Mandalorianknight Posted October 30 Posted October 30 17 hours ago, psqidexslizer said: A boycott of American films by China wouldn’t just be for Captain America. It would also apply to the films you just listed. You can look at box office numbers between last year and this year. Chinese audiences spent significantly less on American films despite the Chinese box office overall gross being higher. So we're entirely done with "superman failed internationally because superman as a character is so linked to America"? If we're saying it's just all american movies, superman being associated with america doesn't really make sense to single out anymore, especially when the worst-performing in china of major superhero movies this year was the one I think everybody would agree is less associated with america than superman or BNW. (Also I'll point out the comment I was quoting was talking specifically about BNW- I don't keep up with chinese social media, but I'll take your word for it that there were boycott attempts on all three). MCU movies haven't been doing well there for years- not all recent outings have even been allowed to be shown in china, but while some movies like Guardians 3 or Quantumania did well in china, others like Wakanda Forever did just as bad as BNW or Thunderbolts in china despite making twice as much overall. Even DP&W, a huge success, has about the same percentage of it's total gross from china as those movies (about 4%). The failure of superhero movies this year in china isn't much of a departure from how they've been doing in china for years now. I really don't you can blame superman's performance on anti-american sentiment to any statistically significant level. 12 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: I don‘t see how China being a dictatorship changes what I said. I don‘t really want to get into all that since I try to avoid the topic as much as I can, but I will quickly justify my choice of words regardless. „Regime“ is an appropriate term for a government where checks & balances no longer apply, separation of power ceases to exist, congress is bypassed, and where the government threatens to use the army against its own citizens, and that‘s just the tip of the iceberg You can downplay it as much as you like, but the trajectory this takes is not leading anywhere good. You try to avoid that topic as much as you can, yet you call my government -that's administration came in via winning an election, unless you also want to say my country's holding sham elections- a regime with the sole prompting of "is superman not doing as well internationally because the character tends to be more strongly tied to america?", and then proceed to all but call it a dictatorship. Doesn't seem like you're trying that hard to avoid it. I don't know how much focus on US conlaw you guys have in Sweden, because, like, assumably you'd have more focus on Swedish conlaw, but constant judicial challenges to the executive branch's actions has been a thing for as long as I can remember. I've been personally part of one (we won and they said the executive branch couldn't do the thing), trust me, I know this well. It goes through the system and the supreme court eventually determines whether or not it's allowed, a precedent gets set, and to this day the only president to do something after the judicial branch explicitly set the precedent that he couldn't was Andrew Jackson. In ever other instance- of which there have been many, for many decades- either the precedent is followed in future actions or the initial action eventually gets reversed. But this has LITERALLY nothing to do with the performance of superman internationally or anything else this thread could remotely cover. So maybe instead of calling my government a regime and implying some pretty awful stuff about it, you should get back to that. I don't come here trying to dunk on your country- and yes, we do get news about Sweden here, there's actually been a big story about it in our news cycle this week, but I don't come in and comment on it because this is a lego thread. 7 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said: you're the one who switch the tracks Was I? In any way? I didn't bring up the idea that superman did poorly internationally due to association with america, and didn't bring up anything political in my response, just saying that I didn't think he was any more associated with america than some other characters. I wasn't the one who brought up politics, I simply responded to someone else calling my democratically elected government a regime. In what way was I the one who switched the tracks? I've never been the one to bring these things up, because I don't like to talk about these things in relation to lego, but I also don't sit by and let stuff continue one-sided. Hell, I wasn't even the one who brought up whether or not the DCU was doing well in the first place. 