thekoRngear Posted July 30, 2025 Posted July 30, 2025 Man, that thing is compact with lots of technicality! Quote
gyenesvi Posted July 30, 2025 Posted July 30, 2025 Looks really good, can't wait to go an buy it at the weekend :) The chassis does not seem to be too tight in the back, so I am wondering if a more proper 2-link rear suspension with a ball joint would be possible at this scale. Only thing I see against it is that the HoG steering from the spare tire would have to be routed differently. Also, I'm curious if it would be possible to make this AWD with a front live axle instead of the independent suspension (which I know would not be realistic in this case, just for the exercise). Quote
Ngoc Nguyen Posted July 30, 2025 Author Posted July 30, 2025 (edited) 7 minutes ago, gyenesvi said: Also, I'm curious if it would be possible to make this AWD with a front live axle instead of the independent suspension (which I know would not be realistic in this case, just for the exercise). I did make that happen with my mini Zetros, so it's possible to replicate it in this model, but the engine has to be changed to inline instead of V type. Edited July 30, 2025 by Ngoc Nguyen Quote
gyenesvi Posted July 30, 2025 Posted July 30, 2025 2 minutes ago, Ngoc Nguyen said: I did make that happen with my mini Zetros, so it's possible to replicate it in this model, Cool! 2 minutes ago, Ngoc Nguyen said: but the engine has to be changed to inline instead of V type. Which might not be a problem according to the first video reviewer.. Quote
Ngoc Nguyen Posted July 31, 2025 Author Posted July 31, 2025 Hi everyone, this is a wheel swap from M_longer Quote
NV Lego technic Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 @gyenesvi reminds me of your zetros/raptor alternate Quote
gyenesvi Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 13 minutes ago, NV Lego technic said: @gyenesvi reminds me of your zetros/raptor alternate Indeed! Looks like a mini version :) There has been a few nice Bronco MOCs in the past years, not just mine, and I've been wondering whether this set is a response to them by Lego. If yes, I'm glad :) Quote
NV Lego technic Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 On 7/30/2025 at 12:35 PM, Ngoc Nguyen said: I did make that happen with my mini Zetros, so it's possible to replicate it in this model, but the engine has to be changed to inline instead of V type. I have made several mocs, all in bronco scale, all of them with AWD live axles, and V6 engines. Quote
1gor Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 It is up... https://youtu.be/nie5I2deGdA?si=6kNFzTjrgiqVw3YX Quote
Paul B Technic Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 That was a great review and after watching it, this is a must buy, just to build some c models. Quote
2GodBDGlory Posted August 1, 2025 Posted August 1, 2025 I am impressed by the reviews! The front axle suspension is really compact, and it just overall seems nice I'm also really happy with the price! After watching the review I thought I'd check just out of curiosity, and $80 CAD for ~940 pieces would have been good 10 years ago, let alone today--plus, there's lots of desirable new parts in there! People complain a lot about modern Lego prices, so it's nice to see that there's still exceptions out there. Quote
Paul B Technic Posted August 3, 2025 Posted August 3, 2025 Review - LEGO Technic 42213 - Ford Bronco SUV https://paulbtechnic.blogspot.com/2025/08/review-lego-technic-42213-ford-bronco.html Quote
Jundis Posted August 4, 2025 Posted August 4, 2025 Got mine and built it over the weekend. The model is still very good and a perfect parts donor: New tires, new fenders, new ball socket parts, 1x9 flip flop beams, .... But I am not so impressed about the building process. It starts very good and interesting with the front end. But after that, the structure feels very wobbly until the last few steps, where the outer shell plays an important role for stability. A more rigid chassis would be cooler imho (pic below). As mentioned before, the springs are a bit too hard, did somebody already swap em with the soft shocks? Still, for the price per piece, looks and new parts, this is the best model of 2H25. Quote
gyenesvi Posted August 4, 2025 Posted August 4, 2025 @Jundis I agree with you on the above. I also built mine over the weekend (I think this was my first ever day 1 purchase and build). Overall a really nice set, and great parts pack, I even thought about getting another one.. However, I also want to talk about some shortcomings. The front end of the chassis is really interesting, with a tight build for the front axle. The middle is pretty empty, just a frame and two beams basically, and the rear end is kind of messy, and I also wondered if it would be better with soft springs. There's a lot of space in the back, and I think a ball-joint based rear suspension could have been made, even leaving the rear seat area clean; but the problem is the steering