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I'd like to try. I haven't played before, but I've followed through the Prohibition Mafia game. <fingers crossed!>

Cheers KimT, I appreciate the hard work you do in the SW Forum. Happy birthday!

The SNES Zelda is one of the greatest games ever made, so I can think of many worse ways to widdle away your time than that. If I rode the train everyday, I'd be jealous

I pulled the Wind Waker out this weekend because of this thread (and Wii's backward compatibility ) And I like it so far. I still think the water bit is dull. I need to read something for the five minutes it takes to cross the map. And playing a song to change the wind is very very annoying. And feeding that fish to draw your map But the dungeons are great so far, and I enjoy the islands and the sense of randomness in the game. I just look forward to getting the warp ability. That's there, right? I don't remember it, now, five years on. Twilight Princess is still better, and I really look forward to 2010's release. I hope it isn't delayed.

Another interesting link, about some positives of the iPod. Not that it sold me on it. http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?994

Stunning work! You captured it perfectly. Looking forward to your next piece

I don't care for the cartoons either. I think even as a kid I wouldn't have been too impressed. But the alternate builds would inspire kids to play, I think. Thanks for the kind words

Big Cam did a stellar review of the 2007 Sith Interceptor, and there was some discussion about the quality of the old version versus the new. Of course, a 1999 Star Wars set isn't going to be as sleek as the current generation, but does it have a value unto itself? Set#: 7151 Name: Sith Infiltrator Theme: Star Wars Year: 1999 Pieces: 244 Minifigs: Darth Maul MSP: U.S.$30 Peeron Brickset Bricklink The booklet Same as the box. A random page. Again, we see that Lego were able to make clearer instructions at the turn of the century. There is no doubt which is black, which is dark grey, which is light grey. Ah, those were the days. A full-on narrative of alternate builds goes on here. The story is nothing, but I find the creativity of the alternate builds enlightening. Total alternate builds shown: three. Damn jawas. Scum of Tatooine. Total alternate builds shown: five. Total alternate builds shown: seven. Absolute insanity. What happened there? Are costs really cut by not doing these fun things? Something that really should be brought back. The Pieces A small melange of subdued tones. Only a few specialized pieces, like those in the tie fighter wing joints. Darth Maul is great. How do you keep a cape in this condition for over a decade? Don't play with it, and keep it in a box for most of that time. It's been about seven years since he saw the light of day. The print is slightly off, but I think this is a nice looking mini-fig. There is an off-set white tone here, but it shows up in close-up then just looking at the figure. In my opinion, this was the most interesting mini-fig released in the original line. The Build The set is built in four parts, and comes together like a tie fighter with a big nose. It's an incredibly simple build, with pretty much no chance for error. Snap those together and... The Finished Product This actually looks quite nice, if quaint. Compared to the MOCs on Eurobricks, it is too simple. Here is the real model. As we can see, it's sleeker than this Lego model. I've seen Phantom Menace too many times, but I really don't remember the ship that well. It appears fairly briefly. So, when I got this I was quite happy with it, and I was happy building it again now. Juxtaposing it to the 'real' thing, it is quite clunky. The wings are the weakest part, as the hard angles don't capture the curves of the actual ship. Another weakness is the stand. And as a matter of fact, those same round stands don't work on the mid-size Millennium Falcon last year. The back is nice though. A nice printed hatch. Flip that blue latch, and what happens? A certain Mr. Maul is revealed. You can just grab him by the speeder and pull him out. In a 100% Lego design motif, there's a hood that opens to store the spy droids, and that double chrome light saber if you're so inclined. And those spies in all their glory. His speeder is alright. The actual one has a curve to it, which this doesn't have, but as a simple Lego creation, it's elegantly simple. And that beige base piece is one of a kind for me. Yes, simple is the word. The Final Verdict This is a decent set. Not amazing, but very respectable. Design: 6/10 This is obviously a design from the years before slopes. I think they did a good job with the pieces they had, but then other design choices, like the landing gear and hood do nothing for this ship. Build: 7/10 Nothing new. At the time, I loved it, because at that time, I hadn't played with Lego in over a decade, so it was great. And I enjoyed making this again too. But if I bought it now, I wouldn't be knocked out by it. Respectable and traditional. Playability: 9/10 Only one mini-figure, sure, but he has a speeder, which enters the ship, plus the alternate builds. And it's sturdy, good for the kids. Minifigures: 9/10 Only one. But one of the rarest and most desirable. Maul was the coolest thing about the whole damn prequel trilogy. I can remember seeing his photo in that big Vanity Fair shoot months before The Phantom Menace was released. That was a high point, like the week before Christmas... A tease of something awesome, with belief that it would live up to the build up... And he died in the first movie Price: 6/10 It is what it is. Overall: 7/10 For me personally, I really dig this set. But it's because it was the set that rescued me from my first dark age. So I work my hardest here to rate this fairly. The ship isn't slick, and doesn't capture the original well. For what it is, it's a nice fun thing, but that's not what we expect from a Lego Star Wars ship, is it. This is not a must-have, or a hidden gem, just a work-horse of a set from the first run of Star Wars Lego. Where it stands out is the Darth Maul mini-figure, which to this day is a rare figure. But, if you were to pick this figure up, you're better served to pick up the 2007 version of it.

