DC Comics Cinematic Universe

[Gryphon Ink]

But Zach Snyder always gives great trailers. It's the execution of his movies that are mixed at best. I mean go back and look at how amazing the trailers for SuckerPunch were. Then try and watch the actual movie without feeling dirty or wanting to kill yourself. He is the best in the business at making teaser trailers. His movies however can go either way. Good stuff like 300 and Watchmen, and really really bad like Suckerpunch.

That's because Snyder has nothing whatsoever to do with the trailers. Those are made by completely different people in shops that do nothing but make trailers. This is why the trailer for Sucker Punch was a much better movie than the actual movie. It was able to use Snyder's not insignificant visual artistry and ignore his pathetic attempt at writing a story.

[AncientDayz]

I love Superman, but I just couldn't fall in love with this movie. It was good, but I don't like some of the changes they made. As many have said, some of the characters are really undeveloped. I may be in the minority, but I also thought the action sequences started getting tiring.

[Sam892]

Does it really matter if this movies good? To me the more important that it makes a lot of cash. I honestly don't mind if its not as good it seems. I know I will still enjoy a lot the action scenes. To me it's more important that this film proves to WB that justice league should be made.

I honestly can't say that Captain America was a great film but it paved the way for Avengers, much like Iron man 2 did. I'm weird anyway and can enjoy a movie even if its crap. The Star Wars Prequels, Pirates of the Caribbean anything. I know there terrible but I can watch them and enjoy them easily.

I haven't seen it yet but I know it must instantly be better than Superman 3,4 and Returns.

[Zilcho]

I really liked it. I enjoyed the childhood flashbacks and perhaps they could have traded some action for more childhood.

[BrickG]

In terms of recent Super Hero movies I think it's about in the middle. Better than Thor. Character development complaints? Thor did it worse :P. The love interest literally fell in love with him because she saw him shirtless once... Loki was probably done the best there.

Captain America? It had a WHOLE team of non-developed (and oddly diverse for the time period) characters. Nobody got development besides Cap.

I think it's much better than those two still decent movies.

It's hard to place it. It's only got like a 53% on RottenTomatoes but honestly I think that's not high enough. Other IMO clearly worse movies have much higher :P.

I'd think it's better than Thor, Captain America and Iron Man 2.

Avengers, Iron Man 1 and the Batman Triology? Nah. (well personally I'd place it over Iron Man 1 but I don't think I'm the norm there, I just don't care for Iron Man)

Edited June 16, 2013 by BrickG

[Faefrost]

I love Superman, but I just couldn't fall in love with this movie. It was good, but I don't like some of the changes they made. As many have said, some of the characters are really undeveloped. I may be in the minority, but I also thought the action sequences started getting tiring.

You are not alone. I must be getting old, because I am really starting to miss the days when directors were limited by practical effects and tight budgets. It forced them to craft very tight, very well thought out minimalist scenes. Not one second more than necessary because every second was so expensive. Not simply cut n pasting 2 hours of explosions and buildings falling down and shaky cam. I just watched the latest Star Trek and same thing. The cgi action set pieces just went on and on and on and you quickly get numb to it. The old constraints forced them to make better movies, and often resulted in accidental brilliance. The new unrestrained CGI just lets them slap any random thought up there with little reason to self edit beyond ego. The end result is much sloppier storytelling. The harsher or more powerful the third party editor, the better the story. And old school practical effects and studio budgets were certainly harsh editors.

[The Legonater]

So I just saw this movie yesterday. All in all, it was pretty decent. I've never been a huge Superman fan because of his nigh-invulnerability, but this movie actually managed to make his seem vulnerable, which gains a lot of respect from me.

Besides the awkward pacing, my only real issue was how they handled Jonathon Kent's death. I really don't like the heart attack - which Supes was powerless to save, and thus realized his limits in a way - was changed to a twister - which he could easily have saved Kent from if Kent wasn't so stuck-up about no one seeing him, which became moot anyways.

[strangely]

Well I saw it again (This time without 3D) and I liked it a lot better. Granted there are still undeveloped characters and plot holes and everything still looked too gray, but I can live with those things. my initial reactions were probably a 6/10. On a second view though I can happily say 8/10. I think this is just one of those movies that takes time to sink in (A lot does happen after all).

[SteampunkDoc]

Gotta say, while I do have some of the same issues as others, (Mr. Kent's death, pacing issues, flashy visuals over plot/character development, Ect) it still seemed like a pretty good film.

I prefer the Marvel approach of being less dark/gritty, and containing more humor/fun, but MoS ranks pretty high on my "Darker Superhero films" list.

[commodore_legolas]

Wow. What an amzing movie. I LOVED it!

Nothing to spoilerly here, just a few things related to the plot.

