Anne Truitt
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I had so much fun! Thanks Hinck and Trumpet for hosting. I like the setup of anonymous games, it takes out the preconceived/metagamey ideas and let's us 'discover' each other's personalities. The caveat is that it creates days like day 3 (or maybe 2, not sure, i cant see the post count from my cell) where the host had more posts than anybody else. For future anonymous games, is there a way to enable players to create multiple participant PMs? Ells, Jo and myself had to ask Hinck to set it up for us; could you either artificially inflate the post count to 500 or can this be manually overridden by an admin? I'm not good at analyzing setups and balance but I feel it was fair; I would maybe have put only one PGO instead of 2. With 2 PGO and a vig, we could theoretically have wiped out the scum team in 2 nights. I can honestly say that the only person's personality I am almost sure of is Donald Judd which I think was played by Def; as for the others I am unable to venture a guess. Good game everyone!
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Do I even need to justify this: vote: Carl Andre
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Hey! Co-host! Where's that banana bread you promised us!
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I'm going out on a limb here; I think that's the plan. It's hard to say though since everyone's intentions are so hard to read. I have to give you credit for not giving up though; it's very honourable of you.
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I think Carl ran away ...
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I will anxiously await your explanations
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As per?
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This is FAN.TAS.TIC, 2 scum down. I knew there was something fisht about Dan's reluctance to change his vote over to Robert. As several others have pointed out, the 2 'unconfirmed' are Brice and Carl, let's look at voting patterns to see if we can reinforce the case against either one of them: Day 1 - No lynch, Sol is murdered (this is recycled from my Day 2 analysis here) Robert votes for Brice Dan Votes Ellsworth Dan unvotes Ellsworth Dan Votes for Eva Carl Votes Ellsworth Brice votes Robert Robert's vote is based on Brice's attempt to read into the pictures; see here Brice's vote was justified by "your vote for me sucks"; see here Day 2 - Tony is lynched, Frank is murdered Dan votes John Robert Votes Tony Brice Votes John Carl votes Tony Day 3 - Dan is lynched, Robert is killed and Donald is murdered Carl votes Dan Robert votes Anne Brice votes Robert Dan votes Carl - - - A few observations: 1 - Robert voted early for Brice on day 1; day 1 lynches/bandwagon can gather steam really quickly for litterally no reason, this is a very bold move if Robert and Brice are teammates 2 - Brice voted for Robert twice; based on argument 4, I am willing to say, for now, that Brice may be town 3 - Carl consistently voted with the bandwagon (except for day 3; see argument 4) and voted late basically just hopping on the bandwagon. 4 - Carl's vote on day 3 is odd; he first claims that Robert (suspect # 2) is town telling, then piggy backs Jo's accusation/case against Dan and casts his vote; here. Knowing that Dan would not change his vote to Robert and that Robert was CLEARLY not town-telling, I am thoerizing that Dan and Carl conspired to try and save Robert. Now ... AHEM ... J'ACCUSE!!! Carl Andre is the last scum
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I don't know ... I was really convinced Dan was town until I talked to him; his reluctance to grasp the opportunity to save himself is very odd. Even now he would be able to save himself by coming here to change his vote. Strawberries are delicious No he would not; I thought he had voted for Robert for a second. Sorry.
