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As much as I hate to say it, you could be right in the ballpark with that guess. It would be in the scums best interest to convert someone who has a)already built alliances with several townies b)been confirmed town In fact, that may just be the problem that Babydoll is facing, perhaps she was converted and thats conflicting with her ability to announce her innocence. It's a longshot I know, but that could be as plausible as any other guesses. Never mind, it seems as though (again) in the time it took me to vocalize my point, an answer has presented itself.

I think you'll get more attention like this *ahem* Everybody watch out for the possibility of a conversion! I.E. Who once was town might now be scum! The lack of killings, as Clayface has brought up gives light to the possibility that the agents may have spent the night adding someone to their roster to replace Catwoman.

Yeah, I was definitely blocked, apparently I "couldn't remember anything about the investigation" to paraphrase the information I received. I to find it weird that there are supposedly two blockers, but considering Babydoll doesn't have a confirmed message, it will be interesting to see what the bird and the clown have to say on the matters.

Yeah, don't worry I understand that, I even stated it in my second option, maybe I didn't say it very clearly. If there is a Janitor, it would have definitely been coordinated, however, I'm suggesting that if the killer is a neutral/independent serial killer, which I believe you brought up based on the fact that there is no clear murder weapon, then could it be possible that in addition to killing he could also remove the identity of the victim? Those who know the works of Doctor Thomas Elliot may be cluing into my train of though now.

And it is duely noted! I apologize, but it seems in my time to vocalize that you already had an answer

I think the Creeper brings up some fantastically well thought out points. The cases against Bane and the Ventriloquist are slowly growing stronger. Right now I'm inclined to want to vote for the latter, he set off alarms for me on day one when he started with his numbers, then he started acting passive, but the whole listening in to the conversation with catwoman then jumping on the bandwagon last second really sells it for me. I also think that if Ra's was mod-killed there would be no hush hush about it, just a plain as day execution. I'm gonna stand by my original assumption. Also, the only thing I've learned about Babydoll regarding her alliance, is that shes clearly toting around a gun in the group photo. I wonder why we havn't heard anything about it yet, I saw her listening in already.

Yeah, I guess if you don't "know" Ra's, then it can come off that way. The possibility of a Janitor is weird, if we are to believe that Ra's was killed by a serial killer, then the janitor picking that same person (who I might add did next to nothing in the say thread) is very coincidental. So the alternative would be Ra's getting killed by scum, and the janitor cleaning up afterwards? Do you guys think it's possible that the serial killer also could have removed the identity from the deceased?

I remember you, you were the first person I sent a PM too! I said, "nice custom bith head", welcome back!

I'm glad you share in my happiness as well my musical moron! (joking) It'll be interesting to see how many more of those jokes I can make. On to more important news, it's good to see Clayface hasn't aired out on us. He shares some good points on the mysterious Ra's, however, if I know a thing or two about the demons head, and I do. I think his allegiance not being reveled has nothing to do with the acts of another person. Ra's is a mysterious immortal, I could see him drying off from another Lazarus bath half way across the world by now.

Not to be rude, but I don't think your in any place to be telling people what is and isn't helpful

Hmm, seems like asking questions yesterday wasn't such a bad idea after all? No role confirmation for Babydoll, if she is scum, then all of you who brought information to her might be kicking yourself in the butt right now. Unfortunately my night wasn't as successful as I would have like it to be, it seems as though I was blocked by a no good undercover agent. I'm very pleased with the work the creeper has put in, his inside knowledge of scum tactics has proved most beneficial for us! Now we just gotta hope he's not converted. Lots of things to discuss, next on the list is banes possible allegiance, his points do seem contradictory, however I don't know if thats enough to implicate him. I think Poison Ivy's got more of a target on her head for directly confronting the Creeper the other day.

By all means I'm glad you guys are able to look at my revelation with two sides. That means there is hope for this operation yet!

She does,just go to the second picture (little boxes at top of picture) and there should be three harley's standing together, the one in the middle has a smirk.

Ugh, don't remind me... Keep a seat warm for me?

Agreed, there are still a few who choose to remain silent, but with any luck I think they'll start discussing a bit more.

Oh and unvote:Clayface/whitefang vote:Catwoman/Callmepie Sorry sister but it was you or me, and I know I'm innocent.

Egg-zactly my dear friend! I knew that people around here wouldn't change a bandwagon without something a little more....substantial to he said she said. So I played the only card I had left,and thankfully it was a trump card. I think thats the only thing that could have saved me at that point, but, I digress. Now on to more important matters, at the top of the list we have- saving my sorry @$$. I think that are roles are most definitely connected to our identities, so don't put all your faith in Babydoll just cause she says shes innocent, I know I'd want to believe a six year old girl when I see one, but she could be playing all of you. Basically, I'm saying she has nothing to worry about when the lights go off. However I need a little more help, I'm afraid of the dark you see, and some protection would be kinda nice (hint hint, nudge nudge)

New Harley Quinn! She looks pretty good in my opinion.