5 hours ago, G_Brickley said: Oh no that's perfectly valid, my grievance was more of a general one with overall fandom discourse, not anyone specific to this thread. I've just seen so many "my dad could beat up your dad" style arguments in YouTube comments and the like using box office results as evidence, it does my nut in We're on the same page then, the box office generally isn't an end-all-be-all of film quality. 5 hours ago, G_Brickley said: Yeah these are basically my thoughts. The people who need to think it was a success think that it was, regardless of what we may think. My argument would be that unless it bombed so hard that they shut down the universe off that alone, there was always going to be a sequel. It's not like Peacemaker where the character's not exactly in the big three so you can shuffle him off the board without dramatically impacting the cinematic universe. Quote
psqidexslizer Posted October 30 Posted October 30 43 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said: So we're entirely done with "superman failed internationally because superman as a character is so linked to America"? If we're saying it's just all american movies, superman being associated with america doesn't really make sense to single out anymore, especially when the worst-performing in china of major superhero movies this year was the one I think everybody would agree is less associated with america than superman or BNW. (Also I'll point out the comment I was quoting was talking specifically about BNW- I don't keep up with chinese social media, but I'll take your word for it that there were boycott attempts on all three). MCU movies haven't been doing well there for years- not all recent outings have even been allowed to be shown in china, but while some movies like Guardians 3 or Quantumania did well in china, others like Wakanda Forever did just as bad as BNW or Thunderbolts in china despite making twice as much overall. Even DP&W, a huge success, has about the same percentage of it's total gross from china as those movies (about 4%). The failure of superhero movies this year in china isn't much of a departure from how they've been doing in china for years now. I really don't you can blame superman's performance on anti-american sentiment to any statistically significant level. “Superman did poorly internationally due to his heavy ties to America” and “Hollywood movies have done poorly in China due to boycotts” aren’t mutually exclusive statements. The internationally box office is more than just China. Look at the international and domestic box offices for films released this year. Superman stands out among them for its abysmally bad international box office, both in terms of the intentional total and as a percentage of the worldwide gross. You mean to tell me the character who has been heavily associated with America for decades did poorly internationally at a time when the we’re seeing heavy internationally backlash to the US, but those two things couldn’t possibly be related? As for the MCU’s box office in China, you are absolutely correct that they’ve been doing poorly there for the past several years. To your point, the amount of money Hollywood has made from China dropped off in 2020 and has been in decline ever since. But we’ve seen a very sharp decline this year, and that’s due to Chinese boycotting American products, including films, in response to the tariffs. In essence, both Superman’s relation to America and souring relations between the US and China are factors that have contributed to Superman’s poor international box office gross. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 30 Posted October 30 1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said: I don't know how much focus on US conlaw you guys have in Sweden […] I don‘t know either, because I‘m Swiss, not Swedish Not sure why you perceive this as a personal attack of sorts. 1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said: […] calling my democratically elected government a regime. A) Historically, a lot of didactors got elected democratically first, so that‘s not a contradiction. B) Not sure what else to call a government with a president proudly acting above the law, blowing up boats, threatening protesters, demolishing public property, musing about a third term etc. My point in regards to Soup was simply that once this administration starts interfering with movies, which seems increasingly likely, I‘m out. Feel free to criticise my government in turn, I‘ll likely join in, not defend them The federal council is currently the most useless it has been in decades. Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted October 30 Posted October 30 1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said: Was I? In any way? I didn't bring up the idea that superman did poorly internationally due to association with america, and didn't bring up anything political in my response That's fair game whether or not you agree with it, that is relevant to China dropping Hollywood movies and you admitted Canada and other European countries likely have similar sentiments. Brickbob's regime comment is a flippant joke but plenty of us have made similar quips about China or Russia on here. You can disagree with that but it's not unique and by going on a big rant about how the entire discussion is political digging you made this a political debate rather than a discussion that someone happened to dare throw a quip about your favourite [REDACTED] Like the equivalent response would be you make some dumb quip about wherever he's from or say something cancer about how he's the freedom president if you gotta defend the [REDACTED] (Though ideally find someone who isn't a [REDACTED] to get so defensive about) 42 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said: “Superman did poorly internationally due to his heavy ties to America” and “Hollywood movies have done poorly in China due to boycotts” aren’t mutually exclusive statements. The internationally box office is more than just China. Look at the international and domestic box offices for films released this year. Superman stands out among them for its abysmally bad international box office, both in terms of the intentional total and as a percentage of the worldwide gross. You mean to tell me the character who has been heavily associated with America for decades did poorly internationally at a time when the we’re seeing heavy internationally backlash to the US, but those two things couldn’t possibly be related? As for the MCU’s box office in China, you are absolutely correct that they’ve been doing poorly there for the past several years. To your point, the amount of money Hollywood has made from China dropped off in 2020 and has been in decline ever since. But we’ve seen a very sharp decline this year, and that’s due to Chinese boycotting American products, including films, in response to the tariffs. In essence, both Superman’s relation to America and souring relations between the US and China are factors that have contributed to Superman’s poor international box office gross. Yeah, very well put Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted October 30 Posted October 30 1 hour ago, psqidexslizer said: “Superman did poorly internationally due to his heavy ties to America” and “Hollywood movies have done poorly in China due to boycotts” aren’t mutually exclusive statements. The internationally box office is more than just China. Look at the international and domestic box offices for films released this year. Superman stands out among them for its abysmally bad international box office, both in terms of the intentional total and as a percentage of the worldwide gross. You mean to tell me the character who has been heavily associated with America for decades did poorly internationally at a time when the we’re seeing heavy internationally backlash to the US, but those two things couldn’t possibly be related? As for the MCU’s box office in China, you are absolutely correct that they’ve been doing poorly there for the past several years. To your point, the amount of money Hollywood has made from China dropped off in 2020 and has been in decline ever since. But we’ve seen a very sharp decline this year, and that’s due to Chinese boycotting American products, including films, in response to the tariffs. In essence, both Superman’s relation to America and souring relations between the US and China are factors that have contributed to Superman’s poor international box office gross. They aren't mutually exclusive, but we keep shifting what the argument is, and it stands to reason that if both factors were at play, the american movies with superman/especially the one with a captain america would be the ones at the bottom of the barrel, not F4. As for this, I've already said I'm sure it could have had some minor bit in areas such as canada or parts of europe, but I think blaming it's failure internationally on that is a pretty big cop-out, especially since China, which to my knowledge is the only one actually organizing boycotts of these movies, has rates that aren't all that inconsistent with how it's been going for superhero films there. (which goes for the third point as well, only one of the three MCU movies released this year did any more abysmally in china than you'd expect, and it was the one least connected to the US). And once again, the fact that CA4 did just fine internationally (I mean, in terms of %international vs %domestic.) would imply that that isn't the issue. You would assume however tied to america Superman is, Captain America would be more tied to it. 1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said: I don‘t know either, because I‘m Swiss, not Swedish Not sure why you perceive this as a personal attack of sorts. A) Historically, a lot of didactors got elected democratically first, so that‘s not a contradiction. B) Not sure what else to call a government with a president proudly acting above the law, blowing