shaft. Not only that it would have to be routed to the spare wheel (though I guess a HoG would also be okay), but rather that the front axle is so tight with the engine sitting on top, that the steering must really be done from the bottom. This makes the routing/crossing of steering/drivetrain difficult.. Another area where I was somewhat dissatisfied is the paneling. Not because it looks bad, it's quite okay, just because I'm a maximalist :) Let me explain. My biggest pain point is the design of the new flat fender panel; they chipped off the top corner of it, just like all other fenders, and I'm inclined to think that in this case (flat part), this might hurt more than it helps. I understand that the goal is to allow some other part to protrude in there when really needed, but as a disadvantage, that space needs to be filled in all other cases, which for example means all cases on this model, and that makes it unnecessarily cluttered. Just imagine how nice it would be if those corners just continued straight to meet the adjacent part. Even structurally it would make it more useful. I check the new small Ferrari as well, that model uses one of those corners for a panel, but it could be built differently as well without using the corner. So my opinion is that that might have been a bad compromise, I wonder how many future models will use that corner for good. The only good use I can imagine is to put lights in there, but that's something done with stickers nowadays anyway.. The other area of improvement is the door. It's a bit more cluttered than necessary, simply putting a 5L red beam vertically next to the hinge could have smoothed it out. Not to mention that yet another example where a 5x7 flat panel could have been perfect if existed! Last area is the roof paneling. I know it's mostly invisible due to the roof rack, but not sure whey they could not make it just more uniform looking, it's pretty cluttered and could have been made smoother easily just by rearranging some parts. And one more thing. The seats are shifted half stud to the center and don't line up with the steering wheel. This is done so that the door handle can be attached to the door; it needs some extra structure from the inside of the door. I hate when one detail has such a long reaching effect, and when fixing one screws another one. I also agree with others that the one stud wide shoulder line might be too much and it could have just been better without one. The width is especially missing for me from the hood; this way it does not have that iconic bronco ridge along the two side edges of the hood, rather it has the inverse. That black claw-like part, which is a really neat solution in itself, feels like hanging in the air with no surroundings. But still, one of the best sets of the year, and I'm really happy that Technic is moving more towards smaller scale off-roaders. Maybe I'll try to pimp this one up if I have time.. Quote
Auroralampinen Posted August 4, 2025 Posted August 4, 2025 Here is sariel's review of this set:). Quote
NV Lego technic Posted August 4, 2025 Posted August 4, 2025 It didn't even take a week to have an absolutely gorgeous alternate build, will there be instructions? Quote
Auroralampinen Posted August 7, 2025 Posted August 7, 2025 Here is 42213 in car transporter set:). Quote
1gor Posted August 7, 2025 Posted August 7, 2025 On 8/5/2025 at 12:13 AM, damjan97PL said: Ideal set to build some truck from it Yes, perhaps 75mm tire with similar to this tread would round up everything that we need (89mm in G-Wagen and 81mm in Audi IMHO belong to this "family"). Unimog looks very nice (despite not having portal axles) Quote
NV Lego technic Posted August 7, 2025 Posted August 7, 2025 2 hours ago, 1gor said: Yes, perhaps 75mm tire with similar to this tread would round up everything that we need (89mm in G-Wagen and 81mm in Audi IMHO belong to this "family"). Unimog looks very nice (despite not having portal axles) What about 90something or 100something milimiter tires? Quote
1gor Posted August 7, 2025 Posted August 7, 2025 4 hours ago, NV Lego technic said: What about 90something or 100something milimiter tires? I can not agree more...I miss also 125mm tractor tire...but lets enjoy Bronco Quote
Auroralampinen Posted August 12, 2025 Posted August 12, 2025 I have now created mods and improvements topic for the 42213:). Quote
Ngoc Nguyen Posted August 23, 2025 Author Posted August 23, 2025 HI everyone, this is a shock-ing change from RacingBrick Quote
SNIPE Posted August 23, 2025 Posted August 23, 2025 Tried making both axles so they had 4L CV joints with a female CV joint on both ends of each axle, but the female CV joint was preventing the wishbones from pivoting, and even though I used some recessed wheels, it was still 1L too wide on either side, for the bodywork. I was hoping to keep the engine, but have steering, diff, and independent suspension on both axles.. Quote
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