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It's just like any other online retailer where you need a minimum purchase to get free shipping. For PAB USA the minimum is $14.

Thanks for pointing that out, interesting. So, as expected, any train wheel going over that section lifts the platform and the rocks fall on the train. Might have been "nicer" if instead of gray "rocks" there had been white "snow" falling from the top of the tunnel. That seems less dangerous for the train passengers than falling boulders!

Thanks for the closeup pictures. I'm not clear how the rocks are waiting to fall until after the train has passed through??? Maybe in reality the rocks fall on the train, and then it needs to be re-railed after being knocked off the track? Agree, it looks very incomplete. As you say more like a starting point. Lots of interesting parts (particularly the screw driven elevator) that could be used for a larger build. I feel like you'd have to buy at least two of these to make a decent looking "station" for a train layout. Even if you just built two mirror images of this set and put them back to back, I think it would be much more appealing. The vehicles they include with these stations are getting smaller and smaller - to the point where they should just use the parts on something else in the build. Hard tho think anyone is going to buy this station that doesn't also have a train set. As a stand alone set, it's not much.

Is it likely those parts will show up on PAB? Probably cheaper to buy them there and get as many as you want.

Yeah, that one's not for me. Not seeing any uncommon parts or building techniques on the subway car, and I won't pay the higher price this will have for all the unwanted minifigs and Marvel license.

Nice, looks like no stickers???

Yes, past several freight sets have had three "wagons" or freight cars, while passenger sets have had two cars. This looks like a mixed passenger/freight set similar to some of the late 9V sets. Since City sets are aimed at children, play value is the main consideration, I assume. Obviously Lego decided adding a small platform/crane and a tunnel had more play value than adding another train car. The whole thing looks intriguing and new/different. I can wait to get one (or two)!

Very nice and helpful, thanks for doing the work and sharing the link! As a fellow Mac user, this is a great option for basic layout design. I guess the "next level" would be some facility to put dimensions on the layout so one could set the size/dimensions the layout needs to stay within (like just drawing a box for table size), and then you can "play" with layout ideas within that.

WOW, very, very cool. What will the minimum track radius be? Any idea of total part count?

Leaked image on Redit shows an "Explorer Train" set 60470 with PowerUp system. So, seems like PU is continuing...

Agree, and since the set includes PowerUp, it appears PowerUp is continuing. Lots of speculation in a separate thread about whether PowerUp was retiring given many parts being out of stock for a long time over the past year or so.

I think the track piece with the smooth section in the center is a re-railing track that could double as a road crossing piece. No idea what the other new track piece is for, but suspect it triggers some kind of action. It's an interesting train. I'll probably get it, but depends on price. Not sure where it will fit in with my 9V trains, or if it will need to be something "separate" from the 9V layout.

Yes, but once in a while the status goes from "Temporarily Out of Stock" to "Sold Out" or "Retired" without ever coming back in stock. Personally, I am not expecting the PUp train motors to come back. They have been out of stock for a very long time. I suspect Lego does not want to announce they are "retired" until they have announced the replacement (assuming there will be one), and also to not hinder sales of train sets that have the PUp motor included. Other evidence of PUp's retirement is the clearance sales on PUp components some regions have seen. I mean, I could be totally wrong, but I just don't see any evidence Lego is continuing PUp.

Agree, but now that Lego has done the Blacktron set, I can't see them releasing anything CS until the one minifig in the Ideas bubble gum machine set. After that????

Agree it's a cute little set, but I agree with Brick Ranker's comment that some features of the original submission were better. Prefer the roller coaster track of the original submission over the brick built track. Also would liked to have the large radar dish over the smaller, solid one. We'll see cost on this is...

Thanks for finding that nugget and posting. I subscribe to his channel, but he posts so many videos it's hard to keep up. Makes me wonder if this agreement is still in force? The current City space theme still seems to be grounded in our Solar System, so it would fit the terms of the agreement with Lucasfilm (now Disney).

Definitely an improvement over the original. Well done!

Yeah, I guess the positive side is, it gives me motivation to work on building MOC cars/engines for my layout rather than spending a lot of $$ on a new set where I'm only interested in some of the components (the train itself).

I'm just going on what @kbalage stated in his video. That he actually talked to the designer about how/why the set was expanded. I'm unclear why you think this came from the designer when the original submission did not have the extra parts? Not trying to "blame" anyone, just wondering about the rationale to make this set bigger and thus more expensive that what the original submission would have been. Let's face it, had this been a train only with the option to motorize, it likely would have sold out by now. I think the high price is a part of what's holding sales back.

If you look at the review by @kbalage posted on YouTube, he states he talked with the set designer for the Wild West Train and changes to the set were made by him in conjunction with Lego designers. If I understood him correctly, an additional train car was added just because Lego track comes in packs of 4. The original design fit on 7 track sections, but Lego would be including 8 because that's how they are packaged. That did not have to impact the design of the set other than the extra track, but Lego & the designer decided to add another train car to fill the 8 sections, add minifigures and additional horses = 500 more pieces and the commensurate increase in cost/price. I very much doubt a BDP designer can unilaterally change/add to an approved submission without approval/consultation/collaboration/input from Lego. We are all aware Lego owns Bricklink, right?

IMO, I don't think there's any doubt there is an AFOL fan base. However, Lego chose to make this the most expensive BDP set in this round. According to one of the reviews, the additions after the initial design added about 500 pieces, which roughly translates into $50 more than it would have been had the original design been followed. I have not seen much movement in the number of pre-orders for the past several hours, so this one may have stalled out. I wish the design and sales well, but I feel like Lego did not improve this set or its potential sales with the alterations.

Thanks for posting that. His other video reviewing the set itself was also a worthwhile watch. Decided not to get this set for multiple reasons, not the least of which is price. Looks like no more trains in the pipeline at BDP, so hoping we get some train items as regular Lego sets this year!

Detailed review of the BDP Wild West Train with lots of photos on Brickset. I did not realize this set was 8 wide, but it's now obvious with all the phtos. https://brickset.com/article/118397/review-910044-wild-west-train For me, I'm still on the fence. Not sure I will buy this set. Eight wide was another strike against it for me.

Brickset posted a detailed review of the Wild West Train with lots of photos. Very helpful to get a sense of this set before ordering if you are still deciding. https://brickset.com/article/118397/review-910044-wild-west-train

Both motors appear to be 6 wide, so not useful for standard 6 wide train dimensions. Also, the controller looks to be two rotating three-position switches, so presumably ON (forward)-OFF-ON (reverse) functions with no speed control. So to me, this system does not look usable for trains. However, what is interesting is battery/controller/motor technology seems to have advanced to a point where 1. battery, motor, wireless communication are all in one box. 2. rechargeable battery life is sufficient such that it can be sealed in the motor box and charged via USB, like a cell phone. So..... the question is, will Lego switch all of its power systems to this new system or will it maintain two completely different power systems (this new one for Education and Power Up)? I'm very skeptical that Lego will maintain/market two completely different power systems. However, to use this new system for trains we will need a variable speed controller, and a 4 wide motor with two axles (in black of course!). Maybe that's coming too?? By the way, the U.S. Lego education press release has a clear picture of the kit showing the two motors from the top, the controller and the separate sensor. https://www.lego.com/en-us/aboutus/news/2025/january/lego-education-science?locale=en-us The motor with the "transverse" axle is 6x10, while the smaller motor with the longitudinal axle is 6x6, but it really looks like it is 4x6 with two 1x4 technic bricks molded into the sides. So, the functional part of the motor which houses motor/battery/controller is really only 4x6. It would seem to be very easy for Lego to make a 4x12 train motor with this system!