Accio Lego Posted October 13 Posted October 13 39 minutes ago, Black Falcon said: The Hogwarts Icons Set included golden minifigures though, despite not having normal ones - so the PS Collectors Edition might still include one. The gold figs in the Icons set were fairly unpopular though. More importantly, it makes little sense for a definitive Collectors Edition of the first movie/book to spend budget money on a spell that’s not seen or even mentioned until the third. Quote
Black Falcon Posted October 13 Posted October 13 32 minutes ago, Tariq j said: The Potions Classroom seems like a bit of a gimmick set but looks as though it could also be a good parts pack if you wanted to expand the existing potions classroom. I wonder if they might do more these with other classrooms. Like I could see them doing a Mandrake that reveals a Greenhouse or a Goblet that reveals a Transfiguration classroom or something like that. Yeah, but the usefull parts get quite expensive because usually the build itself needs a lot of the parts, so the cauldron in this case. 2 minutes ago, Accio Lego said: The gold figs in the Icons set were fairly unpopular though. More importantly, it makes little sense for a definitive Collectors Edition of the first movie/book to spend budget money on a spell that’s not seen or even mentioned until the third. Where they that unpopular? And well, if it is included just as a collectors item, it doesn´t really need to make sense within the set, right? In the end, I just wouldn´t rule it out that one is included, but I wouldn´t take it as granted either. Quote
brickbride Posted October 14 Posted October 14 (edited) 7 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: I could see them include her in the set, given it‘s her father’s house, but story-wise that makes little sense I'd say that calling it "Luna Lovegood's House" without including Luna makes even less sense. But then again over at DC we've just had a "Batman vs. Superman Batmobile" without Superman and a "Batman and Robin Batmobile" without Robin revealed, so who knows. 6 hours ago, Black Falcon said: (...) And I am not saying there shouldn´t be more smaller Sets with Hermione or other female charcters, but to imply that girls would only like sets where girls are included is just wrong (and same goes for the other way around) Well, who said that? All I said was that Girls can aswell like sets where just Ron and Harry are included - not that they should all like it. And it is not like they don´t do such sets, like Luna, Harry and the Thestrals (...) (...) Also, no idea how much more boys are in friends sets now compared to before, but it is far from beeing 50-50. Also, wasn´t the argument that there were boys who liked friends too and they wanted to make the theme to look less like it was just made for girls? So basically the same you are complaining about what is missing in HP, just the other way around. 1) I didn't say that girls would only like sets where girls are included. But I know a lot of girls who like HP, and none of them like cars, or motorbikes, or spiders. All of them like unicorns. I'm not saying that no girl ever would buy one of the current sets (in fact many would buy them because, you know, they like HP and there's nothing else), but that's the problem. Girls deserve representation, too, and right now they aren't getting it. The cheapest available HP set with even one female character is EUR 20, and that's Hermione in the Charms Class with two male characters to accompany her. The cheapest available HP set with two female characters is the boathouse at EUR 38 (again, two female and three male characters). (For comparison: One male character is currently EUR 4, two are EUR 15.) I'm not even sure there are ANY current HP sets with an equal number of male and female characters, or with more females than males. Boy-centric really is the norm here. The last gender-balanced HP set I can recall was the Thestral Carriage you mention, and that's from a few years ago. 2) As for Friends, again, the old theme did have boys, so your argument doesn't track. However, the boys weren't the main characters. Girls are pretty much never the main characters in any LEGO theme (the last gender-balanced one was Hidden Side, otherwise it's mostly a token girl or two in a group of boys) but again, that's the norm and we're supposed to accept it without question. Whereas boys not being the main characters is presented as a huge unfairness that needs to be rectified. The new Friends theme has eight main characters, three of which are boys, which is actually fairly close to a 50:50 ratio. (And again that used to be the ONLY girl-centric theme. It's not longer even close to that!) Moreover the nice thing about the old Friends was that, due to having an all-girls main cast, it wasn't given to stereotyping. For example, Stephanie was the group's baker and gymnast but also played soccer. Emma was the artsy girl who did karate and ran a tuning shop. It really did tell girls that they could be and do everything they wanted. Now we have the martial arts and soccer and general daredevilry all assigned to male characters Zac and (in the case of soccer) Leo, reinforcing once again that those are "boy" pursuits. Whereas girls now get to identify with the shy, insecure singer (Paisley) or the good, helpful student (Aaliya), which IMO is a huge step backwards in terms of avoiding stereotypes. Edited October 14 by brickbride Quote
