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Damn, this game looks just too cool... Just a real easy and basic programmed version to test out first would be great... always room for Hat's off, would kill to be able to do something like that myself! *y*

Yep, might have known I'd find a post with all those entries regarding that movie... it was damn good! Serves the pirate scum right for attacking Fort Eldorado! Any other links to other animated lego pirate movies... there are loads on youtube but the words lego, pirate and animation only bring up so many results.

Now we're talkin' How about we extend this thread to include the lists of all games too, electronic, boardgames, whatever...?

Mr Phes Well I'm gonna be pulling down all my old catalogues out of storage soonish and when I do I will get an idea of what sets I bought in England and which ones I bought in South Africa and get a comparison in terms of the names... I have a feeling that in South Africa the catalogue names were the same as that used in say the US or Australia as though SA imported lego, they have never been manufactured in South Africa and there is no offices etc here - it's the anti-legoland >:-( but basically I've always felt that the English catalogues are the ones with the real alternative names as many of the model descriptions have a more British ring to them... Port Royal, The Sea Lion etc...

Yep... a few of those names are first nature to me. I remember getting the catalogues from both England and South Africa during the 90's and seeing the different names for the various sets! In many cases I grew up using the 2nd name rather than what most seem to consider the official name of many of the sets. The Black Seas Barracuda was always known to me as The Dark Shark but in the case of the Clipper, I used to call it just that rather than The Sea Hawk. Imperial Trading Post was always Port Royal to me and The Imperial Flagship - The Sea Lion. These names just seemed so much more British and with character. But then in some cases the two different catalogues agree on the same name... it just never made any sense...

Whilst I am always more keen on Imperial Forces, Pirates secondly and Islanders last on my list I love the Islanders for two reasons... 1. I am able to make settings and models with some historical use... especially when you are using the Conquistador or Hispanic figures as these forming the early collonial period mean less pirates and British about. 2. It's nice that my men of the King's Navy get to shoot at someone who can't really shoot back the way the Pirates do... It's good target practice for the troops! :-P

What, real lego in real stores?! 'Tis folklore to be sure... all the treasures of Eldorado couldn't compare to the very idea! Even in little ol' South Africa the merchandise and marketing is about 6 months behind the world but real lego was what... a decade ago? Actually no... JT and the Adventurers still counts as real lego but other than that the last few years of lego have been very pants in comparison to the 90's.

Er... who's Richie Dulin? Port Bruiqe... news to me.

Eish... what's with no new replies? C'mon guys my deodrant can't smell that bad...

And this is post 9 I believe? lol, think I'm buggered there... Okay Mister Phes, do what you have to but I was trying to encourage them all to talk about options non British or French related. Btw, are you the governor of Port Block, NSW? That website was fantastic and had an idea it might be you, you as you are Australian...

lol, I see it's a unanimous vote for Option 1... the bad news is I ended up going for Option 2. :-D I had the exact paint colours for option 1, but ended up taking them back and choosing 4 more natural tints - one for sea (deep), sea (shallows), beach and inland. Whilst using the exact colours would have been more lego it would also have prompted me to be very flat and exact in the laying of those colours onto the masonite plates and I kinda felt it would look a bit boring with flat colour. So I have gone with Option 2 but extended the beach and shallows like lego never did and the colour is fused and gradual looking very natural and textured unlike the flat printed islands of official baseplates. Now before you guys start chasing me around the room with a cutlass I have to say it's looking pretty damn good, reminds me of aerial shots from Google Earth. I'm still having trouble in the digital cam department so I'll get back to you with some pics but most the models seem to fit nicely into the look and feel and they are that bit more emphasised. The other aspect to this is that these plates could now be used to display anything from regular hobby model ships to other varieties of pirate figures etc but strictly speaking the proportions and ratio is really lego sized *sweet* The whole thing is sadly flat however as it is baseplates, albeit big ones and I've made it thus because the whole thing needs to be able to fold down and be easy to store... that's the builders challenge but I wish to make some 3D elements to help complement the environment. Okay in some ways it's complimentary to lego that lego is the only thing 3D on the scene but I do fancy some rocks jutting out of the water and a volcano or something. Your fellas ideas on what materials to use in this department?

