Wizarding World 2025 - Rumors & Discussion

[krimimimi]

  On 3/26/2025 at 8:39 AM, MaxHeadroom said:

Calling it now that a normal Marge will not be included. It’s easy bait for hardcore collectors to buy another remake in 5 years time. 

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Ooo! A flutter. It's supposed to be a $90 dollar set. 4 minifigs plus b/f-loat globefig Marge and two named animals seems a bit thin. I'd guess we see diet Marge in the set as well.

The only minifig scale HP set with fewer minifigs per EUR is the Durmstrang ship w Beauxbatons' Carriage, the rest would seem to indicate we'll see both versions of her. Plus I think it's unlikely when they revisit Privet Drive next that they'd do the same scene. Instead of waiting another decade for her, I imagine they'd try to lure us in with a more accurate Aunt Petunia, or Harry being delivered as a baby or something. And if there's a dining table in front of the conservatory, which seems likely, she becomes even more probable. 

[Roebuck]

  On 3/26/2025 at 8:16 AM, BacktoBricks said:

Only the standard closed wings Hedwig from what I can see I'm afraid.

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Better than nothing

[krimimimi]

In the absence of another leak, I thought I'd throw a question out there as to the nature of the HP theme discussion. I was trying to explain some changes over the years to someone who likes neither lego nor HP, and certainly not both together ... (ja ja, the only reason I speak to him is we're married ) But it boiled down to: there's a reduction in buzz in HP forum discussions and excitement, but not in RW sales, so what's happening? 

For some concrete numbers, to make sure it wasn't just a case of mistaken impression, page 16 2nd comment: 

2025 - 26 Mar (started 31 Dec 2024, nearly 3 months)

2024 - 09 Feb (started 05 Jan, 1 month 1/2 week)

2023 - 25 Jan (started 31 Dec 2022, 3 1/2 weeks)

2022 - 04 Jan (started 20 Dec, 2 weeks)

2021 - 14 Jan (started 01 Jan, 2 weeks)

2020 - 01 Feb (started 01 Jan, 1 month)

2019 - 29 Jan (started 14 Nov 2018, 2 months 2 weeks)

2018 - 28 Oct 2017 (started 22 Aug 2017, 2 months 1 week)

So discussion of the theme started off a little slowly back in 2017, picked up interest peeking in 2021 and 2022, and has been dwindling off again. The RW sales for HP, on the other hand, remain consistently good, top 5 material, so interest in the theme in RL seemingly hasn't waned, so what do you think is happening?

Is "top 5" masking a sales drop? Does EB see less use overall? Are the HP fans just all talked out? Has bashing on the fandom become too much of a thing, either due to JKR vs half the world or the impending remake? Or does it have more to do with how we receive information about the theme? 

One of the things I think makes a difference, and unfortunately it's not as easy to check, but my impression was that we didn't use to have the lists with names as early, maybe numbers with piece counts and prices instead, but with those lists has gone a chunk of the speculation. I believe we used to spend more time guessing which sets from which years, and now it's more about how many / which minifigs, if it's nano- or play-scale or perhaps a buildable creature, but that that doesn't seem to provide as much fruit for discussion. If you know, for example, the set is called "Aunt Marge's Visit", you know it's Privet Drive from PoA, and there goes all manner of speculating, gone. Is that it, or is it something else?

Anyway, I was curious what you lot think. 

[Virginia_Bricks]

This year’s first wave came on 1/1 versus  3/1 most other years. Which means all the leaks and speculation happened in last years thread and not this years. I think the explains the majority of the change in when the 16th page was hit.

I mean we have 16 pages of conversation about a themed toy line.

[karrit]

I think there seems to be a lot less traffic on the forums these days.  So many people are getting their info from social media now as opposed to forums like this.  Over time trusted sources of info have changed a lot.  It's hard to know who to trust as it changes so often.  I think a lot of the people here are into LEGO for years past, present & most likely into the future.  Many of the social media sources only got into LEGO during Covid and aren't as invested in the hobby as most true AFOL's.  Honestly I believe many of them are just into it for the free merchandise rather than true love of LEGO.  The majority of people that get their info from social media are less inclined to search out & participate in these old style forums.

