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Agree, this engine will be a nice complement to the red/silver Sante Fe engine from 2002. Since there are no printed bricks, it will be easy to customize with stickers. This is the ONE TIME I wish the order limit was higher on the BDP program. Assuming (hoping) the price will come in around $150.

Yes, it’s the Sante Fe freight engine paint scheme.

Cool!! As long as Lego doesn't somehow ruin it in the "refining" stage, I'll definitely get the two set limit.

Interesting collection of minifigs, $170 for the set is a lot just to get the space minifigs. I don't find the rest that interesting, and somehow no Redbeard minifig, which was prominently shown in the image of the winning submission?? Any rate, I think this was discussed earlier, but are the space minifig parts likely to show up at PAB so they can be purchased separately to build your own?

Yes, says the GWP is available through 5/23 or while supplies last. Wonder if it will be gone quickly like the Micro Launchpad from last year? Resellers have listings on e-bay for $50 and up. Will be interesting to see how popular this GWP is.

The "retro" spaceships are "one-offs", so it makes sense to me that they have a shorter run. People who want them are going to buy them, but there's nothing to add to them (other related sets). Unlike themes that get multiple sets in the theme (City, Friends, etc.) where parents buy one set for a gift, then another at the next occasion, and maybe the kid gets some money and picks out another set, so all the sets support each other and you have ongoing sales. Couple that with the fact that there is a LOT more turnover in Lego offerings from year to year than there was 20+ years ago, and you end up with shorter life spans for many sets. There are always exceptions for very popular sets as has been mentioned or other reasons only Lego knows. I think GE was reasonably popular, but it ran its course. I got three sets when Walmart had them on clearance at the end, but it was for online sales only. Is the BR set carried in any big box stores? If not, that probably contributes to lower sales = shorter run.

I saw a news item in the last year that Lego is moving toward all PAB parts being available as "best seller" in regions they deliver to, so there won't be two categories any more. I don't know where I saw this, if it was Brickset or here on Eurobricks, or the Lego site. I believe this is already the case in Australia? So, Lego is moving toward there not being two orders for parts. As it is, I usually wait until I need enough parts to clear the service fee and free shipping thresholds before placing an order. Agree if you want one minifig or just a few parts buying a set or finding things on Bricklink can be cheaper than PAB. Yes, sorry, I confused the two. It's $14 to waive the service fee and $35 to get free shipping.

It's just like any other online retailer where you need a minimum purchase to get free shipping. For PAB USA the minimum is $14.

Thanks for pointing that out, interesting. So, as expected, any train wheel going over that section lifts the platform and the rocks fall on the train. Might have been "nicer" if instead of gray "rocks" there had been white "snow" falling from the top of the tunnel. That seems less dangerous for the train passengers than falling boulders!

Thanks for the closeup pictures. I'm not clear how the rocks are waiting to fall until after the train has passed through??? Maybe in reality the rocks fall on the train, and then it needs to be re-railed after being knocked off the track? Agree, it looks very incomplete. As you say more like a starting point. Lots of interesting parts (particularly the screw driven elevator) that could be used for a larger build. I feel like you'd have to buy at least two of these to make a decent looking "station" for a train layout. Even if you just built two mirror images of this set and put them back to back, I think it would be much more appealing. The vehicles they include with these stations are getting smaller and smaller - to the point where they should just use the parts on something else in the build. Hard tho think anyone is going to buy this station that doesn't also have a train set. As a stand alone set, it's not much.

Is it likely those parts will show up on PAB? Probably cheaper to buy them there and get as many as you want.

Yeah, that one's not for me. Not seeing any uncommon parts or building techniques on the subway car, and I won't pay the higher price this will have for all the unwanted minifigs and Marvel license.

Nice, looks like no stickers???

Yes, past several freight sets have had three "wagons" or freight cars, while passenger sets have had two cars. This looks like a mixed passenger/freight set similar to some of the late 9V sets. Since City sets are aimed at children, play value is the main consideration, I assume. Obviously Lego decided adding a small platform/crane and a tunnel had more play value than adding another train car. The whole thing looks intriguing and new/different. I can wait to get one (or two)!

Very nice and helpful, thanks for doing the work and sharing the link! As a fellow Mac user, this is a great option for basic layout design. I guess the "next level" would be some facility to put dimensions on the layout so one could set the size/dimensions the layout needs to stay within (like just drawing a box for table size), and then you can "play" with layout ideas within that.

WOW, very, very cool. What will the minimum track radius be? Any idea of total part count?

Leaked image on Redit shows an "Explorer Train" set 60470 with PowerUp system. So, seems like PU is continuing...

Agree, and since the set includes PowerUp, it appears PowerUp is continuing. Lots of speculation in a separate thread about whether PowerUp was retiring given many parts being out of stock for a long time over the past year or so.

I think the track piece with the smooth section in the center is a re-railing track that could double as a road crossing piece. No idea what the other new track piece is for, but suspect it triggers some kind of action. It's an interesting train. I'll probably get it, but depends on price. Not sure where it will fit in with my 9V trains, or if it will need to be something "separate" from the 9V layout.

Yes, but once in a while the status goes from "Temporarily Out of Stock" to "Sold Out" or "Retired" without ever coming back in stock. Personally, I am not expecting the PUp train motors to come back. They have been out of stock for a very long time. I suspect Lego does not want to announce they are "retired" until they have announced the replacement (assuming there will be one), and also to not hinder sales of train sets that have the PUp motor included. Other evidence of PUp's retirement is the clearance sales on PUp components some regions have seen. I mean, I could be totally wrong, but I just don't see any evidence Lego is continuing PUp.

Agree, but now that Lego has done the Blacktron set, I can't see them releasing anything CS until the one minifig in the Ideas bubble gum machine set. After that????

Agree it's a cute little set, but I agree with Brick Ranker's comment that some features of the original submission were better. Prefer the roller coaster track of the original submission over the brick built track. Also would liked to have the large radar dish over the smaller, solid one. We'll see cost on this is...

Thanks for finding that nugget and posting. I subscribe to his channel, but he posts so many videos it's hard to keep up. Makes me wonder if this agreement is still in force? The current City space theme still seems to be grounded in our Solar System, so it would fit the terms of the agreement with Lucasfilm (now Disney).

Definitely an improvement over the original. Well done!

Yeah, I guess the positive side is, it gives me motivation to work on building MOC cars/engines for my layout rather than spending a lot of $$ on a new set where I'm only interested in some of the components (the train itself).