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12 minutes ago, danth said:

A 4+ Ninjago set that just got leaked includes 5 of these in trans yellow:

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=57906#T=C

A little narrow for a windscreen but probably usable with some ingenuity.

I was just looking at that. I don't think you could fit a fig under that (not even a babyfig), but maybe you could use it for some sort of covered sensor array or something.

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1 hour ago, Lyichir said:

Ninjago City Markets seems to introduce garage door pieces in trans-neon green, which I'm pretty sure are new? Could be interesting for fans of M-Tron or Blacktron II.

I think it's Trans Bright Green, especially looks like that in the actual product photo with dark background.

And while Trans Neon Green is still in some 2022 production sets (and some 2023 magazine gift), I believe that color is retiring at end of 2023 (will keep an eye on retirement dates for 2022 sets like Friends Roller Disco and Main Street)

 

So far things seem to point toward full replacement of Trans Brown with the new bluish (Pirate Snub Fighter) version of Trans Brown/Black after 2024.

Trans Neon Orange did disappear from regular sets (most notably Monkie Kid and Story of Nian) at end of 2021, but the color is still living on in a bit of an obscure place with the 2022 version of Serious Play Identity and Landscape Kit (which is for sale for €699 at LEGO.com) and Pick a Brick still has a few pieces.

 

Found this list in a comment from Ryan H (who also made the color photos/timeline at brickset : https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/51745770468/in/album-72157649729890049/

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This is the most recent info I have:
111 Transparent Brown: EXIT 31-12-2024
47 Trans-Fluoro Orange: EXIT 31-12-2021
49 Trans-Fluoro Green: EXIT 31-12-2023 [!!!]
339 Trans-Fluoro Green Glitter: EXIT 31-12-2023
353 Vibrant Coral: EXIT 31-12-2026
368 Vibrant Yellow: EXIT 31-12-2025
370 Medium Brown: RESTRICTED
371 Light Tan: RESTRICTED
351 Trans-Bright Green Glittter: EXIT 31-12-2020
341 Trans-Orange Glitter: EXIT 31-12-2020
360 Trans Opal: EXIT 31-12-2027
363 Trans-Brown Opal: EXIT 31-12-2024 [same as 111]
364 Trans-Medium Violet Opal: EXIT 31-12-2027
365 Trans-Violet Opal: EXIT 31-12-2027
362 Trans-Light Blue Opal: EXIT 31-12-2027
367 Trans-Green Opal: EXIT 31-12-2027
366 Trans-Blue Opal: EXIT 31-12-2027

 

 

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On 5/9/2023 at 5:11 PM, Lyichir said:

Ninjago City Markets seems to introduce garage door pieces in trans-neon green, which I'm pretty sure are new? Could be interesting for fans of M-Tron or Blacktron II.

With the rumors of it being discontinued, I hope so, but I have doubts about it.

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16 hours ago, Time77 said:

With the rumors of it being discontinued, I hope so, but I have doubts about it.

From the pics it really does look trans neon green. But I suck at seeing colors.

I would have larger doubts about regular trans yellow because I'm not lucky enough to get that.

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Do they really ever retire colors as such? As said earlier, trans neon orange still appears in a few places here and there, and there are other colors that are in production but where large windscreens have not appeared for decades, like trans green. Sometimes colors like teal have disappeared for many years and were reintroduced (there are slight differences from the original, but they are often smaller than within-color variations of the same color).

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19 minutes ago, CP5670 said:

Do they really ever retire colors as such?

There's a higher chance that TLG will be bought by Playmobil than them bringing back the greys and brown

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Yes there are those cases, but it was back when they used pre-colored pellets for the parts. These days there is more variation within different light bluish gray parts than between old and bluish gray. Trans neon green and neon orange have several different within-color shades that can be seen under UV light.

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EVERY colour, 'cept perhaps black, have rather large variations post the pellet apocalypse, it's a disgrace

But it does mean that TLG could potentially bring back any discontinued "new" colour in the future

 

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5 hours ago, CP5670 said:

Do they really ever retire colors as such? As said earlier, trans neon orange still appears in a few places here and there, and there are other colors that are in production but where large windscreens have not appeared for decades, like trans green. Sometimes colors like teal have disappeared for many years and were reintroduced (there are slight differences from the original, but they are often smaller than within-color variations of the same color).

