Wizarding World 2025 - Rumors & Discussion

[brickbride]

It's almost as if LEGO were trying to appeal to children who want fun magical shenanigans instead of murder and outright war ...

I do feel your pain, though - I've pretty much come to terms with the fact that we will never get Spinner's End as a location set.

Edited January 28 by brickbride

[BrickMatit]

I've never put so much attention on movies, so maybe this is just an easily deniable statement, but in term of where main actions take place I would say that the more we go from 1st to 8th movies the less actions take place in Hogwarts. So, when recreating a castle, having to put actions inside, is unavoidable that first movies play a larger role than last ones.

Than we have that probably for a lot of people, kids included, first movies - I will say surely from 1st to 3rd and in part the 4th - better capture the whimsical, playful, cozy essence of Hogwarts and magic than the last ones.

So said, @BrickBob Studpants I think that the tower could also be based on GoF: with Dumbledore Office, Moody's Classroom and one random Common Room - Gryffindor or Slytherin, I would say - with at least Dumbledore, Moody, Fudge and Harry.

Edited January 28 by BrickMatit

[BrickBob Studpants]

1 hour ago, brickbride said:

It's almost as if LEGO were trying to appeal to children who want fun magical shenanigans instead of murder and outright war ...

Sure, but PoA, GoF, and OotP still have plenty of that, despite the darker tone And it’s not like PS/CoS are all whimsical and innocent  Harry outright murders Quirrell with his bare hands, and it looks agonising! In CoS, we have magical blood writings on the walls, and the poor basilisk gets absolutely butchered!

I‘m not advocating for all 8 movies to be represented equally in number of sets, that would make little sense. I‘m merely suggesting to have at least one large castle section being based on anything other than the first two instalments.

19 minutes ago, BrickMatit said:

So said, @BrickBob Studpants I think that the tower could also be based on GoF: with Dumbledore Office, Moody's Classroom and one random Common Room - Gryffindor or Slytherin, I would say - with at least Dumbledore, Moody, Fudge and Harry.

I‘d like something like that!  We need more Gambledore minifigs asap.

[brickbride]

16 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

And it’s not like PS/CoS are all whimsical and innocent 

Honestly it's more a question of tone than actual plot. Harry's abuse at the hands of the Dursleys is played for laughs, Harry's abuse at the hands of Umbridge is not. The basilisk being butchered is presented as no big deal ('cause Slytherin = evil), but other creature deaths like Hedwig's are played for drama. Harry as our viewpoint character doesn't seem to care about the traumatizing ordeal of murdering Quirrel, in fact he can't even see Thestrals until after Cedric's death. So yeah, in terms of tone the first, second, and even third movie are considerably lighter and more child-friendly, and the books only reach doorstopper-lenght with GoF, too.

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[BrickMatit]

4 minutes ago, brickbride said:

Honestly it's more a question of tone than actual plot. Harry's abuse at the hands of the Dursleys is played for laughs, Harry's abuse at the hands of Umbridge is not. The basilisk being butchered is presented as no big deal ('cause Slytherin = evil), but other creature deaths like Hedwig's are played for drama. Harry as our viewpoint character doesn't seem to care about the traumatizing ordeal of murdering Quirrel, in fact he can't even see Thestrals until after Cedric's death. So yeah, in terms of tone the first, second, and even third movie are considerably lighter and more child-friendly, and the books only reach doorstopper-lenght with GoF, too.

Totally agree and I've read - I'm not an expert, but it's something you notice when you find out - that movies palette becomes colder and darker (blu, grey, brown, green) while the story becomes darker - from PoA.

[Gorilla94]

13 minutes ago, BrickMatit said:

Totally agree and I've read - I'm not an expert, but it's something you notice when you find out - that movies palette becomes colder and darker (blu, grey, brown, green) while the story becomes darker - from PoA.

That´s the reason as a kid I loved the first 2 and lost interest with the 3rd. ... It became literally too dark. On our old TV, especially, when the sun was still shining, the movies were not watchable... xD

[Virginia_Bricks]

I asked ChatGPT (so don't trust this fully) about screen time for each movie in the castle and here were the results:

1. PS: 90%
2. COS: 85%
3. POA: 80% 
4. GOF: 75%
5. HBP: 70%
6. OOTP: 60%
7. DH2: 50%

Honestly we were pretty lucky to get 2 Deathly Hallows castle sets in the last modular wave.

[BrickBob Studpants]

3 hours ago, Virginia_Bricks said:

Honestly we were pretty lucky to get 2 Deathly Hallows castle sets in the last modular wave.

