DC Superheroes 2023 - Rumors & Discussion

[FoggyFate]

4 minutes ago, GoldenNinja3000 said:

I'm pretty excited for this but would've been even more excited if it was Arkham. The two things that worry me are the enclosed walls and low piece count for the price. Walls sound great but I don't want them at the expense of more interior detail. I'd like a space for minifigure-scale Batmobiles but I don't want too many vehicles in here. I really love the 1966 Batcave though so this one sounds great already. 

For minifigures, I hope we get new variants of some Bat-family members and maybe one or two new specialized Batsuits. For villains, I want Harley and the Joker, maybe some repeats, and hopefully a new character or two. The Daily Bugle included 5 new characters but only had 10 or so new prints. I'm hoping this set has more new prints and fewer minifigures than the Bugle. I'd be happy with 12-18, I don't think we need 25. 

I’m assuming the walls will be made up of a lot of larger rock detail pieces, hence the kinda meh price per piece 

[Agent Kallus]

2 minutes ago, GoldenNinja3000 said:

I'm pretty excited for this but would've been even more excited if it was Arkham. The two things that worry me are the enclosed walls and low piece count for the price. Walls sound great but I don't want them at the expense of more interior detail. I'd like a space for minifigure-scale Batmobiles but I don't want too many vehicles in here. I really love the 1966 Batcave though so this one sounds great already. 

For minifigures, I hope we get new variants of some Bat-family members and maybe one or two new specialized Batsuits. For villains, I want Harley and the Joker, maybe some repeats, and hopefully a new character or two. The Daily Bugle included 5 new characters but only had 10 or so new prints. I'm hoping this set has more new prints and fewer minifigures than the Bugle. I'd be happy with 12-18, I don't think we need 25. 

We don't need 25 sure but this costs more than the Bugle so I'd like to see more than 25. Hopefully the relatively low part count means moulded trex, plenty of new figs and maybe some printed animals ( Ace, Batcow, maybe even green animals to be Beast Boy?). 

I want at least 25 bats, I mean they aren't printed or otherwise complicated parts so just chuck a ton in.

[Surge]

jesus there are way too many $500+ sets this summer my wallet cannot handle it

[bricksbyjim]

Minifigure Idea: disco nightwing! 

Clearly I would want most of the figures being accurate and cool but disco nightwing would be HILARIOUS while also being canon (as I believe this was the first rightwing costume) 

I would also love an Ace the Bathound of Bat-cow. 

[Huigberts Builds]

2 minutes ago, Surge said:

jesus there are way too many $500+ sets this summer my wallet cannot handle it

At this point my room wouldn't even be able to handle it. How is everyone else able to store/display all these sets?

[upliftingbricks]

Cant wait for the minifigure list for this to come out. Like the idea of the batcave but at that price point it has to be good design and include a fair few new characters. Hopefully (if good) it leads to a Wayne Manor that can sit on top (love that idea) and an Arkham at some point (though Id sit prefer my modular Arkham playset idea like the Harry Potter Hogwarts sets just to make it more affordable)

[Legocentrico]

19 minuti fa, Huigberts Builds ha detto:

A questo punto la mia camera non sarebbe nemmeno in grado di gestirlo. In che modo tutti gli altri sono in grado di memorizzare/visualizzarli tutti questi set?

I renovated an old building on my property :-D despite this I still have space problems…………….

6 minuti fa, i mattoni ed edificanti dicevano:

Non vedo l'ora che esca la lista delle minifigure. Come l'idea della batcave ma a quel prezzo deve essere un buon design e includere un bel po' di nuovi personaggi. Speriamo che (se buono) porti a un Wayne Manor che può sedersi in cima (adoro quell'idea) e un Arkham ad un certo punto (anche se mi siederei preferirei la mia idea modulare di Arkham playset come i set di Harry Potter Hogwarts solo per renderlo più conveniente)

Modular would be great!  but lego will never do that.  However sooner or later a new arkham is inevitable (maybe 4+ )

[wesker]

Nice to have confirmation that the D2C will be a new Batcave. Now the big question is will whether it will be comic based like the Daily Bugle was or if its related to the rest of the Keaton themed Batman sets coming out?

