[REVIEW] 42056 - Porsche 911 GT3 RS

[charlesw]

As this set is kinda hard to make it work properly, "Ultimate" might be used to separate regular sets from particularly hard ones...if your Porsche works properly, you should consider a career in neurochirurgy or apply to any swiss watch manufacturer

[Didumos69]

As this set is kinda hard to make it work properly, "Ultimate" might be used to separate regular sets from particularly hard ones...if your Porsche works properly, you should consider a career in neurochirurgy or apply to any swiss watch manufacturer

Haha!

I would like to add to that: Anyone who claims to have build a properly working 42056 without having made modifications, immediately disqualifies for any mechanical engineering-related job

Edited August 15, 2016 by Didumos69

[charlesw]

Jangsbricks & FlagsNZ did so and they did not report stall of any sorts...and using one of the trick given by Jangbricks in his video review helps quite a bit. You should never ever lift the chassis until the marriage is complete...and you should test every single gear each and every single step...

As far as I'm concerned, I built box one twice : the first time building without that much care (compared to what was to come), the gearbox stalled on a few gears...the second time, I did choose to build box two first, to add rigidity as soon as the chassis completion without having to lift it in any way. Then I built many of the subassemblies of box one (the little cube could be made to spin very (very) freely (I did change the orientation of the two "change over catch" though). And then built the gearbox, testing it almost every single step from the input of the clutch with a large PF motor (and using the back of a very thin blade to space the gears from the beams)...box one took me almost 8 hours to build without ever lifting it...but it rattles nicely on almost every single gear...from time to time the hardest reverse gear makes the cluch click (so mine is not build as properly as Jangsbricks & FlagsNZ one ;))...and of course I implemented your solution to "force" the gears to engage properly.

So mine works almost properly but I've made some minor modifications. In the end, this gearbox is definitely waaay too complicated for what it does, they should have gone for a 4+1R or a 3+1R instead of a 4+4R...only tractors do have such gearboxes...maybe that was a hint at the long gone Porsche tractor building past

[Didumos69]

Jangsbricks & FlagsNZ did so and they did not report stall of any sorts...and using one of the trick given by Jangbricks in his video review helps quite a bit. You should never ever lift the chassis until the marriage is complete...and you should test every single gear each and every single step...

As far as I'm concerned, I built box one twice : the first time building without that much care (compared to what was to come), the gearbox stalled on a few gears...the second time, I did choose to build box two first, to add rigidity as soon as the chassis completion without having to lift it in any way. Then I built many of the subassemblies of box one (the little cube could be made to spin very (very) freely (I did change the orientation of the two "change over catch" though). And then built the gearbox, testing it almost every single step from the input of the clutch with a large PF motor (and using the back of a very thin blade to space the gears from the beams)...box one took me almost 8 hours to build without ever lifting it...but it rattles nicely on almost every single gear...from time to time the hardest reverse gear makes the cluch click (so mine is not build as properly as Jangsbricks & FlagsNZ one ;))...and of course I implemented your solution to "force" the gears to engage properly.

So mine works almost properly but I've made some minor modifications. In the end, this gearbox is definitely waaay too complicated for what it does, they should have gone for a 4+1R or a 3+1R instead of a 4+4R...only tractors do have such gearboxes...maybe that was a hint at the long gone Porsche tractor building past

I wasn't completely serious of course and there's no universal definition of 'working properly'.

Still, when I watch

, I see (at timestamp 1:45) a clear resonance in the rotation speed of the gears. This resonance could also be seen in Sariel's video review. This resonance indicates friction somewhere in the drive train.

About the trick to never lift the chassis until the marriage is complete...and test every single gear each and every single step... That can surely not be the intention of any model. My statement is: What can be messed up before the marriage, can be messed up after the marriage. It shouldn't be needed to treat your finished build with so much care that the slightest displacement of beams causes it to stop working properly.

And even when you build your model with utmost care, you will never avoid the friction introduced by the pin joiner in the D+N+R-gearbox and the friction in the unnecessary red clutch gears.