Screentime isn‘t everything though. DH2 may have the shortest time spent at Hogwarts (besides DH1 of course), but the events that unfold are much more significant (and set-worthy) than a lot of Hogwarts scenes in the other movies

[Black Falcon]

14 hours ago, BrickMatit said:

I think ghosts could appear with the related common rooms. In this case, if Bloody Baron (and Slytherin common room) will be in the tower I would see it more likely paired with CoS, more than PS. Or just as a filler in a not-PS not-CoS tower.

For me, I'm more inclined to imagine the tower to have Nearly-Headless-Nick and the Gryffindor common room.

I would also think the Gryffindor Common room is more likely since you can basically just put the Slytherin one in any underground section, while everyone knows that they reach the Gryffindor one through the tower. Unless they decide that the Gryffindor Room should be an own module ofc, which would also make kinda sense, since a lot important scenes play there.

14 hours ago, BrickMatit said:

Xenophilius Lovegood could appear in a Lovegood House future set, continuing locations out of Hogwarts like Malfoy Manor (but I'll prefer to see a Tent Scene with patronus and lake and, in any case, DH Ron). Mundungus and Rufus are those unlikely to be seen in the future, I think. Even less Firenze and Arabella Figg, any 19 Years Later characters and Gellert Grindelwald. And Ariana would appear if LEGO decide for a Hog's Head set.

I know, a lot people here want to see a Lovegood House, but how likely is it really that they will make it? I think it is just to unimportant to make it into a set, and it honestly doesn´t look good either, at least from the outside.

13 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

I hope not, as I‘m just sick of PS/CoS-based castle expansions  They can still include a house ghost and a common room and what not, but would it kill them to give the other 75% of the movies some love too? I‘m grateful for the GoF, OotP, HBP, and DH sets we got so far, but they‘re still vastly overshadowed by the other three movies.

10 hours ago, BrickMatit said:

I've never put so much attention on movies, so maybe this is just an easily deniable statement, but in term of where main actions take place I would say that the more we go from 1st to 8th movies the less actions take place in Hogwarts. So, when recreating a castle, having to put actions inside, is unavoidable that first movies play a larger role than last ones.

Than we have that probably for a lot of people, kids included, first movies - I will say surely from 1st to 3rd and in part the 4th - better capture the whimsical, playful, cozy essence of Hogwarts and magic than the last ones.

So said, @BrickBob Studpants I think that the tower could also be based on GoF: with Dumbledore Office, Moody's Classroom and one random Common Room - Gryffindor or Slytherin, I would say - with at least Dumbledore, Moody, Fudge and Harry.

The main reason is probably just as easy as, that more kids saw the first movies, while they were not allowed to see the later movies yet, because of their higher rating. 

[Goldbrick89]

Is there a rumored D2C set for this year or what do you think we could get if anything?

[brickbride]

Consensus seems to be there won't be any because a) there's a lot of D2Cs on the shelves already (though the Hogwarts Express has retired, that still leaves the 2018 microscale castle, 2020 Diagon Alley, Gringotts, Hogwarts Icons, and the Burrow) and also because by now we're getting regular sets (like the microscale Diagon Alley) and even regular playsets (like the Great Hall and the rumoured Main Tower) at a price point previously reserved for D2Cs. But you never know.

Edited January 29 by brickbride

[BrickBob Studpants]

7 hours ago, Goldbrick89 said:

Is there a rumored D2C set for this year or what do you think we could get if anything?

We could still get one, but considering we already know about the ones scheduled for autumn (like the Death Star, Black Pearl, and Enterprise) and haven‘t heard a single thing about a new HP one, I‘d say it‘s fairly unlikely

1 hour ago, brickbride said:

[…] even regular playsets (like the Great Hall and the rumoured Main Tower) at a price point previously reserved for D2Cs.

Indeed. The Main Tower basically fills the role of a D2C set, minus the exclusivity and 18+ label

[BrickMatit]

8 hours ago, Black Falcon said:

I know, a lot people here want to see a Lovegood House, but how likely is it really that they will make it? I think it is just to unimportant to make it into a set

Oh, well, I've a bunch of set before Lovegood House  like a Tent and Patronus set from DH. As on how likely is it... who knows? But, I don't think it's impossible.

It's not a minor scene in the movie (and book too) because info given by Xenophilius explain and drive the Deathly Hallows quest. It's Luna's house and she is a characters appreciated by a lot of fan even if she can't be in the set. There's also a bit of action, so LEGO could put two masked generic deatheaters and entices other buyers.

8 hours ago, Black Falcon said:

honestly doesn´t look good either, at least from the outside

But yes, it's not so appealing from outside.

8 hours ago, Black Falcon said:

The main reason is probably just as easy as, that more kids saw the first movies, while they were not allowed to see the later movies yet, because of their higher rating. 

That's a thing I've never thought about. I was 11 when PS came out and literally grow with Harry  I don't even remember the movies' rating... here in Italy, on DVD boxes they're simply rates as "For All", without restriction or advice.