[brickbride]

I think most of the HP sales are still accounted for by people outside our AFOL bubble. For every @BrickBob Studpantswho wants to collect all the new minifigs there's ten kids who just want HP stuff - new minifigs or not, doesn't matter. So what we do here doesn't really reflect on sales at all, and most customers learn about the sets when they are either in the catalogue or on the shelves.

[Clone OPatra]

Personally while EB use in general these days ebbs and flows, interest in the theme would definitely have tapered off among the long-time adult fan segment just because LEGO covered almost everything in a matter of just a few years.

When they relaunched Harry Potter it was incredibly exciting overall, and even more so because they were paying close care and attention in a way they had never done previously. They obviously couldn't do it all at once, so it continued to be really exciting as they progressed through the films, and even when they circled back with the first Hogwarts reboot there were still significant gaps.

Now though, it's like the occasional Durmstrang Ship type set is all new (within the 2018- theme), but otherwise it's bits and pieces of sets that are interesting, and that leads to less general interest in discussing the theme.

[Roebuck]

  On 3/26/2025 at 10:45 PM, krimimimi said:

Anyway, I was curious what you lot think. 

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I think it is a lot of good points here from the other reply's.

Mainly I think Forums are less popular than they used to be and for me personally I have more or less stopped buying HP sets. I still think they are great, they manage to make something new with every edition, but how many Great halls do I need etc? Lego are expensive and I have limited space on shelf's so the last couple of years the sets just stay in the box and take up space. Kids and new afols do not have that problem so they can buy the new great hall as their first one just like a City police station and a SW millennium falcon

[BrickBob Studpants]

I think there are multiple factors at play here, as others have pointed out:

• Gringotts, one of the most-wanted sets that always caused a lot of discussion, has finally been done in 2023.
• (Almost) everything important has been covered, and speculating about remakes isn‘t quite as engaging.
• We don‘t have HP minifig factory leaks anymore, which sparked a lot of speculation and discussion in the early days of the theme
• Fewer playsets to discuss overall with buildable creatures and objects taking up slots.
• Less predictable patterns compared to the first three years of the theme, where the waves proceeded chronologically through the movies.
• A very short list of missing (important) characters, which makes speculating about upcoming minifigs less exciting.

It‘s still fun to me, but I can’t deny that some of the magic is wearing off now

[MaxHeadroom]

Aside from our spring wave becoming a January winter wave, Minifigure leaks are gone and we don’t seem to get text description leaks anymore. The HP line is also incredibly structured now even if the individual years aren’t as structured. Every three years the castle resets with a Great Hall set and we go back mostly to the first movie or two, then we go to a bit further to the middle of the series in year two, and finally everything is thrown out the window in year three. Not to mention stuff like always getting a potions set and training grounds set early on. There’s the formulaic Diagon Alley line too, there’s the buildable stuff no one cares about, and at that point there are only so many sets left and we all can predict generally what remakes are next. Occasionally we’re surprised with something like Malfoy Manor but I don’t think we can really predict stuff like that.  
 

So heres discussion topics for those inclined: 

What movie will the tower set this summer be loosely based on?

Will LEGO actually complete the 2018 micro castle front with this line? If so, will we get any bridges?

Will we get a Clock Tower set in this cycle?

What movie will the inevitable playscale Gringotts be based on? 

What surprise set that we haven’t had yet in the revival (or ever) do you think will come next?

What remakes are we expecting next year? Hogwarts Express? Hungarian Horntail? 

Will we ever go back to sweaters or will Hogwarts torsos always be robes now?

Will we ever get a Deathy Hallows Ron not wearing a polyjuice costume? 

[brickbride]

StoneWars has an article up about current HP rumours. The only thing new to me is that it gives the list price of the Herbology Class, in EUR, as EUR 49.99. This is less than I'd have thought given the previously mentioned USD price - however I would not expect a Greenhouse at this price point, given that the Potions Class, a mere interior module, was already EUR 40.

[BrickBob Studpants]

  On 3/27/2025 at 11:08 AM, brickbride said:

StoneWars has an article up about current HP rumours. The only thing new to me is that it gives the list price of the Herbology Class, in EUR, as EUR 49.99.

