kbalage Posted February 19 Posted February 19 2 minutes ago, Ngoc Nguyen said: Because the hub in the Porsche is actually 1 hub and 2 motors in one block. Since it's a dedicated hub for cars I'm not sure it will be used for an excavator, especially when its charging port is placed rather awkwardly. I'm sure the designers will find a workaround for that ;) Quote
Ngoc Nguyen Posted February 19 Author Posted February 19 1 minute ago, kbalage said: I'm sure the designers will find a workaround for that ;) Is that an implicit confirmation that the excavator uses 2 Porsche's hub? Quote
kbalage Posted February 19 Posted February 19 Just now, Ngoc Nguyen said: Is that an implicit confirmation that the excavator uses 2 Porsche's hub? Definitely not, I have no information about any unannounced Technic sets. But considering how Powered Up has "evolved" in recent years, I highly doubt the Porsche's all-in-one hub was designed with only cars in mind. Quote
Auroralampinen Posted February 19 Posted February 19 2 minutes ago, Ngoc Nguyen said: Is that an implicit confirmation that the excavator uses 2 Porsche's hub? Well if the excavator is a wheeled excavator then the porsche hub would work perfectly on the chassis:) Quote
Ngoc Nguyen Posted February 19 Author Posted February 19 2 minutes ago, Auroralampinen said: Well if the excavator is a wheeled excavator then the porsche hub would work perfectly on the chassis:) There's no such thing as a wheeled demolition excavator. Quote
kbalage Posted February 19 Posted February 19 5 minutes ago, Auroralampinen said: Well if the excavator is a wheeled excavator then the porsche hub would work perfectly on the chassis:) Why should it be a wheeled excavator? The arrangement of the Porsche hub's motors also makes it suitable for a tracked vehicle. Quote
Auroralampinen Posted February 19 Posted February 19 3 minutes ago, Ngoc Nguyen said: There's no such thing as a wheeled demolition excavator. Yeah that is true the tires would get punctured if wheeled excavator is used for demolition and tracks will distribute the weight more evenly than wheels:) Quote
allanp Posted February 19 Posted February 19 33 minutes ago, kbalage said: Definitely not, I have no information about any unannounced Technic sets. But considering how Powered Up has "evolved" in recent years, I highly doubt the Porsche's all-in-one hub was designed with only cars in mind. Be careful when using the emoji! With it's small battery, I'd say it was designed for vehicles about the same size as the car it came with. There could easily be many more cars and tracked vehicles that uses it, but I doubt it's really meant for anything bigger. It's easy to think of ways an excavator could use that all in one hub, but people are so pre-occupied with weather or not they could that they never stopped to consider weather or not they should! I'm sure there's a lesson there somewhere! Yes they could do it but it'd be pretty lame if they did. I don't think they'll do that but I've been wrong before. Quote
AVCampos Posted February 19 Posted February 19 38 minutes ago, allanp said: With it's small battery, I'd say it was designed for vehicles about the same size as the car it came with. It should technically possible to replace the battery with a larger one, perhaps T-shaped, with 3 cells inside instead of just 1. Quote
mpj Posted February 19 Posted February 19 2 hours ago, Ngoc Nguyen said: Because the hub in the Porsche is actually 1 hub and 2 motors in one block. Since it's a dedicated hub for cars I'm not sure it will be used for an excavator, especially when its charging port is placed rather awkwardly. Aren't there 3 motors inside? Quote
Lego_Minecraft_Goat Posted February 19 Posted February 19 4 hours ago, Ngoc Nguyen said: 42215 2359 pieces 399.99 EUR 18+ Where did this price came from? Quote
AVCampos Posted February 19 Posted February 19 Yes, 3 motors, and also 6 independent lights, of which the Porsche only uses 4 and in pairs. Which means the hub wasn't made specifically for this set and therefore we'll see it again in the future, be it in a car or not. Quote
Ngoc Nguyen Posted February 19 Author Posted February 19 1 minute ago, Lego_Minecraft_Goat said: Where did this price came from? Stonewars. de Quote
kbalage Posted February 19 Posted February 19 2 hours ago, allanp said: It's easy to think of ways an excavator could use that all in one hub, but people are so pre-occupied with weather or not they could that they never stopped to consider weather or not they should! I'm sure there's a lesson there somewhere! Yes they could do it but it'd be pretty lame if they did. I don't think they'll do that but I've been wrong before. It's certainly not the most ideal configuration, but looking at it from a different angle - if all upcoming RC sets can utilize the all-in-one hub for a few years, then TLG won't have to produce all the other PU hardware, they can be retired until the next generation is developed. I'm really curious to see what this set will tell us about the future of PU, if it is really RC of course. Quote