Roebuck Posted October 14 Posted October 14 8 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Interesting that the collectable portraits are mentioned in the description! Glad to see them continue next year Would not surprise me if this collectible patronus animals are a very good idea that will be popular both with kids and older customers, so hopefully it also will continue for some time also. I assume a lot of the characters have known animals even if they where not in the movies or even the books, so the longer this go on the bigger chance of new animals Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 14 Posted October 14 2 hours ago, Roebuck said: […] hopefully it also will continue for some time also. I assume a lot of the characters have known animals even if they where not in the movies or even the books, so the longer this go on the bigger chance of new animals Since they‘re included explicitly to celebrate the anniversary, they won‘t continue into 2027 but with both of next year‘s waves combined, there should be enough sets to accomodate the patroni of most major characters Hopefully more descriptions wil follow soon! I need to know more about the Hagrid‘s motorbike set! Quote
Gorilla94 Posted October 14 Posted October 14 I hope this will not reduce our chances to get a good cruikshanks... Quote
BacktoBricks Posted October 14 Posted October 14 11 minutes ago, Gorilla94 said: I hope this will not reduce our chances to get a good cruikshanks... I'm hoping for a Crookshanks too. The new fluffy CMF cat recoloured would be great in my opinion. Quote
Black Falcon Posted October 14 Posted October 14 16 hours ago, brickbride said: I'd say that calling it "Luna Lovegood's House" without including Luna makes even less sense. But then again over at DC we've just had a "Batman vs. Superman Batmobile" without Superman and a "Batman and Robin Batmobile" without Robin revealed, so who knows. I´d also say, it is unlikely that she is not included. Sure she wasn´t in any scene there, but they would also make people able to play just some normal scenes with Lunas family live there. 16 hours ago, brickbride said: 1) I didn't say that girls would only like sets where girls are included. But I know a lot of girls who like HP, and none of them like cars, or motorbikes, or spiders. All of them like unicorns. I'm not saying that no girl ever would buy one of the current sets (in fact many would buy them because, you know, they like HP and there's nothing else), but that's the problem. Girls deserve representation, too, and right now they aren't getting it. Well, as said I am all for a Unicorn-Set. And I don´t think anything really speaks against it, we got a unicorn onscreen (even if it was dead there), and the wheelchair kid actually proves that WB isn´t as strict as Disney with what they allow IMO. And anyways, I wouldn´t think most people buy the car because they like the car as such - but because it is an iconic part of the franchise. I mean, I am male and don´t care about cars, I don´t own a single speed champion, but I bought the ford anglia, because I like the car in the films (and books). 16 hours ago, brickbride said: The cheapest available HP set with even one female character is EUR 20, and that's Hermione in the Charms Class with two male characters to accompany her. The cheapest available HP set with two female characters is the boathouse at EUR 38 (again, two female and three male characters). (For comparison: One male character is currently EUR 4, two are EUR 15.) I'm not even sure there are ANY current HP sets with an equal number of male and female characters, or with more females than males. Boy-centric really is the norm here. The last gender-balanced HP set I can recall was the Thestral Carriage you mention, and that's from a few years ago. Well, we have been over all this not long ago. If you want to have equal boy girl - ratios you should head over to city. That will never happen in HP, simply because they have given characters - and honestly I prefer them to choose the characters that are fitting for the scene, because it just won´t work. That doens´t mean that I don´t understand your need for more girls, but it just won´t work out with a given ratio. The trio has more male characters than females, the weaslys do, Harrys main antagonists are mainly male and I could continue this list. Aside from that. Herbology class has two females and one male character, Forbidden Forest had Ron and Hermione, Potions class has 2/2. The last three Diagon Alley Sets had either more or equal numbers, with this years set including two male and 4 female characters. Advent calendar and Hogsmeade also have equal numbers. 16 hours ago, brickbride said: 2) As for Friends, again, the old theme did have boys, so your argument doesn't track. It wasn´t an argument, more what they said was one of the goals with the restart. 