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There‘s another tidbit here that doesn‘t ring a bell, namely the price of the still unknown set 76458 at $69.99  We can add that one to @MaxHeadroom‘s list

No idea what to expect for that price, since recent retail exclusives like Grimmauld Place and the Durmstrang ship were more expensive. Another buildable creature/object would be my guess

[BrickMatit]

  On 3/27/2025 at 9:34 AM, MaxHeadroom said:

What movie will the tower set this summer be loosely based on?

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CoS is my main guess. Then, but a lot less likely, in my opinion, OotP.

  On 3/27/2025 at 9:34 AM, MaxHeadroom said:

Will LEGO actually complete the 2018 micro castle front with this line? If so, will we get any bridges?

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Well, not totally unlikely, I think. The Viaduct could be part of the next year big set (imagining it'll be the Viaduct Entrance); not sure about tha small bridge in the back ground.

  On 3/27/2025 at 9:34 AM, MaxHeadroom said:

Will we get a Clock Tower set in this cycle?

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I'm doubtful about it at the moment. I would say no.

  On 3/27/2025 at 9:34 AM, MaxHeadroom said:

What movie will the inevitable playscale Gringotts be based on? 

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PS.

  On 3/27/2025 at 9:34 AM, MaxHeadroom said:

What surprise set that we haven’t had yet in the revival (or ever) do you think will come next?

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I would say Lovegood House and Camping and Doe scene from DH.

  On 3/27/2025 at 9:34 AM, MaxHeadroom said:

What remakes are we expecting next year? Hogwarts Express? Hungarian Horntail?

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Hungarian Horntail is a good guess. Hogwarts Express is too recent, I think.

  On 3/27/2025 at 9:34 AM, MaxHeadroom said:

Will we ever go back to sweaters or will Hogwarts torsos always be robes now?

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I hope yes, just to have more variation.

  On 3/27/2025 at 9:34 AM, MaxHeadroom said:

Will we ever get a Deathy Hallows Ron not wearing a polyjuice costume? 

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In the end, I think LEGO will produce something DH related. So, yes, I think we could see a DH Ron. 

[ArrowBricks]

  On 3/27/2025 at 5:54 AM, Clone OPatra said:

Personally while EB use in general these days ebbs and flows, interest in the theme would definitely have tapered off among the long-time adult fan segment just because LEGO covered almost everything in a matter of just a few years.

When they relaunched Harry Potter it was incredibly exciting overall, and even more so because they were paying close care and attention in a way they had never done previously. They obviously couldn't do it all at once, so it continued to be really exciting as they progressed through the films, and even when they circled back with the first Hogwarts reboot there were still significant gaps.

Now though, it's like the occasional Durmstrang Ship type set is all new (within the 2018- theme), but otherwise it's bits and pieces of sets that are interesting, and that leads to less general interest in discussing the theme.

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Very adequately put. 

 

  On 3/27/2025 at 9:34 AM, MaxHeadroom said:

So heres discussion topics for those inclined: 

What movie will the tower set this summer be loosely based on?

Will LEGO actually complete the 2018 micro castle front with this line? If so, will we get any bridges?

Will we get a Clock Tower set in this cycle?

What movie will the inevitable playscale Gringotts be based on? 

What surprise set that we haven’t had yet in the revival (or ever) do you think will come next?

What remakes are we expecting next year? Hogwarts Express? Hungarian Horntail? 

Will we ever go back to sweaters or will Hogwarts torsos always be robes now?

Will we ever get a Deathy Hallows Ron not wearing a polyjuice costume? 

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CoS 

Yes 

Yes 

DH would be interesting, but likely PS. 

D2C Battle of Hogwarts, GWP Vanishing Cabinet, Defence Against the Dark Arts Classroom (POA), Buildable Cornish Pixie

Quidditch Pitch, Umbridge, Hospital Wing (HBP)

Robes 

Yes 

[BacktoBricks]

  On 3/27/2025 at 9:34 AM, MaxHeadroom said:

So heres discussion topics for those inclined: 

What movie will the tower set this summer be loosely based on? COS

Will LEGO actually complete the 2018 micro castle front with this line? If so, will we get any bridges? Yes. 

