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[A_Goodman]

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Edited July 29, 2023 by A_Goodman

[Elephant Knight]

That is a wonderful shipwreck! It's quite the vast upgrade on the set, but I still recognized which set.

EKnight

[Rogue Redcoat]

This is awesome and although it looks more like a moc than a Lego set there is still a strong resemblance. Since we are talking about a Lego set here I would remove the water and replace it with some light blue bricks like in Pirates of Barracuda Bay. Second, I want a few more images of the back of the build. Lastly, although I like the brick build boat I would replace it with a molded row boat and add a full crocodile. Anyway, Happy building :)

[zinnn]

42 minutes ago, Rogue Redcoat said:

it looks more like a moc than a Lego set

agree, looks way too busy to be greenlit by Lego. but it doesn't change the fact that it's an amazing shipwreck!

my main concern atm is: where is that palm tree growing from? can we see the back of this build?

[Captain Braunsfeld]

I did not even know that this set existed (maybe because it did not include a monkey).

Nice update!

[Fraunces]

Wow. Amazing work. Every detail is right there in your remake just much better. Great work.

[iragm]

I love this -- instantly recognizable as the original set, but an upgrade in every way.  As a contest entry, unfortunately it doesn't have a chance -- this build is simply too detailed to pass for an official set.  But as a MOC, it's stunning.  So full of details and cool techniques.  A lot of the angles really feel "broken", just like a real shipwreck should. Although, it looks like some parts are attached by just a single stud, so I have to ask: how stable is it?

Also, for your palm tree--I love that technique, it's one of my favorites.  But, it would look better with light green leaves on top, green in the middle, and then the dying leaves lower down.

The "torn" sail, the croc under the water, the rockwork, the more I look at this, the more I like it.  Really outstanding work!

[A_Goodman]

On 7/24/2023 at 4:33 PM, Elephant Knight said:

That is a wonderful shipwreck!

Thank you so very much!

9 hours ago, zinnn said:

it's an amazing shipwreck!

Thank you! and there is a hint of a beach back there I will try to upload a photo showing it soon

7 hours ago, Captain Braunsfeld said:

I did not even know that this set existed

The ones with monkeys are very good hahaha this one could have definitely benefited from one!

7 hours ago, Fraunces said:

Wow. Amazing work. Every detail is right there in your remake just much better. Great work.

I so greatly appreciate it!

3 hours ago, iragm said:

I love this -- instantly recognizable as the original set, but an upgrade in every way.

I really appreciate it! and it seems I somewhat missed the concept for the contest as I never thought of doing a build 'lego-fied' but instead as all out as I could. Either way despite not being able to win I am always happy to get in the mix of the awesome pirates community. As for the stability of the ship it is surprisingly sturdy as it has a strong spine running along the length of the ship, the only truly fragile piece is the bow section above the crocodile head which is truly attached by one stud but luckily it holds pretty well.

[Horation]

All in all, good but obviously a MOC

Not a full review (as there's little to critique), but here are some things to consider :

-The shipwreck is fantastic, as is the rockwork, it has a lot of details but also a lot of room to play (and not too many figs!), and there have been many similarly detailed small builds which have been praised, so please don't change it too much!

-The brickbuilt sail is a strength of this build, since it adds more depth than a thin cloth sail would

-The water is impossible for an official set, and I'd like to point out that it's so long that the baseplate is curved, remove this water and replace it with a standard plate-based water colour like in recent sets.

-As for the figures, the skin colour is a big mistake, I get that you'll tell me it looks nicer to you that way, but official unlicensed sets ALWAYS use yellow skin, no matter the situation or personal preference of the creator.

Edited July 28, 2023 by Horation
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[MstrOfPppts]

As already pointed out a stunning MOC, yet sadly far from the contest rules for trying to design an official set. I do wish to see such a competition here - remaking old sets with full blown MOC version, which this entry would be perfect for! And as it is in my nature, I'm not sold on the brick built sail ... the original would fit in perfectly or use the ones from the Silent Marry.

[Yperio_Bricks]

Yeah, this is too good to be a set!

[Marooned Marin]

In the Return of the Classic-Pirates contest there are TWO separate categories - full details here

1. Design a new Classic-Style set  - where the emphasis is building a creation that could pass as an official LEGO set.

2. Remake an existing Classic set - where the emphasis is a remake of the LEGO Pirate set, where builders shows LEGO group how it's done!

As it was politely pointed up, this does not belong in the first builders category, as it's too detailed and does not carry that classic-pirates 90's vibe.

However, this is a remarkable remake which captures all the crucial points of the second category (Remake an existing Classic-set).

Here be past examples of what it means where builders shows LEGO group how it's done. None of these would pass as a LEGO set, but they are still phenomenal pirate-themed designs which would be eligible for the second category if only they were made during the last month.

 

@Rogue Redcoat @zinnn @iragm @Horation @MstrOfPppts

I kindly encourage all creative critiques  - if you are up to it - to give your constructive feedback in light of the second category. Thank yee! 

For the further discussion of the contest and the categories, please use the [CONTEST] topic here  so we can have things centralised. Thank yee, again! 

11 hours ago, A_Goodman said:

it seems I somewhat missed the concept

@A_Goodman Given the brief explanation from above, I don't think you missed the concept at all!

You made an awesome re-make of highly overlooked classic-set which fits nicely within the second contest category. Best of luck!

[iragm]

Ah, in that case, it's quite hard to offer suggestions for improvement!

