DC Superheroes 2025 - Rumors & Discussion

[calebcold3]

6 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I mean, it's definitely not off to the strongest start. I know there's varying arguments as to how much Superman actually turned out in terms of profit, but the fact that it's at the very least as close as it was is proof enough that it wasn't the hit they needed, and it's doing worse on streaming than Black Adam did. Peacemaker S2 sounds to have been pretty divisive, especially the ending, and did NOT do well in terms of viewership, Warner Bros is for sale, and Gunn himself has implied that at the very least, HIS future with the DCU isn't a sure thing anymore. I don't think it's an unreasonable conclusion to draw that things aren't going so well.

Those are good points. I just felt it's too soon to say it's falling apart. I know it's a low bar, but it is NOT the Sony Universe of Marvel Characters level of falling apart (yet). I think Superman did good enough at best to have enough goodwill from audiences to finish Chapter One (Superman, Supergirl, Clayface, Man Of Tomorrow, Wonder Woman, Brave and the Bold, a Potential World's Finest movie, and Justice League as the last movie of the chapter or DCU)

AKA, I think if Gunn were to leave DC someday, He'll at least have closure with the story he's trying to tell. 

Edited October 26 by calebcold3

[psqidexslizer]

13 hours ago, calebcold3 said:

Those are good points. I just felt it's too soon to say it's falling apart. I know it's a low bar, but it is NOT the Sony Universe of Marvel Characters level of falling apart (yet). I think Superman did good enough at best to have enough goodwill from audiences to finish Chapter One (Superman, Supergirl, Clayface, Man Of Tomorrow, Wonder Woman, Brave and the Bold, a Potential World's Finest movie, and Justice League as the last movie of the chapter or DCU)

AKA, I think if Gunn were to leave DC someday, He'll at least have closure with the story he's trying to tell. 

I think there’s an handful of issues no one is really addressing.

First, I think it’s clear that superhero fatigue is real. Superman might be the only CBM film from last year that turned a profit. Most MCU films have been flopping for the past few years. Maybe the DCU can turn that around, but I think it’s clear that the age of billion dollar superhero movies is over. And younger audiences especially seem less interested in superheroes and more in videogame movies.

The second is the rise of streaming. Less people are going to the movies and opting to stay at home. That’s been a trend for years and it’s only going to get worse as streaming becomes more popular. WB either needs to work on cutting costs and expect streaming releases to become the norm or they need to really convince people to pay the $10000 to go see a movie in theaters.

The third is the US has become much less popular globally. The highest grossing film of this year wasn’t a Hollywood release. It was a Chinese release that made the majority of its money from Chinese box offices. Hollywood movies, which were very much reliant on that Chinese box office, have not been playing well there. Superman in particular, probably thanks to how closely he has been tied to American culture, did poorly worldwide.

The DCU may end up being a success, but it clearly has an uphill battle. I think next year will show if properties outside of Spider-Man, Batman, and maybe Superman can actually survive in this new environment (and, more importantly, how WB reacts when they fail) and Man of Tomorrow will be the real test if Superman made the impact with audiences that WB needs to carry the franchise.

I think Lego sees the writing on the wall more clearly than the rest of us. That’s why they’ve cut down everything not Batman, Spider-Man, and Infinity Saga, as well as reduced the number of big sets to one per year between Marvel and DC. I think they know at this point that the golden era of superhero movies is over. 

[CloneCommando99]

2 hours ago, psqidexslizer said:

I think next year will show if properties outside of Spider-Man, Batman, and maybe Superman can actually survive in this new environment (and, more importantly, how WB reacts when they fail) and Man of Tomorrow will be the real test if Superman made the impact with audiences that WB needs to carry the franchise.

I mean. Supergirl is a pretty iconic character so there’s that going for the movie. She’s definitely more iconic than the Thunderbolts.

 

 

But yes. MoT will be the turning point of Superhero movies going forward. I don’t think Doomsday is going to do that well, and even if it does, it won’t have the screen time to make people care about newer characters or it’s going to focus on characters who aren’t coming back (Fox X-Men.) Spider-Man is a guaranteed success anyway.

 

So yeah. Man of Tomorrow might end up being the most culturally important Superhero movie of the decade. 

[psqidexslizer]

19 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

I mean. Supergirl is a pretty iconic character so there’s that going for the movie. She’s definitely more iconic than the Thunderbolts.

