TomSkippy
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Well, the BDP is back, so here's my pirate entry. I'd love to thank all those who have commented on previous posts. The suggestions and support helped make this build possible. A couple of quick notes: Capstan works (the anchor raises and lowers), as does the larger ship's tiller Captain's cabin bed opens for storage. Minifigures are not included in the palate. I included them anyway in the photos for several reasons: They help give scale The build is very minifigure friendly, it feels fun/playable, the figures highlight that The majority ordering already have crews OR know where/how to order them Most importantly, one of the best parts of the build is the price: these are supposed to be cheap ships. Under 1200 parts, only 350ish unique parts (many of the "unique parts" are interior colors, released hinges, and stickered parts). This build could be $99, why make it $125 to get non-theme torsos that look terrible anyway? Everyone is tossing those as soon as it shows up. So here are some pictures, comment and let me know what you think! Voting link is here You can vote and find more photos here
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Thanks! I'll definitely check out the 1x10 curved slope idea! @Cousarmy0001 If they're not selected, they will be up on Rebrickable. Not immediately, I didn't have time to get the whole thing together in real bricks before the deadline... everything looked and tested okay, but you never know.
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@Cousarmy0001 I always appreciate the feedback! I have been skeptical of several things and hearing more opinions helps me a ton! Some responses: 1) I too prefer cloth sails. Brickbuilt are growing on me, but it's not the same. The Scalawag Sloop (album here) had the ability to easily swap cloth/brickbuilt - you'd still have to make your own small square sail. The main tragedy of this build is that there are no actual cloth sails that will work, they'd all have to be custom made. 3) The cannon difference kills me inside. Also, you can't really make similar cuts on the non-gun side since it's built around a technic 2x1 brick... It looks weird. The idea was that the original ships only had cannons for one side (display side) and that would be it. Ultimately, I ditched the cannon altogether, I liked the idea, but it felt more "lego" to go with the second. 5) The deck is dark for my tastes too, but there's nothing that can be done without messing up the lines/colors on the outside. Adding the cannon on top of the foredeck helps get rid of the darkness. Final BDP submission below. The ship will be paired with a smaller fore/aft rigged pirate cutter. I do plan on modifying some things (hopefully she gets enough voter support so the mods go towards that, if not, the mods will just head to rebrickable) so feedback is definitely still appreciated! Build Notes Ended up going with classic blue... just fit elDorado/Barracuda Bay better. Anchor can be raised/lowered via capstan. Stern has a captain style cabin. Has a bed, sea chest, hat, dresser. It's cozy. Tiller still works (I didn't want the hassle of making a working helm, and I've read all the criticism of the original Imperial Flagship for "cool working rudder, but nothing for the captain!!" or the Redbeard Runner/Armada Flagship "Nice destruction play feature, but needs cabin!" Deck is dark, but there's not much deck, the black pulls it together, hides some connections, matches the fortress docks, and really lightens up with bluecoats on it. Couple more photos here
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I'll post it today or tomorrow. I was up until 4am trying to beat the BDP deadline, I've been a walking ever since. I'm too old to be up all night with toys .
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Usually I stay in the Pirate Forum, but I was working on an Armada Flagship build and ended up in Classic Castle. Thought you all might appreciate it.
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I ended up going with the primary Lego colors to better fit with Barracuda Bay. Reddish brown bottom, black and blue stripe, white strake. It's brighter, but I'm happy with it. My only real disappointment in the build is the attachment of the beak, but it's hidden, so it's only kind of eating away at me.
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@GeoBrick I think I've settled on reddish brown bottom, black and dark blue stripe. The Dark Blue brings the rails together. I'll go back to reddish arches on the back... The dark bluish gray arches were an in color option. There isn't a great bow to main mast option. The rope comes off the triangular sail really awkwardly (whether attached to the sail or attached to the bowsprit). It kind of has to follow the sail's angle. It may not be doable.
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@GeoBrick @Capt Wolf Here's a quick render with some of the proposed changes. Notes: I'll swap one of the cannons for a swivel. Ignore the floating hose next to the flag, I wanted to see if the length was right, I'll mount properly when everything's together. Ignore the anchor holder. If this works, I'll run a chain through the front hole and have a capstan to raise and lower the anchor. Questions: Stern opinions? What do you think of the different color scheme? Other ideas? Thanks for the suggestions, I really value the input.
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@Capt Wolf Thanks for the feedback. #2 refers to the rigging. One more question for you, the rear cannon is skinny coming out of the hull, is it an issue?
