BatDeanj Posted January 21 Posted January 21 (edited) I wasn't expecting anything peacemaker tie in related, was just to show how bizarre the decisions are. No Superman movie tie in is so dumb i know the recent movie tie in for DCEU didn't work out well but not giving the new reboot even 1 is baffling. I mean if they are going to make batman sets why not have them connected to bleed figures into Arkham as its still anyone's guess what its based off. If this years wave was a BTAS Batcave and a batboat we can easily say the Asylum is BTAS but they chose basically 3 Batmobiles from 3 different versions of the character. I can see them using the new two face head and recoloured hair and Mr freeze but other than that I don't see them bleeding anything from this year which is mad with 3 batman sets. Edited January 21 by BatDeanj Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted January 21 Posted January 21 10 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said: The lack of anything Peacemaker isn’t surprising. Nor, I guess, is how badly Superman is getting snubbed here. But it is certainly disappointing because there really is no good reason for it. Not when Fantastic Four is still getting a set despite having possibly the worst track record of any live-action superhero series (even Howard the Duck found some redemption in his GotG cameos). TBF the Fantastic Four's past bombs don't effect LEGO whereas they bet hard on the early DCEU and paid the price. They never tried the FF before. 1 hour ago, THELEGOBATMAN said: Not sure, but all today's leaks are real. Insane, a hundred quid for a Batmobile from the least popular version of the franchise. I bet you it'll only have three figures and there's a non zero chance one's a reused Alfred Quote
psqidexslizer Posted January 21 Posted January 21 14 minutes ago, BatDeanj said: I wasn't expecting anything peacemaker tie in related, was just to show how bizarre the decisions are. No Superman movie tie in is so dumb i know the recent movie tie in for DCEU didn't work out well but not giving the new reboot even 1 is baffling. I mean if they are going to make batman sets why not have them connected to bleed figures into Arkham as its still anyone's guess what its based off. If this years wave was a BTAS Batcave and a batboat we can easily say the Asylum is BTAS but they chose basically 3 Batmobiles from 3 different versions of the character. I can see them using the new two face head and recoloured hair and Mr freeze but other than that I don't see them bleeding anything from this year which is mad with 3 batman sets. I think it’s safe to say, given the lack of really anyone they can reuse in Arkham, that the 10+ minifigures just means 10 minifigures. Which is disappointing regardless of what the set is based on, because there’s basically zero chance of us actually getting any new characters. Quote
BatDeanj Posted January 21 Posted January 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, psqidexslizer said: I think it’s safe to say, given the lack of really anyone they can reuse in Arkham, that the 10+ minifigures just means 10 minifigures. Which is disappointing regardless of what the set is based on, because there’s basically zero chance of us actually getting any new characters. I think you are right, is do think its just 10 minifigs with 2 being batman and Joker. I think we will get new characters such as Mad Hatter but I think there will only be 1. With the available characters (outside of batman and joker) we could get; Mr Freeze, Two Face. Harley. Robin?? - (if hes in the batmobile set in the summer??) So we need 4/5 new characters which is possible as the x-mansion did it. Mad Hatter Ivy Harleen Qunzel Dr Crane/Scarecrow Guard/s - purist but new torso I think Catwoman will Stay exclusive and she not insane anyway, and I cant see them using that Batgirl. If it is over 10 figures they will be Guards I think this is the most realistic one but we shall see. Edited January 21 by BatDeanj Quote
THELEGOBATMAN Posted January 21 Posted January 21 I don't think the problem with the Batmobile is the price itself—it's not a regular system-scale Batmobile, obviously, and the PPP ratio is fairly good too—900+ pieces for 100€. The problem is, who is this set even made for? Schumacher's Batman movies aren't particularly popular or liked to begin with, but I assume a ~40€ set would sell well—both with kids (thanks to the villains) and adult collectors. But a 100€ oversized collectors' edition one, with probably a minimal character roster? I don't see this selling well at all. Quote
Legoman123 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 Lego know how long we have wanted a $400/$500 Arkham Asylum and making it based off of a movie wouldn’t make any sense. Remember it says 10+ figs so that could mean 10 or we could see more. I for one hope we get Black Mask and Ventriloquist & Scarface, along with some villains we have seen in the past but redone, like a real good riddler and scarecrow. If you look at how many minifigures came in the 2012 Arkham Asylum then you’ll see that that we got 8 and this set is going to be triple the size so I’d expect more, or alternatively they give us sets to go along with it over the next year or so. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted January 21 Posted January 21 10 hours ago, Coryo said: Certainly a bold choice to test out their most ridiculous Batmobile pricing on a set based on one of the least popular Batman adaptations, watch them omit Robin again lmao It'll just be Batman and, somehow, Joker. 2 hours ago, psqidexslizer said: $100, 900 pieces for a a Batmobile? Either there’s more to this set than just a Batmobile or Lego hates DC more than we realized. They heard we wanted more than just batmobiles so it's a batmobile and ~400 DBG tiles and plates to build a road with. 30 minutes ago, Renny The Spaceman said: TBF the Fantastic Four's past bombs don't effect LEGO whereas they bet hard on the early DCEU and paid the price. They never tried the FF before. Sure they never tried the FF, but if they know they historically don't do well, there is some logic as to why they would be cautious about a set for another attempt. 