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FABUpunk! Mafia II–Day Five, It Was a Mistake
Vincent Denis replied to Hinckley's topic in LEGO Mafia and Role-Play Games
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FABUpunk! Mafia II–Day Five, It Was a Mistake
Vincent Denis replied to Hinckley's topic in LEGO Mafia and Role-Play Games
*Fwom fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom* Scara-Moosh! Scara-Moosh! *Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom* -
Yay! And will the conclusion be ready right when the day ends? *Fwooooooooooooooooooooooom*
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And finally, finally, I've come to the conclusion that if Peter were Town, Andrew would've just voted for him along with Fred, me and "Scum-buddy" Emmett to lynch him and the game would've been over. He would've claimed his block was unsuccessful to implicate Peter as Aiden's killer and led us all to believe that he was on team Town, handing over Peter as the Scum killer, then enjoyed his win with Emmett today. But he didn't. He went after me when Peter was on the chopping block. *Fwomma fwom*
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I think it's important to point out that while Andrew was fighting for me to be lynched, nobody had even voted for him yet. He was starting his fight as you, Peter, were being lynched. *Fwomma fwom* And now's the time, the time is now "Fwomma fwom*
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Ah, blah blah blah. I get it. Fred would've blocked hypothetical Scum Emmett in a fictional tonight. Yeah yeah yeah. But maybe he'd get the same strongarm you got...if he was Scum. Then Emmett really should've pinned the kill on someone and he and Andrew had a brain between them, Andrew would've said his block was unsuccessful and Emmett would've said he tracked you killing Aiden and that would've been a lot quicker and cleaner than choosing the path of sitting around today with a lame tracking result on me to go on. And you're right. I'm obviously not on the same side as Andrew as he tried to get me lynched and that was his gambit to win. For the record, I'm on nobody's side. I'm neutral. But you've known that since Night One, somehow. When Andrew wasn't gaining traction on me, he tried to rope Emmett into that as well while trying to paint you as a victim. Knowing he's Scum, he obviously didn't think you were "Poor Peter" that a lynch got started on before Andrew could make it to the day thread and tell us the truth. If we're going to decide this on who Andrew tried to lynch, we should also decide this on who he was trying to protect and portray as an unfortunate victim of my evil Scum game. So, I'm 99% set on keeping my vote where it is. *Fwom fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom* Ramble on! *Fwom fwom, fwom fwom, fwom fwom, fwom fwom! Fwom fwom fwom!*
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*Fwom fwom— Pirates Mafia III? Is this still a thing? I guess I wouldn't be playing the tuba otherwise. Right, not Night Three. As it's clear now, the only place the kill had gone on that night was that the Scum actively chose not to use it. I think what happened is they wanted to kill on the nights that you were blocked but Robin stopped you from killing Emmett. That's the only thing that makes sense, because otherwise, you'd be the only person alive who was blocked on those two nights. Interesting, that. Either way, I believe Trenton was the killer on those nights and ended up killing Robin when it became clear he was choosing Emmett as a protection target every night. Why would an Emmett Scum team kill a protector who repeatedly protected Emmett and told Emmett he thought he was the most important person in the game? Now, your supposed Psychologist targets Justin, Fred, Aiden sound more like good frame targets for the Scum. Day Two, you made a case against Fred regarding his request that everybody voice their opinion on having a lynch, then not voicing his opinion. Fred told us he was unsuccessful at his Action on Night One. Since Remi was killed on Night One, and your interpretation of your Action was that it wouldn't catch a Scum with a role—only goons who can pass around the kill—why did you target Fred? Dear Lord, I've written two paragraphs based on one of your sentences! How do you guys stand me? I have more, though. I don't think the Scum had the strongarm kill all along. I think you just got it last night. If the Town was given one, which was used to kill another Townie—albeit the worst Townie in the history of Townies—then the Scum would likely be given one at endgame. That way you get a fighting chance to win today. It'd be impossible with Fred still here and you needed Emmett to pin it on and you can't kill me. Right, because drawing this out into nine 96-hour days is fun. Knowing Emmett, he would've ended it yesterday and said a Townie (or I) killed Aiden. Emmett's targets are terribly inconvenient for a Scum pretending to be a Townie. They don't give anybody