Make of it what you want, but there's this "list" of color retirement dates I found :  (Source , Ryan H flickr comment, same person who did a lot of the color info on Brickset) ) https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/51745770468/in/album-72157649729890049/

But colors have been extended before, and in the case of Transparent Brown, it's very likely it's mainly a replacement to the new Trans Black seen in set 75346: Pirate Snub Fighter

111 Transparent Brown: EXIT 31-12-2024
47 Trans-Fluoro Orange: EXIT 31-12-2021
49 Trans-Fluoro Green: EXIT 31-12-2023 [!!!]
339 Trans-Fluoro Green Glitter: EXIT 31-12-2023
353 Vibrant Coral: EXIT 31-12-2026
368 Vibrant Yellow: EXIT 31-12-2025
370 Medium Brown: RESTRICTED
371 Light Tan: RESTRICTED
351 Trans-Bright Green Glittter: EXIT 31-12-2020
341 Trans-Orange Glitter: EXIT 31-12-2020
360 Trans Opal: EXIT 31-12-2027
363 Trans-Brown Opal: EXIT 31-12-2024 [same as 111]
364 Trans-Medium Violet Opal: EXIT 31-12-2027
365 Trans-Violet Opal: EXIT 31-12-2027
362 Trans-Light Blue Opal: EXIT 31-12-2027
367 Trans-Green Opal: EXIT 31-12-2027
366 Trans-Blue Opal: EXIT 31-12-2027

 

 

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On 5/9/2023 at 11:43 PM, TeriXeri said:

I think it's Trans Bright Green, especially looks like that in the actual product photo with dark background.

And while Trans Neon Green is still in some 2022 production sets (and some 2023 magazine gift), I believe that color is retiring

correct, according to newelementary it is trans bright green

https://www.newelementary.com/2023/05/lego-parts-review-71799-ninjago-city.html

and yes, I can see trans neon green disappearing slowly too, according to the numbers of pieces in that color getting less and less and being replaced by trans bright green

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On 6/1/2023 at 1:04 PM, danth said:

A picture is worth a thousand words.

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The colors of the left car remind me fondly of the TLM 2 Systar System sets… the curvy trans pink windscreen in particular would be perfect for that faction.

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On 6/1/2023 at 6:04 PM, danth said:

A picture is worth a thousand words.

*picture removed for brevity*

I know this is the Space thread, but that set reminds me of the wacky Racers sets from the early-mid 2000s. All that's missing is the Xalax torso and garish unique faceprint to complete the throwback.

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I'm not familiar with 8 wide speed champions , but I assume those purple wheels on 60396: Modified Race Cars are those dual-moulded wheels ?

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The set for The Marvels has been revealed, and it actually looks good despite the insane price ($90!!). We also get the 18729 canopy recoloured in Trans-Orange, which should be useful. 
I am also curious to see if anyone does a Classic Space reskin of the ship, since it should be fairly easy to swap out some of the grey for blue (and we already have the canopy in Trans-Yellow). 


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Wow, that is the single worst prices I've ever seen for Lego set. And I'm sure most of the inner consoles are krageled on.

It could be a ploy, where the "leaked" price is stupidly high, and then all the fanboys convince themselves they're getting a deal when the (still high) true price is revealed.

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I want to say that this spaceship reminds me of my MOC update of the 6985 Cosmic Fleet Voyager from 1985, and therefore of that grand old set by extension.

I like to evaluate most licensed Lego spaceships and other licensed Lego sets purely on their own merits as Lego sets: if I knew nothing about the license and believed this (insert set here) was a purely in-house design, would it still be new and fresh and interesting and creative, doing something Lego has never done before or doing something better than it's ever been done before? Many licensed sets would make pretty great in-house themes if you told me that's what they were. Most of the Avatar line, for example. Many previous MCU spaceships and swooshyjets.

But not this one. It's just a horrendously overpriced gray box without any play features or any distinctive visual flair whatsoever. It could not possibly be more generic. The old Cosmic Fleet Voyager had so much more visual imagination and play features that I'm embarassed to be reminded of it.

And, of course, I'm the only one who's reminded of the Cosmic Fleet Voyager by the Hoopty. I should really try to stop seeing Classic Space in everything :)

(Spoiler tag contains my Cosmic Fleet Voyager before I removed the stickers from the windscreen and changed the underside from light bluish gray to white.)

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LL 6985 Cosmic Fleet Voyager

 

 

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Besides Classic Space, that Marvel spaceship would also look good in Blacktron I color scheme...

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1 hour ago, icm said:

And, of course, I'm the only one who's reminded of the Cosmic Fleet Voyager by the Hoopty. I should really try to stop seeing Classic Space in everything :)

Your MOC is one of the first things I thought of too! Of course it's much better than the Hoopty.

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Whaaat, the 60396 truck windscreen is classic trans green, not trans-light green as it appears on the box!

They really do make colored windscreens look lighter on the box, I guess so you can see the minifigs. This destroys any arguments against darker transparent windscreens. Bring back trans blue for City Space!

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