17 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said: I think it’s safe to say, given the lack of really anyone they can reuse in Arkham, that the 10+ minifigures just means 10 minifigures. Which is disappointing regardless of what the set is based on, because there’s basically zero chance of us actually getting any new characters. I promise you they will find a way to re-use at least two characters. 7 minutes ago, Legoman123 said: Lego know how long we have wanted a $400/$500 Arkham Asylum and making it based off of a movie wouldn’t make any sense. Remember it says 10+ figs so that could mean 10 or we could see more. I for one hope we get Black Mask and Ventriloquist & Scarface, along with some villains we have seen in the past but redone, like a real good riddler and scarecrow. If you look at how many minifigures came in the 2012 Arkham Asylum then you’ll see that that we got 8 and this set is going to be triple the size so I’d expect more, or alternatively they give us sets to go along with it over the next year or so. True, true, but counterpoint- the last 5 years of the theme. Quote
BatDeanj Posted January 21 Posted January 21 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Legoman123 said: Lego know how long we have wanted a $400/$500 Arkham Asylum and making it based off of a movie wouldn’t make any sense. Remember it says 10+ figs so that could mean 10 or we could see more. I for one hope we get Black Mask and Ventriloquist & Scarface, along with some villains we have seen in the past but redone, like a real good riddler and scarecrow. If you look at how many minifigures came in the 2012 Arkham Asylum then you’ll see that that we got 8 and this set is going to be triple the size so I’d expect more, or alternatively they give us sets to go along with it over the next year or so. The 2012 was able to bleed robin, ivy, guard, joker and batman(minus the wings) given what figures we can bleed I think we should expect around 10 and any more are guards or purists like staff Edited January 21 by BatDeanj Quote
THELEGOBATMAN Posted January 21 Posted January 21 Honestly, at this point I barely have any expectations for the Arkham Asylum. I do hope it turns out amazing though... Quote
psqidexslizer Posted January 21 Posted January 21 2 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said: TBF the Fantastic Four's past bombs don't effect LEGO whereas they bet hard on the early DCEU and paid the price. They never tried the FF before. I don’t think it helps your case that Fantastic Four is so risky as a brand that Lego didn’t attempt them for the first 13 years of this theme. 2 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said: I don't think the problem with the Batmobile is the price itself—it's not a regular system-scale Batmobile, obviously, and the PPP ratio is fairly good too—900+ pieces for 100€. The problem is, who is this set even made for? Schumacher's Batman movies aren't particularly popular or liked to begin with, but I assume a ~40€ set would sell well—both with kids (thanks to the villains) and adult collectors. But a 100€ oversized collectors' edition one, with probably a minimal character roster? I don't see this selling well at all. As a collector of miniscale Batmobiles who considers Batman Forever a guilty pleasure and desperately wants a Jim Carrey Riddler, I am the target audience. And I intend to pick it up as soon as the heavy discounts kick in. Quote
BatDeanj Posted January 21 Posted January 21 Its the set I've been wanting for years and probably the only one I will be getting for a while. I just hope we get some great architecture that dark and gothic and can set up a breakout scene for display. I would LOVE it too be based on the Arkham games, but I think that has a small chance but I'm not dismissing it yet. I hope its not based on the movies as i cant see that working but i think the most likey is BTAS. I think i would prefer comics but BTAS is fine if it dark enough. Quote
NovaBricks Posted January 21 Posted January 21 A real Arkham is my white whale. I can't express how much I need this one to be good. I suspect it'll be BTAS based which while not ideal, is at least my second choice. I just can't see it being anything other than that or comic based. Granted, never in a million years would I have guessed a $400 batcave would be based on Batman Returns. Quote
doclord Posted January 21 Posted January 21 The Arkham set will likely be Lego Batman themed which I think won't bode well for sales. Quote
THELEGOBATMAN Posted January 21 Posted January 21 I wonder which suit they'll use for Kilmer's Batman—the regular or the Sonar one. Getting the Bat-Nipple suit would be the funniest possible outcome methinks. Quote
NovaBricks Posted January 21 Posted January 21 6 hours ago, Lionbear8 said: was not expecting a large Batmobile, but it does make sense considering Forever is 30 years since release. just hope we get a good selection of minifgs. surley we get another DC set this year, besides the Arkham Asylum releasing in September. really need the Gunn universe to start off strong for any chance of more sets next year! Where did you see September? Quote
doclord Posted January 21 Posted January 21 19 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said: I wonder which suit they'll use for Kilmer's Batman—the regular or the Sonar one. Getting the Bat-Nipple suit would be the funniest possible outcome methinks. They will definitely save batnips for the inevitable Batman and Robin batmobile set. Quote
icm Posted January 21 Posted January 21 If such a set is inevitable, it'll be a crime if it doesn't have a 1x2 tile for the Bat-Credit Card. Quote
