BrickBob Studpants Posted February 15 Posted February 15 3 hours ago, Agent Kallus said: Well I've seen the new movie and to no great surprise [spoiler] Yeah, makes sense to me. After all, they couldn‘t release what the scene actually featured, so made something up, and it‘s a pretty decent solution. Definitely better than the golfkart flamethrower of doooooooom or that giant black and gold spider drone Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted February 15 Posted February 15 10 hours ago, Rwbricks said: Totally agree about the Thunderbolts. Not being able to make the team, especially not if you’re a newer fan who missed the Black Widow and earlier sets, is a shame. Hopefully we’ll get the missing characters in the Avengers sets. I especially agree about missing John, as he is the trickiest figure to make. This is the closest I’ve come up with this Hank Pym’s torso from the 2015 Ant-Man set: I’m not a huge fan of the lip on the helmet, but it’s the best piece available. Also, I think the boots may be darker in the film, but I liked how these looked. For Red Guardian, I think the torso from Falcon from the blister pack works the best. I'm somewhat skeptical they'll be in doomsday. I have high hopes that they end up being a team the audience likes, but it's not like the 4 years between guardians and infinity war- they'd have to make that decision before Thunderbolts releases, and I'm not sure Marvel's that confident. That said I have no idea who Doomsday can realistically star where people won't end up rooting for Doom. Spider-man? The F4 if they end up breaking the adaption curse? I think we've seen conclusive proof that people aren't going to be all that hyped for Captain Falcon leading various replacements and peripheral characters into battle. I think that's pretty solid and about as close as we can realistically get- I've been considering the sith officer from the sith trooper battle pack's torso, because it's got a red stripe, but it's also just one stripe so it's a trade-off.] Definitely using that for RG, thanks for the idea. 9 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Ya’ll are mad that Lego’s not making tie-in sets for Thunderbolts. I’m mad that Lego’s completely doing the wrong wacky things to tie in with current comics. We are not the same. Why does Lego drop the ball and make 50,000 spider cars when they could be adapting peak? We get a mix of MCU and comic sets, no reason a single year couldn't include both the Doom Rex, Thanos Copter, and some Thunderbolts sets. 8 hours ago, JeanGreyForever said: I can definitely see the interest in Deadpool and Daredevil, if it wasn't for their ratings, but I'm pretty sure Lego skipped Thunderbolts knowing that it'll be DOA. For general audiences, the only character they recognize and care about is Bucky. There's maybe slight audience recognition for Yelena and that's it. And once you start filling a team up with Disney+ characters, we have another Marvels situation. Lego skipping out on Thunderbolts was a very safe choice for them because it's an untested property and one that's likely to go the way of the Eternals. That being said, I did like John Walker and he was one of the only good things about the Falcon and Winter Soldier TV show. So it is a shame there's no incoming minifig for him. I honestly don't think it's gonna go the way of the eternals. I think it'll be a reverse to the current box office estimates for BNW. It might have a lower opening weekend, but if it's as good as the trailers are making it look, it'll have good word of mouth and staying power. I still can't get over the fact that John was the best thing to come out of the show. It's so hilarious and at the same time unfortunate for Sam, the writers really haven't been doing him any favors since he got the shield. 2 hours ago, psqidexslizer said: Now I know how people in Antarctica feel trying to read. 😝 Or Australians. Quote
brickbride Posted February 15 Posted February 15 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said: I have high hopes that they end up being a team the audience likes (...) That said I have no idea who Doomsday can realistically star where people won't end up rooting for Doom. You mean people won't be rooting for RDJ if the only alternative are characters like Yelena? Not likely IMO. 16 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said: It's so hilarious and at the same time unfortunate for Sam, the writers really haven't been doing him any favors since he got the shield. Well, I mean his most memorable moments before were getting beaten up by Ant-Man and contributing to War Machine's crippling injury, so it's not like he was doing great then either. But I agree - the extended Disney+ Trailer for BNW makes it look like Harrison Ford is the main character, and to add insult to injury the CGI wings on both Falconcap and Falcon look hilariously fake. Edited February 15 by brickbride Quote