[BrickBob Studpants]

8 minutes ago, BrickMatit said:

It's not a minor scene in the movie (and book too) because info given by Xenophilius explain and drive the Deathly Hallows quest. It's Luna's house and she is a characters appreciated by a lot of fan even if she can't be in the set. There's also a bit of action, so LEGO could put two masked generic deatheaters and entices other buyers.

Indeed! The Lovegood‘s house would make for a cool set I think. Xenophilius is one of the more prominent characters still missing, more Death Eater minifigs are always welcome, and if they could somehow incorporate the Tale of the Three Brothers into the set, it could be a pretty popular one!  Not gonna happen anytime soon, but one can hope

[Clone OPatra]

Got the Duelling Club set today (thanks Insiders Points that I was given for my PaB delay) - and now that I have it in hand, I'm not a big fan of the rubber cape for Lockhart. I thought I'd like it from the pictures, and it's a cool part in general, but it just doesn't feel quite right for this purpose.

Good thing he throws it off, I guess!

[MaxHeadroom]

When I was a kid growing up I remember always finding the first two movies the friendliest but still loving 3-5 and watching them religiously. 6 was too visually dark and I wasn’t allowed to watch 7-8 as they released. OOTP was still bright and colorful  with the fireworks sequence, Umbridge’s office, and all the ROR stuff. I’d be tempted to say it’s not even as dark of a movie as GOF which Lego has made plenty of sets for. As we enter year 8 of LEGO HP I find it bizarre that we’ve only gotten 3 OOTP sets, two of which were quite small and released half a decade ago too. It’s overdue for some attention. 

What is LEGO HP’s target demographic now anyway? Age ranges aren’t always a perfect indicator because 2018-2023 castles were always 8+ for most sets then 9+ for the largest sets (including for the DH2 sets) despite the 2021 reboot of the line being noticeably more kiddie and focusing on the younger audience at least with stuff like the Moments books and the… more play focused new castle system.  Last year’s Great Hall is 10+ and because of the price I can’t imagine that many younger children are buying it. Can 10 year olds in 2025 really not handle OOTP? (even ignoring that 8 year olds in 2023 can handle DH2). The classroom sets are still play focused but it seems like the HP line in general is a bit more grown up now than it was a few years ago. I understand why Lego focuses on the earliest movies when doing more kid focused product lineups and when restarting the line and trying to attract new kids, but surely OOTP is fine by year two? Especially for a $250 set that will almost certainly be 10+ at least.

I think an OOTP focused tower would be great. There’s a big memorable Dumledore’s office sequence so that’s covered (which could also be an excuse to include a few more interesting figures as bait for figure collectors). The griffindor common room has some notable moments and they could do the Sirius fireplace which we haven’t seen since 2010! The ROR is an obvious inclusion too and works perfectly for the barebones modules they like to include in castle exterior sets. I’d love an Umbridge office too with at least some stickered walls full of plates but I don’t think it would really need a full potions module size room. 

 

[BrickBob Studpants]

10 minutes ago, MaxHeadroom said:

I think an OOTP focused tower would be great.
 

My thoughts exactly! OotP has plenty of memorable scenes and locations to justify a large castle expansion. The fact we‘ve had multiple Umbridge minifigs, but are still missing her office is kinda silly. Even the microscale Hogwarts featured it!

That said, as much as I want it, I don’t see them dedicating the largest Hogwarts playset ever released to OotP  I‘m fully expecting it to be based on CoS again, and maybe be pleasantly surprised if it‘s based on any of the following instalments instead  At least we‘ll know as soon as the minifig list drops!

[BrickMatit]

Talking about sets already on shelves: last Christmas time I built the 76440_Triwizard Tournament: The Arrival set.

I want to spend two words for Durmstrang ship: it's amazing, a really well, well done building. The hull is impressive, the shape is very spot on and with all the tiny details and the fabric sails and flags I find it a perfect model.

[Black Falcon]

10 hours ago, brickbride said:

Consensus seems to be there won't be any because a) there's a lot of D2Cs on the shelves already (though the Hogwarts Express has retired, that still leaves the 2018 microscale castle, 2020 Diagon Alley, Gringotts, Hogwarts Icons, and the Burrow) and also because by now we're getting regular sets (like the microscale Diagon Alley) and even regular playsets (like the Great Hall and the rumoured Main Tower) at a price point previously reserved for D2Cs. But you never know.

All fair points, but since they started making a bigger event out of Return to Hogwarts, I would think they would also want to have a set avaiable for people to buy then, even if they already purchased all Sets released till then. In the end it wouldn´t need to be a big 200€+ one, something in the Price Range of Grimmauld Place or the Triwizard Arrival set would be enough already.