doclord Posted January 21 Posted January 21 (edited) 5 minutes ago, icm said: If such a set is inevitable, it'll be a crime if it doesn't have a 1x2 tile for the Bat-Credit Card. A bat... credit card?! For the price I hope that Two-Face is included and has leg printing, but I won't hold my breath. Edited January 21 by doclord Quote
RobbieHxC Posted January 21 Posted January 21 3 hours ago, psqidexslizer said: Not when Fantastic Four is still getting a set despite having possibly the worst track record of any live-action superhero series (even Howard the Duck found some redemption in his GotG cameos). Fantastic Four is nowhere near the bottom of unpopular live action superhero franchises - there's Eternals, a number of Disney+ shows, and quite a few DC misses well below them. The Fantastic Four are still a household name, and are being pushed heavily by Marvel across their verticals right now. To compare them to Howard the Duck is crazy! No-one I know in real life could tell you who Howard the Duck is, never mind that he had cameos in the Guardians of the Galaxy trilogy. Quote
psqidexslizer Posted January 21 Posted January 21 It sounds like Marvel is getting a series of miniscale modular buildings for Spider-Man that connect to the deli. It’s a shame we’re not getting something similar for Batman. Even just Gotham city sets with villain lairs and villains attacking various stores would be great. 27 minutes ago, RobbieHxC said: Fantastic Four is nowhere near the bottom of unpopular live action superhero franchises - there's Eternals, a number of Disney+ shows, and quite a few DC misses well below them. The Fantastic Four are still a household name, and are being pushed heavily by Marvel across their verticals right now. To compare them to Howard the Duck is crazy! No-one I know in real life could tell you who Howard the Duck is, never mind that he had cameos in the Guardians of the Galaxy trilogy. Fantastic Four really aren’t a household name. I doubt anyone who isn’t more than a casual superhero fan knows them at this point. They’ve had nearly zero media exposure for the past few decades, aside from three bad movies. Even Green Lantern who is still widely known for that bad 2011 movie had his appearances in JLU. Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted January 21 Posted January 21 2 hours ago, psqidexslizer said: I don’t think it helps your case that Fantastic Four is so risky as a brand that Lego didn’t attempt them for the first 13 years of this theme Well no, that's not the reason at all, it's well known that Disney heavily limited any merch for the Fox owned franchises, until now there was never a time LEGO had the Marvel licence where they had any cultural relevance. Since Disney has bought FF they've never had a reason too, now they're getting a bog push so this makes sense to trial out a team LEGO and most toy companies haven't done anything significant with. Box office of the past films doesn't really matter here, the question is more how have previous MCU sets sold, LEGO has decided there's enough of a push for this film for it to be worth making. Keep in mind I say this all as someone who doesn't care for the Fantastic Four or the MCU and do care for DC. There's been no significant merch push for the Fantastic Four since the 2000s, to my knowledge while the second film underperformed there was no massive loss nor were there any infamously unsellable toy lines. For almost a decade straight the DCEU has underperformed specifically with Superman, toy companies bet big on BVS and Justice League and lost out hard there, not only is that data more recent, not only did that film series do a lot worse but very importantly LEGO had skin in that game, they tried for 5 years to do tie in sets for those films and lost hard. Meanwhile the Fantastic Four haven't been tested at all as is attached to a franchise that makes them a lot of money and even then it's getting 1 set, I think is new MCU films' sets didn't flop as hard as they do when Spider-Man not involved it'd at least get a couple other sets to make a small wave but even still this film is the kid friendly MCU film to be pushed the hardest in a while, that makes sense to try. I'd rather Superman have gotten that set, it'll probably be the better movie but I get why executives didn't, it's kinda obvious how different the situation is. Quote
Battlinpanther Posted January 21 Posted January 21 Even with the post-Endgame struggles, the MCU had a solid decade of success that has clearly given them leeway with merchandisers. DC doesn’t get that benefit of the doubt because the DCU struggled right out the gate and basically limped on until being mercifully put out of its misery. I HATE that we’re not getting stuff for the new Superman movie, especially after that amazing trailer, but history has shown that Marvel is usually a more reliable bet than DC, so I can see why the Fantastic Four are still getting a set. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted January 21 Posted January 21 (edited) Are we sure the Batman Forever set is just the Batmobile now, rather than a Batcave with a Batmobile? I mean, I absolutely believe they would release a $100 Batmobile, but there might be something lost in translation Edited January 21 by BrickBob Studpants Quote
THELEGOBATMAN Posted January 21 Posted January 21 7 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Are we sure the Batman Forever set is just the Batmobile now, rather than a Batcave with a Batmobile? I mean, I absolutely believe they would release a $100 Batmobile, but there might be something lost in translation I'm pretty sure it's just the Batmobile. According to one of the leakers, it was always a Batmobile, but they assumed it to be a Batcave due to its price point. Quote
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