Scarilian Posted February 15 Posted February 15 (edited) Cap 4 is getting a mixed/negative reception, if Thunderbolts & Fantastic Four get a similar reacting and poor box office we may see delays to the Avengers movies to give them time to rework things. 10 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Why does Lego drop the ball and make 50,000 spider cars when they could be adapting peak? Spider-man sells, though I would appreciate more wacky sets with unique/interesting figures.Take the Venom T-Rex set and re-do that, but ditch the vehicle and I think a recolour would work for a Doom T-Rex. Edited February 15 by Scarilian Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted February 16 Posted February 16 5 hours ago, brickbride said: You mean people won't be rooting for RDJ if the only alternative are characters like Yelena? Not likely IMO. I mean I did actively say that I don't know who it could star where people won't root for doom... 5 hours ago, brickbride said: Well, I mean his most memorable moments before were getting beaten up by Ant-Man and contributing to War Machine's crippling injury, so it's not like he was doing great then either. But I agree - the extended Disney+ Trailer for BNW makes it look like Harrison Ford is the main character, and to add insult to injury the CGI wings on both Falconcap and Falcon look hilariously fake. Not so much his most memorable as "the two worst moments he had"... I doubt more people remember falcon from ant-man than TWS. And I thought he was a solid character beforehand he just doesn't work as a Captain America. From what I've heard unlike some other recent movies Harrison Ford actually tries in this one so I get why they wanted to market him, especially with the mixed reception of TFATWS, but yeah, marketing your "villain" more than the hero isn't a great move 99% of the time, and this is definitely one. 4 hours ago, Scarilian said: Cap 4 is getting a mixed/negative reception, if Thunderbolts & Fantastic Four get a similar reacting and poor box office we may see delays to the Avengers movies to give them time to rework things. Spider-man sells, though I would appreciate more wacky sets with unique/interesting figures.Take the Venom T-Rex set and re-do that, but ditch the vehicle and I think a recolour would work for a Doom T-Rex. Honestly I think it's the other way around, I think if those fail they're gonna want Secret Wars out as fast as possible both to get some guaranteed cash out of the cameofest, and to reboot everything and start again. Quote
brickbride Posted February 16 Posted February 16 (edited) 8 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: Not so much his most memorable as "the two worst moments he had"... I doubt more people remember falcon from ant-man than TWS. And I thought he was a solid character beforehand he just doesn't work as a Captain America. Honestly I wasn't even kidding. To me those were indeed his most memorable moments. Falcon as an Avenger was always pretty inoffensive, Cap's good friend, but in a team setting he just blended into the background up to and including Endgame. We didn't know anything much about his life story and he didn't have anything much in the way of a personality. I've seen both TWS and Ant-Man 1 and he only stood out to me in that one scene in Ant-Man 1 (and not in a good way). When Cap handed him the shield at the end of Endgame I was like "Huh. Well, I guess he is the most decent person Steve knows that's still alive, so sure, why not." The gesture didn't pack a punch or anything. I didn't even like Steve Rogers much but you can't deny he was a strong personality, someone who'd fought very hard to get where he was and who'd made the identity of Captain America (originally just a marketing gag) all his own - a fitting counterpart to Tony Stark's Iron Man. Falcon was never like that. And neither was War Machine, hence my comment about Armor Wars being cancelled. I'd be like making Happy Hogan the new Captain America or Iron Man - he's a perfectly fine supporting character but not someone with a personality you can really root for. And that's the problem right now - with most of the old Avengers dead or retired, we have a roster comprised almost exclusively of perfectly fine supporting characters but nothing more. Tony Stark dying got people up in arms because it was a monumental injustice after seeing him struggle for so hard and so long, and that's exactly why it worked. We need characters like this again. Honestly I don't think team movies like Thunderbolts or FF will be the solution either, even though apparently that's the best Marvel can do right now. Those, too, would need at least one breakout character - like the Guardians would never have worked without Star-Lord. Otherwise you just end up with something like Eternals, a bunch of mostly inoffensive characters but not someone whose fate you'd lose sleep over. The only truly interesting and conflicted ones were Druig and Ikaris, and what did Marvel do - relegate Druig into the background and kill Ikaris off! The current concept of dragging B- and C-listers into the spotlight doesn't work because just because we've seen these people before doesn't mean we will get invested (like Falcon has proven). Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings was a much better effort than most in that regard, in that it introduced a whole new character with his own backstory and conflicts and made us root for him, but then he was barely in the same continuity as the rest of the MCU and they haven't done anything with him since 2021. Right now the only characters left who I think could carry a movie on their own are Captain Marvel (and it seems like I'm in the minority here, plus as of The Marvels she's semi-retired anyway) and Dr Strange. (Also Loki and Agatha Harkness but there's no chance of that.) If they go through with replacing them with Kamala and America there'll be no-one left at all. I don't even dislike Kamala but I'm not invested in her, either, and it's high time we got some leads we could get invested in again. Edited February 16 by brickbride Quote
Scarilian Posted February 16 Posted February 16 10 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: Honestly I think it's the other way around, I think if those fail they're gonna want Secret Wars out as fast as possible both to get some guaranteed cash out of the cameofest, and to reboot everything and start again. I think a reboot is coming regardless, it's just a question of whether they use an in-universe aspect such as Secret Wars to try and bridge the gap. It's been stated that Anthony Mackie was going to be the leader of the Avengers for Avengers: Doomsday, if that was the case then I could see some rewrites happening which would be awkward as its meant to start filming in March and some of the cast are already arriving in the UK for filming. Let alone Lego sets are likely already in varying stages of development working off costume tests and concept art. We could have another Endgame scenario on our hands where the sets are based on material that is not reflective of the final product resulting in a later legacy wave. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted February 16 Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Scarilian said: We could have another Endgame scenario on our hands where the sets are based on material that is not reflective of the final product resulting in a later legacy wave. I‘m foreseeing a Quinjet, a Hulkbuster, a Cap bike, an HQ, plus a Doom vehicle Jokes aside, I hope they at least get some hints about what happens in the movie in terms of action setpieces. The AoU and IW waves were pretty accurate overall! Endgame had a good reason for the secrecy because they couldn‘t reveal anything about the time travel plot, which takes up a vast chunk of the screentime. I highly doubt Doomsday will be equally secretive. Quote
psqidexslizer Posted February 16 Posted February 16 We will be getting 1 set for Doomsday. It’ll include Mr Fantastic and Dr Doom riding his Doom Buggy with a giant flamethrower mounted on top. Retail price will be anywhere from $60 - $100. Quote
kevkipo Posted February 16 Posted February 16 Sorry to budge in but I was wondering about the status of the supposed Spiderverse minifigure series releasing this year, have we already heard a list or any part leaks? Thanks! Quote
icm Posted February 16 Posted February 16 29 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said: We will be getting 1 set for Doomsday. It’ll include Mr Fantastic and Dr Doom riding his Doom Buggy with a giant flamethrower mounted on top. Retail price will be anywhere from $60 - $100. Don't forget the black diorama base with a forgettable non-spoiler quote from another movie and the pile of rubble on a patch of dirt. Quote
thebricksbear Posted February 16 Posted February 16 NGL I check on this thread to see what leaks people are discussing or what ideas people have for sets and most of the time it's you guys talking about how bad everything is, it's a real drag. The hate for the new movie is massively exaggerated and it probably has some of the best Sam moments. Sam vs Sidewinder was awesome, I really hope Serpent Society sticks around and we get some proper suits, and Diamondback comes back. I got a Diamondback McDonalds toy months ago (lol) and she would've made a cool minifig. I'd also love a Leader minifig. Quote
Rwbricks Posted February 16 Posted February 16 3 hours ago, kevkipo said: Sorry to budge in but I was wondering about the status of the supposed Spiderverse minifigure series releasing this year, have we already heard a list or any part leaks? Thanks! As far as I know, we haven’t heard anything new yet. I don’t think we typically get much information about the September CMF until later, though. Still, I am very eager to see who’s included. Quote