else anything conclusive. If he was Scum, he would've given us a definitive result on Aiden or Fred's killer. I don't buy that killing Fred and tracking me was Emmett's only play. He should've said that I killed Aiden on Night Seven. Then there wouldn't be a today or Night Eight. Even with last night's results, his best play would've been to not kill anybody with Fred blocking you. We'd lynch you, he'd win. Fred didn't need to be dead for that. And, it seems to me, that Fred trust Emmett much more than you anyway. That was Emmett's best play as Scum. Strongarm killing Fred and trying to pin it on Emmett, I think, was your only play. If I were Emmett, I probably would've tracked me. You were being blocked. You were supposedly taken care of. There was no reason not to try to verify any remaining suspicions he had on me. It's what a Townie should do, attempt to cover all bases. Peter, assuming I'm right and you're Scum, I respect you sticking around to fight. I very much respect that the story you're going with would be absolutely true if Emmett were Scum. Great job, there. I apologize if I have it wrong, but I don't think I do. Emmett, if you're Scum, you're mean. Why'd you put us through an extra day of this if you could've ended it yesterday? Also, that would be ludicrously diabolical and totally unnecessary but you'd deserve the win in that case, as much as I'd hate to reward the bad behavior of drawing it out. *Fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom, fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwoooooom* Thanks to you I'm much obliged, for such a pleasant stay *Fwom fwomma fwomma fwomma fwoooooom, fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwoooooooooom*
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*Fwom fwom fwomma fwom* OK, let me try to spell this out. You didn't mention it today. My point is the only indication I had that Fred said he sent in his Night Action to block Peter was a quote from you. I don't even remember if it was a direct quote or not. Either way, yes, you did tell me. That's literally what I said (parenthetically) in the post where you quoted me. What you didn't say today was "How would Peter have killed Fred if he was being blocked?" In my experience, the kill happens last in the order of Night Actions so if Fred blocked Peter he shouldn't have been able to kill, even if he was targeting Fred. Andrew said he asked Bob about blockers blocking each other and said Bob said it would be a coin flip. Somewhere along the line, people conflated that with blocker vs. killer would also be decided that way. I don't think so. If Peter is Scum, he used a strongarm kill or he was given both a block and a kill. The kill passing along isn't even a Mafia Scum thing, as far as I know, it's standard EB Mafia setup. As for not revealing my role, I was trying to get killed and I don't think it ever worked. If Andrew was Scum, he would've known I was protected by Daniel on Night Three when there was no kill, so I think the Scum stayed home that night to implicate Fabien, Justin and me. I think they tried to kill you, once Peter was being blocked, but you had Robin perpetually protecting to you, since he was stuck with you as his only protection target. Notice Robin was the first successful kill after Night Three. They didn't know who he was protecting, so to ensure a kill they went for the protector and judging by Andrew's response, they thought they would've won, except for pesky little neutral me. *Fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom*
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*Fwom fwomma fwomma fwom* Now am I going to place a simple vote or am I going to make a big dramatic show of it? Hmmmmmmmmmm... So, I'm going to write a play. A musical with tuba accompaniment. Wait, no I'm not. Let's start with Emmett. Emmett may be the Scummiest player left in his general attiturde and supposed non-familiarity with EB Mafia standards. "Lynching the killer would stop the kill." "I fully reject the idea of a Scum tracker." I know it's been a while since you've played, but does memory serve you as the opposite of the reality you lived 8 years ago?? His resistance to lynch Peter yesterday really pinged me. It is true that he could've lied about being blocked and actually killed Aiden. Also, he could've lied today about tracking me, it wouldn't be hard to guess that I don't do anything, since if he's Scum he knows I'm not and therefore have no reason to lie about my role. But, with Andrew being Scum (GLOAT!!!) and us still being around today that means there were two Scum yesterday. Emmett was in a position to say I targeted Aiden and get everyone to lynch me. Andrew was certainly trying to convince everyone to lynch me. I'm operating under the assumption that with no kill on a night when Emmett was protected and Peter was blocked, that the Scum tried to kill Emmett. Since Andrew admitted to forgetting the possibility of Robin potentially being a seraph knight, it's possible they tried to kill Emmett