Wizarding World 2025 - Rumors & Discussion

[Legofan04]

  On 5/7/2025 at 4:30 PM, icm said:

You could do a 4+ version 

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They could... lets hope not.

[JeanGreyForever]

  On 5/7/2025 at 4:23 PM, Legofan04 said:

What I hope happens is that Lego goes a similar route that it took with the death star and release a slightly updated version of the same Great Hall or one based off of different scene. Then they could keep this iteration around and continue to expand upon it.

Besides, at this point there's really nothing new that lego could do with the castle that warrants another iteration. Where do you go after making what's been advertised  as the most detailed version ever? 

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This is something I've speculated about as well. Instead of retiring this system, just re-release new versions of the old sets that are still compatible. So when it's normally time to create a new Hogwarts, re-release the Great Hall but make it different from the first one we have that's themed to Sorcerer's Stone. They could theme it to one of the later movies, like maybe GoF with the Yule Ball. It can still fit with this current Hogwarts series so as to not make it obsolete, while still including new stuff so even if people have the first Great Hall, they could still feel justified in getting this remake. They could redo all the current Hogwarts sets for the later movies since so far, it's only been the first two films that are being focused on. 

[Gorilla94]

Wouldn't that be a problem with those parts of the castle that aren't used much in lots of different films? 

Edited May 8 by Gorilla94

[Legofan04]

  On 5/8/2025 at 1:41 PM, Gorilla94 said:

Wouldn't that be a problem with those parts of the castle that aren't used much in lots of different films? 

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Not necessarily. If lego did go that route they would probably only rerelease the main parts and stagger the retirement dates so they  release the parts of the castle that people still clamoring for and those that play ore of a minor role in between. Of course this speculation is based on lego being strategic and having a plan which hasn't been always the case with the Harry Potter theme (or others for that matter).

Otherwise Lego's really worked themselves into a corner. Unless the sales drastically change they aren't going to retire this theme anytime soon as it was in the top selling themes of 2024. If they do another reboot of the castle it would likely need to be visually distinct and different but there is no great option. They can improve on the current design which would likely make it more expensive and alienate kids and collectors. Anything smaller, even if visually similar is going to be seen as inferior.  Visual similarity, especially while  sections of this current castle are currently still on shelves, would confuse parents and more casual fans. There's not much that could be done to make it look visually different without changing the appearance of Hogwarts; this is unlikely. 

[Virginia_Bricks]

  On 5/8/2025 at 5:22 PM, Legofan04 said:

Not necessarily. If lego did go that route they would probably only rerelease the main parts and stagger the retirement dates so they  release the parts of the castle that people still clamoring for and those that play ore of a minor role in between. Of course this speculation is based on lego being strategic and having a plan which hasn't been always the case with the Harry Potter theme (or others for that matter).

Otherwise Lego's really worked themselves into a corner. Unless the sales drastically change they aren't going to retire this theme anytime soon as it was in the top selling themes of 2024. If they do another reboot of the castle it would likely need to be visually distinct and different but there is no great option. They can improve on the current design which would likely make it more expensive and alienate kids and collectors. Anything smaller, even if visually similar is going to be seen as inferior.  Visual similarity, especially while  sections of this current castle are currently still on shelves, would confuse parents and more casual fans. There's not much that could be done to make it look visually different without changing the appearance of Hogwarts; this is unlikely. 

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The show gives them a way out if it succeeds. New casts for minifigs and more locations not shown (or in not as great detail) in the movies.

Otherwise even though sales a strong on this theme currently it will die hard when it does.

Personally I think Lego Harry Potter is done by the end of the decade, but I don't believe the show will succeed.

[Gorilla94]

Ok, if i understand it correctly, the great hall will be retiring next year? 

That means Lego will either end the castle with a 3rd big part 2026 or rerelease the great hall again in 2027... then probably retiring the tower rereleasing it 2028... maybe we get a new big part in 2029 then completing it for the ones, who collected from the beginning? That sounds so different from anything Lego ever did before...

I guess it will stay with 3 big sets. I hope, they'll give us the bloody Baron and a new Professor.

[MaxHeadroom]

  On 5/7/2025 at 4:23 PM, Legofan04 said:

This is why I don't think this iteration is going to stop with 3 major sections in 2026.  The Flying Lesson is going to have to be eventually  attached and lego seems to care about the  look of this castle more than that of the 2021 or 2018 iterations. I don't see Lego going through all the work to give a fairly accurate version  at this price point just to stick a set on at the end  that feels out of place. This iteration is obviously aimed at a slightly older demographic  who likely wouldn't be happy if lego did something like that.