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Bigger Bluecoat ship for the BDP. I could use everyone's eyes for details on this. It will be paired with a smaller pirate sloop. Questions: 1) Is the hull color scheme good? It might be a little bland for me. Yellow rails on the top seem too pirate-y. What do you guys think? 2) What do you think of the 21L Hose with Connector Grips (vs the smoother 22L Hose)? 3) What are your opinions on the cannons? I'm wondering about placement/distance apart/connection (front/rear)/number AND if the deck is too crowded. 4) Opinion on anchors/placement? 5) Fore deck has to be black. Is it too dark elsewhere? Ideas? 6) Cabin... should I just make a Bluecoat version of the Scalawag Sloop's ? Something different? If so, what do you have in mind? 7) Rudder/TIller. Right now, the smaller ship uses 68888 4 Bar Axle Connector Hub (like the Eldorado ship). Is it weird that the larger of the two uses a tiller? (It does work btw). Should I just go no cabin and try to make a working helm? 8) Are the railings too plain? The smaller ship has a similar vibe to the Eldorado stern rails, should I go with that?
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Thanks for the feedback! I really like the hatch idea. I was kind hoping it wouldn't need a rudder. We'll see about the grappling hook, the BDP doesn't have it available for this build. mast/rigging is underway, that's one of the last steps, since if anything else changes the measurements get all off! Take the swivel gun. If you can't see below, it's mounted on an 11090 bar holder with clip which is mounted into a 1x1 round tile with bar and pin holder.
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Alright. So the Scalawag Sloop has not gotten picked up for the BDP series. I'm working on what's likely to be my last Scalawag-based attempt. I'm going to have two ships: pirate and bluecoat this time. Here's my frame for the smaller of the two. What do you guys think? What does it need? Major questions: Does the ship need a different set of colors? If so, what do you suggest? (Please remember that there are limited options for the large wedge piece color) Also, it will be paired with a Bluecoat ship which is larger. Bluecoat sails are striped (either blue or dark blue, I'll post that one when it's closer to being finished). Does it need a higher stern castle? (If so, what do you propose? What colors?) The deck is about 4 plates lower than the sides right now What details need to be added? Does it need an anchor? More guns? A rudder? Stickers? What kind of rigging? Right now, I'm not sure I can fit rat lines, but there might be a rope going from mast to stern. Anything else? Pics below.
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[MOC] Broadside's Brigantine (Caribbean Clipper)
TomSkippy replied to TomSkippy's topic in Pirate MOCs
It really does! The feedback from the previous iteration really helped. Part is 73230 Technic 1x1 brick with axle hole in Dark Azure. -
[MOC] Broadside's Brigantine (Caribbean Clipper)
TomSkippy replied to TomSkippy's topic in Pirate MOCs
Thanks for the kind words. I totally forgot about the gaps!! I dug through a bunch of 18th century ship galley pictures and several had hanging chickens (feathers and all). The seagull pose was identical, so I went for it. -
Hey everyone! Finally finished this thing. It's been sitting on my desk since summer 2023 The goal was to create a modern Caribbean Clipper. My last attempt was a little too "chibi". The original dimensions weren't long enough and it looked a little weird. The new one is MUCH better. It's smaller than the new Barracuda in every dimension save width (obviously). Even the sides sit lower (which was a frustrating trick - the Barracuda is engineered really well). So here it is, Broadside's Brigantine! I wished I had included more figures before I took the pictures. Afterwards, I didn't have the heart to re-edit. Obligatory "Endurance" shot. The owl is illegal (I found a great matching spray paint). Stern. I'm glad Lego has a reasonable Fleur tile! I'm proud of the bluecoat flag blanket! More pictures can be found here Instructions for sale here Let me know what you think!
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Thanks a ton! @Quotenotto I had originally used a yellow animal tusk part, but it wasn't available in yellow for the BDP. The bananas are so much more pirate-y!
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She's done. It took a bit more time than I thought. I was a bit slow to get back to her after she missed out on BDP approval. But the new design is significantly better. Back angle. Much cleaner. Forgive the missing parts/mismatched colors. Here's the cloth conversion proof. Th square sail is unfortunately a custom (reasoning is below). The good news is that it is the same dimensions as the square sail from the Eldorado cutter. This means with some recoloring and a little crafting, you can easily convert it to a merchant or imperial vessel. Just about everything that bothered me about the build has been fixed except the following: 1) The brickbuilt gaff sail's connection has some stress and is likely illegal. To me, the simplicity of the design and the angle of the gaff are more important than a little stress on a technic 4 axle. 2) To get the sexy front hull curve without gaps on the outside, I needed to use jumper plates. so there's a little half step offset on the wall behind the ladders. There's probably a way of using some technic technique, but whatever, it's behind muskets, ladders, rigging, and similar color parts, nobody cares. 3) The front cannon has a stud that attaches into a round tile with technic hole. Illegal. 4) I wanted to get the part to lot ratio of 3:1. Couldn't get there. The double build and specialized ship parts killed the dream. Overall price is shockingly good. If you cut the dragon plume, muskets, swords, and make the cannon/swivel black you can hit 10 cents per part before shipping. 5) The curved up aft section. I love them, but it's a stupid number of plates and the bottom part (brown wedge and black wedge plate keel) doesn't attach well to the top part of the section (one 2x3 plate). Thankfully the rest of the attachment holds it into place. The build is solid. A kid could play with it. The back might get lose with rough play, but I'm not worried about a kid picking it up. You can pick the build up by the mast and it holds. but I wish it was more satisfying. 6) Some parts of the instructions need callouts instead of individual pages. Moving them, moved other things. I'm so tired of instructions. I left them in. 7) My original goal was to use a renegade runner style sail plan with no custom pieces, only the fore/aft sails from the Barracuda. There may not be a good way given how small they cut the gaff sail. The gaff is either comically low compared to the fore or ridiculously high compared to the stern. To make matters worse, the zip hoses TLC uses for rigging now are almost too long for this ship. Without a square sail, the rigging is way too high. This forced my hand, there needs to be a custom sail. Perhaps the saddest part is that the OG plan was to do a fore/aft for the sloop, then lengthen the hull and add a square sail for a bluecoat version. Now they'll look too similar. There you have it. She's done. More photos here. Instructions can be found on my rebrickable Thanks for your support! Let me know what you think!
