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While discussing the sails, lets not forget some of Lego's own plunders, such as the Renegade Runner. Skull and cross bones on that tiny little ship. For an imitation brand, I don't mind the look of these sets. Obviously, they pail in comparison to actual Lego, but if the quality is ok, or if they are interchangeable with Lego, what could be wrong with them? I love Lego pirates, but I realize that other companies could be releasing good pirate themed building bricks too. Too each their own I suppose though.

First off, hello again, long time no post for myself. Things got busy what with heading home to see the family between semesters, and this year won't be giving me too much time for this hobby, thanks to the 8 papers I need to write, two of them over 20 pages long. But I digress, is thats how you spell it :) Ska, I remember from my previous chinese knockoff lego post you were looking for the ships, well sir, here you go. http://cgi.ebay.ca/CRAZYSHOP-Like-pirate-s...1QQcmdZViewItem I hope this is actually what you are looking for, and it looks like there have at least one more from their ebay shop. Enjoy, and hello to everyone again! Texas

I can't believe this topic is still going on strong, I guess cheap Chinese lego really hits a nerve for some people X-O . Anyway, I'm still thinking about buying one of these, and if I do, I think it will be the Imperial Outpost copy, then I can do a direct comparison between the two. And by that time, I will have access to a digital camera, so pics will ensue as well!

no point having two community boards, espically if one is basically a sub forum of the other, a no vote for me.

Nico-Strassburg's set is the one I like the best. The board is creative, and the pieces are brillant. I really like the size of each piece, espically the rooks. I would absolutly buy one of these, no questions asked!

To get back on topic... I'd love to have a thread where eBay deals were placed on the board. That would give us the ability to see who is bidding on what, that way there would be less unknown competition amoungst ourselves, and may even cause prices to drop a little. I know if I was bidding against someone on this board, and they really wanted the set, I wouldn't be trying to outbid them in the same way I would outbid Joe Everybuyer.

Well, Eldorado is on the list too, but right now, my imperials need a ship. Anyway, the purchase of lego will have to take a hold for now, I just got a deal on a new video card that was much needed for my comp. But I think perhaps saving up to get both is not a bad idea. There are rumors of another rebeat check in Alberta, to the sum of 300 somthing, so that could finance an Imperial fleet and Eldorado, if I get lucky in auctions :-)

Well, I don't know about not so pretty pirates instead of nothing, I still have a lot of old lego pirates to collect. What I would like is to see a pirates line in the same vein as vikings, massive swords and obligatory ugly shooting pieces aside. If the new line was done right, I could even make due with slight jellybeanization (yippie, I coined a new word, I think!), although Spanish conquistadors in red, blue and pink armour might be a bit much... So I guess to answer the question, maybe, depending on the quality of the sets. If they are <insert that tiresome argument>, massive brick behemoths, then I'd pass. If they are somewhat decent, lego would get my money. Although I would prefer a return to a system-like pirates line.

I am a history major, but not in naval history, so this might be wrong here, but I remember reading somewhere that old sailing ships used to add armour plating to the outside of the hull. Not on the scale as the Merrimack during the Civil War, which was a fully armour plated vessel, but I think it is possible that armour was used pre-19th century. Now we have to agree upon a time period that the lego pirates line takes place in, which I would place after the 16th century, and before the 19th century. So to sum up, armour plating is possible, but no hulls were made of solid metal. P.S. maybe someone with a better knowledge of naval history could clear this up? Edit: Sorry Ska, when I read 18th century, I thought 1800's. So this long post have been in vain :-/

actually Phes, its me, not Mr. Tiber ;-)

Thanks for all the info Phes. I've read those reviews, but they didn't really help me make a decision, and thankfully the Armada flagship isn't winning, because then I'd have a third choice in an already tough decision.

When I was a kid, I never really paid any attention to the storyline, to tell the truth, I never really knew there was on. I was always to excited to open up the box and play! The fact that there was a story is pretty neat, and the fact that it isn't as bad as the KK story makes pirates even better. Take that castle!

The ol' suicide pact eh? I was tempted to get the Imperial outpost knockoff, but I bought a real Lego one, so thats not going to happen now. I was looking at the Skull Island one, but I just can't bring myself to do it. I would buy one off an eBay auction, but from a private site, no way. Sure, its only $14.00 US plus shipping, but I'd rather have that not go missing, and spend it on actual lego, beer, food, or possibly rent :-) I saw a site that had a ton of Coko bricks listed, but when I clicked to buy it, the site came up "under construction" or some such nonsense. Same as buyin bestlock off the net, just can't seem to do it. If I do decide to take the plunge and try one of these sets, I'll let the board know, espically you SkaForHire, so you can hold up your end of the bargain. ;-)

Looks like the eBay lego community agreed, he relisted it with a lower starting bid. Its still too high for me, maybe if it dropped another $200, then I'd consider it :-)

Here is my small collection. 6285 BSB 6277 ITP 6263 Imperial Outpost 6265 Sabre Island 6235 Buried Treasure(but thats hot-glued to my Christmas stocking :-) )