Wow, and you think I'm dumb? Only three of those are questions! Notice how on all three I say "I would like to ask" and on your fouth point I'm just stating to egg-head I believe that I'm interested in knowing. You really need to read what I'm saying more clearly, then I might not have this god-awful bandwagon against me, and you guys could actually still have a useful criminal on your side. Anyways, it's nice to see that some of you guys are actually taking an active role instead of sitting around with a thumb up your megablocks and waiting for someone to throw a stone then just bandwagon off of that, but hey, if thats how you guys plan to survive, don't let me stop you. Lets try this differently so maybe passive players will see it The questions I ask would not have given me any additional information, no abilities are passive as stated in the rules, that means the innocent confirmation is Babydolls ability, I did not know there were passive abilities, so I asked because I was curious, therefore I asked something that should have been common knowledge. It seems as though a few people are still hopeful for the town, I hope some of you people voting for me our able to see how slim the case is against me, I can guarantee you will convict a criminal and you will be sorry. you know what? Screw it, theres no way we can turn around this bandwagon yet. May as well just come clean. I was the damn investigator, good luck trying to solve this without me hahahaha, but I guess thats just my luck, I try to be active and ask questions and I get myself killed, I'm glad some of you are able to see a weak case when its there and aren't so narrow-minded. Your the only hope for this operation. I guess if you want to survive in this place you have to sit on your megablocks, say one thing, then bandwagon! Well good luck to you all, when I'm dead, there are gonna be a lot of questions, and no one with the answers

Well, I knew there would be a bandwagon against me, because people in here can't think for themselves. I'll admit there is a case against me, however Babydolls other points are fallse, as in they are wrong, as in she made them up. Allow me to explain what happened, and hopefully some of you will listen. Babydoll says how she will be proven innocent I ask her if this has something to do with her skill or if it is out of her hands (passive) She comes back (I'm ignored) so I ask her two more times in the same post She accuses me of being scum I defend myself as anyone would do She then says I asked her four times (false) and that even after she said she wouldn't answer I apparently kept pestering her (also false) People see that a most likely credible person has voted and posed one valid argument Without reading anything else "you guys talk to much" they make an uninformed bandwagon against me, perfect for the scum to hide in while I, an innocent criminal, and a useful role to all of you, is convicted. However, The information I was asking for was already widely known because the rules say no actions are passive, so therefore, me asking would not have given me or the criminals or the scum any information that wasn't already widely known. It's not a question scum would ask because everyone already knows the answer, in no way does the question I act do anything to further convict Babydoll. I'll admit there is a case against me, but if you look at all the facts I myself have presented, you'll see it isn't very strong like most of you people are saying, I urge everyone to go back in the day and challenge me on these things, but you will see as I see. Hopefullythere is still time for people to change their vote.

1.If that was the reason, then you should've stated that originally as it being the reason why you overlooked my question. I know you said it earlier today and you were gonna do some catching up, but even after that my question went unacknowledged. 2. You told me you weren't going to tell me, then you started accusing me. My "bugging you" is simply me trying to defend myself for my actions. Again your making stuff up. The third time (no fourth time) was before you told me that you weren't going to tell me originally. Ever since you said you weren't saying, I've stopped asking, you need to get your information straight. To recap, I asked you once, twice, three times, I got an answer, I stopped asking. 3. If Penguin and Joker have already stated that there are no passive actions, which has been brought to my attention by Egg-head, then I have not condemned you anymore then you have condemned yourself, the knowledge I was looking for is knowledge that was already apparent to everyone else. You've already put yourself in a position of risk by announcing to everyone that you will be confirmed tomorrow, I have done nothing to increase or decrease the potential risk you have put yourself in. Since I have asked my question you have made up two of your points, the point that you do have is valid and will most likely be enough to start a bandwagon of votes beginning with the people who can't think for themselves.

Well I'm trying to be more active rather then passive, I'm trying to accomplish something rather then just sit around, say one thing for the day, then be on my marry way. I want to try to figure things out sooner rather then later. I guess your right that I could have just waited for tomorrow, but when you didn't answer my question simply the first time around, and not necessarily answer it, but acknowledge it, then I wouldn't have gotten suspicious and kept snooping. Then I wouldn't have accidentally put myself under the chopping block and we could be working towards finding someone who is actually scum.

Reason being was because I thought she either a) Didn't see it or b)avoided it on purpose. I'm trying to understand this because I haven't seen anything like it before and I don't know what to make of it.

I've asked three times, and you ignored me the first time, so I persissted, I thought you were just avoiding the question so I asked some more. I want to know if it is your skill or not mainly just to see if I can get a head of the game, I want to know if I can trust you, to do that I need to know why your identity will be revealed, will it be because you have an ability that allows you to confirm to everyone that you are town, or is it something that is out of your hands and is mainly narrative on the hosts part. And how am I complaining? I'm not complaining at all that your alliance will be revealed, by all means if we can have a central trusted criminal, I'm all for it! I've never once said it's unfair! Your just making stuff up now.

Good point, I hadn't even thought of that possibility to be honest, I suppose if this confirmation is linked to her skill then being blocked would negate it? It's all very weird. I think if a protection could be achieved do you think that would also result in a block? I'm still very interested to see what Babydoll has to say on the matters.