up boats, threatening protesters, demolishing public property, musing about a third term etc. My point in regards to Soup was simply that once this administration starts interfering with movies, which seems increasingly likely, I‘m out. Feel free to criticise my government in turn, I‘ll likely join in, not defend them The federal council is currently the most useless it has been in decades. My apologies. Though I'm unsure how you don't get why calling my government a "regime" and repeatedly implying it's more or less a dictatorship in a lego forum would be aggravating to me. That seems pretty straightforward, I'm honestly not even sure what I would need to add to it to explain further. Right, so realistically the mature thing to do would be not dignify this with a response because of how off the rail's it's gotten from the thread, but I will leave my answer in a spoiler to show that I do HAVE answers for all of these. It's the last I'll speak on it, clearly the mods have not been monitoring this thread so it's on us to end it. I think we're similarly pedantic so if you also have to have a last word probably smart to also put it in spoilers. If you want, don't read this one, or I can not read yours, and then it's done. Spoiler to go through all of these in turn: "Above the law" is a bit too vague to answer and once again has been levied at every president in my lifetime and I think pretty vocally and consistently since the first time a president conducted war without a declaration from congress decades ago, but I'll just say once more that the supreme court continues to be the end-all-be all, that significant judicial challenges face pretty much every presidential action and I've personally been a part of overturning a presidential action in that manner. The precedent of every decision they've made has stayed upheld unless changed by them, with the aforementioned exception in 1832. Destroying drug boats isn't really a dictator thing, and western nations and specifically the US conducting international strikes to the extent of bombing or drone striking people is more or less that "illusion of choice" meme in terms of how common it's been among every administration for decades, so it's not unique to this administration either. At least it's not like some previous administrations that had a bad habit of striking random middle-eastern children and then going "whoops my bad, those were actually just innocent people", which seems like it would be more of an issue. I don't consider posting memes much of a dictatorial threat. Every president's done remodeling to the white house, and plenty of presidents in the US have made bigger changes to the white house than this one (this one's such a weird non-issue to me because even in the way you phrased this list it's like really? This one's anywhere near the level of what you say the others are?), including, ironically, one who also had a third term. Although it's been pretty clear for a while now that whatever "musing" or trolling is going on, the administration's pick for the 2028 nominee's been actively stated a few times, including like two days ago when we got their preference for both the 2028 president and VP, and neither are the current president. But again, none of this has anything to do with the lego DC thread. Sure. If the US government comes in and forces Gunn to change Man of Tomorrow, I'll join you in condemning it. (I might be being a bit vague here, like obviously if the MPAA tells him that the movie is going to be rated R unless he cuts the graphic Superman/Lex romance scene, that wouldn't count, but you get the spirit of it) But that's the point, this is a lego dc thread, why would I come in and make accusations against the swiss government? 57 minutes ago, Renny The Spaceman said: That's fair game whether or not you agree with it, that is relevant to China dropping Hollywood movies and you admitted Canada and other European countries likely have similar sentiments. Brickbob's regime comment is a flippant joke but plenty of us have made similar quips about China or Russia on here. You can disagree with that but it's not unique and by going on a big rant about how the entire discussion is political digging you made this a political debate rather than a discussion that someone happened to dare throw a quip about your favourite [REDACTED] Like the equivalent response would be you make some dumb quip about wherever he's from or say something cancer about how he's the freedom president if you gotta defend the [REDACTED] (Though ideally find someone who isn't a [REDACTED] to get so defensive about) I didn't say it's not fair game, I said I'm not the one who brought it up. I have no issue with psqdi's comments, like I've said I don't think they're a good answer to why the movie did poorly, but there's a difference between "sentiment against america is impacting this movie" and accusing my government of being a regime or [redacted]. I dunno, I'd go from the