Ngoc Nguyen Posted February 19 Author Posted February 19 There's another problem with using the Porsche all-in-one hub for the excavator: lack of torque. The last two big RC tracked models (42131 and 42146) are driven by Large Angular motors. Quote
AVCampos Posted February 19 Posted February 19 I can't wait for @Philo to take a look at the hub, and hopefully add it to his excellent motor comparison page, so that we can see how powerful (or not) it is. Quote
Oh_Hi_Mao Posted February 19 Posted February 19 29 minutes ago, Ngoc Nguyen said: There's another problem with using the Porsche all-in-one hub for the excavator: lack of torque. The last two big RC tracked models (42131 and 42146) are driven by Large Angular motors. Porsche was fast with a direct (?) drive. Gear down the motors and I suppose torque should be sufficient Quote
1gor Posted February 19 Posted February 19 (edited) 8 hours ago, Ngoc Nguyen said: Build my MOCs instead Together, we can make Technic great again! MTGA movement; thats something new on this forum... 8 hours ago, Maaboo the Witch said: Sounds like another nothing-burger of a year for this theme. Man, Technic is in the toilet. Well I just hope that theme will not end "down the drain"... Edited February 19 by 1gor Quote
allanp Posted February 19 Posted February 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, kbalage said: It's certainly not the most ideal configuration, but looking at it from a different angle - if all upcoming RC sets can utilize the all-in-one hub for a few years, then TLG won't have to produce all the other PU hardware, they can be retired until the next generation is developed. I'm really curious to see what this set will tell us about the future of PU, if it is really RC of course. To be fair, they didn't have to produce all the other PU hardware for all of 2024 and it looks like most of 2025. Well, only enough to supply the current sets that use them. Besides, production can still produce the current generation while they concurrently develope the next. They are a couple years ahead of us, could it be the next generation, or at least the very bare bones beginnings of it, was developed in that time? We have seen new electronics in education after all. Either way, I'm also insanely curious to see what this set tells us about the future of electronics in Technic. 16 minutes ago, 1gor said: MTGA movement; thats sonwthing bew on this forum... Well I just hope that theme will not end "down the drain"... Everything does eventually, but Technic still has so much potential and room to grow for decades to come. As long as TLG sells plastic bricks, Technic should still be there. If it isn't, it's not the theme that failed Lego, it's Lego that failed the theme. Edited February 19 by allanp Quote
Oh_Hi_Mao Posted February 19 Posted February 19 (edited) With 19 sets per year it does not look like Technic is going to the drain. I would suggest the opposite, Technic is selling like never before - thanks to the cars Edited February 19 by Oh_Hi_Mao Quote
1gor Posted February 19 Posted February 19 1 hour ago, allanp said: As long as TLG sells plastic bricks, Technic should still be there. If it isn't, it's not the theme that failed Lego, it's Lego that failed the theme. Yes you can look that way...but IMHO Technic should stick to good old PF and perhaps introduce receivers for bluetooth standard, or even better to integrate them to (smsller rechargible) battery box 2 hours ago, Ngoc Nguyen said: There's another problem with using the Porsche all-in-one hub for the excavator: lack of torque. The last two big RC tracked models (42131 and 42146) are driven by Large Angular motors. Double reduction should do the trick... Based on info so far best set IMHO is Volvo electric loader Quote
Auroralampinen Posted February 19 Posted February 19 15 minutes ago, 1gor said: Based on info so far best set IMHO is Volvo electric loader Yeah i miss the good old days when we got volvo set in every 2 year now its seems we will get volvo set every single year same with the mercedes benz Quote
mpj Posted February 19 Posted February 19 5 hours ago, Ngoc Nguyen said: Stonewars. de I see you fixed the first post with "42215 Demolition Excavator". Is it just speculation or confirmed somewhere? I mean, is there some proof it is 42215 and not 42214? Quote
Ngoc Nguyen Posted February 19 Author Posted February 19 1 minute ago, mpj said: I see you fixed the first post with "42215 Demolition Excavator". Is it just speculation or confirmed somewhere? I mean, is there some proof it is 42215 and not 42214? Just speculation Quote
Ngoc Nguyen Posted February 20 Author Posted February 20 (edited) Actually, on second thought, it is also probable that the demolition excavator is gonna be 42214. It's gonna be midsized and for some reasons overpriced, like 42144, which has less than 1000 parts but has the retail price of 150$... Edited February 20 by Ngoc Nguyen Quote
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