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These are all things you could’ve said about the 2018-2020 version at the time. By far the most detailed and film accurate, at a higher price point than previous iterations, and nowhere for the flying lesson set to go is all true of that castle line. That castle line even had Lego making only two common rooms and not even just the two most popular houses. I hope this current line goes on for years and Lego gives us the front of the castle in full, astronomy tower, clock tower, and even the bell towers if we can get them, but I’m not holding my breath. 

  On 5/9/2025 at 12:05 PM, Gorilla94 said:

Ok, if i understand it correctly, the great hall will be retiring next year? 

That means Lego will either end the castle with a 3rd big part 2026 or rerelease the great hall again in 2027... then probably retiring the tower rereleasing it 2028... maybe we get a new big part in 2029 then completing it for the ones, who collected from the beginning? That sounds so different from anything Lego ever did before...

I guess it will stay with 3 big sets. I hope, they'll give us the bloody Baron and a new Professor.

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Or it means LEGO set the retirement date before the first set was on the market and they had the sales figures for this version of the castle and large playscale sets at that price point. LEGO could increase or decrease the retirement date of the set at anytime.

[Ferder]

Just because there are two cases of the Harry Potter product line resetting after three years doesn't mean it's a rule or even a pattern. The 2018 wave was interrupted for the 20th Anniversary modular collection. That wave ended when it had reached the limit of how well it could be combined into something resembling the basic Castle silhouette. There was no point in continuing it further once Lego saw that the brand was evergreen enough to finally do their concept of a complete and detailed playscale Hogwarts (a concept that actually pre-dates the 2018 wave which was only made connectable as an afterthought). I've posted before about those original "Complete Hogwarts" plans, but can find the quote again if anyone is interested. 

[RODDY]

  On 5/9/2025 at 10:21 PM, Ferder said:

Just because there are two cases of the Harry Potter product line resetting after three years doesn't mean it's a rule or even a pattern. The 2018 wave was interrupted for the 20th Anniversary modular collection. That wave ended when it had reached the limit of how well it could be combined into something resembling the basic Castle silhouette. There was no point in continuing it further once Lego saw that the brand was evergreen enough to finally do their concept of a complete and detailed playscale Hogwarts (a concept that actually pre-dates the 2018 wave which was only made connectable as an afterthought). I've posted before about those original "Complete Hogwarts" plans, but can find the quote again if anyone is interested. 

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Yeah the 2018 Hogwarts was a part of a 3 year plan according to the designers and the fan demand would decide if the theme would stay or if it would be retired and the theme proved to sell well.

Now the design team knows HP is popular I personally think that this most detailed Hogwarts line will be here for a couple more years if not more. I don’t think they would do two waves focused sorely on the Philosophers Stone if they were in a rush to have a complete castle by the end of the third year cycle. It’s crazy you can now recreate every single major scene in that book/film with the sets presently on the shelf. And with potentially a Viaduct Entrance set to round out the missing scenes from Chamber of Secrets, that too will soon be complete. The 20th anniversary Hogwarts imo was something they didn’t plan to happen and was thrown together to the newfound success of the theme, hence why you have a very thrown together final product, initially with a focus on interiors then reverting to more exterior focused sets to form a coherent Hogwarts from the outside. 

Edited May 9 by RODDY

[Gorilla94]

  On 5/9/2025 at 11:39 PM, RODDY said:

Now the design team knows HP is popular [...] I don’t think they would do two waves focused sorely on the Philosophers Stone if they were in a rush to have a complete castle by the end of the third year cycle. It’s crazy you can now recreate every single major scene in that book/film with the sets presently on the shelf. And with potentially a Viaduct Entrance set to round out the missing scenes from Chamber of Secrets, that too will soon be complete.

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I am not that sure about it. The first two are the big thing for me and many others. I adore every second of them. They feel warm and cozy. I watch them every Christmas. With the new producer in the third one everything became so dark... I mean, litterally dark. I wasn´t able so see anything in large parts of them as a kid.

As a teacher I once asked students and lots of them said the same while growing up with all of them unlike me, so it does not seem to be purely my bias about childhood memories. Many even said, they stopped watching them after the 5th movie. Personally I´d be fine with it being focussed on the first 2.

Edited May 11 by Gorilla94

[RODDY]

  On 5/11/2025 at 9:09 AM, Gorilla94 said:

I am not that sure about it. The first two are the big thing for me and many others. I adore every second of them. They feel warm and cozy. I watch them every Christmas. With the new producer in the third one everything became so dark... I mean, litterally dark. I wasn´t able so see anything in large parts of them as a kid.

As a teacher I once asked students and lots of them said the same while growing up with all of them unlike me, so it does not seem to be purely my bias about childhood memories. Many even said, they stopped watching them after the 5th movie. Personally I´d be fine with it being focussed on the first 2.