squiz18 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 4 hours ago, thebricksbear said: NGL I check on this thread to see what leaks people are discussing or what ideas people have for sets and most of the time it's you guys talking about how bad everything is, it's a real drag. The hate for the new movie is massively exaggerated and it probably has some of the best Sam moments. Sam vs Sidewinder was awesome, I really hope Serpent Society sticks around and we get some proper suits, and Diamondback comes back. I got a Diamondback McDonalds toy months ago (lol) and she would've made a cool minifig. I'd also love a Leader minifig. Agreed Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted February 16 Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Rwbricks said: As far as I know, we haven’t heard anything new yet. I don’t think we typically get much information about the September CMF until later, though. Still, I am very eager to see who’s included. As am I. I am hoping it's general spider-verse and not specifically the movies. I love the movies and a CMF just of their variants certainly wouldn't be bad, but there are a lot of great spiders not in the movies I'd like figures of. 8 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: I‘m foreseeing a Quinjet, a Hulkbuster, a Cap bike, an HQ, plus a Doom vehicle Jokes aside, I hope they at least get some hints about what happens in the movie in terms of action setpieces. The AoU and IW waves were pretty accurate overall! Endgame had a good reason for the secrecy because they couldn‘t reveal anything about the time travel plot, which takes up a vast chunk of the screentime. I highly doubt Doomsday will be equally secretive. What's funny is even the joke list won't work as well as it did for endgame. -Hulkbuster's not a guarantee- I guess they did the WMB last time, so they could remake it, but it leads to the larger issue of without iron man, they can't do a hall of armor, hulkbusters are tougher, etc. -Obviously lego's no stranger to unnecessary vehicles but a Cap bike would be kind of laughable with his wings sticking out. Even with the figures, it's rough. No Steve, no Tony, no Nat, no T'Challa. Hulk and Thor are shells of their former selves. Hawkeye returning is no guarantee. From what I've been reading the Thunderbolts and F4 are actually confirmed to be in Doomsday, so a LOT is riding on them both. 15 hours ago, brickbride said: Honestly I wasn't even kidding. To me those were indeed his most memorable moments. Falcon as an Avenger was always pretty inoffensive, Cap's good friend, but in a team setting he just blended into the background up to and including Endgame. We didn't know anything much about his life story and he didn't have anything much in the way of a personality. I've seen both TWS and Ant-Man 1 and he only stood out to me in that one scene in Ant-Man 1 (and not in a good way). I still disagree on this- Winter Soldier makes him fairly likeable and does give us a fair bit of his life story- he was part of the military, he lost his wingman, he has trouble living out of the fight and works as a sort of PTSD councilor to help other people find peace. It's not Steve or Tony level backstory but for a supporting character it's done well. But as to your wider point, yes, I think we have now seen that Sam cannot carry a film, and neither can many of the remaining characters. It's like I said- the F4 and Thunderbolts NEED to be good, and be big, for the MCU to regain it's footing. Quote
Buckethead Posted February 16 Posted February 16 Does anyone in this chat know how Lego goes about green lighting set adaptations of movies? Lego and Disney have a partnership to produce sets based off their Marvel movies, and I refuse to believe that Lego went, "I think this Thunderbolts movie looks bad, so we're not making sets." There has to be some other reason for Lego not to produce sets for the film, right? Also, I'm optimistic we'll get some neat Avengers sets next year, but I'm worried it won't be as impressive as the Infinity War wave. And with 2-3x more characters in the MCU, I'm wondering which characters will get included/excluded. Obviously Doom, and I imagine the Fantastic Four and Spider-Man; I'm just waiting to learn who else is in the film, and therefore the sets. Quote
psqidexslizer Posted February 16 Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said: -Hulkbuster's not a guarantee- I guess they did the WMB last time, so they could remake it, but it leads to the larger issue of without iron man, they can't do a hall of armor, hulkbusters are tougher, etc. What about a Doombuster (HulkBuster, but green and silver for Dr Doom). Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted February 16 Posted February 16 18 minutes ago, Buckethead said: Does anyone in this chat know how Lego goes about green lighting set adaptations of movies? Lego and Disney have a partnership to produce sets based off their Marvel movies, and I refuse to believe that Lego went, "I think this Thunderbolts movie looks bad, so we're not making sets." There has to be some other reason for Lego not to produce sets for the film, right? I assume it was moreso "we don't think this project will appeal to kids as much, and our sales data for many of our MCU tie-ins has been low as of late". Doesn't seem like Disney's pushing this one particularly hard given other merch companies haven't put much out, and it's not like Disney would want lego putting out tie-ins that don't sell. I think they made the wrong choice about which movie to avoid but I get why they did it. Just now, psqidexslizer said: What about a Doombuster (HulkBuster, but green and silver for Dr Doom). Going off the War Machine Buster's name, it'd imply this was a Dr. Doom hulkbuster suit, which would in turn imply Dr. Doom in Doomsday would just be an eeevil iron man with a green cloak, which is too scarily realistic to what marvel might try for me to think about. 