Will we get a Clock Tower set in this cycle? Yes. It's been in the past two sets and the clock provides a nice display and play feature and is distinctive so a good central point for a standalone set.

What movie will the inevitable playscale Gringotts be based on? PS. Keeps the playset more fun and the D2C more 'grown up' with the content from the darker movie.

What surprise set that we haven’t had yet in the revival (or ever) do you think will come next? Leaky Cauldron, Knockturn Alley, Lovegood House, Booknook Diagon Alley entrance

What remakes are we expecting next year? Hogwarts Express? Hungarian Horntail? Hungarian Horntail, Quidditch Pitch, Chamber of Secrets

Will we ever go back to sweaters or will Hogwarts torsos always be robes now? Robes probably for castle sets as they are more movie accurate, but sweaters maybe still on occasion. Sweaters were in the Advent Calender last year just with the added scarves

Will we ever get a Deathy Hallows Ron not wearing a polyjuice costume? DH Ron in the inevitable COS remake or with whatever set includes the viaduct maybe.

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[Tariq j]

  On 3/27/2025 at 9:34 AM, MaxHeadroom said:

So heres discussion topics for those inclined: 

What movie will the tower set this summer be loosely based on?

Will LEGO actually complete the 2018 micro castle front with this line? If so, will we get any bridges?

Will we get a Clock Tower set in this cycle?

What movie will the inevitable playscale Gringotts be based on? 

What surprise set that we haven’t had yet in the revival (or ever) do you think will come next?

What remakes are we expecting next year? Hogwarts Express? Hungarian Horntail? 

Will we ever go back to sweaters or will Hogwarts torsos always be robes now?

Will we ever get a Deathy Hallows Ron not wearing a polyjuice costume? 

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1. CoS. I imagine the Slytherin Common Room being a key part of the set.

2. Yes

3. Yes, I suspect that will be the section that focuses on the 3rd film.

4. PS. I could see them maybe including a small Easter egg to DH (like a cup in a vault or a picture of the dragon or something). 

5. Luna’s House, D2C Flying Ford Anglia, the 3rd task Maze from Goblet of Fire. A microscale version of the Ministry of Magic could be quite fun - similar to the castle you depict the different rooms like Umbridge’s office, the prophecy room, the court room etc. 

6. Quidditch Pitch, Moaning Myrtle’s bathroom.

7. Robes.

8. Yes.

 

[RODDY]

For me I have loss interest in the theme because I have felt that everything I could possibly and feasibly want from the movies/books has already been made and the remakes while cool (I actually really like the new 4 Privet Drive set) are a no go from me, I’m one and done unless it’s a major improvement. The last full wave I bought was in 2022, having bought every single wave outright since the return of the theme in 2018. From 2023 onwards, I bought a set here and there. 2023 Black Lake & Gringotts, 2024 Durmstrang Ship, 2025 Dueling Club and maybe I’ll get Malfoy Manor on discount. If they make a Lovegood House or Inferi Cave I’ll pick those up but beyond that, there’s nothing that interests me personally. But I do think Lego Harry Potter’s sales are largely attributed to those outside the AFOL community hence why the sales are still strong, kids will intermingle the various castle sections despite them being from different systems, myself not so much I’d rather have one uniform Hogwarts. 

[brickbride]

What movie will the tower set this summer be loosely based on? CoS

Will LEGO actually complete the 2018 micro castle front with this line? If so, will we get any bridges? Nope.

Will we get a Clock Tower set in this cycle? There'll probably be a clock added somewhere, like there was in the 2021 system on top of the Hospital Wing.

What movie will the inevitable playscale Gringotts be based on? DH. One tiny building with one tiny dragon, cost of at least EUR 100.

What surprise set that we haven’t had yet in the revival (or ever) do you think will come next? Lovegood House. Might be another two or three years, though.

What remakes are we expecting next year? Hogwarts Express? Hungarian Horntail? Hogwarts Express within the next two years. And if we're (un)lucky a Hungarian Horntail to go with this year's Fawkes and last year's Hedwig at Privet Drive (meaning around EUR 20 and looking bad).

