Flawless Cowboy

Bro, Lego is and always will be about sets, not minifigures. Buying a battlepack for the figs? Sure that makes sense. Buying a $170 for the figs? Now that’s ridiculous.

We’ll know in a matter of hours whether this is a trick or not, deep breaths everyone

On the other hand, isn’t it mind-boggling that Lego doesn’t…you know…make the most demanded sets and figs? And print money? As a for-profit company? I don’t believe the rumors but I’m also stunned at Lego‘s refusal to make some brain dead easy money. I’ve convinced myself into believing some of the old head designers just don’t feel like making them.

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I wonder, if true, how they’ll be able to make a gunship with 1,083 without it looking underwhelming.

Out of the three April Fools sets, the only one that makes sense from a price/piece/minifigure standpoint is the Ghost. A future gunship is not going to have less pieces than its 2013 counterpart. And the $650 Venator has ~500 more pieces than the ISD while costing $50 less…not happening.

The only location sets that can equal or improve upon the level of detail of the diorama sets are MBS sets, which I also desperately want, and can’t believe we haven’t gotten since the Cantina in 2020. Lego’s non-adult location sets have been very few and far in between but they usually don’t look that visually impressive to me. Hopefully Yavin IV impresses. I believe it’s roughly the same piece count as Vader’s Castle in 2019, which is a good gauge for size and scope.

Imo the diorama sets offer a granular level of detail that the play sets don’t. They also tend to represent “places” rather than ships, something sorely missing from the LSW lineup, along with MBS. That’s the main appeal to me.

At this point I just wanna know what the $650 set is lol

Gahhh someone leak the Battle of Endor MBS set already (I’m coping but hoping)

Part of the problem is the designers don’t always know what’s going to be a “big deal” and what isn’t for new shows. On paper, Cad Bane’s personal ship sounds like a big enough deal to turn it into a $170 set…until it turns out to be on screen for all of three minutes

I agree. Lego’s play sets have skyrocketed in quality in the past few years. The snubfighter and spider tank look superb, but I feel no one in five years is going to look back and think “wow! Sick Vane’s pirate’s snubfighter!” or recall the 10 second duel between Bo Katan and the Spider tank (which is missing its driver). Conversely, the sets I wish Lego went all-out on were the ones they butchered in the past few years (BB shuttle, Mando’s starfighters). Really hoping the fang fighter and tie interceptor deliver.

I’ll be honest, Resistance was so niche I had to look it up, first time I’ve seen anyone mention it. But you’re right.

Complete misread of my post, check your glasses. I never used fandom opinion to both uphold the prequels and lambast the sequels, as I explained earlier, fan opinions do not decide artistic merit, full stop, but they do decide whether or not Disney makes more sequel content in the form of toys and shows. Fan opinion decides where money moves, which was the only reason I brought it up in regards to the sequels, as I don’t believe they are loved enough to warrant the same attention, toy-wise, that prequels get. 8 years after TPM we already had Clone Wars (2003) and Clone Wars (2008) was in full production. Both overlap with the prequels. Not a single major overlapping show has been made or is being made alongside the sequels that even rivals Tartokovsky’s small series.

I never said they don’t have value. Your reading comprehension is depressingly poor. Anyhow, this is getting off topic.

Absolutely stating my own opinion here, just pointing out the criticism of “well a lot of fans dislike it” is weak when it comes to judging cinema. My arguments against the sequels draw on public response because love for the sequels, sequel toys (including Lego), and sequel series depend on public response, rather than the artistic merits of the films. If there’s no market, there will be no products, and I don’t see a market. As to Lego Star Wars, I think the breakdown of the helmets series, which are rumored to be over, is a perfect illustration of how they distribute their priorities. 11 helmets, 7 OT, 2 clone wars, and 2 Mando.

Wholeheartedly disagree on all counts. Lucas’ films imo are all more or less on par with each other (and unlike the sequels, and perhaps most importantly, follow a single, cohesive vision) and any criticism levied towards the prequels could equally apply to the OT. Fans who are illiterate to the art of film making and film history shouldn’t be the final authority on what makes a film good or bad, it’s the unfortunate side effect of the entertainment industry that the loudest critics in film/literature/gaming are not the same people who make or understand them. Also, forgive the hyperbolic statement here, but there are no kids who grew up loving the sequels, as evidenced by the complete bombing of sequel-related toys and lack of series that overlap with the sequels. There is no burning desire to “redeem” the sequels with a Clone Wars series. It’s been 8 years since TFA. If the sequels were to age like the prequels in the eyes of the masses, we are way overdue a change in opinion.

Can’t see that happening. The sequels were not only critical bombs in the eyes of fans, but their toys don’t sell well, and this isn’t exclusive to Lego. I have a feeling much of this is due to the redundancy of sequel vs OT design (why would the average person want a first order tie fighter or a resistance x wing when they could get the far more iconic OT version?). The other reason, personally, and this is uncomfortable to hear by many, is that the prequels are good.

Most people buying UCS sets are going to be older fans in general simply due to cost, rather than source material. Play sets are more affordable, and generally have simplistic designs catered towards younger audiences. I’d wager most adults would prefer a UCS gunship even if it’s not minifig scale because any playscale gunship will look vastly inferior to the UCS version, hampered by play functions and more primitive building techniques.

Lego turned the Justifier into a $170 shelf warmer, anything is possible Disproven by the recent Razor Crest UCS which also has a playset version on shelves. $400 vs $160ish isn’t remotely close to most consumers. Also, the gunship is retiring this fall so it’s a moot point altogether, there would hardly be any overlap.

He has a remarkable ability of stretching a bunch of nothing into a ten minute video. I was in the same boat until I decided that I was only going to buy the sets that would look good on my shelf in five years. Which limits me to the gunship and the AT-TE, all the other droid and clone sets in the past three years look <insert that tiresome argument>. Call me a pessimist, but I sincerely doubt MandR was the greatest influence behind the 501st battlepack. It’s not like it dropped out of nowhere, it was part of a wave of season 7 clone sets. Also, the community was asking for a more affordable $15-$20 dollar battlepack, not a $30 “mega” pack with two large, disposable side builds inflating the price of the set. I think it would have been made either way.

Don’t know anything about Marvel, but there are zero ‘03 toys with 20th anniversary labels across three toy manufacturers. Pretty sure that closes the book.

Again, the clone wars logo encompasses the entirety of the clone wars, not the ‘03 show, Hasbro and hot toys and Lego are just following Disney marketing, and my point stands that it is (personally) disappointing to me that Lego chose video game clones for (yet another) 501st battle pack. Believe me, I’d LOVE a Muunilist gunship from the ‘03 show, but I doubt we’ll ever see another Lego set based on that show again.

Strongly agree. The quality of these play sets, for the first time, feels high enough to display alongside UCS sets.

Sigh. No. Disney is not celebrating the ‘03 Clone Wars show because it’s not canon and it’s too niche by their standards. There hasn’t been a single ‘03 product tied to this branding. There’s zero proof of a connection to the Tartokovsky series, it’s an umbrella anniversary for anything related to clones.