multiple comments in which he states it's accurate and proceeds to reaffirm his belief that it's some sort of proto-dictatorship that it's not just a flippant joke. And I only respond to this stuff about half the time people start doing it- whether I do or not, once somebody brings it up certain other people escalate it regardless, if I remember right last time I ignored "regime" type comments it escalated for well over a page into accusations of [redacted] or other crimes against multiple heads of state. As for russia and china, it's good you bring that up because if I remember right the last time russia was brought up the mods said we shouldn't be discussing politics, but even aside from that you have to admit those three aren't exactly the same, no? Like just the fact that I'm able to see what brickbob accuses my government of would imply that it's maybe not quite the same level as china, right? And once again, I'm still not sure why we're all pretending to be confused as to why someone wouldn't like going onto a lego forum and seeing people call their democratically elected government a dictatorship or their head of state a [redacted] or whatever. This isn't a generalized social media platform, this is a lego forum. There's no reason for that to be here. Again, I'll extend the same thing I did to brickbob, this is a lego forum and the mods don't seem to be monitoring it, let's let it go. I still think the march wave is probably all the system sets we get in 2026, but @CloneCommando99's mech theory does hold a bit of water with the point about only two of the gimmick mech sets this year. Not sure what the next D2C would be, maybe a UCS pattmobile. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 30 Posted October 30 Agreed, let’s burry this topic before the mods step in, I forgot this is the actual DC thread and not the lawless Aslume It’s too early to tell, but I‘d be very surprised if we got any DC sets next year beyond the ones in March. 4-5 a year was the norm lately, and the March wave already consists of 4. 17 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said: Not sure what the next D2C would be, maybe a UCS pattmobile. Wouldn‘t they wait until 2027 for that tho? Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted October 30 Posted October 30 41 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said: I still think the march wave is probably all the system sets we get in 2026, but @CloneCommando99's mech theory does hold a bit of water with the point about only two of the gimmick mech sets this year. Not sure what the next D2C would be, maybe a UCS pattmobile. Yay. Ultimate Absolute Collector’s Series Batmobile? 22 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: Good point, you could be right. Though I really don't think lego's looking at the TV-MA show or the cartoon (which I presume is also Adult Swim like MAWS was?) It's possible there's a Doom mech but I assume we'll just be getting movie doom, and I don't think we've ever had an MCU mech. (Even if one of the iron man mechs includes a suit clearly meant to represent mk42) Touché. But a inmate can jonkle. Mark my words, Doom will get a mech set before any F4 member. If only to spite Richards!!! The current mech wishlist is: Green Lantern (as many as it takes to get the 4 Corpsmen) Doctor Doom Wonder Woman Steel Onslaught Daredevil GI Robot Batman (Hell Bat) Braniac Black Manta Honourable mentions: Iron Lad (6160), Superior Spider-man, Agent Venom, Blue Beetle, Flash, Crossbones, Baron Zemo, Booster Gold, Sinestro, Atrocitus and Superboy Prime Deadpool unfortunately would just not happen in any way. Quote
Dolor Posted October 30 Posted October 30 Could there be a new Batcave 2026? For example based on that upcoming LEGO Batman videogame... Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 30 Posted October 30 16 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said: The current mech wishlist is: Green Lantern (as many as it takes to get the 4 Corpsmen) Doctor Doom Wonder Woman Steel Onslaught Daredevil GI Robot Batman (Hell Bat) Braniac Black Manta I know it’s a wishlist, but someone‘s being very optimistic here We’ll get a regular TIE Avenger, a UCS TIE Avenger, a polybag, a gingerbread version, and a venomised one before nine of these mechs. We‘re all in the Aslume for a reason. The only one that stands somewhat of a chance is Doom. He‘ll definitely get a big marketing push next year, and if he becomes even remotely as popular as Thanos, he could earn his mech in 2027 Quote