Will we ever go back to sweaters or will Hogwarts torsos always be robes now? Don't know, don't care.

Will we ever get a Deathy Hallows Ron not wearing a polyjuice costume? Probably, but he'll come with an expensive set.

Edited March 28 by brickbride

[BrickBob Studpants]

  On 3/27/2025 at 9:34 AM, MaxHeadroom said:

What movie will the tower set this summer be loosely based on?

Will LEGO actually complete the 2018 micro castle front with this line? If so, will we get any bridges?

Will we get a Clock Tower set in this cycle?

What movie will the inevitable playscale Gringotts be based on? 

What surprise set that we haven’t had yet in the revival (or ever) do you think will come next?

What remakes are we expecting next year? Hogwarts Express? Hungarian Horntail? 

Will we ever go back to sweaters or will Hogwarts torsos always be robes now?

Will we ever get a Deathy Hallows Ron not wearing a polyjuice costume? 

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1. Expecting CoS, hoping for PoA or OotP.
2. No. The set will be 7 years old this year, so if they release a follow-up, they would share only a portion of their shelf life and nobody would buy the expansion without already owning the original since it includes the most iconic sections.
3. Yes. I expect the „most detailed“ Hogwarts to feature all the important bits, and this is definitely one of them
4. PS, to distinguish it from the D2C set.
5. Shell Cottage or the Lovegood house.
6. Voldemort‘s rebirth, a new CoS, and a Quidditch Pitch.
7. I can see them doing both in parallel.
8. Yes. Maybe a small set with the Gryffindor sword in the pond?

 

[BrickMatit]

  On 3/28/2025 at 2:00 AM, RODDY said:

For me I have loss interest in the theme because I have felt that everything I could possibly and feasibly want from the movies/books has already been made

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That's a good point and I agree with you. But I think that people loss of interest is just part of the reason for the reduction in buzz in HP forum discussions and excitement pointed out by @krimimimi Absence of minifigure leaks and text description leaks reduces the engagement. And maybe there's less new people in the thread, that could be excited for something they've just started collecting. I don't know about any of you, but I started collecting Harry Potter LEGO in 2018 and I know that any new wave will probably have less and less interesting thing to arouse my excitement.

[brickbride]

There's also the fact that the sets are getting worse. And I'm including Lego's tendency towards bigger and bigger sets in this trend, as well as their annoying sales system.

Like - is the new First Flying Lesson an improvement on the one from 2021? In absolute terms, yes, I guess, since it's bigger and includes more minifigs.

But it also costs nearly three times as much. So a) it is way more expensive in absolute terms. b) It isn't that good a deal, relatively speaking, either (if anything it should include even more minifigs for that price). c) It takes up too much shelf space without a real payoff, as the scene takes place outside and a single castle wall is really all you need for play purposes. d) Since that's the only Flying Lesson currently on the shelves AND it's a LEGO exclusive to boot, a large number of kids are now denied the chance to replay this particular, child-friendly, play-friendly scene (since either their parents can't or won't afford the EUR 80 set or they have no idea how to order from LEGO directly or even that there are sets not found in the regular catalogue).

An affordable playset has become an outlier in this theme. 

Before the reboot, unless I'm mistaken we had fourteen different sets priced from USD 7 to USD 13 (not even counting the smallest sets like the Lab and Flying Lesson). I wasn't into LEGO at the time but that's a number and a price range where you could have saved your allowance and gotten something to show for it.

You know how many sets up to EUR 20 (not counting polybags or accessory packs) we've had for this theme since the reboot in 2018? A whopping eleven in seven years. For a childrens' theme. And nearly all of them are at the high EUR 20 price point. Instead of the range we'd had before (mostly parts of the castle and grounds and Diagon Alley shops) these tend to be worse value, often consisting of like the figs and a single small build. In addition, some of them are probably too dark for your average kid (Rise of Voldemort and Grindelwald's Escape), there's that useless Hedwig in Privet Drive set with no play value unless you want to move her wings or something, there's the Ford Anglia where you might as well get a cheaper City set instead if you want a car and two male characters.