with Trenton on both nights Peter was blocked in order to free Peter from suspicion. If Emmett is a tracker, then they wouldn't want him around as he's the most likely to catch Scum in the act of killing. When Trenton was tracked by Emmett targeting nobody, I'm relatively confident, it's because Robin's protection stopped the kill and therefore Trenton did target nobody, but only because his kill was unsuccessful. Now, Fred. Wait, no. The other beard. Now, Peter. In order to believe Peter is Scum, I have to believe Emmett is telling the truth and vice versa. Peter told us he was blocked last night but the only corroboration we had on that was from Andrew, who admitted to Vanillljliaieuzxswing him. There were plenty of opportunities for Andrew to lie about blocking Peter and allow Peter to kill. Emmett reporting being blocked when Peter claims to also have been blocked (and now we know that one of our blockers has been Scum the whole time), points to Andrew blocking Emmett, freeing up Peter to kill. Again, Andrew chose Emmett and me to go after yesterday, leaving "Poor Peter" in his Town column, only voicing suspicion of him when I pressed him about it. Andrew would know damn well if Peter would be Scum or not, so his ruminating over him possibly being Scum, but definitely not the killer doesn't hold much weight today. Andrew also had the chance to lynch Peter on Day Six and opted for Aiden instead. Add to that Peter's vote for Andrew yesterday. If Peter was Town and thought Emmett was Scum, he shouldn't have voted for Andrew if he thought Emmett was lying about being blocked. He should've stuck to Emmett. It looks more like he voted for a Scum buddy to distance himself. Then, he concluded the day with this: He sets up that if anybody is dead, then Emmett must be Scum, which makes me think he had a strongarm kill. Town had one, Scum should have one, especially if he's the last Scum. If Emmett was Scum today, he'd say "I tracked [Peter or Vincent]. He killed Fred. Let's lynch him and his stupid [beard or tuba]." It would've made it a lot easier for me to choose between these two! While I'm slightly disturbed that Emmett never mentioned that we knew Fred was blocking Peter (at least that's what Emmett tells me ... ) and there was a kill anyway, he does claim to have tracked me targeting nobody and if he's telling the truth about his Action, then he knows he's not the killer and I'm not the killer, so there's only Fred Peter left. If Emmett is Scum, then he played a diabolically patient game where he chose to never manipulate the Town's belief that he was a Tracker. He could've had me lynched yesterday. My claim of "Neutral Bulleproof Survivor" wouldn't have stood up to a supposed tracking result showing me targeting Aiden. Same goes for today. He could've lynched me or Peter easily by reporting tracking us and seeing that we targeted Fred. That's diabolical to not give us any information that would cause a definite lynch at 1:1:1. If that's the game he chose, then he deserves to win because it's insane. Plus, I'd get to win with him, so whatevs. Is anybody even still reading this or are you just waiting for me to place a vote? Vote: Fred Dumont Shit. Unvote: Fred Dumont Vote: Peter Lyon *Fwom fwom fwom, fwom fwom fwom* Spinnin' wheel's got to go round, *Fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom, fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwoooooom fwoooooooooom*
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*Fwooooooooooma fwom fwom fwom, fwom fwom!* Hey, everybody! Remember this? You don't? Because it was like nine months ago? Well, it was the first vote I placed in the game. I was suspicious of him for a few days but it got lost in a terrible noise. Remember that terrible noise that used to fill the fort? What was that? Oh, yeah, I remember what it was. Do you remember this? And then four more days of that? Except they were like 5-6 times longer than that each time? Remember? Well, guess what!!!! I was fucking right with my very first post in the game and the suspicion I ran with up until Justin flipped Town. Or, rather, before that a bit since Andrew seemed to be part of the Town block or whatever. It's all a blurry fog cloud mist horrible vortex of bad memories. I was right! *Fwooooooom* I was right! *Fwooooooom* I was right! *Fwooooooom* I was right! *Fwooooooom* I was right! *Fwooooooom* I was right! *Fwooooooom* I was right! *Fwooooooom* I was right! *Fwooooooom* I was right! *Fwooooooom* I was right! *Fwooooooom* I was right! *Fwooooooom* What do you mean gloating isn't becoming? I was right! I don't care, I'm gloating. Anyway, back to business. Peter, Emmett, golly gosh kids, what the fuck do you think happened last night? More, importantly, who wants to hear a tuba celebration? *Fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom* A celebration to last throughout the year? *Fwom fwomma fwomma! Fwomma fwom fwom fwom, fwom fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwomma fwom fwom*