Should they be judged by their names on other forums? No worries, I withdraw anything I've said about Clone Wars members here. My mistake, and I apologize for any stress it's caused AFOL who are also AFOCW.

Honestly, I'm not writing any hard rules here. I was just saying it looks younger.... You're right, an adult could well use Clone Wars for their display name.

I Scream Clone and Clone O'Patra are two I wouldn't put in that boat, but surf the Star Wars forum, and you'll find a lot of clones, commanders, and other Clone Wars names. Change what I wrote to using Clone Wars names and images, not simply the word "clone"

I can agree with some of what you're saying, but in other places I think you're off the mark. Of course some adults post immature stuff. The age requirement is not in order to make every post stoic and proper. There is as element of adults acting like kids on this site. That's not Eurobricks, that's just adult life these days, adults like to crack jokes and that sort of thing. Talking about how adults use their Lego, well, that's just irritating to me. I'm an adult, I like building Lego sets. I've done a lot of reviews of sets for the site. I collect it. I never really play with Lego except for posing it. That's what I do. Sorry if it's "unsatisfying and dry" how I use my Lego. Maybe I'll stop collecting The title of this thread is "Target Age Group". It's not saying teenagers are bad (I can vouch for two teenage users here myself). It's that the target audience is AFOL. With that, teens and kids obviously acting like teens and kids will be banned. I don't think any mod here has made this a witch-hunt for underage posters. Not responding to you, but to the talk about spelling. You know what? Adults make spelling mistakes. Hopefully not rampantly, but it happens. Perfect spelling is not what the 18+ rule is all about, in my opinion. The English Rules and Clarity part here explain it pretty well http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=18718 On a side note, referring to two posters in this thread: Having "clone" in your name is a quick way to look like a kid, since the Clone Wars has attracted so many new Lego fans. Having "clone" in your name and complaining about the 18+ rule makes you look that much more like a kid.

I won't be buying an iPad. It's just a big iPhone. An iPhone is alright, but the strict restrictions on software and the inability to multitask make it a heck of a lot less useful than a laptop. The iPad is cheaper than a notebook computer, but the savings aren't worth the frustrations, and, frankly, lack of dignity in having Mac approve all software on the machine. I'm a grown-up, and can decide for myself. It wouldn't be bad for my wife, who doesn't do much with the old laptop I gave her, but it's no good for me. Here's a good summary of some of the problems with the iPad http://lifehacker.com/5458690/the-problem-...-the-apple-ipad And that site is pretty awesome for the techie of us out there

True enough. I left my Technic sets built in a box for eight years, and when I 'rediscovered' them the elastics were either stretched out or broken. They never taught that in science class, did they? Anyway, the only two Technic sets I got had piles and piles of elastic bands in them. I probably have 40 unused ones. Probably that's a rare occurrence, and I was working at Toys R Us at the time and tended to pocket stuff that wasn't sellable when possible, like incomplete merch (is there a confession booth here?). Anyway, this review all used new elastics that I had stashed away.

A beautiful, elegant MOC! I especially like the work you did on the nose of it.

Fair enough, I still think they're all weird Mainly stuff like Technic Darth Vader, which makes no sense to me.

This this is incredibly stable, much more than the destroyer droid. Part of it is that Technic uses so many pins, but part is that it's not very big, so it doesn't buckle under its own weight. I totally agree that the Technic line was weird, but those first three sets, 8000, 8001, and 8002 all look somewhat normal.