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I actually agree with a lot of things you said. The first two are the most iconic and beloved because of how whimsical and bright they are, Chamber of Secrets is my favorite of the entire series. And me personally I wouldn’t mind just a Philosophers Stone/Chamber of Secrets exclusive castle, I still think the original castle interior from back in 2001/2002 is my favorite for that reason. But personal preference aside, I don’t see them doing the most detailed Hogwarts ever and only covering a fourth of the movies, especially when the last two lines spanned multiple films. But we will see soon enough hopefully.

[BrickBob Studpants]

  On 5/11/2025 at 6:08 PM, RODDY said:

And me personally I wouldn’t mind just a Philosophers Stone/Chamber of Secrets exclusive castle, I still think the original castle interior from back in 2001/2002 is my favorite for that reason. But personal preference aside, I don’t see them doing the most detailed Hogwarts ever and only covering a fourth of the movies, especially when the last two lines spanned multiple films. But we will see soon enough hopefully.

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If the entire castle was only focussed on those two movies, they'd run out of characters pretty quickly  I don't mind the two big expansions so far being based on PS because of how well they executed it, but variety is where it's at. The other movies deserve some love too 

[RODDY]

  On 5/11/2025 at 6:12 PM, BrickBob Studpants said:

If the entire castle was only focussed on those two movies, they'd run out of characters pretty quickly  I don't mind the two big expansions so far being based on PS because of how well they executed it, but variety is where it's at. The other movies deserve some love too 

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I guess what I’m saying for me at least is that the most essential parts of the Hogwarts castle is the first two movies, mainly the climax action scenes with the Chamber of Secrets and The Challenges. We haven’t had a Hogwarts system that includes both pivotal moments in the same system since the inception of the theme. So if we get both of those in this new Hogwarts system, I’ll be ecstatic. But if they decide to do more from the other movies, I’ll definitely won’t say no, I’m all for it. Especially an Umbridge’s Office and a Lupin DADA classroom. 

Edited May 11 by RODDY

[Virginia_Bricks]

For those in camp 4 years, what goes under the flagship set in Year 4? I expect the Viaduct Entrance to include the Slytherin Common Room and Chamber of Secrets but struggling to think of a memorable enough scene(s) that takes place in the Dungeons to go under an Astronomy Tower or Long Gallery.

[Legofan04]

  On 5/12/2025 at 9:09 PM, Virginia_Bricks said:

For those in camp 4 years, what goes under the flagship set in Year 4? I expect the Viaduct Entrance to include the Slytherin Common Room and Chamber of Secrets but struggling to think of a memorable enough scene(s) that takes place in the Dungeons to go under an Astronomy Tower or Long Gallery.

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All kinds of things. There's the viaduct entrance, astronomy tower, and clock tower at the very least so they could do more than 4 years. The question does come to what they would include. I would think  Lego would end up having to take some creative licenses for scenes where it's unclear where they take place or couldn't include in any of the sets. Either way there's a spot for the a connection of the viaduct entrance in the main tower ( it seems) and the artwork on the box might be pointing to an astronomy tower. Unless they do two parts of the castle next year,  4 years seems likely.  

 

  On 5/9/2025 at 10:21 PM, Ferder said:

There was no point in continuing it further once Lego saw that the brand was evergreen enough to finally do their concept of a complete and detailed playscale Hogwarts (a concept that actually pre-dates the 2018 wave which was only made connectable as an afterthought)

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It would be interesting to see. Maybe it'll give some insight to what they are planning for this castle.

[Ferder]

  On 5/12/2025 at 9:09 PM, Virginia_Bricks said:

For those in camp 4 years, what goes under the flagship set in Year 4? I expect the Viaduct Entrance to include the Slytherin Common Room and Chamber of Secrets but struggling to think of a memorable enough scene(s) that takes place in the Dungeons to go under an Astronomy Tower or Long Gallery.

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What if they left one of the dungeon spots empty, so Potions Class has its own designated home? Unlikely, but I bet a lot people would be happy about that. 

[RODDY]

Couldn’t they technically put the Room of Requirement in the dungeon since it can move around anywhere? 

Edited May 13 by RODDY

[MaxHeadroom]

So when are Lego going to give the fans what they want and do Harry Potter mechs? They’ll probably do Harry, Hermionie, and either a Harris Dumbledore or maybe Voldemort. 

[brickbride]

Dioes anyone actually want mechs? I hear a lot of complaints about them in other themes. Sure, they're a good way to get figs - though EUR 15 for one fig and a bunch of unnecessary parts isn't cheap. And no-one needs more Harrys and Rons, so LEGO'd better come out with a Rita Skeeter mech or something. Though I wouldn't expect that either (or Hermione for that matter) since mechs are even more boy-centric then the rest of LEGO's portfolio.