Dolor Posted October 30 Posted October 30 The latest Lego brochure has 2 pages of DC and 8 pages of Marvel. I think LEGO does not like Batman so much BUT then it is ok to make Batman LEGO game. Arkham modular is about 2/5 set. Not even many play features. 20-anniversary sets, 3 Batmobiles and 1 logo. Why is this reality? 8 pages of Marvel sets. and about 1-2 pages Marvel 4+ sets. CMF-series about Spider-Man animation. Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted October 30 Posted October 30 10 minutes ago, Dolor said: The latest Lego brochure has 2 pages of DC and 8 pages of Marvel. I think LEGO does not like Batman so much BUT then it is ok to make Batman LEGO game. Arkham modular is about 2/5 set. Not even many play features. 20-anniversary sets, 3 Batmobiles and 1 logo. Why is this reality? 8 pages of Marvel sets. and about 1-2 pages Marvel 4+ sets. CMF-series about Spider-Man animation. LEGO likes Batman, believe me, Marvel is made more than Batman because there's more movies to adapt and designers said they primarily don't touch DC due to the lack of toyetic, successful franchises. Superman might get there with the sequel, every Batman movie gets a couple sets but the only ones overflowing with sets are the Schumacher one's they've just got brave enough to touch Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 31 Posted October 31 3 minutes ago, Renny The Spaceman said: LEGO likes Batman LIES. We all know John L. Ego was forced at gunpoint to sign a shady DC licensing deal with WB and has since tried to get out of the contract by making products he passionately hates. And it‘s not working. Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted October 31 Posted October 31 6 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said: LIES. We all know John L. Ego was forced at gunpoint to sign a shady DC licensing deal with WB and has since tried to get out of the contract by making products he passionately hates. And it‘s not working. TRUE, John is trying to sabotage the theme for years, rumours are by 2030 the Batmen will have helmet holes Quote
psqidexslizer Posted October 31 Posted October 31 2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: They aren't mutually exclusive, but we keep shifting what the argument is, and it stands to reason that if both factors were at play, the american movies with superman/especially the one with a captain america would be the ones at the bottom of the barrel, not F4. As for this, I've already said I'm sure it could have had some minor bit in areas such as canada or parts of europe, but I think blaming it's failure internationally on that is a pretty big cop-out, especially since China, which to my knowledge is the only one actually organizing boycotts of these movies, has rates that aren't all that inconsistent with how it's been going for superhero films there. (which goes for the third point as well, only one of the three MCU movies released this year did any more abysmally in china than you'd expect, and it was the one least connected to the US). And once again, the fact that CA4 did just fine internationally (I mean, in terms of %international vs %domestic.) would imply that that isn't the issue. You would assume however tied to america Superman is, Captain America would be more tied to it. Paradoxically, Captain America isn’t as strongly associated with America as Superman is, despite America literally being in his name. The depiction of Captain America most people are familiar with is the MCU. He spent two and a half movies working with the US military before turning his back on them. He then spent a whole movie actively fighting against them and one being on the run. Those choices helped break him away from being an “American” hero and transformed him into a hero who just happens to be American. Compare that to Superman who spent decades preaching the “American way”, whose most iconic images all have him standing in front of an American flag, who has spent significant time in comics buddying up with Ronald Reagan and Bush, who in one of DC’s most iconic stories (The Dark Knight Returns) serves as a lapdog for the US government, and who in his last solo outing (MoS) worked side by side with the American military which basically loaned them the use of their equipment for chump change. And what has been done to change that depiction? Several years back he dropped the “American way” part of his tagline? That wasn’t enough to undo decades of making him a pro-American icon. Nothing has been, up to this point. As far as your point about superhero films doing about the same as they’ve been doing in China, back in 2023 GotG3 made $86M, Aquaman 2 made $49M, Antman 3 made $49M, and The Flash made $26M (Black Panther 2 flopped, sure, but the first one only made as much as Antman in China, and I don’t think I need to spell out why that happened). In 2024 Deadpool and Wolverine made $60M, Venom 3 made $90M, and even a dud like Joker 2 made $7.6M. Thunderbolts was the big hit of superhero films in China this year with $16M. Superman made only $1.3M more than Joker 2. In what way is this not a massive drop off? As for Fantastic Four being a bigger flop than Superman in China and internationally, the film was just not as well received as Superman in general. But, as a percentage of box office, FF had a higher percentage of its gross from international sales (and frankly, the international gross wasn’t that far behind Superman’s). 