Edited August 15, 2016 by Didumos69

[charlesw]

I know full well than in a couple of days / weeks / months, the gearbox will not be working properly anymore...I did it just to check if it could be made to work properly once. As it appears, it can (even though it will not last). Next week I will tear box one apart and implement some more of your ultimate version of this model, replace some pins for better color matching, add doorlocks, and make the body removable...as for real cars, the engine / transmission is married to a complete monocoque

Oh and you should definitely try using printed parts instead of stickers, it looks soo much nicer...shame these are very expensive...as some Porsche had to die in the process

Edited August 15, 2016 by charlesw

[Didumos69]

I get it. I'm looking forward to reading your report on your final version :-)

Edited August 15, 2016 by Didumos69

[charlesw]

I will have to either wait for new part to arrive or took apart my Koenigsegg One:1

Furthermore, I'm hesitating between two options : buy a BWE or buy another Porsche (#FirstWorldProblems)...the BWE is outrageous by its sheer size (and factor in the fact that BWE racing IS the new black), but having two Porsche would be nice too...the one that Lego wanted me to have and the one I really wanted to have

[Didumos69]

I will have to either wait for new part to arrive or took apart my Koenigsegg One:1

"Patience serves as a protection against wrongs as clothes do against cold. For if you put on more clothes as the cold increases, it will have no power to hurt you. So in like manner you must grow in patience when you meet with great wrongs, and they will then be powerless to vex your mind.”

― Leonardo da Vinci

[Ngoc Nguyen]

I'm thinking that, the gear sequence was put in the wrong way, maybe because Porsche wanted it to be that way. Maybe to mimic the real PDK.

[AlphaX]

I'm thinking that, the gear sequence was put in the wrong way, maybe because Porsche wanted it to be that way. Maybe to mimic the real PDK.

Lego themselves have clarified that they put it in that way to "reduce friction".

And why would porsche want it to be wrong?

Edited August 17, 2016 by AlphaX

[MaxSupercars]

I don't know if it was posted anywhere here, but it seems that Lepin has made a very good copy of the Porsche:

Max

Edited September 8, 2016 by MaxSupercars

[Jim]

Please don't post clone brand content. That can be posted in Community, or Facebook Lepin group.

[Ngoc Nguyen]

Lego themselves have clarified that they put it in that way to "reduce friction".

And why would porsche want it to be wrong?

I think it's widely agreed that the "reduce friction" is not the real reason. And since everything in the set has to be approved or vetoed by Porsche, I think Porsche has its own reason to leave the gearbox that way. It doesn't make sense, yes, but only to us. Recall that Uwe replicated the rear steering, but Porsche vetoed it. So realism is not the highest priority.

[Zmei_gorini4]

Beware of fakes

here

Edited September 14, 2016 by Zmei_gorini4

[astra]

Based on the reviews I doubted highly whether or not I would buy it. Eventually didn't need to; I received one as a gift. I started building my set yesterday evening, took me about 4 hours to build box 1. So far haven't run into any problems and gearshifting works just fine. :-)

[BrickWild]

I contacted David Jones via Facebook and this was their response:

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"Thanks for your patience. Our Merchandising Team has confirmed the LEGO Porsche 911 will be available in our stores mid October. If we can assist with anything else please let us know."

Toy Corner's Response:

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It's due in stores (Australia) late September.
So its not that far away now. I will publish it on our wall when our stock arrives but we do have a lot of names down to contact when our stock arrives.

 

[BrickWild]

I've just got mine ordered online today!
And hopefully it'll arrive next week!

Also, it better be Real McCoy LEGO, I better not get duped by a Lepin copycat!

BTW, has anyone tried to redeem their secret code but without success?

[Jim]

Just now, BrickWild said:

BTW, has anyone tried to redeem their secret code but without success?

Yes, I have. I posted a picture of the number plate in my review and two people were kind enough to use it.

[BrickWild]

19 minutes ago, Jim said:

Yes, I have. I posted a picture of the number plate in my review and two people were kind enough to use it.

I really hope the code in mine has not already been redeemed by some psychic smarty-pants!

[Blakbird]

On 10/11/2016 at 0:55 AM, BrickWild said:

I really hope the code in mine has not already been redeemed by some psychic smarty-pants!

The code doesn't give you anything special, just some pictures.  If someone has already redeemed your code, someone here can just give you a copy of the pictures.

[eliminator]

Well, after reading 26 pages of this thread last night I finally ordered this set.

Double VIP points and a free holiday set is as good as it gets when ordering direct from Lego.

Special thanks to "Jim" for posting up the review on page-1.

[Didumos69]

3 hours ago, eliminator said:

Well, after reading 26 pages of this thread last night I finally ordered this set.

Double VIP points and a free holiday set is as good as it gets when ordering direct from Lego.

Special thanks to "Jim" for posting up the review on page-1.

You might also want to read this;

 

Edited October 15, 2016 by Didumos69

[Jim]

2 hours ago, eliminator said:

Well, after reading 26 pages of this thread last night I finally ordered this set.

Double VIP points and a free holiday set is as good as it gets when ordering direct from Lego.

Special thanks to "Jim" for posting up the review on page-1.

Cool! Have fun. I was a tad negative, but it's still a great set. Enjoy the experience  

[Ngoc Nguyen]

Currently on amazon.de for 240 EUR and free shipping!

[Jim]

Tempting...