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Pirates Mafia III - Night Time
Vincent Denis replied to Bob's topic in LEGO Mafia and Role-Play Games
Ooooooh, it's beautiful! Wait a minute, the aurora borealis in the Carribean? It's the Apocalypse! *Fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom, fwomma fwomma* It's the end of the world as we know it. *Fwom fwoooooom fwooooooom fwoooooooooom...Fwom fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom, fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom* Or is it? Hello? -
Pirates Mafia III - Day Eight
Vincent Denis replied to Bob's topic in LEGO Mafia and Role-Play Games
Not sure what those odds would be. Let's debate this in the conclusion. *Fwomma fwomma fwom* -
Pirates Mafia III - Day Eight
Vincent Denis replied to Bob's topic in LEGO Mafia and Role-Play Games
Please, board software, don't merge these posts and make me another massive wall of text. Please? You're off a bit on this. The earliest I can remember it being established that the Scum kill passes on, endlessly, is after Baritones 2, which was hosted by this one guy, Hinkey, or something like that. And there was this one Scum, I think his name was Chad-O, he was the last Scum in the game and Hinkey didn't let him inherit the kill. He only let him poop on people's doorsteps. And then he left a clue to the other players that Chad-O had a jar of fiber in his stuff and people still didn't get that he was the pooper and he won the game anyway by being a master manipulator. I seem to remember Chad-O stating the opposite argument that you are, right now, to Hinkey in the conclusion that the Scum kill is always passed on. For a long time, it was standard to give the last Scum a block and a kill and then people took their fiber over that one! And now we're back to the kill being inherited, no matter how many times the killer is lynched and the scum always always always have a night kill. Unless we're in Star Trek land and there are no Night Actions. I would suggest your memory is broken before I believe EB Mafia is broken. *Fwomma fwomma fwom, fwomma fwom* Pretending you've got a sliver! *Fwomma fwomma fwom, fwomma fwom, fwom fwomma fwomma fwomma* -
Pirates Mafia III - Day Eight
Vincent Denis replied to Bob's topic in LEGO Mafia and Role-Play Games
*Fwom fwom fwom fwom* No, no. What I was pointing out was your lackluster backup when I said you knew I was running the gambit. It's kind of like when you PMed me on Night Four and started the conversation with "If we're right about Justin, who's next on your hit list?" Emphasis added, because then you started Day Five by saying this: Even though you take ownership of the Justin lynch via PM, you start the Day by accusing me of being Scum since he flipped Town. We lynch Fabien and again, you think he's Scum. But you want to keep him around to keep the kill locked. Or maybe you knew he'd be a good distraction for the Town if he continued to be in the game. But you say you're convinced he's Scum, but again, he flips Town and you go after me. Again, after a night of talking strategy. I claim and offer to be lynched and you say this: So, you were with me, even though you said that before and after your first post on Day Five where you were trying to suggest that Justin flipping Town meant I was Scum. Even your "Vincent and Fabien are clearly on opposite teams." I'm opposite to all teams, by the way. I'm neutral. You even tried to throw back to it at one point as if Fabien flipping Town also implicated me, somehow. But you don't say it. You do wait to see if other people will give it any momentum, because in the same post: You make a case against me and then admit that I wasn't blocked. Then ask if anybody else can think of any way I can be Scum. Then you continue to talk strategy with me every night and the Night Action plan. It seems to me, now, like you were trying to get me to talk about the Night Action plan so you can come back later and say "Vincent knew the Night Action plan! He manipulated it."-which you did do today. After making several statements where you believed my Survivor claim, now suddenly I'm the Scum killer. It's like you buddy up to me at night and then accuse me at the start of each day and then drop it when nobody else follows you. In this game, anything is obviously possible, so maybe you're Town. Maybe. But I doubt it. If you are then I've been wrong about every suspicion in this game. That will make me feel sucky. But after analyzing the voting patterns, the Night Actions and your behavior, you seem really really really Scummy. And the fact that you're still not asking why Peter would vote for you when he should be able to verify your blocking claim and just digging into me being the killer, which I know I'm not, it's hard to take anything you say seriously. *Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom* -
Pirates Mafia III - Day Eight
Vincent Denis replied to Bob's topic in LEGO Mafia and Role-Play Games