11 hours ago, Scarilian said: I think a reboot is coming regardless, it's just a question of whether they use an in-universe aspect such as Secret Wars to try and bridge the gap. It's been stated that Anthony Mackie was going to be the leader of the Avengers for Avengers: Doomsday, if that was the case then I could see some rewrites happening which would be awkward as its meant to start filming in March and some of the cast are already arriving in the UK for filming. Let alone Lego sets are likely already in varying stages of development working off costume tests and concept art. We could have another Endgame scenario on our hands where the sets are based on material that is not reflective of the final product resulting in a later legacy wave. I agree- and yeah, I think they're struggling right now. Even if the Thunderbolts and F4 DO end up being good, which I have some hope for, the avengers themselves are... doomed. (Sorry, I couldn't resist). They just don't have characters people care about anymore. A bunch of replacements without the spark the originals had, alongside Thor and Hulk, who are shells of their former selves as characters, reduced to comedy sidekicks. Infinity War had what I consider the best onscreen Thor. Maybe they'll save him and hulk again. But I doubt it. And even if they do, it won't be enough to carry the film. Like I've been saying, the future of the MCU is all up to the Thunderbolts and the Fantastic Four. Quote
Rwbricks Posted February 19 Posted February 19 If Ultron is indeed coming in the quinjet, how do we think he’ll be made? In the early Avengers’ Tower leaks, when he was said to be coming in it, he was said to have a new mold. The comics Ultron from this year uses the same bottom piece as the 2015 one, but the top piece hasn’t been seen in a while. Also, (maybe this is just me), but it seems like the combo of the top and bottom head pieces of the 2015 molds shows less detail than just the bottom. It still works, though. Quote
psqidexslizer Posted February 19 Posted February 19 6 hours ago, Rwbricks said: If Ultron is indeed coming in the quinjet, how do we think he’ll be made? In the early Avengers’ Tower leaks, when he was said to be coming in it, he was said to have a new mold. The comics Ultron from this year uses the same bottom piece as the 2015 one, but the top piece hasn’t been seen in a while. Also, (maybe this is just me), but it seems like the combo of the top and bottom head pieces of the 2015 molds shows less detail than just the bottom. It still works, though. The Magento helmet had been out of circulation since 2017, but they resurrected it last year. I don’t think resurrecting the top helmet piece for Ultron is out of the question. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted February 19 Posted February 19 7 hours ago, Rwbricks said: If Ultron is indeed coming in the quinjet, how do we think he’ll be made? Of course the leaks can be wrong, but he’s specifically rumoured not to be included in the set, so I’m not getting my hopes up If he was included after all, I guess they’d only use the lower part. Worked well enough for the recent comic-inspired version! Quote
thebricksbear Posted February 19 Posted February 19 Ultron's top and bottom helmet pieces are like my favorite pieces ever. Absolutely insane that they designed not one but two pieces and built the wave for that movie around them, rather than the opposite. They brought the bottom piece back so I don't think it'd be crazy to see that again, but to put two custom pieces into production for a single set, I wouldn't bet on. Generally Marvel hasn't been getting a lot of new pieces. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted February 19 Posted February 19 2 minutes ago, thebricksbear said: They brought the bottom piece back so I don't think it'd be crazy to see that again, but to put two custom pieces into production for a single set, I wouldn't bet on. Generally Marvel hasn't been getting a lot of new pieces. The difference is that the top part hasn’t been seen since 2015 while the bottom part was last used in the first Mandalorian set in 2019 before returning this year. We still don’t know how mould retirements work (e.g., if they keep them around longer based on the likelihood they’ll ever be reused or if they all have a similar life expectancy), but a 4-year difference might be significant Quote
Legocentrico Posted February 20 Posted February 20 Just now a code for the next harry potter d2c leaked. so there is still hope for marvel Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted February 20 Posted February 20 33 minutes ago, Legocentrico said: Just now a code for the next harry potter d2c leaked. so there is still hope for marvel Oh? Can you tell us where you found it? I checked Reddit and Discord and couldn’t find anything Quote
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