But yes. MoT will be the turning point of Superhero movies going forward. I don’t think Doomsday is going to do that well, and even if it does, it won’t have the screen time to make people care about newer characters or it’s going to focus on characters who aren’t coming back (Fox X-Men.) Spider-Man is a guaranteed success anyway.

So yeah. Man of Tomorrow might end up being the most culturally important Superhero movie of the decade. 

Supergirl has her fans, but she’s not even debatable on the same level as Batman and Spiderman, or even Wonder Woman, Superman, Deadpool, Wolverine, Hulk, and Iron Man.

I also completely agree on Doomsday. I could be wrong, but I’d be surprised if it even touched the first Avengers in terms of box office.

[calebcold3]

49 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said:

I also completely agree on Doomsday. I could be wrong, but I’d be surprised if it even touched the first Avengers in terms of box office.

I think Doomsday will make as much as Avengers 1 Worldwide, but just BARELY. Only because of Doomsday is releasing at around Christmas time, and movies released around Christmas have better legs than they would otherwise. 

If Doomsday released in the month of May, then I would think it would make only Age Of Ultron Numbers at the box office. 

1 hour ago, CloneCommando99 said:

I mean. Supergirl is a pretty iconic character so there’s that going for the movie. She’s definitely more iconic than the Thunderbolts.

But yes. MoT will be the turning point of Superhero movies going forward. I don’t think Doomsday is going to do that well, and even if it does, it won’t have the screen time to make people care about newer characters or it’s going to focus on characters who aren’t coming back (Fox X-Men.) Spider-Man is a guaranteed success anyway.

I think Supergirl will make more than Thunderbolts. I see Supergirl making around Eternals Numbers (The cusp of $400M WW)

BND is making a Billion at worst, and Man Of Tomorrow, unless if it sucks megablocks, I think should make slightly more than Superman 2025.

Unless if he directs a potential World's Finest movie, I don't think Gunn is going to direct a DCU movie that makes more than GOTG 2/3 (His Highest Grossing CBMs).

Edited October 27 by calebcold3

[Mandalorianknight]

4 hours ago, psqidexslizer said:

I think there’s an handful of issues no one is really addressing.

First, I think it’s clear that superhero fatigue is real. Superman might be the only CBM film from last year that turned a profit. Most MCU films have been flopping for the past few years. Maybe the DCU can turn that around, but I think it’s clear that the age of billion dollar superhero movies is over. And younger audiences especially seem less interested in superheroes and more in videogame movies.

The second is the rise of streaming. Less people are going to the movies and opting to stay at home. That’s been a trend for years and it’s only going to get worse as streaming becomes more popular. WB either needs to work on cutting costs and expect streaming releases to become the norm or they need to really convince people to pay the $10000 to go see a movie in theaters.

The third is the US has become much less popular globally. The highest grossing film of this year wasn’t a Hollywood release. It was a Chinese release that made the majority of its money from Chinese box offices. Hollywood movies, which were very much reliant on that Chinese box office, have not been playing well there. Superman in particular, probably thanks to how closely he has been tied to American culture, did poorly worldwide.

The DCU may end up being a success, but it clearly has an uphill battle. I think next year will show if properties outside of Spider-Man, Batman, and maybe Superman can actually survive in this new environment (and, more importantly, how WB reacts when they fail) and Man of Tomorrow will be the real test if Superman made the impact with audiences that WB needs to carry the franchise.

I think Lego sees the writing on the wall more clearly than the rest of us. That’s why they’ve cut down everything not Batman, Spider-Man, and Infinity Saga, as well as reduced the number of big sets to one per year between Marvel and DC. I think they know at this point that the golden era of superhero movies is over. 

I think these are important issues, but this may be overly pessimistic for the state of superhero movies (but not overly pessimistic for the DCU's chances):

While superhero fatigue is real, it's not unstoppable. Marvel's still had multiple billion-plus movies since endgame, one of them being R-rated, by relying on the characters people actually care about and have goodwill for. 

For the second one, again, while a trend, we've still seen plenty of theatrical releases that were big hits in the past few years. People still will show up if you give them a good movie.

As for this one, in respect to superman it's actually an odd phenomenon. Despite DC doing everything possible to remove superman's connections to america over the interim, down to changing his motto, Man of Steel actually made significantly more internationally than Superman 2025 despite superman 2025 having (before adjusting for inflation) a higher domestic haul. So I don't know that "superman is an american character" is why this movie didn't make much internationally. (Plus, characters like Spider-Man and Optimus Prime are also heavily tied to american culture in that way, and of course, so is Captain America. Superheroes in general are kind of an American-created cultural thing.)