Masonite is a kind of processed wood/chip compound, usually you can buy in sheets and we all commonly call hardboard in most hardwares. It's quite thin but hard in the case of the sheets so ideal for baseplates. For actual 3D things like cliffs etc I'd probably use something else.

Okay, let's hope this better illustrates my argument about colour. I have a couple problems with PC's and cameras at the moment so I've very quickly mocked up my point using Paintbrush. Hopefully the bitmap will be attached to this post. Option 1 illustrates my first Idea to purchase the exact colours of the lego pirate baseplates themselves for my scenery. Those small white squares are Forbidden Island and Sabre/Shipwreck Island baseplates to represent lego's own colour. Option 2 shows those same official lego baseplates but now what I would do is use the more 'natural' tones for sea, sand and foliage etc. Obviously I can't do anything about the lego baseplates themselves but I felt that option 1 would be too much of a colour explosion and for that matter it wouldn't illuminate the models much as they'd blend too much into the landscape. With the more natural option the models will stand out more and this also allows me to use the scenery for non-lego displays such as model ships etc. Ignore the scale... this is just to represent the Great Colour Argument as it has become known for me. I would like everyone to vote Option 1 or Option 2. Grrr... ironic that is your name Thanks for the tip! Cast your vote on what the better colour scheme is. *y*

Okay well I when I was kiddy-wink I used to imagine the Blues and Reds were both British, simply different divisions operating under a different commission, say East India Co. or something. My main beef with the blues being Brits though today is that that blue is too darn light for the navy and officer class. If we come up with some of those dark blue torsos then maybe we're talking. Btw... I have a slightly similar thread to this started so have a look...

URL for the other discussion then gents? As much as these kinds of things may repeat themselves isn't it best to revive a topic every now and then when the old threads get dusty and neglected. X-D Yes, read the other thread but I'll tell you why I don't think we should merge it... The other thread debates exclusively the nationality of the official figures which is admittedly in part what my post was about however I am also asking the question of what would make Dutch, ortuguese, Spanish forces etc... And for that matter I am debating the various colours available and how we should associate them to varying nationalities or divisions.

Grrr.... Mister Phes I tried to do a bitmap image to illustrate my whole colour scheme and can't seem to attach it to my post explaining it all! the limit of 100k doesn't help and i don't have my little image stuck on the web so can't use the url image link... Help!

Just sat there thinking today how I also seem to be inclined to watch Pirate or Maritime/Naval type movies and likewise read books of the same genre. Wanted to list what I've seen and read or know about as books and movies that might be of interest to the big kids in us all. If anyone can think of anything else please reply and maybe we can create a big database for pirate/age of discovery fanatics. Movies: 1. POTC: Curse of the Black Pearl (AS IF I NEEDED TO MENTION IT) 2. POTC: Dead Man's Chest (Yeah yeah, I know!) 3. Master and Commander: The Far Side Of The World (Any hope of a sequel? There were plenty books) 4. Cutthroat Island (Can't remember that too well, the one with Genna Davis) 5. The Bounty (The one with Antony Hopkins and Mel Gibson) 6. 1492: Conquest of Paradise (Never seen this... is it any good? Gerard De...whatever) 7. The Goonies (Yeah I know it's not exactly period but hey...) 8. The Horatio Hornblower series (Those rocked!) 9. (Don't know the name but it was a mini-series on Capt. James Cook... a good one) 10. Blackbeard's Ghost (Bad Bad Disney!) 11. Running out of memory... what else guys? Books: 1. Birds Of Prey - Wilbur Smith 2. Monsoon - Wilbur Smith 3. Treasure Island - Robert Louis Stephens/Stevens 4. Patrick O' Brian - Is that his name? The dude who wrote all the Master and Comm and Hornblowers. 5. er... help?!