[PGBQW]

1 hour ago, TheBatstan said:

Alfred minifigure for the first time since 2006 that isn't based on the 1966 show/movies (I count The Lego Batman Movie Alfred in that group).

but TLBM alfred is in no way inspired by the 60's version, it literally could not look any different

[RedHoodPug]

Is this what the drought has been for? With that price it better have all of the hallmarks. I look forward to seeing more details.

[TurnOffTheDark]

I hope this has a cool "suit up feature" like some of the older batcaves do

[PGBQW]

1 hour ago, Agent Kallus said:

I really hope that the fig count isn't taken out by a load of alternative batsuits. 

You know they will and i'm all for it

 

In any case, what minifigures do you guys expect?

Batman, Alfred, Robin and the Joker are a given

Edited February 21, 2023 by PGBQW

[Huigberts Builds]

3 minutes ago, PGBQW said:

but TLBM alfred is in no way inspired by the 60's version, it literally could not look any different

I think they meant an Alfred based on the 66 show or any of the other movies (Keaton, Bale etc). TLBM being a movie of itself also falling under that criteria.

[PGBQW]

Just now, Huigberts Builds said:

I think they meant an Alfred based on the 66 show or any of the other movies (Keaton, Bale etc). TLBM being a movie of itself also falling under that criteria.

Oh, that checks out, yes

[NeutralNoodle]

2 minutes ago, PGBQW said:

You know they will and i'm all for it

 

In any case, what minifigures do you guys expect?

Batman, Alfred, Robin and the Joker are a given

I just watched @Ashnflash video and I agree that this would be a great way to give us figures we wouldn’t get in a normal set, like how the Bugle gave us Daredevil and Punisher. I’m hoping for Cassandra Cain, Azrael, Hush, and maybe someone like Black Mask or Mad Hatter that we haven’t gotten yet. 
 

Also, in terms of the Robins, aside from the likely Damian reuse, I hope we get Dick as Nightwing and Tim as Red Robin (or just a new version of his Robin). 

[spiderfan2000]

21 minutes ago, PGBQW said:

You know they will and i'm all for it

 

In any case, what minifigures do you guys expect?

Batman, Alfred, Robin and the Joker are a given

I'm guessing: Batman, Robin (Damian), Alfred, Nightwing, Barbara Gordon as either Batgirl or Oracle, Red Hood, Red Robin (Tim Drake), hopefully some new characters like Azrael, Spoiler, and a version of Cassandra Cain, probably some number of civilian variants of the Bat-Family, I could also see Lucius Fox being included.  For villains, Joker and Harley seem very likely.  A repeat of the 2019 Catwoman would probably be worth including, looking at it's current online prices.  I'd like to see any of the following included: Two-Face (black and white suit), Bane with the 2021 bigfig mold, minifigure Clayface with Vidiyo slime head, Mad Hatter, Hush, Ventriloquist, Black Mask

[Agent Kallus]

50 minutes ago, PGBQW said:

You know they will and i'm all for it

 

In any case, what minifigures do you guys expect?

Batman, Alfred, Robin and the Joker are a given

I'm sure we won't be so lucky but if it's at the same rate of fig per dollar as the bugle (at it's current price of 349.99 usd) then we'd get 32 minifigs so I'll list 32 that I expect to get at least 20 of.

1-Batman, 2- Bruce Wayne, 3- Alfred Pennyworth, 4- Nightwing, 5- Batgirl, 6-Spoiler, 7- Robin, 8- Red Robin, 9- Red Hood, 10- Black Bat/Orphan, 11 - Signal, 12 - Catwoman, 13-Batwoman, 14 - Lucius Fox, 15- Two Face, 16- The Joker, 17- Harley Quinn, 18- Ra's Al Ghul, 19- Poison Ivy, 20- The Riddler, 21- Mister Freeze, 22- Clayface, 23- Ventriloquist and scarface, 24- Mad hatter, 25- Firefly, 26- 30 civilian ouffits for batfsm members, 31-32 random obscure extra non batfam heroes

 

If we are to get random batsuits, I'd like to see the Beyond suit, the thanagarian armour suit and a black lantern batman 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 21, 2023 by Agent Kallus

[GoldenNinja3000]

2 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

We don't need 25 sure but this costs more than the Bugle so I'd like to see more than 25. Hopefully the relatively low part count means moulded trex, plenty of new figs and maybe some printed animals ( Ace, Batcow, maybe even green animals to be Beast Boy?). 