It doesn't get much better from there, either. There's only four more sets for the category of up to EUR 30, plus the Moments books some years back. And those are all outliers, too - Dueling Club, Hermione and Ron in the Forest, Umbridge Encounter, Triwizard Tournament. Not a single castle wall anywhere to be seen. Parts of Hogwarts Castle now start at EUR 38 with the Boathouse and then you only get a teeny-tiny build. (The Polyjuice Potions Mistake and the old Room of Requirement were laudable exceptions here but neither of them's available any more.) In effect, many kids have pretty much been priced out of Hogwarts in the HP theme.

For short: There's way too few affordable sets, a lot of those are either not kid-friendly or not really what the series is about, and your average childrens' birthday present budget will get you a tiny part of the castle at best. I'm sure there are plenty of adult collectors yearning for a EUR 250 Main Tower, and some parents who can afford it in terms of shelf space and money, but for a lot of people LEGO HP simply is no longer an option.

Edited March 28 by brickbride

[Virginia_Bricks]

  On 3/28/2025 at 12:42 PM, brickbride said:

There's also the fact that the sets are getting worse.

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That is very objective statement and not a fact. For myself, I am happy I just back into Lego last year because the most recent Castle Modular wave, in my opinion, is by far the best one we have had. The exteriors blow every other one away and the interiors while lacking at times are not worse than any modular wave before.

And prices have sure gone up, but there were only 2 sets at $7 and one at $8 which reflect to $13 and $15 in 2025 dollars. A $10 set in the original wave is what a $20 set is now. I have one of those $10 sets (4751) from my childhood and it stands out like a sore thumb compared to today's $20 sets.

Also look at the price per piece ratio on the original sets. All well above the golden $0.10 a piece. IP branded castle sets (ie have large pieces) always skew more expensive and Harry Potter hasn't changed in that regard.

[MaxHeadroom]

  On 3/27/2025 at 9:34 AM, MaxHeadroom said:

So heres discussion topics for those inclined: 

What movie will the tower set this summer be loosely based on?

2 is the most predictable so probably that

Will LEGO actually complete the 2018 micro castle front with this line? If so, will we get any bridges?

I have no faith they’ll actually complete the front silhouette of the castle if they’re wasting time and $80 slots on the training grounds. 

Will we get a Clock Tower set in this cycle?

Probably? I imagine it’s more likely than the viaduct entrance and the rest of the front of the castle. 

What movie will the inevitable playscale Gringotts be based on? 
 

1 as it’s the least interesting option. 

What surprise set that we haven’t had yet in the revival (or ever) do you think will come next?

I’d like to finally get the DH1 tent. I think Borgin and Burkes would be the most likely thing though. 

What remakes are we expecting next year? Hogwarts Express? Hungarian Horntail? 
HE retires in 2025 so maybe. I think a Horntail is inevitable and I’d love one in the style of the Gringotts dragon. The idea of a cheap and ugly $20 out of scale dragon like the recent Hedwig set does sound like something LEGO would do though. 

Will we ever go back to sweaters or will Hogwarts torsos always be robes now?

Seems like they’re sticking with robes but I’m sure they will eventually. 

Will we ever get a Deathy Hallows Ron not wearing a polyjuice costume? 
Maybe? Their avoidance of DH in general and Ron specifically really makes me wonder if they’ll ever make a DH set with the space for him. 

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I’ll take my own bait lol

[brickbride]

  On 3/28/2025 at 2:18 PM, Virginia_Bricks said:

I have one of those $10 sets (4751) from my childhood and it stands out like a sore thumb compared to today's $20 sets.

Also look at the price per piece ratio on the original sets. All well above the golden $0.10 a piece.

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Meh, I like the older sets, they have character. And you really cannot go by the .10 rule with them either because the pieces were much larger back then. A small old set like 4735 Slytherin (90 pieces) has about the footprint of 2021's PPM (more than twice as many pieces). 

[RODDY]

So we officially have the D2C Hogsmeade Village confirmed with a piece count of 3228 with it releasing in September. 

Edited March 29 by RODDY