2 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Yay. Ultimate Absolute Collector’s Series Batmobile? Touché. But a inmate can jonkle. Mark my words, Doom will get a mech set before any F4 member. If only to spite Richards!!! The current mech wishlist is: Green Lantern (as many as it takes to get the 4 Corpsmen) Doctor Doom Wonder Woman Steel Onslaught Daredevil GI Robot Batman (Hell Bat) Braniac Black Manta Honourable mentions: Iron Lad (6160), Superior Spider-man, Agent Venom, Blue Beetle, Flash, Crossbones, Baron Zemo, Booster Gold, Sinestro, Atrocitus and Superboy Prime Deadpool unfortunately would just not happen in any way. I’m 90% certain if there is a third mech it’s going to Dr Doom. The other 10% is delusional and thinks it could go to Supergirl. 1 hour ago, Dolor said: Could there be a new Batcave 2026? For example based on that upcoming LEGO Batman videogame... Batcave? Sorry, I’m not familiar with that style of Batmobile. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted October 31 Posted October 31 2 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Agreed, let’s burry this topic before the mods step in, I forgot this is the actual DC thread and not the lawless Aslume It’s too early to tell, but I‘d be very surprised if we got any DC sets next year beyond the ones in March. 4-5 a year was the norm lately, and the March wave already consists of 4. Wouldn‘t they wait until 2027 for that tho? . There's no handshake emote. I don't know why we're invisibly shaking our other hands with the air. I think some sort of D2Cmobile later in the year isn't impossible- I think we've had a DC D2C every year since 2019- but yeah, I guess the Pattmobile would make more sense for 2027. (though by that same metric, so would the system one, although assumably they were planning for the game and movie to release around the same time and therefore in a bit of a pickle when it got delayed so much) I don't really know what else they would even do, though. Maybe the BVS mobile, but that's a stretch, same with the other TDK trilogy vehicles. MAYBE the TDK batcycle? 2 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Ultimate Absolute Collector’s Series Batmobile? Deadpool unfortunately would just not happen in any way. I mean, honestly, I wouldn't say it's impossible we get some sort of absolute batman recognition- they've done a figure for the marvel version of Absolute- so, you never know. Obviously probably wouldn't start out with a UCS set, but still. 18+, $250 modular deadpool mech. It's the same size as a normal mech, but deadpool makes a joke about the set being overpriced on the box, so it's ok. 1 hour ago, Renny The Spaceman said: by 2030 the Batmen will have helmet holes Just by typing this, you've singlehandedly killed four non-batman DC sets that were in the works so lego can put the type 5 cowl into production (the dual-molding was too expensive so it'll just be the type 4 cowl with holes in the eyes- helmet holes, if you will- where the white plastic was) Actually, ironically, for how movie-focused they've been, that would be a good cowl mold to invest in... which means we're not getting it. Foiled again, John L. Ego really thought of everything. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 31 Posted October 31 Still don‘t know what to think of the Absolute situation. Design-wise at least, as I don‘t read the comics Absolute Batman for instance has grown on me to the point I wouldn‘t mind a minifig and characters like Bane and Croc look cool (while being on steroids that are themselves on steroids) but what on EARTH is Absolute Jonkler!?! Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted October 31 Posted October 31 10 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: Just by typing this, you've singlehandedly killed four non-batman DC sets that were in the works so lego can put the type 5 cowl into production (the dual-molding was too expensive so it'll just be the type 4 cowl with holes in the eyes- helmet holes, if you will- where the white plastic was) Actually, ironically, for how movie-focused they've been, that would be a good cowl mold to invest in... which means we're not getting it. Foiled again, John L. Ego really thought of everything. To punish all of us here for not taking the scourge of helmet holes seriously the cowl will have moulded eyes where they should be in lore and the eye holes slightly above Quote