18 hours ago, calebcold3 said:

Those are good points. I just felt it's too soon to say it's falling apart. I know it's a low bar, but it is NOT the Sony Universe of Marvel Characters level of falling apart (yet). I think Superman did good enough at best to have enough goodwill from audiences to finish Chapter One (Superman, Supergirl, Clayface, Man Of Tomorrow, Wonder Woman, Brave and the Bold, a Potential World's Finest movie, and Justice League as the last movie of the chapter or DCU)

AKA, I think if Gunn were to leave DC someday, He'll at least have closure with the story he's trying to tell. 

SuMC never got off the ground, lol. Something to do with (not having) spider-man, I think. But other universes doing worse doesn't change the fact that the DCU is in somewhat dire straits. If Supergirl flops (I doubt Clayface makes much but unless they gave it a disgusting budget it shouldn't need to. Being R-rated I doubt it'll factor in much to the wider success of the universe either way), I could see some of those later movies not happening.

2 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

I mean. Supergirl is a pretty iconic character so there’s that going for the movie. She’s definitely more iconic than the Thunderbolts.

I mean, sure, more people know her than the thunderbolts, but despite thunderbolts being the best superhero movie since infinity war I wouldn't exactly say it's a good metric for financial success. She's also not exactly one of the main DC heroes. When Superman himself is no sure hit, name-recognition is definitely not something you can rely on for supergirl.

Edited October 27 by Mandalorianknight

[Lionbear8]

well another 6 Lego Batman megazines have been confirmed for 2026. 

I wonder when leaks will start coming out for the summer sets. 

 

[Renny The Spaceman]

On 10/27/2025 at 6:24 PM, Mandalorianknight said:

As for this one, in respect to superman it's actually an odd phenomenon. Despite DC doing everything possible to remove superman's connections to america over the interim, down to changing his motto, Man of Steel actually made significantly more internationally than Superman 2025 despite superman 2025 having (before adjusting for inflation) a higher domestic haul. So I don't know that "superman is an american character" is why this movie didn't make much internationally. (Plus, characters like Spider-Man and Optimus Prime are also heavily tied to american culture in that way, and of course, so is Captain America. Superheroes in general are kind of an American-created cultural thing.)

I don't think Spider-Man and Optimus Prime are comparable (tbf the last Transformers film or two bombed though ig) because sure they have the colours, and you can make thematic arguments but Superman's catchphrase was ended with the phrase "the American way" for decades, he was the face of US wartime propaganda for years in the golden age of Superheroes and he has endlessly been pastiched as representing America(to the GA The Boys genuinely might be the single most popular Superhero thing, it's offensively Co-Worker core, and they have the blatant Superman stand in wear an american flag). Captain America is comparable but it's not like his film did gangbusters this year either. They can try divorce Superman from America but it'd take decades for that to stick. Dunno if that is the reason but amongst these peers he's absolutely unique 

[Mandalorianknight]

45 minutes ago, Lionbear8 said:

well another 6 Lego Batman megazines have been confirmed for 2026. 

I wonder when leaks will start coming out for the summer sets. 

Summer sets? You think we're getting multiple summer sets?

13 minutes ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

I don't think Spider-Man and Optimus Prime are comparable (tbf the last Transformers film or two bombed though ig) because sure they have the colours, and you can make thematic arguments but Superman's catchphrase was ended with the phrase "the American way" for decades, he was the face of US wartime propaganda for years in the golden age of Superheroes and he has endlessly been pastiched as representing America(to the GA The Boys genuinely might be the single most popular Superhero thing, it's offensively Co-Worker core, and they have the blatant Superman stand in wear an american flag). Captain America is comparable but it's not like his film did gangbusters this year either. They can try divorce Superman from America but it'd take decades for that to stick. Dunno if that is the reason but amongst these peers he's absolutely unique 

I would say they definitely are- aside from the motto, which DC killed off anyway. Superman's hardly the only hero to be heavily used in wartime stuff. And again, not only is captain america objectively tied to america a lot more strongly than superman, and his films do just fine internationally, but the last solo superman film did SIGNIFICANTLY better internationally than this one. "Superman didn't make as much money at the international box office bc non-americans think he represents 'merica and aren't interested" just can't be true if the Captain AMERICA movies do well internationally and the last solo superman movie- before DC went all-in on trying to remove any connections to his country- did better internationally than this new one. It's just not an excuse that holds any water.

