Brethren of the Brick Seas (BoBS) Introduction and Starting Thread

[Capn Frank]

Anyone have an idea when the updated webforms will arrive, the FB one still links to march, and the property license one still lacks the education and arts selections.

If you fill out the current form and your license class is not listed, fill out the adjudication form too. One of us can manually enter the property license type.

[Tomsche]

If you fill out the current form and your license class is not listed, fill out the adjudication form too. One of us can manually enter the property license type.

Okay thanks, just send in both of them to license the square fountain as a Cultural entry then

[Capn Frank]

Okay thanks, just send in both of them to license the square fountain as a Cultural entry then

On a rare and hopefully more frequent occurrence, your license entry has been fixed.

[Tomsche]

Superbo, thanks

[Umbra-Manis]

Does the setup fee for a mine count against the monthly limit for licenses?

[Capn Frank]

There have been a lot of adjudications submitted for free property licenses and monopolies.

In the automated calculations, everyone's first small commerce, factory, plantation, or artisan automatically did not pay anything for their first property from January to March. Cultural and Education property types will be added.

Monopoly bonuses mentioned in adjudications and license modifier comments have been applied.

[Capt Wolf]

When will the April freebuild web form be up? The link in the Master Index thread still goes to the March form.

[Legostone]

If I want to gift a ship (not licensed) to another player, how would I have to deal with it?

[Kolonialbeamter]

If I want to gift a ship (not licensed) to another player, how would I have to deal with it?

Use the transaction form, and sell it for 0DB.

[Fuzzy MacFuzz]

35 Varieties of Factory

Silent Wolf asked for some inspiration with building factories. Here's some ideas I came up with that other builders might find useful.

Just type any of these terms into google and add '18th century images' or '17th century images' to get some good inspiration:

Tannery, salt pan, iron or lead smelter, lime kiln, tobacco kiln, sugar refinery, cotton gin or cotton mill, woollen mill, nail works, brick works, night soil man, paint works or limery, dye works, wood yard, shot tower, gunpowder mill, cannon foundry, bell foundry, alum works, steel foundry or works, rope maker, sail maker, boat yard or ship yard, furrier, whaling factory, quarry, stone yard/mason, glass works (window or table glass), paper factory, cooperage (barrel maker), pottery, tilery, brewery, distillery, winery/vinyard.

Edited April 7, 2016 by Fuzzy MacFuzz

[Legostone]

Use the transaction form, and sell it for 0DB.

That works! Thank you!

[Kai NRG]

Attention!

--The free ship license rule for MRCA v.1 has changed; everyone without a ship license greater than Class 1 is now entitled to a free Class 1 or 2. In other words, if all your ships are 0s or a 1s, you may free license a Class 1 or 2.

--In the future, when a builder's only ship greater than 0 is captured (entitling the builder to a new free license), the builder will have the opportunity to MOC the reclaiming of that ship and it will not be proceeded upon in the usual way (court action/auction, depending on who captured it) if the builder objects.

[Bregir]

Afirmative!

[Capt Wolf]

So if this new rule had existed a week ago, would we have been able to MOC the return of the HoE without the auction? Group ownership creates a gray area in the rules.

[Sir Stig]

The HoE is not a class 1 or 2 ship. Also, MCTC, or any other co-owned constellation is not entitled to a free licence.

Edited April 7, 2016 by Sir Stig

[Bregir]

So if this new rule had existed a week ago, would we have been able to MOC the return of the HoE without the auction? Group ownership creates a gray area in the rules.

I think it is only in the case of a free license, but Kai will have to confirm that.

[Kai NRG]

The HoE is not a class 1 or 2 ship. Also, MCTC, or any other co-owned constellation is not entitled to a free licence.

Right.

I think it is only in the case of a free license, but Kai will have to confirm that.

And right. The only case in which you can retrieve your ship from a NPC just by MOCing it is if you're taking out a free license for it.

Also, my apologies for mis-wording the rule change. The rule is in fact like this:

--Everyone without a ship license greater than Class 1 is now entitled to a free Class 1 or 2. In other words, if all your ships are 0s or a 1s, you may free license a Class 1 or 2.

[Legostone]

Right.

And right. The only case in which you can retrieve your ship from a NPC just by MOCing it is if you're taking out a free license for it.

Also, my apologies for mis-wording the rule change. The rule is in fact like this:

--Everyone without a ship license greater than Class 1 is now entitled to a free Class 1 or 2. In other words, if all your ships are 0s or a 1s, you may free license a Class 1 or 2.

If one were to have a class 1 licensed with a free license and now wants to license a class 2, is there any way he could just pay the class 1 license besides unlicensing the class 1 (no cost as it was the free license), then using the free license for the class 2 and then license the class 1?

[BrickOn]

I've not done it but, just unlicense the class 1, then use the freed-up free licence to license the class 2 with the free licence as its your only ship. Then re-license the class one with a paid licence. As fair as I can tell the current rule change does not change this bit. But if I've got this wrong maybe someone can correct me.

Edited April 7, 2016 by BrickOn

[Kai NRG]

I've not done it but, just unlicense the class 1, then use the freed-up free licence to license the class 2 with the free licence as its your only ship. Then re-license the class one with a paid licence. As fair as I can tell the current rule change does not change this bit. But if I've got this wrong maybe someone can correct me.

Yes, you'd have to do it that way - so it can all be registered correctly.

[CelesAurivern]

I've not done it but, just unlicense the class 1, then use the freed-up free licence to license the class 2 with the free licence as its your only ship. Then re-license the class one with a paid licence. As fair as I can tell the current rule change does not change this bit. But if I've got this wrong maybe someone can correct me.

The new ruling is that you do not have to rebuy a licence for a class 1 or 0 for this purpose, so this eliminates the need for having to dump ships just so you can recover your class 2.

But what I think Kai is saying is that you need to unlicence, relicence so that the automaton can record it correctly?

More clarification needed on this protocol.

[Maxim I]

The new ruling is that you do not have to rebuy a licence for a class 1 or 0 for this purpose, so this eliminates the need for having to dump ships just so you can recover your class 2.

But what I think Kai is saying is that you need to unlicence, relicence so that the automaton can record it correctly?

More clarification needed on this protocol.

They are talking about what if the class 1 or class 0 was your original free licence. :)

If you paid for those ships, there is no problem :)

[Kai NRG]

They are talking about what if the class 1 or class 0 was your original free licence. :)

If you paid for those ships, there is no problem :)

Yes.

If you had a free license class 1 and you wanted to get a free license class 2, you would have to unlicense your class 1, license a free class 2, and then re-license (and pay for) the class 1.

If you have a class 1 that's been paid for and you don't have any free license, then just fill out the license form and check off the free license spot.

[Sir Stig]

I need some clarification on the rules.

1) If someone builds in another factions territory, who gets the licence money and the tax for that property? The builders faction or the territorys faction?

2) If that someone is a Sea Rat, do they have to pay full price on the licence, and to whom does the tax go to, if they build in established empires?

[Kai NRG]

I need some clarification on the rules.

1) If someone builds in another factions territory, who gets the licence money and the tax for that property? The builders faction or the territorys faction?

2) If that someone is a Sea Rat, do they have to pay full price on the licence, and to whom does the tax go to, if they build in established empires?

Tax goes to the builder's faction; licenses go to the owner of the land.

Sea Rats who build in a non-squatter settlement have to pay full license. They do not pay any tax, even if they build in established empires.