emilstorm Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 This is quite an interesting discussion to follow. As I said earlier, I don't think there is anything wrong with not sharing your moc's as such, I have 'secret stuff' myself. Those I keep to myself are for different reasons, some have a weird sentimental value, some I don't think anybody would care about and some are just very uninteresting experiments in developing techniques, thechniques I have used in other moc's that then reach the 'publifucation stage'. I do like sharing moc's that I am happy with and hearing peoples opinion about them. And yes it does give some very primitive satisfaction if you build something cool and people like it:) But honestly, the biggest reason for sharing as I see it is to keep the Lego evolution going. I have been inspired by others and have a naive hope that my moc's may have inspired others. I respect that we are all different, and have different reasons for building, and some people show none of their creations. Just think it through, in my mind ideas that are not shared are 'lost'. They can be ever so great, but if they just sit in a box, they will be going nowhere. Quote
Cumulonimbus Posted May 18, 2014 Author Posted May 18, 2014 It certainly wasn't my intention to create a hype, I'm not good enough to live up to the high expectations a hype can create. As I said before, many good arguments are stated here and in some way I'm reassured that opinions are as diverse as the people. The main thing I will take away from this discussion is to don't take this LEGO thing too seriously. With that in mind and with the danger of going off-topic: to illustrate what my 'style' is (if you can call it that) I include an image of two of my MOCs: As is often the case, I was inspired by an new TLG set (the 42006 Material handler in this case) but I thought it lacked crucial features from the machines I see in real life. So I build a wheeled chassis with outriggers and steering, rebuild the upper structure so these functions were lead though the turntable and there was space for extra function (raising the cabin) and finally I added an angled extension to the boom. Technically it is a WIP, as I need to finish some details and buy some missing parts in the correct colour. During the build I was inspired to derive a wheeled excavator from this, featuring a similar but shorter chassis, controlled blade on the chassis and HOG steering on the upper structure. To bring it back on-topic: These MODs/MOCs are not large scale, very complex, innovative or completely original ideas and yet they are perfect in my mind and I haven't seen anything similar online yet. Quote
emilstorm Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 Those are some awesome machines! It has been years since i built anything in technic (before everything was made of liftarms) and much has happened since. Anyways, i like your style, and from what i can tell, they look very original. And back to the topic: In reply to your last statement, I think pretty much everybody feels like that about some of their creations. It's those little tiny details or mechanisms that sets our creations apart, and keep the wheels of innovation turning. Just show us one more, just a little one, please.. Quote
Lipko Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 (edited) Actually, I'm more worried that my idea gets accidentally "stolen" (idea as concept or theme) so I want to post it even in WIP stage so that it will be the first. This was the case with the Triple contest and my last MOC too (okay, a red car is anything but original, but a small research showed that only a few touring cars and especially with roll-cage have been made. But I was worried if, by chance, other MOCers will find that niche "market"). So to sum it up, I wouldn't share just ideas. But as soon as something is implemented (even just a prototype) I share. Edited May 18, 2014 by Lipko Quote
__________________________ Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 If you have any good new Technic techniques, you would benefit all of us if you shared. IRL, most people share credit when sharing builds. Quote
Bzroom Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 Lipko, your stance completely defies my logic. You blew my my mind, like your Audi. Aren't you worried that someone would see your half built model and THEN realize then niche market, stay up all night, and beat you to the finished model while you were sleeping? How better to hide the niche market than to hide the WIP? Another question. Honestly folks, have you ever seen someone's WIP and thought: "that's awesome i'm going to build one." and then beat them to a finished model? Quote
Paul B Technic Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 Another question. Honestly folks, have you ever seen someone's WIP and thought: "that's awesome i'm going to build one." and then beat them to a finished model? No I have not but then again I build what I like, not what is popular to other people. If somebody builds something the same as yours, does that really matter? Quote
jorgeopesi Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 (edited) I always share the beginnings and development of my MOCs to help more people do the same, I would have liked to meet more people like me when I knew less than now. if someone wants to improve my F40 this is the opportunity . http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=88371&st=0 Edited May 19, 2014 by jorgeopesi Quote
Bricktrain Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 It certainly wasn't my intention to create a hype, I'm not good enough to live up to the high expectations a hype can create. As I said before, many good arguments are stated here and in some way I'm reassured that opinions are as diverse as the people. The main thing I will take away from this discussion is to don't take this LEGO thing too seriously. With that in mind and with the danger of going off-topic: to illustrate what my 'style' is (if you can call it that) I include an image of two of my MOCs: As is often the case, I was inspired by an new TLG set (the 42006 Material handler in this case) but I thought it lacked crucial features from the machines I see in real life. So I build a wheeled chassis with outriggers and steering, rebuild the upper structure so these functions were lead though the turntable and there was space for extra function (raising the cabin) and finally I added an angled extension to the boom. Technically it is a WIP, as I need to finish some details and buy some missing parts in the correct colour. During the build I was inspired to derive a wheeled excavator from this, featuring a similar but shorter chassis, controlled blade on the chassis and HOG steering on the upper structure. To bring it back on-topic: These MODs/MOCs are not large scale, very complex, innovative or completely original ideas and yet they are perfect in my mind and I haven't seen anything similar online yet. nice mods, especially liking your handler Quote
Bzroom Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 If somebody builds something the same as yours, does that really matter? It might if you're working on a Cuusoo project. Quote
Lipko Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 (edited) Lipko, your stance completely defies my logic. You blew my my mind, like your Audi. Aren't you worried that someone would see your half built model and THEN realize then niche market, stay up all night, and beat you to the finished model while you were sleeping? How better to hide the niche market than to hide the WIP? Yes, but luckily all DTM cars have essentially the same chassis with the same sizes, so I would have built some other body and try to improve on the design of the beater (and I did redesign all the functions of the prototype). No wonder your logic is defied by my stance, I don't overdo thinking... This original idea thing reminds me of the TSATS contest, where I accidentally "stole" an idea. MY entry was totally different, but there were some cursing around. If I had post a WIP, maybe I could have save myself from the trouble. Okay, this thinking can lead to securing ideas or concepts maybe... Anyhow, this whole copyright topic is too complex to be entirely regulated, so common sense will always play a bigger role in my opinion. Edited May 19, 2014 by Lipko Quote
Zerobricks Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 Share them, if there is positivie critique, accept it and learn on it, if there's negative critique there is always /report(block/delete or simple middle finger Quote
__________________________ Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 Don't share a thing. Live secretly, preferably in the woods. Stay low, stay hidden, stay vigilant, build your own fort ;) You do have your funny points, Sariel (: Quote
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