[Renny The Spaceman]

10 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I would say they definitely are- aside from the motto, which DC killed off anyway. Superman's hardly the only hero to be heavily used in wartime stuff. And again, not only is captain america objectively tied to america a lot more strongly than superman, and his films do just fine internationally, but the last solo superman film did SIGNIFICANTLY better internationally than this one. "Superman didn't make as much money at the international box office bc non-americans think he represents 'merica and aren't interested" just can't be true if the Captain AMERICA movies do well internationally and the last solo superman movie- before DC went all-in on trying to remove any connections to his country- did better internationally than this new one. It's just not an excuse that holds any water.

I feel like you didn't listen to the argument at all. It's not even one I'm particularly married to but it's the idea that now because America isn't popular recently these films don't have international legs anymore, like the most recent Cap movie and Superman movie are why people believe this, the past ones were made before what people think is the issue so they're irrelevant. I know other superheroes did it too but notably not Spider-Man. Cap is on his level, didn't say differently. And you can't wipe out something defining to the character from public conscious in like 5 years, even if it's not said in books anymore it still sticks for ages. Imagine trying to detach the whole "Great Power" Schtick from Spider-Man, no matter how much Marvel tries to scrub it it'd take ages to stick if it ever did at all.

 

I think Superhero movies bombing has more to do how studios made very samey movies like four times a year for a decade so now no-one wants to get reinvested in the cycle as Marvel and DC both are trying to usher in new era's so what draws people is gonna be the stuff that's always been an interest of kids like Batman or Spider-Man or stuff that plays to 2000s nostalgia 

[BrickBob Studpants]

Hm, what could‘ve happened between MoS and Soup that negatively affected the perception of the US?  The movie has definitely been boycotted to some extent internationally. Cap and Soup both can’t be divorced from being representations of the US and both recent movies have suffered as a result. Personally, I‘m not gonna boycot Hollywood productions because I love movies too much, at least until they start using genAI or openly bow to the regime.

[Renny The Spaceman]

1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Hm, what could‘ve happened between MoS and Soup that negatively affected the perception of the US?  The movie has definitely been boycotted to some extent internationally. Cap and Soup both can’t be divorced from being representations of the US and both recent movies have suffered as a result. Personally, I‘m not gonna boycot Hollywood productions because I love movies too much, at least until they start using genAI or openly bow to the regime.

Clearly it was the Disney funded Doctor Who being crap, it's of course a misnomer because they were quite hands off but the majority of the fandom assumes it was the American money that almost killed the show. This is the only negative PR America has gotten since 2024

[psqidexslizer]

19 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Summer sets? You think we're getting multiple summer sets?

There’s still plenty of Batmobiles left to be made! 

[Mandalorianknight]

Oh, right, ok, I thought this was something about international box office over time or whatever, but ok, "regime". So this is just political digging. We're not even... we have a joke in the states, one that usually changes syntax every time the administration changes (the most recent three presidents have had "this is ____'s america", "____ derangement syndrome", and "Thanks, ____" respectively), relating to the idea that people are so wrapped up that everything has to be the fault of the president. "Superman didn't do well because I don't like the US president" fits along those lines, and I mean, come on, we're gonna pretend THAT was the issue with Brave New World? That sounds parodical even for that joke. Are we going to pretend the lens the average non-crazy person looks through when going to watch a movie is "could this movie in some way be tied to the current US president?"? Most people IN THE US, where, you know, the US administration tends to have more of an impact, don't do that, and even if someone WAS wrapped up so much in US politics that they would refuse to watch a movie because the character was tied to america, there's a fair chance they'd also have seen how vocal the director is about disliking the current administration. (I mean, this is the guy who wrote a whole season of a TV show about a nazi america universe and makes comments about how he thinks it's relevant.) 

You could MAYBE say that under a different administration the movie would have preformed just slightly better in canada and select western european countries, but the idea that Superman's box office issues are in any statistically significantly way the fault of the US president to even a FRACTION of the lowered performance between MoS and Superman 2025, is hilarious. And trying to tie in Brave New World just makes the whole argument laughable. Of all the problems that movie had...

But it's probably wise to get back to actual DC set discussion.

