First year ever that i'm buying nothing... car+car+car=coma.

[TeamThrifty]

17 hours ago, allanp said:

would there be so many complaints about the number of cars if the non car sets were better, because I really don't think there would be.

No there wouldn't. If Cars made up 70% of sets, but the remaining 30% were excellent i wouldn't mind at all. But what are the big-set, none-car options this year? Little sets don't float my boat... the cars are 3 or 4k pieces. Give us a comparable big set.

[gyenesvi]

22 hours ago, Jundis said:

It really comes down to this I think:

I would add to this one that at least some car sets should also have some innovative stuff in them.

17 hours ago, allanp said:

I do wonder, would there be so many complaints about the number of cars if the non car sets were better, because I really don't think there would be.

I think there would be less complaints, but people would still point out the emptiness/repetitiveness/lack of functions in those car sets. But at least then it could be defendable by arguing that it's just extra on top of the good amount of good quality sets.

[mahjqa]

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I would add to this one that at least some car sets should also have some innovative stuff in them.

Like some sort of drifting mechanism with spinning rear tires and new suspension components.

 

So sad that no set like that was released this year. 

[Amt0571]

Last year I bought a used 42043 Arocs since it was a set I always wanted and I didn't find anything interesting on the lineup. This year the lineup is even less interesting and I'm considering buying my first CADA set... probably the Remote Control Excavator C61082W.

I have bought the Temple Bounty for my son though, but only because I found it with a 25% discount.

Edited November 7, 2025 by Amt0571

[howitzer]

On 11/6/2025 at 11:33 AM, Jundis said:

It really comes down to this I think:

Most Technic fanatics don't mind that cars are making the majority of new entries, if:

- the number of non-car technic models is still sufficient (lets say 10 cars per year and 10 other models, or even 12 / 8 would be fine for me)
- the quality of the non-car models is still consistently high (looking down at you and spitting out, 42215)
- a decent mix of Heavy Machinery / Trucks / Agriculture / ... is maintained
- a decent mix of small / medium / big models is maintained
- a decent mix of non-electric, electric, RC and pneumatic models is maintained, focus is on non-electric.

In the video of @kbalage at min 1:00, the graph shows that the sum of non-heavy and other machines are very consistent over the years with 7...11 models.

This is very much it. Cars are not interesting (especially when they don't have any interesting mechanisms but just the repeating the same functions over and over again) but I don't mind them being out there - it's the low number and poor quality of non-car sets that I find disappointing. Small sets are not very interesting either way, there have been some nice medium sized sets but even them are too few and far between to really be that satisfying and the largest sets feel much too expensive for what they do.

Edited November 7, 2025 by howitzer

[gyenesvi]

4 hours ago, mahjqa said:

So sad that no set like that was released this year. 

I did not mean to say that we didn't have it this year, I meant to add it as a requirement in general. You are right, and on multiple occasions I said that I am satisfied with this year's new parts and hope this trend continues in the future.

[Jundis]

10 hours ago, gyenesvi said:

I would add to this one that at least some car sets should also have some innovative stuff in them.

That's true, we are still missing a convertable since the 8448 from 1999! Also where are the FWD cars, which make the majority of streets vehicles?

4 hours ago, howitzer said:

I don't mind them being out there

A big plus for more sets each year are the new pieces they bring us. Especially new suspension components, gears and panels. The latter in multiple colours.

Edited November 7, 2025 by Jundis

[Auroralampinen]

And the most depressing thing is. That in finland the jesko has always been cheaper than the crappy dump truck. So cars do sell better because they are priced much better than interesting stuff. And the interesting stuff usually is really basic and boring:(. 

[GoldVillage]

On 11/7/2025 at 8:31 AM, TeamThrifty said:

No there wouldn't. If Cars made up 70% of sets, but the remaining 30% were excellent i wouldn't mind at all. But what are the big-set, none-car options this year? Little sets don't float my boat... the cars are 3 or 4k pieces. Give us a comparable big set.

We gonna need years with 0% cars/bikes and 100% construction equipment (and similar) sets. Theres plenty of options here; like a large heavy duty forklift, log stacker, backhoe, forest machines, wheel dozer, scraper. Some of them could work great just as manually mechanical operated while others with pneumatics. And bring back the universal sets!!

[Auroralampinen]

4 hours ago, GoldVillage said:

We gonna need years with 0% cars/bikes and 100% construction equipment (and similar) sets. Theres plenty of options here; like a large heavy duty forklift, log stacker, backhoe, forest machines, wheel dozer, scraper. Some of them could work great just as manually mechanical operated while others with pneumatics. And bring back the universal sets!!

I agree:). 

[howitzer]

11 hours ago, GoldVillage said:

We gonna need years with 0% cars/bikes and 100% construction equipment (and similar) sets. Theres plenty of options here; like a large heavy duty forklift, log stacker, backhoe, forest machines, wheel dozer, scraper. Some of them could work great just as manually mechanical operated while others with pneumatics. And bring back the universal sets!!