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I should add that at the time of my discussion with Dan, one person was left to vote and as such there was a real possibility for Robert to be lynched over Dan as said person had expressed suspicions of Robert already. Damn ! Blueberries are plans right!? Addendum: plants, not plans
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I think there's a really good chance I will die tonight so I will leave you with my impressions and thoughts: 1) I am not convinced of the legitimacy of Eva and John's claim to be town as it cannot be proved; I was willing to go along today but I'm still uneasy about it. 2) I tried to persuade Dan to vote for Robert given that he had 3 votes versus Dan's 4 and that voting for Robert would essentially save him by nullifying/tying the vote; he flat out refused. This to me seems like he was trying to save Robert from being lynched which in turns might mean that Robert has an important role for the scum. I Dan does not change his vote before the day and shoul he turn put to be scumis, I encourage you to look at Robert as he is likely to be scum as well. Who would not want to survive if not to protect someone? 3) The people I trust to be town are limited to Jo and Donald (which unfortunately voted for me) Also I like palm trees
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You quoted a post from Eva in your reply; any particular reason for that? I don't understand your train of thought. Why would I not want to side with people who were 'cleared'? Why is it suspicious of me to want to ally myself with people who have the se objective as me; to hunt scum. Your vote for me is unjustified an you know it. You are writing posts too fast and are misquoting people in your hurry; you are overly eager to defend yourself. You are under pressure an are reacting with your gut instead of your brain an it causes your replies to be incomplete and confusing. Like a tulip that blooms too early, you will eventually die, we will then see who was right; go ahead push for my lynch. Once it is revealed that I am town, you will suffer the wrath of my fellow townies.
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I have a hard time with Dan's lack of reaction to the lynch; does it not remind you of yesterday's lynch? Dan appears to have given up and that to me is more of a town-tell than a scum tell. The bandwagon is too powerful and I find it unlikely that sum would bus one of their own when they are pretty much acting un-impeeded. As such I will vote Vote: Robert Mangold Also daisies are flowers
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Can you point me to the post where John called me scum? I fail to find it, the 2 posts you quoted are from me. I am not sure where you are a planing to go with this frivolous accusation but please carry on; your wanting to distract the attention away from the principal lynch target makes you appear even scummier than you already are. Roses are red, dandelions are yellow and you my friend are a scummo!
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I am most definitely town and am eager to work with confirmed people; as such I am willing to back down from scrutinizing you and John for the time being. We must however not forget that we have no 'non-suspect' confirmation that this investigator is legit. Are you saying that Ellsworth was also investigated? I don't understand that comment
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I... What? You can't just pop in here and say things like that; give us details. When were you investigated? When was the result conveyed? Why do you speak on behalf of Eva? I find it odd that the 2 scummiesf people were investigated as town; from experience, an investigator would want to form a block by investigating people which are appearing town , not with individuals who are under scrutiny and appear scummy as hell in thread. Mark my words, you two are scum; filthy 'Amorphophallus titanum' smelling scum!
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Are you trying to shift the attention away from our suspects? What makes you think I am too eager; please elaborate? What is wrong with catching scum? As for our conversation; you were just agreeing with what I was saying, not adding anything and did not offer your opinion on the topics I introduced. I perceived this as you trying to extract information from me and I therefore opted to bail out of the conversation. Here's how it went down: I reached out to you on day 1, you replied 3 days later on day 2 and asked me about the game, I answered with my thoughts and asked you for your thoughts on the game you then 'mirrored' my previous answer and basically answered me with "maybe yes, maybe no" when asked about your opinion on there possibly being an SK (a topic whic you introduced in thread). This to me was counter productive and fishy. You were on my radar since this post: And your just coming out to address me like this after I called out your name as a possible scum is ... well ... Scummy scummy scummy!
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This place is lonely ...
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I am in fact over-zealous and VERY eager to catch scum. I don't know if you are deliberately doing this or of you are just not understanding the expectations we have ... Here is a breakdown of everything you said so far: Day 1 Please outline where your contributions/opinions/accusations/thoughts are in these statements; I can't find anything of value. Day 2: The vast majority of your posts are defensive and non-comittal. You gave us some suspects of yours without any justification/explanation, you keep saying you will hold your vote ... what are we supposed to think? I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here and it dawns on me that if Tony had scum-mates to rely on, they would have most likely helped him put together a good case/defence. Through discussing things with someone I trust, I also realize that we probably have more to gain from lynching John; think about it, there has to be a valid reason behind his vote-switching from yesterday. If we lynch John and he turns scum, then we can turn around and look at the person he saved from a possible lynch; Eva. I am considering switching my vote over to John as I feel we have more to gain from his lynch and Tony is starting to look like he is just confused as hell.