12 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said:

There’s still plenty of Batmobiles left to be made! 

Fair counterpoint, I hadn't considered that.

I still think it's likely all that's left for the year is a D2C batmobile and maybe, at best, a summer set in the vein of the forever batmobile, but they did set up a new subline here and it's possible they go full steam ahead with some more. Though I still think January 2027 is the more likely release date for "Legendary Batmobile Collection wave 2" and it's Keatonmobile, Tumbler, and some sort of animation batmobile.

Edited October 29 by Mandalorianknight

[CloneCommando99]

40 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said:

There’s still plenty of Batmobiles left to be made! 

At the rate they’re going with BvS and B&R batmobiles, watch them make the TTG Batmobile.

 

 

Unfortunately, any chances we had for a Daily Planet mini Modular next year likely went up in flames the moment the Daily Bugle leaked.

Though, the lack of a 3rd Marvel mech set in January gives me hope for either a DC or Doctor Doom one later in the year. Perhaps a GL mech? (I will keep being delusional about this until the theme dies)

 

Edited October 29 by CloneCommando99

[G_Brickley]

I really miss the days when fandoms didn't use box office metrics to argue over how good a project is.

This may be my own naivety showing, but I don't remember any discussions over CBM box office before the charge for Endgame to become the highest-grossing film of all time. Ever since then, I feel like a metric that only studio execs cared about has become ammunition in ridiculous fandom wars.

Like should it really matter to the fandom how much money Superman made if we already have a sequel greenlit, storyboarded, and written? It feels like the people who should care about that sort of thing have already decided "yes, it made enough" the same way that they did with Man of Steel when they greenlit BvS. I'm all for people having a preference between these two projects (my own leaning is towards Superman, but that's me), but using the box office to justify those opinions just seems silly to me. Films I have thought were awful have made loads (Avatar 2, Jurassic World 2) and some I thought were excellent have made nothing (Blade Runner 2049).

Idk, all this is to say I feel like fandoms have become too executive-brained vs having actual fan discussions.

And on a semi-unrelated note, I find it funny that the conversation above stemmed from a meme about Critical Drinker (a known liar and over reactionary grifter) saying the DCU's in trouble. Not a dismissal of any of the takes above btw, just a funny origin point.

[BrickBob Studpants]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

[…] there's a fair chance they'd also have seen how vocal the director is about disliking the current administration.

That‘s exactly my point though, Gunn himself has stated that the international box office was very likely affected by it. And in regards to BNW, I brought that one up because there was a very vocal social media campaign in China, urging people to boycot it in favour of Ne Zha 2. And people are boycotting the US, as tourism for instance has unsurprisingly taken a hit in many places. 

[Mandalorianknight]

4 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

At the rate they’re going with BvS and B&R batmobiles, watch them make the TTG Batmobile.

Unfortunately, any chances we had for a Daily Planet mini Modular next year likely went up in flames the moment the Daily Bugle leaked.

Though, the lack of a 3rd Marvel mech set in January gives me hope for either a DC or Doctor Doom one later in the year. Perhaps a GL mech? (I will keep being delusional about this until the theme dies)

They totally could! Pretty much any batmobile in visual media is on the table. I wouldn't be shocked if they did a $30 dump-truck with absolute batman.

Yeah, no chance of a daily planet mini modular. I think the odds are pretty low of getting any non-batman set.

It's possible, but I assume it would also have been set for january or march and we'd know about it by now. The superheroes theme usually does all their gimmick mechs in 1HY.

3 hours ago, G_Brickley said:

I really miss the days when fandoms didn't use box office metrics to argue over how good a project is.

And on a semi-unrelated note, I find it funny that the conversation above stemmed from a meme about Critical Drinker (a known liar and over reactionary grifter) saying the DCU's in trouble. Not a dismissal of any of the takes above btw, just a funny origin point.

I think you're conflating discussing how much money it made with how good it is. I'm not saying it's bad because it didn't do that well (I thought it was mid. Not terrible, but not great.). I'm saying it wasn't the hit the DCU needed. This is a conflation a lot of people make, believing that they have to defend the performance of a movie because they liked it. My two favorite movies of the past few years, Transformers: ONE and Thunderbolts, both failed spectacularly at the box office. I'm not going to try to rationalize to myself that they were big hits- the chips fell, we got the full picture and they bombed, it doesn't impact the quality of the movies. 