I wouldn't mind (though my wallet would) but never going to happen, not unless something changes drastically. Cars are obviously very profitable so that's what they're going to make.

[allanp]

Lots of comments here I agree with. Absolutely bring back universal sets, and make them studded (parts are still in production) and it would serve as a bridge between Regular Lego and studless Technic. 

And yes, where are the front wheel drive cars? They make up most of what we see on the roads and are what probably most drivers have experienced. A front wheel drive car with sideways mounted inline 4 engine, compact 4 speed gearbox with a linkage/flex cables to a manual 8880 style stick shift and McPherson strut suspension would be one of the most innovative Technic sets since the Airbus helicopter, I'd say more so, and it's a car so it's win win!

[Kostq]

mcpherson in Technic is too high will raise the hood/bonnet line and requires a big vehicle to look proportional.
1:8 scale hot hatch as a flagship wouldn't sell as much as a hypercar imho

[Toastie]

37 minutes ago, allanp said:

Absolutely bring back universal sets, and make them studded (parts are still in production) and it would serve as a bridge between Regular Lego and studless Technic. 

This: Nothing to add. Absolutely my world.

And then there are the sales/revenue numbers in whatever AI driven spreadsheet apps (as "programs" have become old school) TLG uses, telling them to make more "cars". And flowers, X-Wings, minimalized "Whatevers".

I am just sticking to and bying the old/used TLG stuff: Technic, Train, System, Electric, Education, Model Team ... it is so nicely "safe". It simply feels very good. For everything glitzy - there are soooo many options.

Best
Thorsten  

[2GodBDGlory]

2 hours ago, allanp said:

Lots of comments here I agree with. Absolutely bring back universal sets, and make them studded (parts are still in production) and it would serve as a bridge between Regular Lego and studless Technic. 

And yes, where are the front wheel drive cars? They make up most of what we see on the roads and are what probably most drivers have experienced. A front wheel drive car with sideways mounted inline 4 engine, compact 4 speed gearbox with a linkage/flex cables to a manual 8880 style stick shift and McPherson strut suspension would be one of the most innovative Technic sets since the Airbus helicopter, I'd say more so, and it's a car so it's win win!

That's some MOC inspiration there!

I've done FWD transverse engine cars with motorized sequential transmissions, but I don't think I've ever done one with a manual shifter. It'd be some interesting linkage work to get that to work with a transverse transmission

[howitzer]

12 hours ago, allanp said:

Lots of comments here I agree with. Absolutely bring back universal sets, and make them studded (parts are still in production) and it would serve as a bridge between Regular Lego and studless Technic. 

And yes, where are the front wheel drive cars? They make up most of what we see on the roads and are what probably most drivers have experienced. A front wheel drive car with sideways mounted inline 4 engine, compact 4 speed gearbox with a linkage/flex cables to a manual 8880 style stick shift and McPherson strut suspension would be one of the most innovative Technic sets since the Airbus helicopter, I'd say more so, and it's a car so it's win win!

I don't think this kind of car is realistically possible with current parts, so it would require a number of new parts at least for transmission and suspension, and I don't think TLG is willing to invest so much into this kind of thing. Also apparently normal cars aren't interesting to public but only offroaders and really fast cars. Which is of course a shame as the lineup with only these is really dull and repetitive for AFOLs but I sort of see why they do it this way - sports cars and offroaders have an appeal to kids and their parents who while buying only a few sets ever still make up the largest segment of Technic-buying customers. So endless repetition of the same old functions and vehicle types don't really hurt sales while any sort of new/experimental stuff is a big risk.

[Stereo]

I don't know, I'm guessing people call ~2010-2011 the peak of consistently having trucks in the lineup?

2010: 2 car/motorcycle, 3 heavy duty trucks, 4 off-road equipment (excavator/tractor), 1 helicopter

2011: 3 car/SUV, 5 heavy duty trucks, 1 off-road equipment (backhoe), 1 helicopter

2012: 2 car/quadcycle, 3 heavy duty trucks, 2 off-road equipment (tractor/crane), 2 aircraft

2013: 7 car/truck/motorcycle, 2 heavy duty trucks, 2 off-road equipment (excavator/backhoe), 1 hovercraft

 

It's not really that favorable compared to modern era

2024: 12 car/truck/motorcycle, 2 heavy duty trucks, 6 off-road equipment (incl. space rovers), 1 aircraft, 1 boat, 1 orrery

2025: 13 car/truck/motorcycle, 1 heavy duty truck, 5 off-road equipment (excavator/loader), 1 aircraft, 1 submarine

 

Categories aren't necessarily super well defined, I put anything that's people-transport in the first group (monster trucks, pickup trucks), anything that has functionality and can drive highway speeds in the second (mobile cranes, flatbed trucks, semi trucks), other wheeled/tracked vehicles with functions in the third (so sort of 'anything else')

This year's heavy duty truck does let down the category a bit compared to 15 years ago, but last year had 42175 which I'd say is a decent member of that category...

 

 

For me the wheel loader is the only 'must buy' of the year but I haven't actually picked it up yet - got a good deal on an 8865 which seemed more urgent than stuff that's still at retail sale.