I am doing this review simply to help complete the Star Wars index. My first review for this fine website was 8002, the Technic Destroyer Droid, which was a marvelous, complicated thing. The Pit Droid on the other hand, was the cheapest of the three sets available. The Pit Droid itself, in the movie, was debatably the least cool droid in The Phantom Menace, in a hard contest with the ever-useless Battle Droids. Of course, a Lego set isn't a popularity contest, and the company has been known to make fantastic lemonade out of lemons, so lets see how it fares. Set#: 8000 Name: Pit Droid Theme: Star Wars/Technic Year: 2000 Pieces: 223 MSP: U.S.$20 Peeron Brickset Bricklink The booklet Cover is the same as the box front. That ol' pit droid, gettin ready to go tune some pod racers with Anakin. Whoooh! I really like the instructions of this iteration of Lego. Really clear to understand, simple line drawings of how to build the set. I actually rate this above how things are done now, which are slicker, but sometimes a bit hard to make out. The instructions also show the actions with human hands, which I haven't seen recently (though I don't have any current Technic sets). The hands look a little quaint, but it does the trick. The Pieces Your regular assortment of Technic parts. I have to say, it's a nice colour scheme, the tan and green. But I'm not a Technic connoisseur, so I can't objectively judge the rarity of anything here. The Build The build makes a Rubix Cube look like a baby toy. Do the first dozen steps look like this? Or this? At the halfway point it has legs, and can stand on its own. But it folds up into this contortionist nightmare. Twenty minutes later, we come to The Finished Product This looks pretty good, and is darn near close to the movie version, save the open helmet. The helmet gets the contours, but a plate would have done the job. No idea what his tools are, but he is certainly a skinny fellow. A back view for the sake of completion. The helmet is about as complicated as it could possibly could be. Elastic bands hold the hands tense together. As with the legs. The elastic bands keep them extended. When tucked together, along with maintaining a unique boxiness, the elastic bands are kept in a rare state of tension. A centimeter of movement would descend the legs. The whole of it is locked through the 'nose' When you push it in, it lets the body release. A clever design! The Finished Product: part 2 The second build, and oh, how I love that there is a second build, leaves this mishmash remaining, so I think it's a pretty good use of parts. It's a speeder bike. Pretty awesome. In the hierarchy of lovable Star Wars creations, speeder bikes are up there with Boba Fett and Darth Vader's breathing. And this set recreates the bike fairly accurately, right down to the back flaps. It's a great balance for the set. The fairly cool Destroyer Droid Technic set came with a decent AAT as an alternate model, so it's nice to see the dorky pit droid get complemented by the coolest vehicle from the original trilogy. There is an elastic band between the legs and the tail. Naturally they stay open, which at the same time opens the flaps at the back. This is just brilliant. If you recall them in the film, when sitting, the flaps are closed, and when the driver pushes the legs, the flaps open. This model replicates it perfectly. Pick it up and the legs drop, and the flaps open. This is very, very impressive. This is a very narrow model. It's great in the head shot, isn't it? As you can see, it's not so suitable for mini-figs. This guy looks worse than that ewok did. It's probably a good scale for an action figure, but I'm a grown-up, so I don't own any action figures but the only action figure I own is this very dusty 2003 Clone Wars cartoon General Grevious. I tried putting him on, but his non-detachable cape hindered that scheme, so he settled for posing in front like it was his Harley. I think a six inch figure would fit nicely though. The Final Verdict Design: 10/10 Two models that, at a glance, really capture the movie counterparts to scale. The designs are complicated in a way that goes far over my head. Build: 8/10 It's a good build. Most of the time I don't know what I'm making, which end is up, etc, until it comes together at the end. But it is complicated in a way that I don't learn anything from it. Playability: 9/10 The second build makes a lot of the points for this one. Once built, the pit droid works fine, but I can just imagine a kid pretending to make the droid repair a pod racer. The speeder bike, though, fits in your hand great, and would work well with other toy lines. Price: 8/10 $20 today would be great for a set like this, and is a fair price for it back then too. Overall: 8/10 This is a solid, if underwhelming set. Since the last Technic set I built was the super complicated destroyer droid, this was a cakewalk to put together; not much time, not much stress. I can't recommend you track it down unless you are a big Technic fan though. Why Lego chose to make robots, and later characters, out of Technic rather than vehicles is beyond me. The later Stormtrooper and other sets were plain ugly. Instead, they could have made speeders or A-Wings. Within the series though, the first line up, of the destroyer droid, battle droid and pit droid looked the most correct. An interesting part of early Lego Star Wars memorabilia.

Welcome to Eurobricks. I don't know you outside of what you've posted here, but you seem to know you're stuff. def-(merely a regular MOC fan, not an obsessive one)

Can you put your palm in my face too? I don't have that set either. Big Cam, I guess YG-49 is the king for the day. I guess we have to live with it.

I love this set, it's my first and only Agents set, but the mech design, the mini-figs, everything is a class act.

Since Agents were pretty much unavailable in Japan, I only got my first set last December on my trip to Canada, and I have to say, it's a fun, well-designed series. This is an interesting set, thanks for the comprehensive review... But no poll?

There's zero, even if you upload. But happily, if you upload you can still link to it, assuming you know the proper web address. (did it and and tested it, as part of my next review) For me, something more frustrating has come up though. For the last week it hasn't been able to upload zip files, so I had to do them a pic at a time, which is an utter waste of time. Anyone else notice this?

I'm very happy to see this post. I was going to reply to the one you did saying something similar, but was worried a mod might come in and shut it down and prove me wrong I totally think the admin have the final word, but it's healthy for a forum to allow the users join in the discussion about the place they frequent once in a while. Yes, very glad to see this post indeed.

Very lovely MOC, you do the whole Indy line justice. I love your Toht, who I always used to think was named Toad