Plus I don't think HP lends itself to mechs design-wise. Most characters wear school uniforms or dark robes which makes for less exciting colours and less visual distinction than with e.g. Dreamzzz or Ninjago.

Edited May 13 by brickbride

[BrickBob Studpants]

  On 5/13/2025 at 11:31 AM, brickbride said:

Dioes anyone actually want mechs?

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No, it was a joke, nobody wants that

Knocking on wood, but I’m glad the theme has so far steered clear of 4+ sets, mechs, and other gimmicks like that. Sure, call the books and banners gimmicks, but those at least fit with the theme 

[brickbride]

Meh, while I don't want mechs I could do without all the buildable crap, sorry, objects and creatures. I really don't care whether the slots go to mechs or something like that, it means fewer playsets either way.

I also think that the lack of mechs and 4+ sets, and the abundance of very high-priced so-called playsets and buildable decorations might not be the best sign for long-term popularity of the theme. Star Wars is even less kid-friendly than HP in terms of content and message but seems to do a better job attracting the youngest audiences.

Edited May 13 by brickbride

[Legofan04]

  On 5/13/2025 at 4:56 PM, brickbride said:

Star Wars is even less kid-friendly than HP in terms of content and message but seems to do a better job attracting the youngest audiences.

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I don't know if I'd say it's less kid friendly then HP, at least not toy wise. Star wars has space ships, aliens, and what essentially could be described as glowing laser swords.  You can also shoot stuff so there's plenty of action features. Kids go crazy over that type of stuff. With Harry Potter, which is more of a fantasy theme with  a castle and magic, requires more imagination and can be seen as less exciting.  As a kid I loved HP but didn't get many of the sets of the origional theme because I didn't find them exciting.

To me the highscale play sets and buildible objects say more about what Lego thinks kids are interested in then popularity of Harry Potter.  This theme is aimed at a higher age rage and as someone else said Lego has been broadening the demographics as evidence by the HP iconic objects D2C in 2021

Edited May 13 by Legofan04

[BrickMatit]

  On 5/13/2025 at 1:17 PM, BrickBob Studpants said:

No, it was a joke, nobody wants that

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Yeah, like Dobby's sock... oh, wait 

[Jaromir]

I just built the great Hall, since I was delaying buying it till I see the other big part of the Hogwarts castle, and I have to admit it is huge comparing to the previous Great hall sets. I got rivendell which got massive footprint, but I think that Hogwarts will have it much larger. I am amazed with the quality of troll, I think it is the best bigfig that Lego has ever done 

[brickbride]

  On 5/13/2025 at 5:55 PM, Legofan04 said:

I don't know if I'd say it's less kid friendly then HP, at least not toy wise. Star wars has space ships, aliens, and what essentially could be described as glowing laser swords.  You can also shoot stuff so there's plenty of action features. Kids go crazy over that type of stuff.

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That's exactly my point. We're here talking about how HP gets somewhat dark after the first two books (notwithstanding the fact that the first one opens with little Harry being orphaned and left with abusive relatives), but the source material of Star Wars, at least the original six movies, is pretty much solely dedicated to warfare with a side of rampant misogyny. Yet somehow LEGO and other toy companies have managed to translate this into "Isn't war cool?" for the 4+ age group.

  On 5/13/2025 at 5:55 PM, Legofan04 said:

As a kid I loved HP but didn't get many of the sets of the origional theme because I didn't find them exciting.

To me the highscale play sets and buildible objects say more about what Lego thinks kids are interested in then popularity of Harry Potter.  This theme is aimed at a higher age rage and as someone else said Lego has been broadening the demographics as evidence by the HP iconic objects D2C in 2021

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Like you've said: HP has a harder time appealing to kids (that are too young for the movies, and possibly even if they're old enough for them). The sets are increasingly either priced way out of a kid's range or stuff you simply cannot play with. And while LEGO've been broadening the demographics, again, that's only been upwards towards nostalgic adults who I'd guess also make up a significant portion of "playset" buyers in this theme. What kid wants Malfor Manor for Christmas, especially this version that basically consist only of a front, and would receive it at a price of EUR 150? Maybe a few, but I'd assume most buyers of this set are AFOLs who want it for the updated minifigs of Narcissa and Bellatrix. In general, minifigs seem to be the main draw of HP these days and that's not a kids' appeal. Kids as a rule don't care about detailed minifigs of obscure characters (if they want a specific professor for play they can just make their own) and they don't need a new Harry or Ron that's specific to one scene in the movie either.

And again, there's no 4+ set, no mechs (which might not work here as well as in other themes, granted) or microfighter equivalents or other stuff. Why doesn't LEGO do a 4+ Hogwarts Castle the way they've been doing Jedi Temples and Batcaves and even Arkham Asylum? Because four-year-olds care more about Jedi Temples and Batcaves and Arkham Asylum than they care about HP.