[Lego Tom]

On 11/3/2025 at 11:43 AM, ludov said:

Do we need yet another topic to complain about the number of cars in the lineup?

Among the dedicated MOC topics currently on page 1 of this subforum, I count 12 cars, 2 trucks, 1 truck/crane, 1 combine harvester and 1 robotic arm. I can’t blame LEGO for concluding that people like cars. 
 

 

The obvious answer to your question is YES, it is needed! LEGO isn't listening to any of the other threads. LEGO can design cranes, bulldozers, trucks, etc., that look like those items but their cars only vaguely resemble the cars they are supposed to be. LEGO is obviously making money off cars, but that won't stop us from complaining about them abandoning those of us who desire construction machinery.

Edited November 11, 2025 by Lego Tom

[Timorzelorzworz]

2 hours ago, Lego Tom said:

LEGO isn't listening to any of the other threads

They don't care about this forum at all. They produce and make things they trained in and what sells, not what a very small range of people in a forum want.

Edited November 11, 2025 by Timorzelorzworz

[Lego Tom]

On 11/11/2025 at 12:03 PM, Timorzelorzworz said:

They don't care about this forum at all. They produce and make things they trained in and what sells, not what a very small range of people in a forum want.

Do you know that for a fact or is that your opinion? In a truck forum I used to participate in, representatives from the factory would drop in from time to time. I suspect many companies do this. Just because someone doesn't post, does not mean they don't read. Really, if you think about it, most companies want to know what consumers are thinking about, going so far as to hire firms to poll them with surveys. A forum lets them do that for free, outside of paying someone to collect and process the data. Maybe LEGO doesn't ever read this forum, but if they don't, they aren't as business savvy as they should be.

[Bartybum]

1 hour ago, Lego Tom said:

Do you know that for a fact or is that your opinion? In a truck forum I used to participate in, representatives from the factory would drop in from time to time. I suspect many companies do this. Just because someone doesn't post, does not mean they don't read. Really, if you think about it, most companies want to know what consumers are thinking about, going so far as to hire firms to poll them with surveys. A forum lets them do that for free, outside of paying someone to collect and process the data. Maybe LEGO doesn't ever read this forum, but if they don't, they aren't as business savvy as they should be.

It's practically guaranteed that they read this forum, but it's only going to be one of many sources of feedback they have. I'm also not sure they put much stock in our opinions here to be honest. We're quite a small pool - there's very few of us in this forum that regularly leave comments

Edited November 13, 2025 by Bartybum

[Jundis]

6 hours ago, Bartybum said:

It's practically guaranteed that they read this forum, but it's only going to be one of many sources of feedback they have. I'm also not sure they put much stock in our opinions here to be honest.

Pretty much sums this up.

Actually it is a self-fullfilling prophecy:

--> Lego brings out more cars and less "real" Technic models
--> EB community reacts in saying the line-up is less interesting
--> die-hard fans will buy less new models and focus on second-hand market
--> EB community has less impact on the sales figures
--> repeat from the beginning

I'm pretty sure there will be some models, maybe even in 2026, that will be highly praised by the community. But I don't really expect a technic prime year like e.g. 2016. 

Still I have high hopes for 2027. An 50th anniversary "technic" year with just cars would be a disaster.

[allanp]

You have to remember that TLG is not one person. The Technic team alone is made up of many people. I'm sure some do read this forum and even sympathise with us. 

You also have to remember that a big corporation isn't going to be as quick to react to criticisms as one guy with a 3d printer. If they are addressing the shortfalls of C+, I wouldn't expect the results of that much sooner that next year.

Edited November 13, 2025 by allanp

[Mikdun]

On 11/9/2025 at 9:26 PM, allanp said:

Absolutely bring back universal sets, and make them studded (parts are still in production) and it would serve as a bridge between Regular Lego and studless Technic. 

I'll second that!

[Timorzelorzworz]

15 hours ago, Lego Tom said:

Do you know that for a fact or is that your opinion?

It's just my opinion with some experience from the past years. For decades, people in this forum are screaming for a Technic JCB model. Was any JCB model released since there? No. I don't believe that TLG invests time and resources in reading forums to collect statistical data. The past has shown that they are not interested in community opinions and wishes and that they won't be either. They design and produce models that the market regulates. TLG shows several patterns from the late '90s, but compared to the past they won't change things and stick to what is working well. Cars are selling good, especially the smaller 15 stud wides for pocket money. They are an addition to the lineup, not a replacement for other models. Since we have these many cars, each lineup has grown significantly per year. If TLG were doing badly, they would look for a change, but obviously they don't. Personally, I'm not a big fan of this trend either, but as long as there is demand for the models, nothing will change. The small 15 stud cars are quick money for TLG, even the ones with the color swaps. Try it in stud.io, make a model with a good 200 pages instructions and then change the models color. The instructions remains, the color has been changed. Zero effort for a complete new model that sales. As long as people support this laziness of overpaid danish employee by purchasing these models, nothing will change.

Edited November 13, 2025 by Timorzelorzworz