I want at least 25 bats, I mean they aren't printed or otherwise complicated parts so just chuck a ton in.

Definitely agree on the bats, but I think expecting even 20 minifigures is out of the question. The Bugle got to 25 by reusing existing prints for civilians and entire minifigures from sets that released a couple months earlier. With the lack of regular DC playsets, we don't have many minifigures that could be reused. We also won't get civilian characters that reuse parts.

This is a point I made when the Sanctum was released, but that set had the same number of new minifig prints as the Bugle despite having 16 figures less. I'd expect more than 9-10 new prints in the Batcave but I'm not expecting 20. I just hope we get at least 10 decent figures. 

2 hours ago, Huigberts Builds said:

At this point my room wouldn't even be able to handle it. How is everyone else able to store/display all these sets?

This set will take the place of the 1966 Batcave in my display. I was going to put Joker Manor there (haven't built it yet) but now I'll put the Manor on top of this new Batcave if possible. 

[psqidexslizer]

12 minutes ago, GoldenNinja3000 said:

Definitely agree on the bats, but I think expecting even 20 minifigures is out of the question. The Bugle got to 25 by reusing existing prints for civilians and entire minifigures from sets that released a couple months earlier. With the lack of regular DC playsets, we don't have many minifigures that could be reused. We also won't get civilian characters that reuse parts.

This is a point I made when the Sanctum was released, but that set had the same number of new minifig prints as the Bugle despite having 16 figures less. I'd expect more than 9-10 new prints in the Batcave but I'm not expecting 20. I just hope we get at least 10 decent figures. 

This set will take the place of the 1966 Batcave in my display. I was going to put Joker Manor there (haven't built it yet) but now I'll put the Manor on top of this new Batcave if possible. 

While that is a fair point about the figures, keep in mind we don’t know what else is coming this summer in terms of Batman sets where new figures might show up. There is a $100 set that might be DC. And, on top of that, the prints from 2020 and 2021 might still be available to use (doubt it, but maybe they kept them in production because they knew this was coming.) But, also, you can easily make civilian identities for the Bat-Family without using new prints. So Lego could throw a bunch of those in there to up the figure count without giving us new prints.

 

Also worth keeping in mind, we still have no idea if it will or won’t be comic based. So maybe we should all temper our expectations until we get more details.

[Legocentrico]

14 minuti fa, GoldenNinja3000 ha detto:

Il Bugle è arrivato a 25 riutilizzando le stampe esistenti per i civili e intere minifigure di set rilasciati un paio di mesi prima. Con la mancanza di regolari playset DC, non abbiamo molte minifigure che potrebbero essere riutilizzate.

As has already been specified several times, they did not put the characters from the sets in the Bugle, but they put the characters created for the Bugle in the sets

[Huigberts Builds]

1 hour ago, Agent Kallus said:

I'm sure we won't be so lucky but if it's at the same rate of fig per dollar as the bugle (at it's current price of 349.99 usd) then we'd get 32 minifigs so I'll list 32 that I expect to get at least 20 of.

One thing to keep in mind is that the Bugle was really pushing it on the figure side. They even said they could only do that many because they appeared in other sets that year. Only 6 figures were actually new. 10 were repeats of very recent figures. Not to mention the remaining 9 were figures scrambled together with existing pieces.

Considering the very few figures releasing this year are Keaton and DCEU based we might not even see them in this set. And the last figures from comic based sets are from 2020 with a few exceptions that showed up a little bit more recently (Harley, Joker, Batgirl, Penguin). So most of those are also a bit unlikely to return. I think we are lucky if we see 15 characters including repeats. Plus maybe 3 or so batsuits if they skip out on leg printing. If they did civilian characters like Bruce Wayne or Dick Grayson on top of that I assume they will simply be scrambled together of old parts.

