profile, I made a custom profile for this MOD.. I think I can share soon~
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I think that, how to put the battery box is just on your disposal. In my case, to minimize changes from the original, I made a slight change of backseat shelvs to make a room for batteries. and.. you're right! you have only to reassemble the chassis of PORSCHE 911. Besides power function parts you mentioned, additional TECHNIC parts are also needed, beams, axles etc. Thanks~ No. MOC-6276 is a modified set of TECHNIC 42056 PORSCHE 911 GT3 RS model. So, you need to buy power function motors, battery boxes, Sbricks and additional parts including beams and axles etc. Thanks
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Thanks for your good points... As mainly focusing on making 42056 PORSCHE body move... I did not consider enhancing dampening mechanism, especially front axle needs more suspension.. That's true! Regarding the mechanism of gear-shifting... it's simple. I just use one M-motor and several gears to rotate gear-shifting warm gears and make four steps. Another point to notice from this motorized version is how to reinforce 4 speed gears enough to make the heavy body of 42056 PORSCHE climb up-hill to the physical limit of LEGO gears...
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I finally finished making a building instruction PDF file now... Please find the linked file in my google drive as follows https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0jm4Zq86q-nMThJaW5HVWxxQm8/view?usp=sharing
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Thanks~ I hope you purchase 42056 and experience the motorized PORSCHE soon~ Renovation version 1.1 is ongoing, and when ready, building instructions would be shared on this topic.
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Thanks for your praise~ When finishing further modification (ver 1.1) and making the building instructions, I'll update this topic^^