13 hours ago, Roebuck said: Would not surprise me if this collectible patronus animals are a very good idea that will be popular both with kids and older customers, so hopefully it also will continue for some time also. I assume a lot of the characters have known animals even if they where not in the movies or even the books, so the longer this go on the bigger chance of new animals As @BrickBob Studpants said, I don´t see a chance there, since it will be aniversary figures. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 14 Posted October 14 22 minutes ago, Black Falcon said: Well, as said I am all for a Unicorn-Set. And I don´t think anything really speaks against it, we got a unicorn onscreen (even if it was dead there), That's one of thew PS scenes we haven't had in set form, like ever. That said, it's hardly surprising. You said it yourself, the only time we see one it's been murdered in cold blood. Hardly set material And what would a set with a living specimen be like? Harry & Ron non-canonically frolicking through the Forbidden Forest with their new unicorn friend? ...I kinda want that actually Quote
Black Falcon Posted October 14 Posted October 14 1 minute ago, BrickBob Studpants said: That's one of thew PS scenes we haven't had in set form, like ever. That said, it's hardly surprising. You said it yourself, the only time we see one it's been murdered in cold blood. Hardly set material And what would a set with a living specimen be like? Harry & Ron non-canonically frolicking through the Forbidden Forest with their new unicorn friend? ...I kinda want that actually Grubbly Plank teaching about them actually. Parvati Patil and a second student, a small sidebuild and you would be good. And yeah probably the chance for a mostly unknown teacher to come in its own set instead as art of a big set is not that high. But that would stil make most sense if we want to see a unicorn ;) Quote
Accio Lego Posted October 14 Posted October 14 13 hours ago, Roebuck said: Would not surprise me if this collectible patronus animals are a very good idea that will be popular both with kids and older customers, so hopefully it also will continue for some time also. I assume a lot of the characters have known animals even if they where not in the movies or even the books, so the longer this go on the bigger chance of new animals There are actually very few patronuses known beyond what the books confirmed. But there are a decent handful that have been revealed through Pottermore or interviews. There’s also a decent number of extended universe characters with known forms, but I doubt we’ll see any of those. If you’d like a list: Books: Stag (Harry) Otter (Hermione) Rat Terrier (Ron) Swan (Cho Chang) Hare (Luna - this was first shown in the OotP movie but confirmed in the DH book) Lynx (Kingsley Shacklebolt) Weasel (Arthur Weasley) Cat (McGonagall and Umbridge) Fox (Seamus Finnigan) Boar (Ernie McMillan) Goat (Aberforth Dumbledore) Doe (Lily and Snape) Movies: Horse (Ginny – shown in the same scene that Luna’s Hare was introduced, so we can assume it’s similarly canon. It’s certainly featured in official merch before) Interviews and Pottermore: Phoenix (Albus Dumbledore – technically seen in the books, but as Harry doesn’t get a good look at it it was only confirmed later) Wolf (Remus and Tonks) Jackrabbit (Tonks pre-change) Magpie (Fred and George) I’m expecting to see a new mold for the Doe at the very least. I’m not expecting to see the Boar or Swan, and if we get the Fox it will be because the mold already exists. I’m more optimistic about the Magpies, Weasel, and Lynx (in that order) because their characters are more prominent. We’ll definitely see the return of the Stag (Otter, Hare, and Cat have already been confirmed), and I’m also expecting to see recolors of the Phoenix and Small Dog (Wolf is already confirmed). I’m cautiously optimistic about the Goat. Quote
Roebuck Posted October 15 Posted October 15 9 hours ago, Accio Lego said: If you’d like a list: Thank you Will be interesting to see, I am sure we will get more news soon Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 16 Posted October 16 The cauldron set only coming with Snape and Hermione is pretty lame, but all is forgiven if they include more of those awesome flask pieces, preferably in new colours! Quote
Gorilla94 Posted October 16 Posted October 16 3 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: The cauldron set only coming with Snape and Hermione is pretty lame, but all is forgiven if they include more of those awesome flask pieces, preferably in new colours! May I ask where that info is from? Do we know about the other sets? Quote
Black Falcon Posted October 16 Posted October 16 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Gorilla94 said: May I ask where that info is from? Do we know about the other sets? There is a leak of the product description on Legoleaks Reddit. And no, it is the only Set so far. Edited October 16 by Black Falcon Quote