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The stickers have not, maybe sometime, they're just so darn small it's ridiculous to make them/cut them! I was actually just thinking of you irl. Unfortunately, you were right about the designer program. The lack of Spanish headgear kills it. BUT! Your comments about the Armada Flagship on the Pirate Sloop wishlist have been bouncing around in my brain for MONTHS. They have given rise to a BDP Castle Galleon I have in the works. Which will be an Armada design in everything but the color and decor. It'll be converted to Don Diego's fleet afterwards. Maybe we could get some custom fabrics made available from an online vendor?
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They worked perfectly! Thanks!!
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Does anyone have 1:1 scans of the new Eldorado sails? I'm working on a sloop and I noticed that in bricklink/photos the new Eldorado sails are a different size than the original Imperial Guards Trading Post. I'm specifically looking for the main sail. The resolution doesn't have to be good, I just need a scale shot of the dimensions that I could trace and make my own.
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Love the classic vibe from this. Honestly, I lol'd at the hammock. We've both gone through the same process: cloth hammock, need something brick built, tried the windscreen (incredible idea until one finds that minifigures don't really fit inside), then went back to cloth. Great job!
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Thanks! It IS janky. Originally I mounted it parallel with the bowsprit (similar to the 3 in 1 Pirate ship), but I hated the angle. The new method is very sturdy, has a pleasant angle, is remarkably simple (two liftarms), but looks absolutely ridiculous from behind. I'd love to come up with a new way, but couldn't figure it out in time. @Yperio_Bricks Lol! The bananas are one of my favorite parts, especially since the classic colors keep them yellow! Thanks!
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Mister Phes! Somehow I missed seeing your response! A couple responses: 1) Cloth Sails: I built the sloop to easily accommodate the fore/aft sails of the Barracuda Bay ship. This allows for easy sourcing (whether bricklink, third party, or printer/scissors) 2) I wrestled with getting Don Diego on there (or maybe Cannonball Cordoba ). The lack of proper headgear/armor made it impossible. He deserves more.
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Welp, here she is! Background: The Scalawag started as an attempt to get effective hull curves on a smaller frame, and I think I've nailed it. Originally, I had 1x6x3 1/3 (part 6060) arches for the front, but those weren't available for the BDP, but using round plates and tiles worked out. Some of my favorite pirate ships have been smaller form: the original Imperial Guard Flagship (6271), the Renegade Runner (6268), the Armada Flagship (6280). This was an attempt to make a ship that fused those with the smaller ship type from the IGTP and Eldorado. I also wanted a ship that could populate some of the harbors we have (Eldorado, Tortuga, and Barracuda Bay). Essentially, I wanted to "add" masts/sails to those ports. So the ship needed to be small enough to dock there without overwhelming the port. Speaking of Barracuda Bay, I wanted a sloop that can interact with the harbor. Not everyone could get 2 copies of it. One extra note: this ship should easily fit the gaff/jib PoBB sail if you want to go all cloth. And those are the easiest sails to leave out of the bay anyway. I tried to keep the overall aesthetic in line with TLC. I didn't want it to look like a crazy moc next to PoBB or Eldorado. Rudder is controllable from a tiller up top. Note the gentle upward slope of the stern. I don't think it's illegal, it was approved after all! The build is solid and stable, through and through. It should be playable, though the cannons can be a little weak. There will be stickers to add patches to the hammock piece. And yes a figure can sleep in the hammock with the stern deck in place! How would a pirate decorate his sleeping quarters? I don't think this one will be approved, but it's worth a shot! Here's a back-up incase the other is too racy! The build is pretty stable. I'm waiting on a bricklink order to confirm that the stays support the mast well enough, but the mast design was based on Lego's 3 in 1 Viking Ship, so the theory is sound. The curved hull is sturdy enough to allow figures to connect to it; it isn't overly fragile. Let me know what you think! And please vote here:
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I'm putting together a small pirate ship @500 parts for the Bricklink Designer Program. And I need your opinions: What does your ultimate small pirate ship have to have? What is one minifigure that you'd love to have included?