2 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

That‘s exactly my point though, Gunn himself has stated that the international box office was very likely affected by it. And in regards to BNW, I brought that one up because there was a very vocal social media campaign in China, urging people to boycot it in favour of Ne Zha 2. And people are boycotting the US, as tourism for instance has unsurprisingly taken a hit in many places. 

I wouldn't put a ton of stock in the guy who hates the current administration so much he wrote a TV show season he says compares them to nazis blaming that administration for the movie he made and had a lot riding on not doing as well. 

As for BNW bombing in china (you want to call someone's government a "regime", there's one), the boycott did literally nothing. Thunderbolts had a similar box office both in china, domestically, and overall. Fantastic Four, despite making 20% more than the other two overall, only made a third of the money the other two did in china. Is The Thing just so patriotic china correlated him to america more strongly than the captain america movie?

[CloneCommando99]

44 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

It's possible, but I assume it would also have been set for january or march and we'd know about it by now. The superheroes theme usually does all their gimmick mechs in 1HY.

2023 saw the War Machine and Venom mechs in January. And the Batman mech in June. So it’s definitely possible.

Also, on a more delusional note, Lanterns is estimated to release around mid 2026, and MAWGL could release anytime from 2HY next year to   2027. And then there’s the fact that MoT will possibly feature both Guy and John. Therefore a 2HY mech might fit the sweet-spot between the three upcoming Lantern related releases .

Either that or Doctor Doom since he’s the antagonist of the next Avenger’s movie, the movie is releasing late next year, is an armoured character and would be a logical 3rd candidate judging how his predecessor Thanos was in the first mech wave.

I don’t really do much Marvel anymore but a Doctor Doom mech vs US Agent or Sentry set would be just so peak.

 

The best case scenario for mechs next year is we get both.

[Renny The Spaceman]

3 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

don’t really do much Marvel anymore but a Doctor Doom mech vs US Agent or Sentry set would be just so peak.

Doesn't he fight the Fantastic Four? 

 

5 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

At the rate they’re going with BvS and B&R batmobiles, watch them make the TTG Batmobile.

Would be funny if they finally do a set for that and it just comes with Batman

54 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

As for BNW bombing in china (you want to call someone's government a "regime", there's one)

Bad thing can only happen in one place at a time, every time a specific government has an issue nowhere else in the world is allowed to have that same issue. Currently it's the UK's turn having a surveillance state so everyone else here better back off 

[Mandalorianknight]

1 hour ago, CloneCommando99 said:

2023 saw the War Machine and Venom mechs in January. And the Batman mech in June. So it’s definitely possible.

Also, on a more delusional note, Lanterns is estimated to release around mid 2026, and MAWGL could release anytime from 2HY next year to   2027. And then there’s the fact that MoT will possibly feature both Guy and John. Therefore a 2HY mech might fit the sweet-spot between the three upcoming Lantern related releases .

Either that or Doctor Doom since he’s the antagonist of the next Avenger’s movie, the movie is releasing late next year, is an armoured character and would be a logical 3rd candidate judging how his predecessor Thanos was in the first mech wave.

I don’t really do much Marvel anymore but a Doctor Doom mech vs US Agent or Sentry set would be just so peak.

 

The best case scenario for mechs next year is we get both.

Good point, you could be right. Though I really don't think lego's looking at the TV-MA show or the cartoon (which I presume is also Adult Swim like MAWS was?)

It's possible there's a Doom mech but I assume we'll just be getting movie doom, and I don't think we've ever had an MCU mech. (Even if one of the iron man mechs includes a suit clearly meant to represent mk42)

Nah you're copium baiting me with this one, I can't hope for either of them in such a cheap set. Or John at all, honestly- there are just too many characters and we know he's part of the half the thunderbolts who are getting sidelined. I think Sentry has a shot given he sort of broke out and had a wider internet presence than the rest of the film, but I feel like he's probably going to be packaged in the largest set.

1 hour ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

Would be funny if they finally do a set for that and it just comes with Batman

Bad thing can only happen in one place at a time, every time a specific government has an issue nowhere else in the world is allowed to have that same issue. Currently it's the UK's turn having a surveillance state so everyone else here better back off 

I thought he meant TellTale Game batmobile (my fault for posting right after the new Dispatch- another superhero IP that will never get sets), Teen Titans Go batmobile with only batman would be the best possible timeline.