*Fwom fwomma fwom— Can I just log in as you two and play a better Scum game, please? Your line should be "What? Peter! You must be Scum if you're voting for me when you know for a fact that I blocked you!" And then improvise from there. Because if either of you were telling the truth, Peter shouldn't be voting for you and you should find it mighty suspicious that he's voting for you when he can supposedly confirm that you, indeed, blocked him and not Emmett. Remember when I PMed you about doing that gambit with Peter to try to draw him out as the killer? That was diabolically Scummy of me, huh? Remember when Peter finally got around to revealing it? And I was all like "Aha! But I sent Andrew a PM—here it is—and he can confirm that it was all a plan to get Peter to admit he was the killer!" And then you were like, "Oh yeah, that's true. I can confirm that Vincent was just trying to catch Peter as the killer." That was fun. *Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom* -
Pirates Mafia III - Day Eight
Vincent Denis replied to Bob's topic in LEGO Mafia and Role-Play Games
I love you, even though you're grumpy. And I agree about the freaking names. Sorry, Bob. Do you know how many times I had to edit my post before I hit "submit" because I had referred to Daniel as Vincent? That has nothing to do with how Bob named us. And then some people, like Fred—or Peter??, insist on referring to everyone by Mr. [insert last name] and half the time I have to check the players list again to see who the fuck he's talking about. I even referred to Peter as Paul in a PM with someone and they were like "There is no Peter!" Fuck, whatever. Mary? I don't know. Somebody. Just get who I mean by the context. Stop looking for everything to be spelled out for you. Damn lazy kids *Fwoooooooooooooooooooooooooooom* ***"There is no Paul!" -
Pirates Mafia III - Day Eight
Vincent Denis replied to Bob's topic in LEGO Mafia and Role-Play Games
I know the post doesn't have your name in it, so take a look at this, ya' dick: That was before Fred or I switched. You caught up, now? Jesus... Now, go back to sleep. *Fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom* Fucker *Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwomma fwom fwom* Wait, tuba. I'm not done. Furthermore, I didn't "follow" Peter's vote switch. I voted while he was posting and then responded to his Scummy vote right after. That's why my post progresses the way it does with me responding to Peter after the Tuba Dance. You grumpy ass old man. What the fuck is this? Unvote Andrew: Laurent Vote: Andrew Laurent *Fwom fwom fwomm fwom, fwom fwomma fwomma fwom* And everybody's hurts sometimes... Oh my God, *before Peter or I switched. Fucking A. All men with beards look the same to me. Why am I having so much trouble with names this game? Where's Tristan? -
Pirates Mafia III - Day Eight
Vincent Denis replied to Bob's topic in LEGO Mafia and Role-Play Games
*Fwom fwomma fwomma fwom* Okedokee. All the analysis isn't helping me from not freaking out that I haven't analyzed it incorrectly or perhaps from one tunnel. Yesterday was a damn long spreadsheet day, though. I'm kind of spent. Unvote: Peter Lyon Vote Andrew: Laurent I think the idea that we need to take out the killer is preposterous. If we're right and they're both Scum, Andrew would inherit the kill tonight anyway. I mean to add, "DUUUUUUUUH!" but that would be rude. *Fwomma fwom fwomma fwomma. Fwomma fwom fwom fwomma fwom* 'Cause your friends don't dance and if they don't dance *Fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom* Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum...but how can you justify that vote if you say you were unsuccessful. If you want to stick to that story, there's no way you should think Andrew should be lynched. *Fwomma fwom* -
Pirates Mafia III - Day Eight
Vincent Denis replied to Bob's topic in LEGO Mafia and Role-Play Games
*Fwom fwom fwom fwom* Your willingness makes me feel a lot better. I'd also be willing to switch if we can get Fred here in time. Not sure it's possible to get us lined up for some reason. 24 hours seems like a short amount of time to switch the lynch. It's not crystal clear why, but it seems like we're all three in vastly different time zones or sleep schedules. I do think Andrew and Peter are both Scum so it shouldn't matter which one we start with. I just have that 20% fear that Andrew and Emmett are working together and I'll find out in the conclusion and think "I should've followed through on my instincts." But whatever at this point. These days are forever. If we lynch either one of them 24 hours from now, it will still take another 2 days to find out what happened and while I'm finally enjoying this game, the thought of it going on for that much longer is kind of grating. In the mean time, I'd hate to screw up some re-vote and end up not lynching anybody. *Fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom* -
Pirates Mafia III - Day Eight
Vincent Denis replied to Bob's topic in LEGO Mafia and Role-Play Games