8 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

We could still get one, but considering we already know about the ones scheduled for autumn (like the Death Star, Black Pearl, and Enterprise) and haven‘t heard a single thing about a new HP one, I‘d say it‘s fairly unlikely

Well the year just started, so I wouldn´t say it is that unlikely really. And in the end we have no idea where the leaks are comming from - in the end a leaker might know about one Sets because his source worked on a set and for another theme he doesn´t.

8 hours ago, BrickMatit said:

Oh, well, I've a bunch of set before Lovegood House  like a Tent and Patronus set from DH. As on how likely is it... who knows? But, I don't think it's impossible.

Surely not impossible, and if it would look better on the outside like the Malfoy Mansion or the Burrow I think it would have better chances. In the end that is the first you will see of the Set when you see it. 

8 hours ago, BrickMatit said:

It's not a minor scene in the movie (and book too) because info given by Xenophilius explain and drive the Deathly Hallows quest. It's Luna's house and she is a characters appreciated by a lot of fan even if she can't be in the set. There's also a bit of action, so LEGO could put two masked generic deatheaters and entices other buyers.

If they make the house, I couldn´t see them not including Luna - sure, she isn´t in the scene, but as it is her home I think she would still be included so people can play scenes with her and her father even if they were not included in the films ;).

8 hours ago, BrickMatit said:

That's a thing I've never thought about. I was 11 when PS came out and literally grow with Harry  I don't even remember the movies' rating... here in Italy, on DVD boxes they're simply rates as "For All", without restriction or advice.

The first two movies are rated for 6 years here, while the others 12 years - which is probably the age where kids start growing out of Lego - and sure many parents are watching them with their younger kids anyways, but overall the first two movies have a more kids that watched them - additionally they also have more iconic scenes that happened inside the castle than other films. 

On a side note, I don´t think the tower would necessarily have to have all locations from the same film. So they could include the Gryffindor common room from Prisoner of Azcaban but a later Films Dumbledores Office for instance - and in the end it wouldn´t be the first time if they include stuff in a Set that is (and lets people play scenes) from different films. 

[BrickBob Studpants]

45 minutes ago, Black Falcon said:

Well the year just started, so I wouldn´t say it is that unlikely really. And in the end we have no idea where the leaks are comming from - in the end a leaker might know about one Sets because his source worked on a set and for another theme he doesn´t.

What‘s more likely: that a HP D2C just happens to be the only set (besides a Marvel D2C) to somehow completely fly under the radar, despite all the other D2C sets already being known (including ones scheduled for November), or that it simply doesn‘t exist?

Sure, it‘s still possible there is one, but I wouldn‘t count on it.

[Virginia_Bricks]

13 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

What‘s more likely: that a HP D2C just happens to be the only set (besides a Marvel D2C) to somehow completely fly under the radar, despite all the other D2C sets already being known (including ones scheduled for November), or that it simply doesn‘t exist?

Sure, it‘s still possible there is one, but I wouldn‘t count on it.

So I went to Brickset and they have a set number #76456 at 278 pieces which could be the Advent Calendar and then set number #76455 remains unaccounted for (but not on Brickset).

They did skip 76436 last year though.

[Black Falcon]

1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

What‘s more likely: that a HP D2C just happens to be the only set (besides a Marvel D2C) to somehow completely fly under the radar, despite all the other D2C sets already being known (including ones scheduled for November), or that it simply doesn‘t exist?

Sure, it‘s still possible there is one, but I wouldn‘t count on it.

I would say both are actually likely to happen. In the end if they skip it this year, I wouldn´t mind either, in the end it is just one Set less I would have to choose which I will buy ;).

1 hour ago, Virginia_Bricks said:

So I went to Brickset and they have a set number #76456 at 278 pieces which could be the Advent Calendar and then set number #76455 remains unaccounted for (but not on Brickset).

They did skip 76436 last year though.

Skipped numbers are normal and happen regularly, sadly nothing that hints towards an unknown set.

[BrickBob Studpants]

1 hour ago, Virginia_Bricks said:

So I went to Brickset and they have a set number #76456 at 278 pieces which could be the Advent Calendar […]

It is. It gets released in September and has 3 copies per box, like all the other calendars (see brickmerge)

[Virginia_Bricks]

1 hour ago, Black Falcon said:

Skipped numbers are normal and happen regularly, sadly nothing that hints towards an unknown set.

Sure, but at least a set number exists and the last 4 years the D2C and Advent calendar have been right next to each other for set numbers.

Edited January 29 by Virginia_Bricks

[Black Falcon]

34 minutes ago, Virginia_Bricks said:

Sure, but at least a set number exists and the last 4 years the D2C and Advent calendar have been right next to each other for set numbers.

Good point, honestly, I never paid much attention to the Set numbers. We will see if some rumours about a D2C Sets come up in the near future. If not, then we will probably get none for real.