Hi guys... Thought I'd throw this out on the table... Lego obviously never made particular refference to any European colonial powers in creating the Bluecoat Soldiers and the Redcoat Imperial Guards but we have all with some good reason automatically associated the Imperial Guards as the British, even though in the case of the British Navy we should be using dark navy blue. It stands to all rights then that the soldiers should be French but if one was to make use of the minifigs for historical perspective I wanted to see what everyone had in mind. The soldiers could also double up as the one and only attempt made by Scotland to found a colony in the New World prior to the union in 1711. They are a little too early to be made use as American forces. I know we have the torso designs here to make up what we want but just wanted to get an idea of what in their true state the reds and blues should represent. In some ways the model titles like Port Royal, Broadside's Brigg etc imply British but Eldorado Fortress - Spanish? I always grew up associating colours like Red - British, Blue - French, Yellow - Spanish etc and had thought it would be great had lego developed the torsos in colours like green, yellow, black etc so as to represent alternative European powers or military divisions etc. Was thrilled with the conquistador minifigs when they came out... felt a Spanish and Portuguese sense was strongly needed. Anyway, what colours on the imperial troop torso designs should reflect which European powers. I have recently made a green soldier and he looked amazing. Green being my favourite colour and the most likely candidate colour after red and blue. He just looked so Italian even though Italy was a divided country and not a colonial power at the time so that doesn't really apply. My next thought though was that a lot of Dutch colonial troops used to wear green coats. Could green troops be th are Dutchies? What are all your thoughts?

Great Review I bought myself one in superb condition in a perfect box without a scratch and got it for about 35 Pounds but the big bonus was that the dealer didn't know the contents as he had obviously purchased it off someone else so when it arrived I got a few extra soldier minifigs and boats... Bargain of my lego life, my Caribbean Clipper... :) I first saw my friend's one back in 1990 and he first introduced me to lego pirates but by the time i got into the collecting i focused on Imperial Guards as opposed to Soldiers and only now am I making some small gains in the Men-In-Blue department.

You miss my point... I can get exactly the same colours as lego - I have them but I'm deliberately deciding to go for more natural colours by taking back those perfect colours. I've just spent too much time umming and ahhing about the whole thing... Wanted to see if people thought it was better to match lego's colours or go natural islandscape so that the bright colours of the lego models would show up more.

Thanks for all the replies guys... Today I bought some paint which is the exact colours of the initial island baseplates, i.e. the green, the blue and the yellow. I've looked at it at great length and whilst it would match perfectly so you wouldn't be able to tell my masonite baseboards from the lego ones I kinda feel all the bright colour would be too much when the whole thing is over 2.5 m squared. The colours I do choose however have to be flat as I can't afford to be buying millions of different tints etc. I think I'll take the 'lego coloured' paints back to the store and get more natural or sedated tints. Another problem with matching lego's designs is that the beach strip on the Sabre Island, Forbidden Island type base plates was always too limiting, granted the plates are small but as my plates are 60 cm sq. i can afford to be more generous in my beaches. I think I will use the exact shade as the creme lego baseplates for the Adventurers Egyptian stuff... this looks natural enough anyway but would replace the hard yellow as sand. Again any other ideas? Maybe I'm just wanting you guys to hold my hand at the paint store. :'-(

Hi-dee-hi folks Finally back in South Africa and reunited with my lego! I will have to leave them all again as I'm only here for a few weeks but I have in mind to make some scenery out of masonite etc and then assemble all my models and take photos before leaving again. Now in terms of the land and sea I want to create for the Pirate lego I'm wandering whether to initate the original lego lego bases in terms of colour and land, beach, sea ratios'm or whether to do like Lego themselves on all the packaging... create a more natural choice of colours for the model display. When I done the whole thing should be around 3 metres square so it will be a large archipeligo of land and sea. I'm tending to think I should go natural because the lego bases like that for Sabre Island etc were never really proportionate to the minifigs... the beaches being about 1 cm etc and the colour is very dramatic and instant. The other aspect is if i keep the paint finishes in more natural tones the sets and models will look more enhanced... I just wanted to see what you guys thought before I go ahead with it all and if you had any other ideas. Basically I'm creating baseplates as these will be easy to fold up and store when I travel again. Would love to create more 3D cliffs and hills etc but these create problems for storage

POTC 2 was horrid!!! Yes Davy Jones and crew looked cool from some perspective but I don't think I'd buy the minifigs as I am still in mourning for how bad the film was in comparison to the first movie! I waited months and months to watch that movie because I was too busy travelling and when I finally bought the DVD and watched it I really considered taking it back to the store to get my money back! >:-(

Cool bananas! Imagine you're not taking well to all the dust about... Look forward to seeing it all upgraded.

Yeah, count me in, would be keen to have a look see at the Pirate format.