*Fwomma fwomma — Well, your dismissive and stubborn attitude sucks, and your reasoning is slightly off too, at least according to Mafia Scum Wiki: Tracker —can be either alignment. We've seen it in games on EB. Tracker helps the Scum learn who has a Power Role and gives them an idea of who to kill or if the Scum have been targeted. If you believe so strongly that Andrew and Peter are Scum, then why not switch to Andrew? What's the difference if we lynch Andrew and block Peter. It's not idiotic, it's covering all of our bases. You say yourself, no one can prove alignment. Would you have, though? Fred admitted to targeting Aiden. You don't need a tracking result on Fred to think he killed Aiden, he admitted to targeting him. So, why would you think this? If you looked at the charts or thought about the Night Action results in whatever method works best for you, you'd see that it's very likely the Scum were trying to kill you. Add to that the fact that Andrew and Peter are both trying to make a thing out of you switching your target to me, and Peter doing it after I already showed the PM where we came up with the plan, makes it look like they wanted you to look Scummy, just by being alive and are much more likely the Scum than you. However, it's easier to see this clearly if you're not going to hold your breath over lynching Peter first. If you don't have a good reason to do so, you're making it harder for us to see things clearly by resisting switching today's lynch to Andrew. I would never unvote Peter to vote for you, so if you're Scum and that's they way you want it to go, I guess you're going to succeed. If your resistance is just a shadow of crappy behavior, fine, I guess. But it's giving me pause and I'd prefer to not have any pause and for this game to end soon...before I create another fucking spreadsheet. *Fwomma fwomma fwom, Fwomma fwom* We've got some work to do now! -
Pirates Mafia III - Day Eight
Vincent Denis replied to Bob's topic in LEGO Mafia and Role-Play Games
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Pirates Mafia III - Day Eight
Vincent Denis replied to Bob's topic in LEGO Mafia and Role-Play Games
I would imagine every member of the Scum team would give you a positive result. Even if they're a blocker, they'd have the ability to kill if they're the last Scum, so that should give you a positive result, right? Psychologist. Now I'm going to wrack my brain trying to figure out if Emmett and Fred could be working together as a Scum team... *Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom* -
Pirates Mafia III - Day Eight
Vincent Denis replied to Bob's topic in LEGO Mafia and Role-Play Games
Trenton targeting Emmett on Night Four would make sense with Peter being blocked, Robin protecting Emmett and Emmett tracking Trenton with the result of "no target." Yeah, I think Andrew lied about blocking Trenton and thought Robin's death would give them the win and the conclusion would be up, thus the swearing at the start of Day Seven. @Fred Dumont Do you think we should switch to Andrew? That would be the safest lynch in case my second possibility listed above is true. @Emmett Ware would you be willing to switch to Andrew so that Fred and I can feel safe that there will be a Day Nine? @Peter Lyon Would you be willing to vote for Andrew? If Emmett is Scum, he's either working alone or with Andrew. In that case, even if Andrew is Town, there will be a Day Nine for us to get Emmett. I don't see a scenario where you would be Scum working alone, so if Andrew flips Town, it's most likely Emmett that is the remaining Scum. *Fwooooooooooom* -
Pirates Mafia III - Day Eight
Vincent Denis replied to Bob's topic in LEGO Mafia and Role-Play Games
*Fwom fwomma fwomma fwom* Right, and Vincent PMed Robin, Aiden, Emmett and you to point out that Trenton hadn't posted the PMs and we were all idiots for not asking for them. Then, when he posted only Remi's side of the conversation, asked for the other side of the conversation and left his vote on him the whole time. For getting screwed over by Trenton, I really set the ball in motion on behalf of getting myself screwed over by it. Boy, do I feel dumb now! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dgAbYCgXBNTcJ5v_GbYz-1YMZqFJw40ZJ7cAhHOFLoc/edit?usp=sharing There's my spreadsheet, night action and voting analysis. Here are my conclusions: 1. Fred cannot be Scum alone if Peter is Town. If Peter is Town, he got the Psychologist result of negative on Night Two, meaning Fred did not have an unused killing ability at that time. We have proof through confirmation that Fred has the ability to block, so if Peter is Town, then the result is true and Fred is unable to be a killer. Period. 