By these sets from China? I'm pretty sure this is the company that got sued by lego, and I'm sure you all can see why. Anyway, just wondering if anyone has been tempted to buy any of these lego knockoffs, and if they are actually worth it. http://www.a-k-shop.com/e/0149.htm http://www.a-k-shop.com/e/0044.htm

Well, I had to chip in on this long dicussion, and vote PIRATES! Castle has been a part of lego since time began, and I think it will be a part of Lego till the end. Pirates, however, had a shorter run, but produced quality sets. Also, it is the theme that got me involved in Lego in the first place, thank you BSB. To me, Castle has shown how you can only do so much with a baseplate and grey bricks. The Pirate theme had so much diversity, that the possibilities were almost endless. With a baseplate, you are somewhat limited to your MOCing options, but the base lego pirate hull leaves almost limitless options for a MOC. Sure, the more eager MOCers will build castles without baseplates, but to me, they all look pretty much the same. Massive buildings made out of grey bricks. While these MOCs are still impressive, there is only so much style you can add to a castle, before it becomes KKII worthy. Pirate bases built without a baseplate are open to much more design liberities. A roudy bar, full of pirates and wenches, a governers mansion, ports, island forts, the list goes on and on. As well, colour options for the pirates line are more varied as well. Even the dreaded bley, scorn to many a castle builder, could find a use in a pirate MOC. Also, what pirates introduced to the Lego lineup deservers mention as well. All the accessories, like firearms, monkies, sharks, etc, opened up a lot more options for lego. And where would the castle sets of the 90's be without the baseplate? IMHO, castle owes pirates for that one! For all these reasons and more, Pirates is far superior to Castle. Edit: Now pirates is only merely 7 votes away from tying, 8 away from victory!

I have never had a bad experence with buying used lego, but if I ever do, I hope it isn't as bad as what happened to you. That is just down right wrong. On the other hand, great bonus with the extra minifigs, hopefully the smell will come out soon though.

Yeah, I'm thinking CC right now, but mainly because it is cheaper on eBay than the IF. Go figure that one eh, the larger ship being cheaper!

I like the sails, they were definatly a must-do addition. Everything else about this ship is great, aside from the cannons. I am in full agreeance that with this ship, they must be homemade cannons, but right now they don't even look like cannons to me. A little sprusing up of those, and I think you'll be good to go. Oh, and IMHO means In My Humble Opninion ;-)

Oh believe me, I have no intention of buying these sets. But I figured there might be someone out there looking, possibly, for something like this. At the very least, if you like the Armada ships, here is three o' dems.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Huge-lot-Lego-pirate-sh...1QQcmdZViewItem not sure if this link will actually work, or if you need to copy and paste, I'm no good at HTML, but this looks like quite the auction. A nice MOC of government style buildings too. Just looking at eBay, and thought I might post this incase someone is interested.

Well, the topic says it all. I like the look of the Caribbean Clipper better, but the sails in the Imperial Flagship are nice. The downside to each is the lack of detail on the Clipper, and the narrow hulls on the flagship, soooo........ Which one should I get? I'd like to hear you opninions, and links to pic reviews if they exist, as I can't seem to find them. Thanks all

I, for one, never expected authenticity from any Disney movie, PoTC included. I was infact surprised at the level of historical detail used, and the fact that the main force in the Caribbean was, infact, Britian. When I first heard about the movie, I was expecting that it would somehow include America in some way, as so many movies these days do. For the record, I am Canadian, and somewhat against the importance Americans play up for themselves in historical movies. Anyway, this last comment has a very strong potential to go off topic, so lets move on. I may not have been around this lego community for long, but I have seen a LOT of PoTC influence in MOCs. In my mind, this is more a coincidence of me joining now, right after the release of the moive, than say 6 months or a year ago. That being said, I have a feeling that, as the novelity of this movie dies down, so will the influx of PoTC MOCs. I am not saying these MOCs should stop altogether, as some of them are really, REALLY awesome, like the progress on Ghoulrealm's "Flying Dutchman", an awesome looking MOC so far, and I hope Ghoulrealm gets the bricks s/he gets to finish it, because I think it is really off on the right track. On the other hand, the amount of "Black Pearl" MOCs could quite quickly get out of hand. Not that I want to stop anyone from mocking, although I doubt my humble opninion holds that much clout, but Lego is, at least in my mind, meant as something that you could use to create anything you wanted. When I was a kid, and after I destroyed my original BSB, and lost the instructions, I used the hull pieces to make a massive space ship, ugly looking planes, anything I could dream up. That, to me at least, is what a MOC is all about. Drawing inspirations from movies or TV is great, but there is something to be said about building something that is your own creation, then sharing it with a community. And that is where I see MOCing going once the hype from the movie dies down. Anyway, I'll get off my soap box, that was much longer than I had thought it would be. :-$

I don't have a problem at all with the lack of "shooting" cannons. The cannons lego made are big and bulky. Thats ok for most of the ships lego put out, aside from the small no mid-section ships, because they wern't really heavily armed. It looks to me like this ship only has one midsection, so the use of homemade cannons to give her a better broadside is ok by me. It suits the ship better IMHO.