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Why? Why remove me? This makes you look even more scummy; I am scrutinizing you and you turn around and say I am no longer a suspect of yours without any justification. if you thought this would alleviate the presure, you were wrong; Vote: Tony Smith
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I agree that it could have been easy for scum to vote you out yesterday; this brings the question of why did they not? I'm going to guess that none of them wanted to be the swing vote and suffer the scrutiny of town today. This argument is also valid for Ellsworth and John; why did the scum not grasp the opportunity presented to lynch a townie? It would have been relatively easy to justify the vote today as all 3 individuals were under a fair amount of scrutiny. This means we either have a disorganized scum team or we have a scum team that is too small to justify exposing themselves by casting the swing vote and were already under scrutiny. I think the latter is most likely. I'm holding off from voting for now but will reiterate that John and Tony are my main suspects in the hopes that one of them, or both, will say something that will blow my mind and make me change my mind. GO!
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I'm not sure I follow you; John's unvoting,and consequent saving, of you is a trap to get us to lynch you. I don't understand what you meant to say here; can you explain how you perceive the vote? What do you mean by "So maybe he screwed up the vote but this whole thing stinks." I can agree with this assessment but I stil feel uneasy about the vote, it is too convenient that it finished in a 3 way tie; there has to be a reason for John to change his vote as he did but I cannot quite put my finger on it. Another thing that's starting to bother me is how after 2 votes, the voting on Tony stopped; let's face it, he was a better 'candidate' than Ellsworth for a vote; so why did John not choose him to tie the vote? I am thorn between casting my vote for John or voting for Tony; in my eyes both are valid and substanciated lynches.
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So, did you scrutinize the votes? What is your analysis? Here's mine: 1 - John opens the dance and votes for Anne (1) 2 - Eva votes for John (1) 3 - Anne votes for John (2) 4 - Robert votes for Brice (1) 5 - Ellsworth votes John (3) 6 - Dan Votes Ellsworth (1) 7 - Dan unvotes Ellsworth (0) 8 - Dan Votes for Eva (1) 9 - John re-votes Anne (wrong format) (1) 10 - Tony votes for Eva (2) 11 - Donald votes for Ellsworth (1) 12 - John unvotes Anne (0) and Votes Eva (3) - Ties vote with himself 13 - Sol Votes for Tony (1) 14 - Carl Votes Ellsworth (2) 15 - Jo votes Tony (2) 16 - John unvotes Eva (2) and Votes Ellsworth (3) - Unties vote with Eva to re-tie it with Ellsworth 17 - Frank votes Eva (3) - Ties votes at 3 for Eva, Ellsworth and John 18 - Brice votes Robert (1) 2 things strike me in this vote: 1) Here is Tony's opinion on the votes and his final justification: This vote is shit; you never provided ANY insight on any of the topics at hand and concluded the day, after you had 2 votes, with this gem: What? 2) John's voting pattern is erratic and screams desperation; but then again, why re-vote to tie the game with someone else when it was clear that several players had expressed suspicions of Eva? By unvoting her you saved her from a lynch; why? You should have pushed for a lynch on Eva or Ellsworth instead of trying to further spread the votes; there was still time to turn the vote around. Since your votes were justified as self-preservation, why did you not switch back your vote to your actual suspects when you saw that it was tied 3 way; you were no longer at risk. - - - Frank's vote was sort of long-coming as he had expressed concerns over Eva early in the game and it was quite obvious he was setting up to vote for her. I think it was John's role to push for a lynch but that he was stuck between pushing for a scum buddy lynch or forcing a lynch on a townie. - - - So what are you saying? you knew he was town? had he claimed to you ?
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The black "double-U" thing on the left is actually yours!!! Yes; My vote was pretty much decided when John made his post about roles and gambits which, as I said before, appeared as he was fishing for info early on. When John voted for me I actually debated on whether or not it should cast my vote on him as I feared it may be perceived as a retaliatory vote but I felt my 'case' (used very loosely) was strong enough to justify my vote.
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I am seriously concerned that people have not bothered to read the rules ...