2. Emmet could be a killer. For this to be true, it takes a lot of what-ifs, but I'll try to make it concise. a. Emmett is the killer and the last Scum remaining. Emmett started as Scum Tracker and after Joshua was lynched, he was in the Town Block so he could track while Trenton sat around doing nothing. In this scenario, the Scum could move their kill around and Trenton killed Jean while Emmett tracked Daniel, who he saw targeting Robin, which we all have confirmation on. The other possibility is that the Scum see their results at the same time and Emmett has been the killer the whole time, getting the tracking information from Trenton's results. This would mean Andrew did block Trenton and Emmett was able to guess the result that Aiden tracked nobody, based on Aiden repeatedly telling us that he doesn't target anyone. Having the knowledge of who has been blocked, Emmett could frame three non-Scum as killers knowing that three of them were targeted for blocks in one night. If this is the case, he could continue the gambit when Peter was thrown into the mix. Not voting for a couple of days makes it harder to analyze his votes. If Emmett is Scum alone, then we can afford to lynch Peter. If Peter flips Town, then Emmett is Scum. b. Emmett and Andrew are working together. Andrew blocked Peter to prove he was a blocker and get confirmation from Peter that he was blocked. Emmett pretended to be blocked but actually killed Aiden. This gave them the opportunity to confuse us by going after each other and putting some distance between the two of them. If this is the case, we can solve both conundrums by lynching Andrew instead of Peter. If Emmett and Andrew are working together, lynching Peter gives them the win. If we lynch Andrew and he flips Scum and the game continues, we can decipher from there who Andrew was working with by hoping that Fred blocks the right person. 3. Andrew and Peter are Scum Andrew can't be Scum alone. Unless, for some reason, Bob has gone back to giving the final Scum a block and a kill. That's the only way he could be Scum alone. Block Emmett, kill Aiden. For the Scum team to have been Joshua, Trenton, Andrew, Peter–Andrew had to have lied about blocking Trenton. Trenton killed Robin while Fred blocked Peter. Maybe the Scum have a blocker and then some goons to pass the kill around between. There's no standard on the Scum setup and their ability to pass Actions around so we can't be sure. The only explanation besides Emmett killing Robin is that Andrew lied about blocking Trenton, freeing him up to kill. Robin was a protector (only I knew he was a seraph knight) and told Emmett that he found him to be the most important person in the game. With this knowledge, I find it hard to believe that Emmett would kill Robin. But if Andrew and Peter want to get rid of the Tracker, they can't have him protected by a Seraph Knight, which Andrew defined for us, then forgot he did so in a guess of what Robin's protection limitations were. Andrew has also voted in a prime Scum slot every day except for his Scummy vote on Joshua. He can hold up his vote for Joshua as a badge of Towniness all he wants. The vote even pinged Jean. Second is a safe place to vote for a Scum buddy and I'd hardly call that bussing. Especially when the rest of the momentum was swinging towards Daniel. Once Daniel claimed and Jean started pressing for people to vote Joshua, it would've looked super Scummy to unvote Joshua at that point. Lastly, I'll point out that while the Scum could've sat back and not killed on the nights we didn't see a kill, I was bulletproof and protected by Daniel on Night Three, Emmett was protected by Robin on Nights Four and Five. And then Robin was killed on Night Six. Looks to me like somebody might've wanted to kill Emmett. *Fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom* -
Pirates Mafia III - Day Eight
Vincent Denis replied to Bob's topic in LEGO Mafia and Role-Play Games
If I'm the killer why didn't I kill anybody on the night I wasn't blocked? And why would you not be considering Fred? If Fred's the last Scum, he'd inherit the kill after Trenton was lynched. If you blocked Trenton though, who killed Robin? Because Fred said he blocked Peter and Peter says he was blocked. Who'd you block that night? Trenton, right? Emmett tracked Aiden targeting nobody, so if we're supposed to believe you blocked Trenton, then I'm the only person you can pin it on, today. We have the same story. I have to admit that Peter's post has sent my brain reeling and broken my confidence in how I feel about Andrew's Scummy Scummy behavior. Like Hungry Hungry Hippos. Wait, what? Spreadsheet time, mother-fuckers! Are you guys even going to cite this as a reason to trust Fred? Why did I have to pull this out? If Peter is telling the truth, then Fred never had the ability to kill. If Peter is Scum, he's thrown Fred in the mix of his fake results. If he's Scum, he's telling the truth about Fred, who if he's Town, would know that that "result" would be accurate. I can barely follow that sentence myself. I'm doing the spreadsheet but it's taking forever. Lot of shit going on here. :pir-laugh2: *Fwom fwom fwom fwom* Damn. This is going to merge into a wall of text. Poop. Anyway, no. No no no no no no. You can't believe I'm working with Fred if you believe Peter is Town because Peter cleared Fred of being Scum with his Action. So, you have to stick to me and Emmett. *Fwom*