VinnieCannoli Posted October 16 Posted October 16 Does anyone have any idea what size display case (or cabinet) will need to be used for the final Hogwarts castle? This line is my main expectation from Lego, and I'm having fun collecting it piece by piece. (I'm trying to figure out the approximate size given the two parts of the castle that we currently have (the tower is the tallest part, so at least we've figured out the height..?) The thought of building a giant castle in the end, decorating it (lighting, MOC-ing some parts of it, adding charactershere and there, expanding stuff like Forext...may be building an aquatic part around it) is sure a great thing to think about. This is a collection of sets that require significant space planning, because it will bring joy for many years to come. Quote
(1)Stein Posted October 16 Posted October 16 (edited) 2 hours ago, VinnieCannoli said: Does anyone have any idea what size display case (or cabinet) will need to be used for the final Hogwarts castle? We can only speculate on the hight wich is 68.5 cm, as for the rest not until Lego says their done... If the system ends next year it would be easier to approximate, if they do the back grounds it's anybodies guess! 🤔 Edited October 16 by (1)Stein Quote
Virginia_Bricks Posted October 16 Posted October 16 2 hours ago, VinnieCannoli said: Does anyone have any idea what size display case (or cabinet) will need to be used for the final Hogwarts castle? This line is my main expectation from Lego, and I'm having fun collecting it piece by piece. (I'm trying to figure out the approximate size given the two parts of the castle that we currently have (the tower is the tallest part, so at least we've figured out the height..?) The thought of building a giant castle in the end, decorating it (lighting, MOC-ing some parts of it, adding charactershere and there, expanding stuff like Forext...may be building an aquatic part around it) is sure a great thing to think about. This is a collection of sets that require significant space planning, because it will bring joy for many years to come. The Astronomy Tower if done, could be taller. The Hospital Wing hints heavily at being connected to the Main Tower so that will make it even deeper. Not sure a cabinet or display case will be deep enough. Quote
Gorilla94 Posted October 16 Posted October 16 It's going to be huge but we do not have any measurments at the moment. Like it was said: astronomy tower could increase the height. We can't tell how deep and wide it will be. I will build a custom glass living room table. Quote
brickbride Posted October 17 Posted October 17 8 hours ago, Virginia_Bricks said: The Astronomy Tower if done, could be taller. I kind of doubt that since it would lead to customer confusion if the "Main Tower" isn't the tallest one. But yes, you never know. Quote
BacktoBricks Posted Friday at 04:07 PM Posted Friday at 04:07 PM Well the other set descriptions seem to have gone walkabout, but in other news, if you pick up the forthcoming Goonies GWP then you can get both Mr Weasley and Aunt Marge's torsos. Quote
VinnieCannoli Posted Friday at 09:16 PM Posted Friday at 09:16 PM The anticipation is quite exciting, and I hope we have at least 2 more years of this line. One of those roofs absolutely need Hungarian Horntail, and hopefully we will get a "minifigure scale" one eventually. Quote
Accio Lego Posted Friday at 09:57 PM Posted Friday at 09:57 PM 17 hours ago, brickbride said: I kind of doubt that since it would lead to customer confusion if the "Main Tower" isn't the tallest one. But yes, you never know. What confusion is there to cause? The main tower is the rounded one next to the Great Hall. It contains the Headmaster’s office and likely acts as a high traffic navigation hub for students. Nothing about its title says it has to be the tallest, it’s instead named for its relative position within the castle. The Astronomy Tower houses the observatory where astronomy classes are held and needs to be the tallest to help facilitate that. Quote
brickbride Posted Saturday at 03:05 AM Posted Saturday at 03:05 AM That's a lot of in-story detail. I doubt your average grandparent buying a HP set for their grandchild would know or care about any of it. The kid wants "that Hogwarts set with the really tall tower", so "Hogwarts Castle: The Main Tower" it is. Anything more complicated would, again, IMO only lead to customer confusion. Quote
hunnybunny Posted Saturday at 05:34 AM Posted Saturday at 05:34 AM 2 hours ago, brickbride said: That's a lot of in-story detail. I doubt your average grandparent buying a HP set for their grandchild would know or care about any of it. The kid wants "that Hogwarts set with the really tall tower", so "Hogwarts Castle: The Main Tower" it is. Anything more complicated would, again, IMO only lead to customer confusion. Wait, it makes no sense, you assume grandparent will google to compare physical heights of all sets to determine which one is the tallest when built and will make purchasing decision based on that? Or you assume shop assistants suddenly start pushing products based on technicalities and not on which has the bigger price tag? But you are right about minimizing complications, title of one says "MAIN tower" and the other will say "Astronomy tower". Their exact heights when built are not indicated on the box and there is no reason why one can't be taller than the other. There is nothing more to it. Quote
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