psqidexslizer Posted October 31 Posted October 31 1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Still don‘t know what to think of the Absolute situation. Design-wise at least, as I don‘t read the comics Absolute Batman for instance has grown on me to the point I wouldn‘t mind a minifig and characters like Bane and Croc look cool (while being on steroids that are themselves on steroids) but what on EARTH is Absolute Jonkler!?! Haven’t read anything Absolute outside of Flash (gave up on that a while back) and the first issue of Superman. I can’t say this is a universe that interests me. But I also feel like, in terms of comics, there’s just overall less stuff I’m interested in at the moment. 2 minutes ago, Renny The Spaceman said: To punish all of us here for not taking the scourge of helmet holes seriously the cowl will have moulded eyes where they should be in lore and the eye holes slightly above Lego should just use the Black Panther ears for Batman going forward. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 31 Posted October 31 31 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said: Lego should just use the Black Panther ears for Batman going forward. Our punishment must be more severe. Actually, they should do that! We can finally have a Man minifig then!! Quote
Dolor Posted October 31 Posted October 31 (edited) Have you noticed that in LEGO OFFICIAL WEBSITE there are: - Batman - DC - Marvel And we get Batman and Marvel sets every year BUT no DC sets. So for my eyes we have 3 different themes there. In the past 5-6 years. Only 2 DC sets... 2025 Superman Mech vs. Lex Luthor 2020 Wonder Woman vs. Cheetah Edited October 31 by Dolor Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted October 31 Posted October 31 2 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Still don‘t know what to think of the Absolute situation. Design-wise at least, as I don‘t read the comics Absolute Batman for instance has grown on me to the point I wouldn‘t mind a minifig and characters like Bane and Croc look cool (while being on steroids that are themselves on steroids) but what on EARTH is Absolute Jonkler!?! It's a neat elseworld but I do find it funny that the point was supposed to be a grounded batman who isn't rich with sci-fi level tech, and yet he's performing feats that would make mainline batman look like a normal human. 1 hour ago, Renny The Spaceman said: To punish all of us here for not taking the scourge of helmet holes seriously the cowl will have moulded eyes where they should be in lore and the eye holes slightly above The ancient Tibeten Monk "Double the number of eyes you have" technique, yes, I've heard of it. 1 hour ago, psqidexslizer said: Haven’t read anything Absolute outside of Flash (gave up on that a while back) and the first issue of Superman. I can’t say this is a universe that interests me. Lego should just use the Black Panther ears for Batman going forward. Yeah, I couldn't get into it. I get the idea, it's a good jumping-on point and a neat elseworld, but at the end of the day it changes too many things that I'd view central to the characters for me to enjoy it long-term. There are some versions where this would actually work for the cowl. I honestly don't think it'd be any less accurate than the others they've used for Battinson 32 minutes ago, Dolor said: And we get Batman and Marvel sets every year BUT no DC sets. He's figured it out. Welcome to the Aslume. The DC theme isn't real, it's just Batman. (Who luckily, does not fly like a bee) Quote
psqidexslizer Posted October 31 Posted October 31 40 minutes ago, Dolor said: Have you noticed that in LEGO OFFICIAL WEBSITE there are: - Batman - DC - Marvel And we get Batman and Marvel sets every year BUT no DC sets. So for my eyes we have 3 different themes there. In the past 5-6 years. Only 2 DC sets... 2025 Superman Mech vs. Lex Luthor 2020 Wonder Woman vs. Cheetah Sherlock Holmes over here. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 31 Posted October 31 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said: (Who luckily, does not fly like a bee) He does glide like a flying squirrel though (actual misnomer), which is worse than flying like a bee. To the gallows with him. Edited October 31 by BrickBob Studpants Quote
psqidexslizer Posted October 31 Posted October 31 6 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said: Yeah, I couldn't get into it. I get the idea, it's a good jumping-on point and a neat elseworld, but at the end of the day it changes too many things that I'd view central to the characters for me to enjoy it long-term. I’m also a stickler for canon, but I’m open to alternate takes like Superman: Red Son or The Dark Knight Returns. But they’re got to be interesting. I can’t speak for the rest, but Absolute Flash was just boring. It was mostly just “hey, look at this character you know. Now they’re a woman, or a government scientist, or they have a mustache. Woah, what kinda of a crazy effeed up world is this?” Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted October 31 Posted October 31 1 hour ago, Dolor said: Have you noticed that in LEGO OFFICIAL WEBSITE there are: - Batman - DC - Marvel And we get Batman and Marvel sets every year BUT no DC sets. So for my eyes we have 3 different themes there. In the past 5-6 years. Only 2 DC sets... 2025 Superman Mech vs. Lex Luthor 2020 Wonder Woman vs. Cheetah So our next one will be in 2030 Quote
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