I'm just saying, someone calling my government a "regime" while simultaneously discussing china- especially china's box office (and what is and isn't allowed there) is ironic.

[psqidexslizer]

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

As for BNW bombing in china (you want to call someone's government a "regime", there's one), the boycott did literally nothing. Thunderbolts had a similar box office both in china, domestically, and overall. Fantastic Four, despite making 20% more than the other two overall, only made a third of the money the other two did in china. Is The Thing just so patriotic china correlated him to america more strongly than the captain america movie?

A boycott of American films by China wouldn’t just be for Captain America. It would also apply to the films you just listed. You can look at box office numbers between last year and this year. Chinese audiences spent significantly less on American films despite the Chinese box office overall gross being higher. 

We can debate what is and isn’t a “regime” all day, but we have been seeing increasing anti-American sentiment across the globe and boycotts of American products and companies due to the tariffs and ongoing trade war. And that’s been especially true in China. Superman was definitely a victim of those things, although the significance they played it is unclear.

Personally, I don’t think it makes a difference in terms of what we have been discussing, which is whether or not the DCU is in trouble. WB seems happy enough with the results of Superman. Professionals who analyze box office said it made a profit. There’s a sequel coming out and other projects on the way. I think it’s too early to tell, given that any one of these projects failing could set the DCU up in flames like BvS did with the DCEU, but we seem to be on the right track for now.

 

[BrickBob Studpants]

4 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I'm just saying, someone calling my government a "regime" while simultaneously discussing china- especially china's box office (and what is and isn't allowed there) is ironic.

I don‘t see how China being a dictatorship changes what I said. I don‘t really want to get into all that since I try to avoid the topic as much as I can, but I will quickly justify my choice of words regardless. „Regime“ is an appropriate term for a government where checks & balances no longer apply, separation of power ceases to exist, congress is bypassed, and where the government threatens to use the army against its own citizens, and that‘s just the tip of the iceberg  

You can downplay it as much as you like, but the trajectory this takes is not leading anywhere good. 

[Renny The Spaceman]

9 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I thought he meant TellTale Game batmobile (my fault for posting right after the new Dispatch- another superhero IP that will never get sets), Teen Titans Go batmobile with only batman would be the best possible timeline.

Funny, hope that does happen, we get a wave with the Batman and Batmobile from TTG, Looney Tunes Back in Action and from Epic Movie

9 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I'm just saying, someone calling my government a "regime" while simultaneously discussing china- especially china's box office (and what is and isn't allowed there) is ironic.

I'm aware, my joke still stands though, until our cheese headed friend here decides to defend Winnie the Pooh's regime that argument still doesn't work.

To weigh in here trade wars, the tariffs and their backlash are notable factors in how these things are recived, I don't personally think they made a big difference with this one film but it's a fair argument for others here to make, you're the one who switch the tracks to how discussing something that was gonna happen regardless which particular republican was nominated is totally fair game in discussing these movies, I'm sorry if it offends you but like people were allowed to discuss how certain decisions on how the government dealt with the 2008 financial crash or the COVID pandemic affected the subjects of discussion here, this is fair game not "political digging" 

[G_Brickley]

15 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I think you're conflating discussing how much money it made with how good it is. I'm not saying it's bad because it didn't do that well (I thought it was mid. Not terrible, but not great.). I'm saying it wasn't the hit the DCU needed. This is a conflation a lot of people make, believing that they have to defend the performance of a movie because they liked it. My two favorite movies of the past few years, Transformers: ONE and Thunderbolts, both failed spectacularly at the box office. I'm not going to try to rationalize to myself that they were big hits- the chips fell, we got the full picture and they bombed, it doesn't impact the quality of the movies. 

Oh no that's perfectly valid, my grievance was more of a general one with overall fandom discourse, not anyone specific to this thread. I've just seen so many "my dad could beat up your dad" style arguments in YouTube comments and the like using box office results as evidence, it does my nut in 

 

12 hours ago, psqidexslizer said:

Personally, I don’t think it makes a difference in terms of what we have been discussing, which is whether or not the DCU is in trouble. WB seems happy enough with the results of Superman. Professionals who analyze box office said it made a profit. There’s a sequel coming out and other projects on the way. I think it’s too early to tell, given that any one of these projects failing could set the DCU up in flames like BvS did with the DCEU, but we seem to be on the right track for now.

Yeah these are basically my thoughts. The people who need to think it was a success think that it was, regardless of what we may think.