I'll stand by what I said before about the palm tree -- regular green leaves would really improve the color of it.  You've done a great job with dark brown lower down and lighter brown higher up, it gives real depth to the scene.  Just echo that in the tree and it'll look a lot better.

If you're looking for other things to change, the water is a bit calm; perhaps there could be some waves around the bow of the rowboat, and maybe a few more scattered throughout the scene.

And maybe the characters could be better positioned to tell a story, with one of the pirates frantically loading up treasure while the armada soldier desperately attempts to stop them.

But nothing really needs to be changed here, it's outstanding work as it is, and the only entry in this contest that even comes close is one of the enchanted island remakes.  Even that is a distant second.

[Horation]

Understandable, even if it does make all of the criteria a little confusing for me.

Anyways, a few extra play features would do well here (ex : exploding walls, a few hidden spots, etc...)

Edited July 28, 2023 by Horation
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[Rogue Redcoat]

Now that the rules were clarified here are my suggestions, I would like to see the small ship partially in the water and not just hovering on top, a full alligator, and maybe some more waves for this entry. Also, you could add a bit more of a back story to the build what has changed (like where did the second pirate show up from), and things like that. Anyway, Happy building :)

[A_Goodman]

6 hours ago, Marooned Marin said:

You made an awesome re-make of highly overlooked classic-set which fits nicely within the second contest category. Best of luck!

I so greatly appreciate that it means a lot, and also thank you so much for clarifying the contest rules and requirements, I am grateful to learn I didn't totally miss the mark! 

6 hours ago, iragm said:

regular green leaves would really improve the color of it.

I completely agree especially as the original set used that standard green color for the palm trees, unfortunately I keep my very small collection of palm fronds in that color in a bag and was not able to locate it over the course of the build process.

 

16 minutes ago, Rogue Redcoat said:

(like where did the second pirate show up from)

Thank you very much for the suggestions, I actually had looked into somehow submerging the boat into the water but the 2 or 3 designs I had tried really looked quite strange so I figured it was better to leave it on top despite its somewhat out of place positioning. As for the extra pirate, interestingly enough it is an updated version of a third minifigure included in the original set from 1996 that for some reason was left out of the box art photo, just one of a few mistakes such as the green pants on the Armada soldier which were actually gray in the set.

14 hours ago, MstrOfPppts said:

I'm not sold on the brick built sail ... the original would fit in perfectly

I too am not huge on the brick built sail style, unfortunately my original cloth sail from the set has become a casualty of time and I was not able to find it for this recreation. I had considered the Silent Mary Sails however I convinced myself that the vibrant red and white striped sail was such a defining characteristic of this set that those more realistic dark tan cloth parts would not bring the same nostalgic familiarity I was going for.

[Yoggington]

I don't have any complaints about the eligibility here. Looks good to me as a remake.

However, I do see how the 'MOC-ness' of it has introduced some areas that could be improved. My favourite features here are the sail first and foremost, followed by the different take on the palm tree, the white window detailing.. and distantly the rock.. so the one thing missing then leads to my biggest issue - that the ship has become a huge mass of brown pieces. Some judicial use of colour or features to break this all up would go a long way..

Perhaps the smaller raft could be a different colour? Perhaps you could re-introduce some black and white areas? Perhaps the crocodile needs to return, or the white area needs to expand?

Secondly, I agree with the previous that I'd love more photos. What's inside the cabin? What does the model look like from behind??

 

All in all, there's a lot here to love. Big props for that excellent sail - I love how it turned out.

[Rogue Redcoat]

2 hours ago, A_Goodman said:

As for the extra pirate, interestingly enough it is an updated version of a third minifigure included in the original set from 1996 that for some reason was left out of the box art photo, just one of a few mistakes such as the green pants on the Armada soldier which were actually gray in the set.

Wow, I had no idea!

[Horation]

Quick question @A_Goodman, did you come up with that small boat? I like it quite a lot.

And I'll repeat myself since you seem to have missed my comments, but is there a reason why the baseplate is curved (as in, partly in the air)? I'm curious if there's a structural reason to it or not.

[A_Goodman]

2 hours ago, Horation said:

did you come up with that small boat? I like it quite a lot.

Thank you so very much I certainly did, as a matter of fact it is a small early version of the design with one im more proud of being in this build, if you are interested. 

Also my apologies for missing your comment, the base curves because I used 4 16x32 baseplates connected only by 1x2 bricks covered in 1x2 tiles, and it seems the tension created is just too much for the base plates to stay flat, I tried adding long support bricks but they were very distracting under the trans-blue tiles and i figured they were not worth it simply to limit the curve.

[Horation]

@A_Goodman, your initial post is unavailable to me, I don't know if this is a technical issue on my side or if you somehow accidentally removed the picture (it merely reads ''unavailable'') and it'd be a shame if others couldn't see your excellent piece.

And also, have you considered a ghost pirate? It would be quite a nice addition and would really fit the ''death'' that's associated with the build

[Marooned Marin]

4 hours ago, Horation said:

it'd be a shame if others couldn't see your excellent piece

I second this, and appeal to your good side to return the images and edit the name of the topic from [ENTRY] to -> [MOC] as you have decided to pull-out from the contest, which is also a shame because (I'm gonna say it again) you made an awesome re-make of highly overlooked classic-set. Please consider this.

 

[iragm]

What a bummer!   This was an excellent MOC!

[Rogue Redcoat]

Can you please consider posting the pictures again under the MOC part of the forum if you still want to disqualify yourself :(

[A_Goodman]

@Rogue Redcoat @iragm @Marooned Marin I thank you all so much for the kind words, I will definitely reupload the photos of the the build soon