(I see now I did far too long writing this post and most of this has already been said since then.)

Edited February 22, 2023 by Huigberts Builds

[spiderfan2000]

Off the top of my head, I'm pretty sure the latest Marvel wave brought back the same Outrider minifigure prints that were last seen in 2019, so I definitely wouldn't rule out minifigures from about that far back being reused, especially considering LEGO presumably started working on the D2C a few years ago.

Edited February 22, 2023 by spiderfan2000

[Huigberts Builds]

12 minutes ago, Legocentrico said:

As has already been specified several times, they did not put the characters from the sets in the Bugle, but they put the characters created for the Bugle in the sets

While that might be true, if it wasn't for those sets the Bugle wouldn't have that many figures. Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure they used the budget from those sets to be able to create those figures. So even if they were designed for the Bugle, without the regular sets they wouldn't have been able to create this many figures. Without those sets the bugle exclusive characters would've been the first to be axed.

18 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said:

While that is a fair point about the figures, keep in mind we don’t know what else is coming this summer in terms of Batman sets where new figures might show up. There is a $100 set that might be DC.

Maybe, but I'm almost certain it won't be an entire wave like with Spider-man. So I don't think that would do too much.

8 minutes ago, spiderfan2000 said:

Off the top of my head, I'm pretty sure the latest Marvel wave brought back the same Outrider minifigure prints that were last seen in 2019, so I definitely wouldn't rule out minifigures from about that far back being reused, especially considering LEGO presumably started working on the D2C a few years ago.

Yeah okay that's fair, but with DC basically being on hiatus all this time I'm not sure if they kept those figures around. A few maybe, but it would feel kind of odd if after 3 years they finally return, only for all the figures to be the exact same.

I hope I'm wrong ofcourse, but I think it's better to keep our expectations low figure wise, that way we can only get pleasantly surprised if it turns out more favourable.

[GoldenNinja3000]

18 minutes ago, Legocentrico said:

As has already been specified several times, they did not put the characters from the sets in the Bugle, but they put the characters created for the Bugle in the sets

In interviews the designer said they look at how many new figures they can make in a year. Essentially, the same figures came in the Bugle and retail sets to spread out the minifig budget, and in the end the Bugle only had 9 unique prints. If we only have a Batman D2C coming this year and no regular retail sets, I think there's no way we get 20 brand new minifigures. 

Looking at other D2Cs, the only others with 15+ minifigs are Star Wars and Ninjago City sets that also repeat many characters from regular sets. But we also have Rivendell that's bursting at the seams with brand-new prints and molds with no sign (yet) of them being reused this summer. Also, Rivendell is relaunching a theme after a 10-year break and this Batcave is essentially relaunching the DC theme as well after a couple slow years. So maybe LEGO really will go all out to make up for 2022.

Of course, it's a moot point if we do get summer playsets, since those figures can be repeated in the D2C or vice-versa. And as @spiderfan2000 pointed out we could see reuses from 2020-2022 if the prints are still in production.

I'd also love to be wrong and see 20 exclusive figures in the Batcave with a bunch of new characters. I just think it's kind of an unrealistic expectation when the only comic-based DC products we've gotten in two years are 4+ Joker and Harley Quinn sets. And honestly with the way LEGO's done the Marvel D2Cs recently I'm just keeping my expectations low. The Bugle feels like a major anomaly to me, not the norm. But Rivendell is a great sign and hopefully it sets a new standard for licensed D2Cs.

Ignoring Rivendell, I think we'll get repeats of Batman, Batgirl, Joker, Harley, and Penguin from 2021-2022. I'd rather see new versions of Joker and Harley but I'd also like LEGO to save money where they can and use the budget to give us new characters like Mad Hatter. And maybe finally a Clayface minifigure? I actually think it would be really awesome if this Batcave set was based off the LEGO video games. That would be a dream come true!

[spiderfan2000]

A look on Brickset indicates that Robin was included with magazines in 2021-2022, and probably has a good chance of still being available to reuse as well.