I thought the issue of how they handled daddy Kent's death could have worked, if only Clark ran to save him, getting there to late.

Using Zod as the main villan was odd, since most people don't know about him, but I guess Scarecrow was the first villan in the TDK trilogy, so it works. Maybe though, if they are going by that system, I'm guessing that Lex will be the next bad guy. Braniac and Metallo would be cool too. Is all three to much to hope for?

[BrickG]

I think you're underestimating how many people know about Zod. It's not as many as Lex of course but the other Superman movie really pushed him forward as one of the most well known Superman villains.

[Vindicare]

I loved it! It was intense, I felt like I needed a nap after watching it. Now, it might be because I never followed Superman in comics before(until now, started Superman Unchained), but I thought Clark was developed well. The flashbacks to his childhood and figuring stuff out was good.

I don't agree with who said that the bad guys were just evil, they had a plan/desire. Nobody has mentioned a secret scene, so I'm assuming there wasn't one? I remember Green Lantern having one.

[SteampunkDoc]

There wasn't an after-credits scene.

The directors didn't want it too feel like they were setting up a sequel, and just wanted to keep viewers thinking about this, as opposed to a future installment.

But then they just announced the fast-tracking of MoS 2, so whatever.

[commodore_legolas]

I think you're underestimating how many people know about Zod. It's not as many as Lex of course but the other Superman movie really pushed him forward as one of the most well known Superman villains.

Ah, was he the villan in those newer films? I didn't know that, I haven't watched them or read to much about them. Thanks for the info!

[Faefrost]

Ah, was he the villan in those newer films? I didn't know that, I haven't watched them or read to much about them. Thanks for the info!

He was the main villain of the second Christopher Reeve Superman movie. Often felt to be one of the best sequels ever made. He actually entered the common pop culture vernacular with the phrase "Kneel Before Zod!". I think they messed up using Zod for the first movie, and sort of how they used him. He was too dark a villain for the first. He would have worked much better for a second movie (as he did last time). Plus just by the nature of some of the odd plot points surrounding him and his alien invasion, it makes it much more dificult for them to do a real Braniac movie as a followup. It would just look too much the same.

[Sam892]

Just saw the movie tonight, I loved it. By far the best Superman movie. It was a great way of Starting up the DCCU, a couple of references here and there. Overall I only thing that bothered me were flashbacks within flashbacks.

[medspa]

Still dont see the movie. but waiting for it eagerly. thanks for the trailer. it was awesome.

[Artifex]

Man of Steel is yet to open in Brazil, but from comments around the web, I'm very worried about one thing near the end. I'd really like for someone who watched the movie to PM me saying if it actually happens or not. No, I don't mind the spoiler. But for those who do, here goes the spoiler banner before I ask my question.

Does Supermarn really break someone's neck near the end of the movie?

Edited June 25, 2013 by Artifex

[Leo604]

You could just a spoiler tag to hide your information.

Yes, he does.

[SteampunkDoc]

That's not exactly the most effective way of putting up spoiler tags, but to answer your question:

Yes, and quite violently too.

It was a great moment, really separated this Superman from Reeve's perfect 'boy-scout' version.

And before you get all up in arms, Superman does and has killed in the comics.

Ah, ninja'd by Leo.

Edited June 25, 2013 by SteampunkDoc

[Artifex]

You could just a spoiler tag to hide your information.

Yes, he does.

That's not exactly the most effective way of putting up spoiler tags, but to answer your question:

Yes, and quite violently too.

It was a great moment, really separated this Superman from Reeve's perfect 'boy-scout' version.

And before you get all up in arms, Superman does and has killed in the comics.

Ah, ninja'd by Leo.

Now that's a feature I've never ever used in any forum before -- I didn't even remember it was there. But thanks for the heads up!

And thanks for the answer too.

EDUT: I just edited my previous post.

Edited June 25, 2013 by Artifex

[Super Goblin]

For some reason I can't use spoiler tags on my phone. Don't read below if you haven't seen the movie yet

Superman in Superman II depowers Zod, crushes his hand then pushes over ledge to his death. So nothing really new with Superman killing. He has done it in the comics and even labotamized Doomsday in the JLU cartoon.

[BrickG]

and even labotamized Doomsday in the JLU cartoon.

Doomsday in the JLU cartoon was wrong on so many levels. 1) He talked... he was smart... 2) Superman COULDN'T lobotomized him.

How you screw up essentially a super strong dumb idiot so bad I don't know.

[nayrsllim]

I liked it a lot more than Superman Returns. Although i wasnt to fond of the flashbacks. Once they stopped, the movie got better.

[Zachattacx]

Even though the flashbacks got annoying IMO I thought it brought more story to the movie.

Yeah it did get better once they stopped.